Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ArjunPandit » 19 Oct 2019 00:04

nam wrote:Waiting for the best doesn’t work, we will take what you produce, Vice Chief of Army assures industry
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/waiting-for-the-best-doesnt-work-we-will-take-what-you-produce-vice-chief-of-army-assures-industry/articleshow/71651341.cms

Referring to a long standing dilemma for the domestic defence development ecosystem, Lt Gen MM Naravane said that `best’ cannot be the enemy of the `good’ and unless systems are inducted and used in the field, they cannot be improved and developed to global standards.


someone please pass me on a tissue..or should i wait for some orders of Arjun

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ArjunPandit » 19 Oct 2019 00:06

nachiket wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Lt Gen MM Naravane is in running to be the next chief. If he does, it will be awesome because all the three service chiefs - Admiral Singh, Air Chief Marshal Bhaduria and Lt Gen Naravane - are all publicly pushing for local products. The winds are certainly moving in the right direction!

He is next in line by seniority. So barring Govt. intervention, he should become the next COAS on Jan 1 2020.

i think the forces are, pardon my language, "toeing the line" of GoI. I always thought the IA will be roughest and toughest nut to crack, because so much as it stake for all parties involved, including dalals. I can only imagine what would have happened had Vajapayee govt continued instead of MaunMeek Singh

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby srai » 19 Oct 2019 07:02

sudeepj wrote:
Thakur_B wrote:

^^ This is what the forum has been demanding for eons. A wind of change may be on the horizon.


The image of the 'catapult' type platform looks interesting in that the 'roof' looks like its armored and not just a piece of Canvas. A direct hit will still take it out, but it looks like this roof will offer some protection from Shrapnel. Better than nothing.

IMO, the turret should be enclosed, or at least make the canopy extend further on each side and droop more for better shrapnel protection.

Next upgrade would be to replace the 130mm gun with a 155mm Dhanush/ATAGS.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Prasad » 21 Oct 2019 12:44

Why the army's changed mindset on indigenous technology is a relief
The project combined the expertise of Bengaluru's IT industry with academia, defence scientists along with end-users. Bengaluru-based Encore software collaborated with the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) and the DRDO. The Indian Army's Directorate General of Information Systems worked as co-developers and end-users on the project. "It was a unique partnership and it would have been a fantastic base for us to build on for the army's future projects," says Colonel D.P.K. Pillay (retired) who coordinated Project Beta at Army HQ, New Delhi.

By 2005, the team had produced an integrated battlefield computer that would allow a soldier to pinpoint his exact location on a Geographical Information System (GIS) powered map, allow friendly troops to see his position on their screens and allow communication between them.

The system was successfully demonstrated to President A.P.J Abdul Kalam. The developers drew up plans for a series of devices using the same core and operating systems which could scale up the Sathi's capabilities and be used by decision-makers up the command chain.

In 2008, a proposal for a second batch of 1,300 Beta-2 devices came up before the Army Technology Board for funding approval. The project team wanted to test it across a wider area. That's when the army pulled the plug on the project. The decision took the project team by surprise. It was almost inexplicable, says one officer who worked on the project. "We don't need to reinvent the wheel," a three-star officer who headed the army's Information Systems (IS), reportedly told the project team when they protested. Project Beta was closed down.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby srai » 03 Nov 2019 15:41

I had this discussion a while ago with few members on the topic of high altitude acclimatization using altitude chambers. DRDO has also developed Normobaric Hypoxia Chamber for the Indian Army. These are common nowadays for mountain climbers who use it as part of their preparation training before expeditions. Allows acclimatization (3000m-5000m) without physically being at those altitudes.

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Rapid Induction Strategies at High Altitude

Modern military operations frequently require rapid deployment of personnel into high altitude with little or no time for physiological acclimatization. Rapid deployment of unacclimatized soldiers to high altitude/mountain environments may cause debilitating effects on operational capabilities. “Normobaric Hypoxia Chamber”has been developed to provide Intermittent Hypoxic Exposure (IHE) as one of the recent approaches to induce altitude acclimatization. It involves the use of daily intermittent hypoxic exposure in lieu of continuous stay at high altitude. IHE is known as altitude exposure, involves breathing low oxygen air periodically, living in or exercising in reduced air for the purpose of pre-acclimatization/preconditioning to high altitude . It has been found to improve the physical work performance of an individual as well as to reduce the incidence of Acute Mountain Sickness.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby VinodTK » 18 Nov 2019 02:42

