Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ks_sachin » 05 Feb 2019 08:35

Shuklaji was an Armoured Officer - just shows

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Postby JTull » 06 Feb 2019 16:34

Army detains three RR men over killing of soldier Aurangzeb

[url]Three personnel of the 44 Rashtriya Rifles have been detained by the Army and are being questioned for their alleged involvement in the abduction and killing of fellow soldier Aurangzeb by militants in June last year. Sources said it is suspected that the three RR soldiers shared information about Rifleman Aurangzeb who was abducted after he set out from the camp for his home in Poonch.

His killing led to outrage across the country. He was conferred the Shaurya Chakra posthumously on Independence Day last year. Two days ago, his father joined the BJP in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi at a rally in Vijaypur, Jammu. On Monday, 27 year-old Tawseef Ahmad, brother of Abid Wani, one of the three soldiers detained, was taken to hospital with multiple bruises after being assaulted, allegedly by RR personnel.

Reached for comment, Defence spokesman Colonel Rajesh Kalia told The Indian Express that “details are being ascertained” about the incident. Ahmad was first taken to the Pulwama district hospital from where he was referred to Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital in Srinagar. Doctors said his condition was stable.

PDP leader and former Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti, who visited the Srinagar hospital Tuesday to inquire about Ahmad’s condition, said: “I will talk to the Corps Commander regarding the matter. I am sure Governor Sahib will take note of this matter… his brother is also missing, his whereabouts are not known.”

Sources said detained RR personnel Abid Wani, Tajamul Ahmad and Adil Wani are facing an inquiry for allegedly sharing information about Aurangzeb. “Two are from Pulwama and one is from Kulgam (police districts). Their role came up during the investigation into the killing of Aurangzeb,” sources said.

Ahmad’s family members said he was called to the RR camp in Pulwama where was beaten. “When he came out of the camp, he was spotted by a local resident and taken to hospital,” one of his cousins said. Dr Abdul Rashid Parra, medical superintendent of Pulwama district hospital, said: “We received a patient on Monday evening. He reported to the hospital with an alleged history of beating. The patient had multiple bruises. His whole body was bruised. He was then referred to a Srinagar hospital for further treatment.”

Dr Saleem Tak, medical superintendent of SMHS Hospital, said: “The patient’s condition is stable and he is currently under observation at the hospital. The patient has soft tissue injuries.”[/url]

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Postby Rakesh » 06 Feb 2019 22:12

Two top UPA leaders planted the 2012 Indian Army ‘coup’ story, claim media reports
https://www.opindia.com/2019/02/two-top ... a-reports/

“No coup attempt was undertaken. The incidents and military movements that were termed as a part of a coup attempt were normal military exercises," the report in The Sunday Guardian quotes an IB officer as saying.

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Postby sudeepj » 06 Feb 2019 22:19

Aditya_V wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:^^^ question for ballistics experts - IIRC at akshardham one of the problems that NSG had was that the pigs were outranging them using AK47s compared to the H&K MPGs; appreciate that its not a 5.56mm but the impression from reports at the time was that the AK47 was accurate to much longer ranges...?

That is pistol 9mm round , same problem was there for NSG in 26/11 and Pathankot. It's meant for 25m range engagements.


The subsonic 9mm round is good for hostage rescue, which was originally the NSGs purpose. It can be silenced effectively, has lower chances of collateral damage after it hits the person aimed at.. Whats not to like?

But taking out determined jihadis in Akshardham like situation which has long lines of sight is a different ballgame.

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Postby suryag » 10 Feb 2019 10:10

Each time I read about TSD and the treatment meted out to VKS and TSD subsequently my blood boils
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... igence-ops

Aiyaary was a great movie that showed this story

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Postby sum » 10 Feb 2019 18:52

The only saving grace is NaMo came to power within a short while of this sheer treachery and so i have no doubt that baap of TSD is doing its duty currently which we might hear in years to come

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Postby ks_sachin » 12 Feb 2019 15:13

All

I am looking for the motto of 3 GR.
I know war cry is Kayar Hunu Bhanda Marnu Ramro
"Better to die than live like a coward"

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Postby shaun » 16 Feb 2019 19:19

suryag wrote:Each time I read about TSD and the treatment meted out to VKS and TSD subsequently my blood boils
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... igence-ops

Aiyaary was a great movie that showed this story

Check this ..

https://www.theweek.in/theweek/specials/mr-bond-is-it-or-mr-bean-counter-tsd-vk-singh.html

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Postby Singha » 19 Feb 2019 21:36

AGDPI has released a posthumous tribute to Havildar Hangpan Dada, of assam regiment, home dist Tirap, Arunachal Pradesh.
died fighting 4 terrorists attempting to cross a pass


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Postby ramana » 19 Feb 2019 23:10

jaysimha wrote:https://www.indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/Documents/ADGPISingleSheetCalendar2019.pdf
Indian army calendar


28 gazetted holidays and 22 optional holidays.

