Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby MeshaVishwas » 28 Jun 2020 01:43

I quite like the new Royal Marines uniform, maybe something to check out?
Interestingly Londonistan has ditched the SA80 for these elite units

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But a real awesome upgrade would be to get the French Army F3 uniform type

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https://twitter.com/ForcesOperation/sta ... 92224?s=19
Designed to withstand 7 seconds of fire, the time taken to rescue the soldier in a contingency.
Even the camo pattern is close to IA's.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby chetak » 29 Jun 2020 23:24

Deadly AH-64E Apache attack helicopters to be made in India



Deadly AH-64E Apache attack helicopters to be made in India

Huma Siddiqui
Jan 29, 2020

A joint venture with between Boeing and Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) -- Tata Boeing Aerospace Limited (TBAL) established in 2016 has been manufacturing fuselages for the AH-64 Apache.

With 90 per cent parts sourced from Indian suppliers, this advanced facility is expected to become the sole producer of AH-64 fuselages globally.

An order for six AH-64E Apache attack helicopters for the Indian Army which is expected to be placed this year will be made in India.

The $ 930 million will be through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) and is in addition to the existing order of 22 machines for the Indian Air Force (IAF). While the approval of the Cabinet Committee for Security is awaited, according to one of the US aerospace ’s giant Boeing Company has already planned to make the critical parts of the attack helicopter here in India. Talking to Financial Express Online, Michael M Koch, Vice President, India, Defense, Space & Security, “Fuselage and most of the additional structures of the helicopter will all be made here locally.”

Indian companies involved in Apache Helicopters

A joint venture with between Boeing and Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) — Tata Boeing Aerospace Limited (TBAL) established in 2016 has been manufacturing fuselages for the AH-64 Apache.

With 90 per cent parts sourced from Indian suppliers, this advanced facility is expected to become the sole producer of AH-64 fuselages globally.

Indian company Rossell Techsys which has been a long-standing supplier of Boeing since 2013 has been playing a critical role in supplying high-quality electrical panel for the AH-64 Apache. And has also been making wire harness for the helicopter.

“From the existing 160 industrial partners the number has gone up to 200 and still growing,” according to Koch.

By the year-end, as per the contract IAF is expected to induct all the 22 Apache Helicopters which are replacing the Russian MI25/35 gunships, which are gradually being phased out.

Last year in June, the US State Department had given its approval for an additional sale of the attack helicopters for the Indian Army and the Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified the US Congress about the value of the deal — $ 930 million.

Skill India & Make in India

“Company’s wholly owned engineering and technology campus with future avionics manufacturing and assembly capability is coming up near the third runway in Bengaluru. And, the focus is on not only creating a supply chain but also to create a world-class aerospace ecosystem in India,” said Koch.

“This one of the largest direct investments of the Boeing Company outside the US.”

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ks_sachin » 30 Jun 2020 11:18

Rs_singh wrote:
ks_sachin wrote:We don't have diff camo patterns.

The fact is the service issue clothing is not very good so offers and men go outside for basics and hence the diff in patterns


Ks_sachin,

I could be wrong here but I think they are from two different services. One is IA and the other is CAPF.

True,

But look at the patters of the SF colonel and the RR boy next to the CAPF johnny...

OFB sucks...

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Hiten » 01 Jul 2020 14:23

The Army Is Looking To Jazz It Up - Could Throw A New Helmet Into The Mix

A recent RFI it put up states its intent to buy 100,000 Headgears, that troops can wear pan-India - from -40o C to 50o C, Siachen to Sikar. The ergonomically designed, light-weight Solution must offer protection against 7.62 mm rounds, fired from 10 m range. Protection from 9 mm Rounds, though not specified, have been enquired about in the Questionnaire. The quantum of purchase implies that these are for the bulk Infantry soldiers.


https://www.spansen.com/2020/07/indian- ... t-mix.html

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Postby amar_p » 01 Jul 2020 14:38

And why not the same helmet to go into space while we are at it?

Its like buying a 8mm to 500mm zoom lens. Wont be good at anything.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Rs_singh » 01 Jul 2020 22:16

amar_p wrote:And why not the same helmet to go into space while we are at it?



