Viv S wrote:
Been trawling Russian BRF sites. The consensus there also points to Су-57 being found abhorrently expensive for IAF and the idea coming up of offering a "Silent Su-35" in place. The Russian believe that a modified Su-35 can be a better export contender to not only India but Arab markets.24th Feb
. Pasting below translated version referenced from The Diplomat.
логотип The Diplomat The Diplomat , Japan
Многоцелевой сверхманевренный истребитель Су-35 во время демонстрационного полета на Международном авиационно-космическом салоне МАКС - 2013 в Жуковском
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Can Russia create a version of the Su-35 fifth generation for India?
The insignificant Su-35 is what India needs to keep up with China and Pakistan.
02/24/2018 40 13070
The future of the Indian program for the creation of a fifth-generation fighter (FGFA) based on the Russian Su-57 is in question today, and in these circumstances Moscow is negotiating with New Delhi to develop a fifth-generation version of the Su-35 for India. If this plan is implemented, the Indian Air Force will receive a fighter of winning superiority in the air of the fifth generation at a lower cost than the modification of the Su-57. India has an acute need for such a machine in the light of the fact that neighboring China is adopting a heavy fighter of the fifth generation J-20.
At the international exhibition of arms and military equipment in Abu Dhabi, the head of the Russian "Rostekh" Sergei Chemezov said: "We are holding talks and signed a protocol of intentions on the Su-35. Now we are developing ideas for this contract and are working on creating a production base for a fifth-generation aircraft. "
It is not yet clear what the volume of the possible Indian order will be, but this country can buy more than 100 cars if we take into account the volume of previous orders and the planned volume of orders for a fifth-generation FGFA fighter.
If the reports on the development of the fifth-generation platform based on the Su-35 are correct, the results can be very intriguing, and it is possible that Russia will create one of the most modern fighters in the world. The standard design of the Su-35 completely corresponds to the characteristics of a fifth generation fighter, except that it does not have the properties of low visibility. The variant Su-35 of the fifth generation, most likely, will be nothing more than a modification of this fighter of the "4 ++" generation, but with the characteristics of low visibility.
Малозаметный многоцелевой истребитель Т-50 (Су-57)
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This is not the first attempt to create such a modification. Since the United States does not want to export its fifth-generation F-22 Raptor for export, Boeing is carrying out a large-scale modification of the airframe of its F-15E strike fighter, trying to create the F-15SE model of the Silent Eagle. This is a variant of a fighter with a reduced frontal radar effective scattering surface and with a radio-absorbing coating. The F-15E does not have advanced on-board radio electronic equipment, modern missiles and the super maneuverability of the Su-35, and it can not be considered a fifth-generation airplane even with low-profile characteristics. However, the variant F-15E with the characteristics of invisibility will become a good substitute for the "Raptor" for the US allies, since it will be a machine with a low level of unmasking traits. Saudi Arabia, which currently has more than 150 F-15 and F-15E aircraft, is showing great interest in such a car. The proposed modifications of the Su-35 are likely to be largely similar to those implemented in the F-15E in order to create the F-15SE.
It remains to be seen whether Russia will want to export its Su-57. And as some potential buyers want to get a fighter of gaining superiority with unobtrusive characteristics, the modified version of the Su-35, created on the basis of the same concept as the F-15SE, may well be less expensive and very popular product. In 2017, the United Arab Emirates, in cooperation with Russia, began to develop a fifth-generation fighter, and also showed interest in purchasing Su-35 in large quantities. The unobtrusive version of this fighter, which meets the requirements for the fifth-generation platform, despite its weaker characteristics compared to the Su-57, can become an ideal vehicle for this Arab state, as well as for India.
By purchasing such airplanes, India will gain the most important advantages over such fighters of gaining superiority in the air as the upgraded Chinese J-11B and Su-30. As Pakistan creates its own light, low-profile fighter, New Delhi has an urgent need for stealth technology. The upgraded version of the Su-35 will cost much more than a standard fighter, and the requirements for its repair and maintenance will be much stricter and more burdensome. If the unobtrusive Su-35 is equipped with the latest Russian missiles, such as the K-77 (developed for the Su-57) or the R-37 interceptor missiles with a launch range of 400 kilometers, it will be truly deadly and effective with cost perspective an alternative to the FGFA fighter.
- First time I am hearing of Bakis creating their own stealth fighter
- Reference to R-37 is understood. What is the K-77? Novator-100 in a new avatar? If anyone in teh know can enlighten