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Postby jaysimha » 20 Feb 2019 11:16

ramana wrote:
jaysimha wrote:https://www.indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/Documents/ADGPISingleSheetCalendar2019.pdf
Indian army calendar


28 gazetted holidays and 22 optional holidays.


Along with them, all army important days are marked,, Like
4th Jan Army Day
15th FEB Corps of signals day
1st Nov Army Aviation day
itd. itd...

would appreciate if others are also identified and posted.
it would be easy to wish the corresponding corps people on that day.

Thanks in Advance..


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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Ashokk » 20 Feb 2019 19:41

1 Army jawan dead, five missing in avalanche in Himachal's Kinnaur
SHIMLA: Six jawans of the Army's J&K Rifles unit were feared dead in an avalanche on the Sino-India border in Himachal Pradesh's Kinnaur district on Wednesday, officials said.

The body of one jawan had been recovered, whereas five bodies were yet to be traced, Kinnaur deputy commissioner Gopal Chand said.

The avalanche occurred at around 11am near Shipkala on the Sino-India border, he added.

Himachal Pradesh: Operation underway to rescue 5 jawans trapped in snow after an avalanche hit them in Namgya regio… https://t.co/hiRDziGHF8
— ANI (@ANI) 1550669603000

Several jawans of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) were also trapped in the avalanche. However, they had been rescued, Chand said.

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Postby Deans » 22 Feb 2019 12:50

I have a question on the Rashtriya rifles.
Are the men deputed to the RR, culled from the authorised strength of the regular army formations, or is it an additional resource available to the army, in addition to its regular strength. Thus if 5 RR is affiliated to the Jat regiment and half its strength comes from that regiment, would its Jat reiment companies be pulled out from a regular infantry batallion ? (in which case our infantry batallions and therefore divisions would be understength to the extent that it sent men for a RR stint. If that is the case, in a conventional war, would RR units move back to their parent formation ?

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Postby arshyam » 22 Feb 2019 14:36

Have there been any further updates on the avalanche-trapped soldiers? Hoping they are safe...

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Postby ks_sachin » 22 Feb 2019 15:27

Deans wrote:I have a question on the Rashtriya rifles.
Are the men deputed to the RR, culled from the authorised strength of the regular army formations, or is it an additional resource available to the army, in addition to its regular strength. Thus if 5 RR is affiliated to the Jat regiment and half its strength comes from that regiment, would its Jat reiment companies be pulled out from a regular infantry batallion ? (in which case our infantry batallions and therefore divisions would be understength to the extent that it sent men for a RR stint. If that is the case, in a conventional war, would RR units move back to their parent formation ?

Finally a question about the infantry!
Yes they are deputed - men and officers.
Jats like other inf rests have 2 RR bns. 5 and 34 I think.
RRs are maintained at full strength while inf bns will have reduced manpower as their men and offers are deputed.
Whole companies are not pulled out from the bn.
5 RR will have men from all Jat battalions.
Now all the 600 men of an RR is not Jat but will also have some on deputation from other arms like ASC etc.
In a full scale war I am not sure but I presume that inf bn at the front could have their strength returned back to normal. It all depends on what is being planned and the threat perception. For example the army may decide the RR grid system has to be maintained by the RR so that while we attack or defend there is little scope for militants to play havoc with our rear esp in the valley.
However that could be done by the BSF flooding in in which case if we reduce RR strength to build back inf bn strength then men will be posted back to their units.
The officers however may not necessarily go back to their parent unit.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby nam » 22 Feb 2019 15:33

I read in Lt Gen. Husian article that RR battalions are bigger than regular battalion. 1000 men.

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Postby arshyam » 22 Feb 2019 18:17

Two days later, still trapped, not looking good. Bad weather also keeps hampering rescue efforts.

Kinnaur Avalanche: Rescue operations resume, 5 Army personnel still trapped under snow - OneIndia

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Over 200 persons of Army, ITBP, local police and District Disaster Management are deployed in the rescue operation, said reports.