Good one. :rotfl:

I really wonder who is smoking this good stuff and coming up with untenable SQRs. More importantly, where can I get some of that good good.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Dilbu » 02 Jul 2020 15:43

It is just to say we did RFP onlee. No Indian vendor showed up so let's purchase foreign maal onlee.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby idan » 02 Jul 2020 16:48

Royal Navy is a senior service in the UK therefore the ensign. Royal Marines have ranks like the British Army and they are an expeditionary and amphibious warfare commando force in Royal Navy. They have seen extensive action in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. SAS is special forces airborne troops and part of British Army.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby RajaRudra » 02 Jul 2020 16:59

https://twitter.com/akashrai_3575/statu ... 8944817157

Design and development of a new 1,000 kilometre strike range Land Attack Cruise Missile (Nirbhaya) by DRDO has also been cleared.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Armuan » 02 Jul 2020 19:56

RajaRudra wrote:

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https://twitter.com/akashrai_3575/statu ... 1844065280

Just In: Defence Acquisitions Council approves proposal for procurement of 12 Sukhoi-30MKIs & 21 MiG-29s, along with upgradation of existing 59 MiG-29s. The MiG-29 procurement & upgradation from Russia will cost Rs 7,418 crore. The 12 Sukhois from HAL around Rs 10,730 Cr.

Someone is on Steroid and approving things ASAP..


Wishing such speed, albeit with due diligence for local MIC as well beyond acquisitions during peace times as well.
Regarding the upgrades for the existing 59 MiG-29s, are these beyond the UPG upgrades? Are there unclassified details on what this entails?

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby nachiket » 03 Jul 2020 00:10

Armuan wrote:Regarding the upgrades for the existing 59 MiG-29s, are these beyond the UPG upgrades? Are there unclassified details on what this entails?

Being discussed in AF thread.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby MeshaVishwas » 04 Jul 2020 17:12

Any good articles on our Bhishma?
I read AM Anil Chopra sir's article on Air Power Asia(very good site BTW) but it lead to a lot of questions to which no difinitive answers, questions like:
When did we start using Kanchan?
Do we have the Saab LEDS 150 on them?
Is the power pack on the early ones rated at 840 BHP?(V92S2 on later then?)
Hunter Killer capability missing?!
Thermal sights are still 2nd gen Thales ones?
Kaktus ERA on some and Kontakt ERA on the rest?
And others that I do not remember now.

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby nishant.gupta » 04 Jul 2020 18:46

MeshaVishwas wrote:Any good articles on our Bhishma?
I read AM Anil Chopra sir's article on Air Power Asia(very good site BTW) but it lead to a lot of questions to which no difinitive answers, questions like:
When did we start using Kanchan?
Do we have the Saab LEDS 150 on them?
Is the power pack on the early ones rated at 840 BHP?(V92S2 on later then?)
Hunter Killer capability missing?!
Thermal sights are still 2nd gen Thales ones?
Kaktus ERA on some and Kontakt ERA on the rest?
And others that I do not remember now.


https://airpowerasia.com/2020/07/03/t-90-bhishma-tanks-in-ladakh-a-comprehensive-look/

A very comprehensive article on history of T-90.

https://defenceupdate.in/t-90m-bhishma-indias-main-battle-tank-mbt/

Another one which also discusses Kanchan on the T-90 produced (assembled) locally

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby pankajs » 08 Jul 2020 21:22

Watchable ... I did not find it posted; Mods let me know if it needs to be moved into some other thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FdnWWCnf8U
Algebra: Lt.General Hooda & Nitin Gokhale

Lt.General Hooda & Nitin Gokhale with Manika Berry Asgaonkar at Algebra The Arts & Ideas Club, Bengaluru on dated 29-September-2019 at The Leela Palace Bengaluru


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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby kirpalbasra » 08 Jul 2020 21:57

idan wrote:Royal Navy is a senior service in the UK therefore the ensign. Royal Marines have ranks like the British Army and they are an expeditionary and amphibious warfare commando force in Royal Navy. They have seen extensive action in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. SAS is special forces airborne troops and part of British Army.