Line Of Control | Patriot With Major Gaurav Arya



Good changes in equipment and protection gear, night fighting capabilites
have to see till the end to see the surveillance equipment

GOI should get rid of LMG's and replace them with 50 caliber machine guns to give range and punch

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Thakur_B » 18 Nov 2019 08:23

^^ Vinod ji, 50 cal has a very heavy logistical footprint. It consumes 8-10 times ammunition by weight and volume for similar number of rounds. 50 cal browning also has significantly higher feed failures and jams compared to LMG/MMG in use and the range advantage is not worth the headache. However to provide necessary firepower when required, 50 cal AMR are much more versatile.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby CalvinH » 18 Nov 2019 08:43

VinodTK wrote:Line Of Control | Patriot With Major Gaurav Arya



Good changes in equipment and protection gear, night fighting capabilites
have to see till the end to see the surveillance equipment

GOI should get rid of LMG's and replace them with 50 caliber machine guns to give range and punch


Thanks Vinod. Its a good one. The gear and the facilities look great.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby wig » 19 Nov 2019 04:52

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 114684.cms

Six dead after avalanche hits Army positions in Northern Siachen
Four soldiers and two civilian porters were killed after their eight-member patrol was hit by an avalanche in the northern part of the forbidding Siachen Glacier-Saltoro Ridge region on Monday afternoon.The six soldiers from the Dogra Regiment and two porters were on their way from one post to another when the avalanche struck them at a height over 19,000-feet in the Northern Glacier, which has some of the most treacherous terrain, at about 3 pm.
“Avalanche rescue teams from nearby posts were rushed to the site for the search and rescue operation. All eight were pulled out of the
avalanche debris. Seven of them were critically injured and evacuated by helicopters to the nearest military hospital. But despite best efforts and life resuscitation measures, six succumbed to extreme hypothermia,” said an officer.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby wig » 20 Nov 2019 17:21

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/ind ... 60507.html

India Army to reduce orders of sniper rifles by about 70%
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The Indian Army plans to buy just 1,800 state-of-the-art sniper rifles and 2.7 million rounds of ammunition -- less than a third of its total requirement -- driven by budgetary constraints and the need to speed up deliveries, people with knowledge of the matter said.

The military pruned its original requirement of 5,720 sniper rifles and 10 million rounds of ammunition, which would have cost $140 million, to prioritize spending and advance the purchase of more modern equipment, they said, asking not to be identified as the information isn’t public.


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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Vips » 14 Dec 2019 03:48

Soldiers deprived of snow glasses, boots, requisite food.

Indian Army troops do not have snow glasses and multi-purpose boots to wear and requisite sanctioned food to eat in high altitude areas in Siachen and Ladakh, thus exposing them to inclement weather causing ailments due to extreme cold conditions, the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has said in a report.

The CAG report on Union Government (Defence Services)-Army said Army troops are also deprived of the authorised daily consumption of food in the high altitude areas, sources said. The report also states the calorie intake of the troops is compromised as high as 82 per cent.

CAG laid the report on Union Government (Defence Services)-Army in the Rajya Sabha but failed to lay it in Lok Sabha. This stopped Comptroller and Auditor General Rajiv Mehrishi from releasing the report. But sources in Rajya Sabha, who accessed the report, claimed that the audit highlights the condition of Indian Army in high altitude areas.

The shortage in snow goggles is between 62 per cent to 98 per cent exposing soldiers' faces and eyes to extreme weather in high altitude areas. Worse, the troops had to wear old and used multi-purpose boots after the force did not received boots between November 2015 and September 2016. The situation is very pathetic, said sources adding that the troops who are deployed at high altitude guarding Indian borders are given old versions of face masks, jackets and sleeping bags. "The troops are deprived from the benefits of using improved products," the CAG report stated.

The report also highlight that the lack of research and development by defence laboratories led to continued dependence on import. Further, for the troops posted in high altitudes, special scales of rations are authorised to meet their daily energy requirements. But substitutes in lieu of scaled items were authorised on cost to cost basis, which resulted in supply of reduced quantity of substitutes.

This compromised the calorie intake of the troops by as high as 82 per cent. At Leh station the CAG found that special ration items were shown as issued to troops for consumption without their actual receipts.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby srai » 14 Dec 2019 09:06

^^^
Under-equipped jawans ... seems to be an ongoing issue. Reduce manpower if they can’t be equipped properly because of budget shortfalls.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Vips » 14 Dec 2019 21:31

If this is happening when Modi is in power then God help us. Koti Koti Vandan to the Brave Indian Soldiers.


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