Heavy snow, rain and sliding of glaciers on Thursday hampered the operation to search for five Army jawans trapped in the snow avalanche near Shipki La on Sino-India border in Himachal Pradesh's Kinnaur district, officials said. Six jawans of the Army's 7 JAK Rifles -- four from Himachal Pradesh, one each from Uttarakhand and Jammu and Kashmir -- are feared dead in the avalanche that occurred near Shipki La border outpost around 11 AM on Wednesday.

General Reserve Engineer Force (GREF) and its machines could not reach the spot to carry out intensive search operation due to accumulation of several feet snow on the road, Kinnaur Superintendent of Police (SP) Sakshi Verma had said on Thursday.

The rescue teams were at standby as the area was lashed by incessant snow blizzards and snowfall, she had said. The Army jawans deployed at the Shipki La border post kept on trying to reach the spot by making efforts to clear the snow to carry out search operation, she added.

The search and rescue operation for the missing Army jawans was adversely affected as Pooh witnessed 4 to 5 inches snowfall whereas more snowfall occurred at Shipki La and its adjoining areas on Wednesday night, Negi said, adding it has been raining heavily at the spot since morning. The body of one of the Army jawans was recovered on Wednesday itself, but there was no trace of five others.

The deceased jawan was identified as Rakesh Kumar, 41, a resident of Ghumarpur village in Bilaspur district of Himachal Pradesh. Five Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) jawans were also injured in the avalanche. They have been identified as Belangeen, Rajneesh Kumar, Mohammad Ishan, Rambaran, Tele Tek Chand, Army sources said. When the avalanche descended rapidly down from the mountainside near Shipki La, 16 Army and ITBP jawans had gone towards the border post from Namagya in order to repair a damaged water supply line. While eight ITBP jawans were on the hill overseeing the water supply line, the Army jawans were standing down the hill, the sources said, as per a PTI report.

Six Army jawans were buried alive. One of them was rescued, but he succumbed to injuries subsequently. The Army has not issued any official statement so far regarding this unfortunate incident.

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Postby ks_sachin » 22 Feb 2019 18:22

nam wrote:I read in Lt Gen. Husian article that RR battalions are bigger than regular battalion. 1000 men.

I
Stand corrected.

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Postby manjgu » 22 Feb 2019 21:34

of what I have heard is RR men dont move back to their parent unit...they have their own tasking during war time ...

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Rupak » 22 Feb 2019 21:58

nam wrote:I read in Lt Gen. Husian article that RR battalions are bigger than regular battalion. 1000 men.


Regular infantry battalions have 4 rifle companies, in case of the RR they have 6 rifle companies.

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Postby ks_sachin » 23 Feb 2019 09:02

manjgu wrote:of what I have heard is RR men dont move back to their parent unit...they have their own tasking during war time ...

Makes sense and not diff to what I surmised.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Bishwa » 23 Feb 2019 09:19

Deans wrote:I have a question on the Rashtriya rifles.
Are the men deputed to the RR, culled from the authorised strength of the regular army formations, or is it an additional resource available to the army, in addition to its regular strength. Thus if 5 RR is affiliated to the Jat regiment and half its strength comes from that regiment, would its Jat reiment companies be pulled out from a regular infantry batallion ? (in which case our infantry batallions and therefore divisions would be understength to the extent that it sent men for a RR stint. If that is the case, in a conventional war, would RR units move back to their parent formation ?


http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ARMY/unit ... ifles.html

This article should answer many of your questions

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ks_sachin » 23 Feb 2019 09:25

Rupak wrote:
nam wrote:I read in Lt Gen. Husian article that RR battalions are bigger than regular battalion. 1000 men.


Regular infantry battalions have 4 rifle companies, in case of the RR they have 6 rifle companies.

Rural Saar,
What are the additional rifle companies named?

Echo And Foxtrot?

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Deans » 23 Feb 2019 11:07

Rupak wrote:
nam wrote:I read in Lt Gen. Husian article that RR battalions are bigger than regular battalion. 1000 men.


Regular infantry battalions have 4 rifle companies, in case of the RR they have 6 rifle companies.


Yes, RR battalions have 6 companies, of which I believe 3 would be from the affiliated infantry regiment. If I'm not mistaken, a regular infantry
battalion has 5 companies including a heavy weapons company.

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Postby Singha » 23 Feb 2019 12:16

there is a series of episodes on saragarhi from a tv series


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National War Memorial ready.