Royal Navy have their own special forces picked from the Royal Marines they are called SBS.The Special Boat Service (SBS) is the special forces unit of the United Kingdom's Royal Navy. The SBS can trace its origins back to the Second World War when the Army Special Boat Section was formed in 1940. After the Second World War, the Royal Navy formed special forces with several name changes—Special Boat Company was adopted in 1951 and re-designated as the Special Boat Squadron in 1974—until on 28 July 1987 when the unit was renamed as the Special Boat Service after assuming responsibility. I would say the American seals would be equal and I heard that Indian Marocs are similar being Navy lead. Being Navy I would say SBS are the daddies compared to SAS and as the SEALS are to there Land compatriots and Marcos also ,

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby mukkan » 08 Jul 2020 22:07

Long overdue

Army asks soldiers, officers to delete Facebook and Instagram, uninstall 80 apps


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst

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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby Manish_Sharma » 10 Jul 2020 05:22

https://defence.capital/2020/07/09/indi ... ssion=true

India Army seeks 800 Night Sight with Thermal Imaging for automatic grenade launchers

New Delhi: The Indian Army has sought vendor responses to buy 804 night sights with thermal imaging capability for 30mm automatic anti-personnel grenade launchers, to enhance their utilisation during operations.

The AGS-30 — as the grenade launcher is called in the Infantry Directorate — engagements at present are carried out with the help of daylight sight unit PAG-17. There is no night sight held for AGS-30.

“Therefore, due to the restricted inventory, a number of limitations exist in the employability of AGS-30. The firer has to be well-versed with the computation chart related to the range and corresponding elevation for effective utilisation of PAG-17,” the Expression of Interest (EOI) document issued on July 7 said. The responses to the EOI would have to be submitted before Aug. 7.

“More so, under obscure and poor visibility conditions, the PAG-17 cannot be utilised to engage targets. The range estimation requires separate equipment. At night, the effective engagement of the target can be undertaken only when related data has been recorded under daylight condition,” it said.

“Impromptu target engagement is difficult and has severe limitations at night. The launcher has to be mounted at exactly same location at night from where data was recorded during daytime. Else, the AGS will be misaligned.”

All these issues substantially constrain the effective utilisation of this versatile weapon system and resultantly, limit operational effectiveness of the sub-unit.

“To overcome above mentioned limitations, the Indian Army is progressing the scheme for procurement of Night Sight (Thermal Imaging) for AGS-30 under the ‘Make-II‘ Category of the Defence Procurement Procedure of 2016 incorporating all amendments up to Nov. 1, 2019.”

From the technology scan of Indian defence industry, the army has ascertained that similar systems have been delivered by firms for larger platforms like aircraft and battle tanks. “Therefore, the biggest challenges envisaged for the project are miniaturisation of the sub-systems and their integration to the AGS-30.”

According to the EOI document, the objective is to seek the willingness of Indian vendors to participate in the ‘Make-II’ project under the amended Chapter IIIA of the DPP-2016, development of prototype and further procurement of the Night Sight with Thermal Imaging for AGS-30.

“Indian vendors meeting the Technical, Commercial, and Project requirements laid out in the EOI will be, as the next step, issued a ‘Project Sanction Order‘ to develop a prototype on ‘No Cost – No Commitment‘ (NCNC) basis. All trials of the project will be on NCNC basis,” the EOI document said.

The commercial Request for Proposal (RFP) for ‘Buy (Indian-IDDM)‘ would be issued to Development Agencies prior to commencement of Field Evaluation Trials (FET) to solicit their commercial offers and additional technical information and documentation, as may be necessary.



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Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Postby ramana » 10 Jul 2020 06:33

What a late discovery!

And the arrogance of the RFI creator.

Indian vendors meeting the Technical, Commercial, and Project requirements laid out in the EOI will be, as the next step, issued a ‘Project Sanction Order‘ to develop a prototype on ‘No Cost – No Commitment‘ (NCNC) basis. All trials of the project will be on NCNC basis,” the EOI document said.


Any other country will fund two- three developers and select the best.

The quantity required is less than a 1000. And to require a NCNC contract is horrible.


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