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Postby vishal » 02 Mar 2019 20:30

Firing at Army camp in Kashmir's Shopian

Gunshots were heard at an Army camp in Jammu and Kashmir's Shopian on Saturday evening. Police were alerted immediately, who retaliated and fired back.

The area in Nagbal village's Imamsahib tehsil has been cordoned off.

According to ANI, sentry at Dachoo camp of 44 Rashtriya Rifles noticed suspicious movement and fired shots in the air.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby wig » 06 Mar 2019 10:35

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... 38639.html

MoD okays Army HQ recast -Operation, intel units to merge | 20% officers to move out

from the above article
In the first major restructuring of the Army headquarters in the national capital, the Ministry of Defence is learnt to have reduced some 20 per cent of the officer posts, merged two weapons and systems procurement agencies and created a new post of Deputy Chief who will coordinate with military intelligence, operations and logistics wings.

Sources say Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has taken the decision in line with the government’s resolve to make the 1.3-million strong Army leaner and fit for a 21st century war. A formal notification is expected anytime soon.

The new Deputy Chief will oversee strategy and operations, intelligence collation, conduct of operations and the movement of logistics. At present, the DG (Military Operations) and the DG (Military Intelligence) report to the Army Chief or Vice-Chief.
Also, the restructuring will merge the Master General Ordnance (MGO), who is currently under the Vice-Chief, and the DG (Weapons and Equipment) under a single vertical with the Deputy Chief (Planning and Strategy), which will be renamed Capability Development.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby atreya » 07 Mar 2019 16:22

From the above article:

The officers who will be weaned off the headquarters will be sent to formations.
At present, there are an estimated 950 to 1,000 officers posted at the headquarters.


Noob query - aren't these officers trained and experienced in their respective Arm/Service (AOC/Intelligence Corps)? When they are posted in a formation, I assume it would be an infantry formation, so do they undergo training again?

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ks_sachin » 07 Mar 2019 16:33

atreya wrote:From the above article:

The officers who will be weaned off the headquarters will be sent to formations.
At present, there are an estimated 950 to 1,000 officers posted at the headquarters.


Noob query - aren't these officers trained and experienced in their respective Arm/Service (AOC/Intelligence Corps)? When they are posted in a formation, I assume it would be an infantry formation, so do they undergo training again?

No.
This admin posting happens from time to time.
For example a Major May get posted as a DQ of a Brigade.
Depending on rank these offers will either go back to parent unit or regt or arm. These offer on reputation can be from anywhere - Inf, arms, AOC, ADA, Arty, Inf Corps, AEC etc.
Retraining would depend on there the offs was going. New Delhi to Siachen yes or the Valley yes but New Delhi to 54 Div possibly but New Delhi to Bangalore maybe not.

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Postby MeshaVishwas » 07 Mar 2019 22:46

Excellent interview of Lt. gen. Anbu by Gokhale Saar.
https://youtu.be/rlIu6lTHugw
Edit:@Adminullahs, please make this video appear in page viewable.
Also let me know how I can do the same as the YouTube tags do not seem to work.
Thanks.

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Postby Ashokk » 08 Mar 2019 01:10

MeshaVishwas wrote:Edit:@Adminullahs, please make this video appear in page viewable.
Also let me know how I can do the same as the YouTube tags do not seem to work.
Thanks.

Code: Select all

[youtube]rlIu6lTHugw[/youtube]



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Postby Rakesh » 09 Mar 2019 02:08

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/11 ... 3426766848 ---> BREAKING: Young Army (JAK LI) soldier on leave Rifleman Mohammad Yaseen Bhat has been abducted from his home in Qazipora, Budgam by suspected terrorists. He was on leave till the end of this month. Search on. Pray this doesn’t end like Lt Ummer Fayyaz.

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Postby Singha » 09 Mar 2019 08:24

ANI

Verified account

@ANI
24m24 minutes ago
More
Defence Ministry: Media reports of the abduction of a serving Army soldier(Mohammad Yaseen) on leave from Qazipora, Chadoora, Budgam(J&K) are incorrect. Individual is safe. Speculations may please be avoided.

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 09 Mar 2019 12:54

Aditi Patwardhan @AditiIndiaFirst
39m39 minutes ago

I’m informing you, with a heavy heart, that Maj Gen SK Sinha @SKSk785 passed away on 7th March, 2019. May his soul rest in peace. He was a wonderful person, and an outstanding, upright soldier. Jai Hind.

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RIP Sir


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