Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby NRao » 27 Jul 2014 19:14

Rien,

Read things more carefully.

Rien wrote:You shoot from the hip without making a cursory fact check. Google is my friend, it can be yours as well. Also, if you read the article you linked

Without the waivers, both companies could have faced sanctions for violating federal law and the F-35 program could have faced further delays.

"It was a pretty big deal and an unusual situation because there's a prohibition on doing defense work in China, even if it's inadvertent," said Frank Kenlon, who recently retired as a senior Pentagon procurement official and now teaches at American University. "I'd never seen this happen before."

The Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, is examining three such cases involving the F-35, the U.S. military's next generation fighter, the documents show.


Your link just proved I was right. It's against Federal law. Read the article, not just the headline.


If one does not have a waiver, for items that need one, then one gets into trouble. IF one has a waiver, why would they get into trouble? Applies to the Dell case too.

Indians have been trained and used to service Apache in A'stan. .................. Waiver.

It is against Federal law, *IF* you *do not have a waiver*. Same as with the Dell laptop/desktop.

Rien wrote:google my friend


No need.

Rien wrote:War is war, even if it you call it public policy or collateral damage.


I agree.

However, your first post had an example of "Ohio" - the State of Ohio.

While your second example had India + WTO - that is a Federal issue.

State and federals do not mix and match (with some exception). While what the Feds do could impact other nations (like India), what any State does, it does not matter (unless the two have an agreement) or a waiver. Standard ops since decades.

Rien wrote:Produce one exception made for an Indian company. You showed me a Chinese company. I'm asking for an exemption for any Indian company.


Come up with a list of Indian companies that have applied and see why they were denied a waiver. Simple.

There are plenty of foreign companies, including Indian, that have "cleared" section (physical), an indicator that they are doing some work in that space. Then there are foreign companies like Accenture, Capgemini, etc, that have spun of companies that are dedicated to Federal work. You will be very, very, very surprised how much cleared work is conducted by foreign companies.

Now, why have no Indian majors spun off I have no clue - something to ask them.

Else follow the rules, get a waiver, and one should plain be fine.




BTW, the USN is looking abroad for small radars for her LCS ships. Indians should apply.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby member_22605 » 28 Jul 2014 07:49

NRao sir, despite your liking for the US maal the fact is that US suppliers(and also its allies like Japan etc) are not reliable and that's one of the reasons why we try and stay away from any US vendor unless absolutely necessary. And also in another thread you seem to be too happy to deride Russian equipment while praising the american equipment to be the best and without equal, while the fact is neither is the Russian equipment as inferior as you assume nor is the US ware as awesome as you believe. BTW i am not a supporter of Russian hardware nor am i against the US, i just feel the Russians get a lot of unnecessary bad publicity probably because they like us (Indians) cant make glossy brochures filled technical jargon that sounds very impressive.
Cheers!

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Thakur_B » 27 Nov 2014 05:26

To meet growing needs of carbon fibre, especially in the strategic and aerospace sectors, Midhani has also entered into a partnership with the National Aerospace Lab (NAL) in Bengaluru for joint production that can be scaled up to meet emergent requirements. With Midhani's Rs 200 crore capacity expansion programme virtually complete (it is likely to be inaugurated and ready for production by mid-2015), fresh capacities are finally becoming available for the corporation to begin thinking of an export plan that had been detailed earlier this year. Its current projects include aeronautical grade titanium, ultra super-critical alloys and high grade steels. While Midhani has not revealed what its export catalogue will contain, it is likely to support civilian aerospace, space and indigenous military efforts in other countries.


http://www.spsmai.com/exclusive/?id=440&q=MIDHANI-Scouts-Govt-support-for-new-steel-hub

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby member_20292 » 01 Dec 2014 22:46

What opportunities are there in the defence sector for me to do a startup and put in some venture capital in a useful area?

Anybody's doing this here ?

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby member_20292 » 04 Dec 2014 22:37

?

any defence startups that would hire a materials guy ....i'm sure lots.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Zynda » 05 Dec 2014 01:10

mahadevbhu wrote:?

any defence startups that would hire a materials guy ....i'm sure lots.


Assuming, you are asking about firms in India (not outside) ,Tata Advanced Materials Limited (TAML) comes to my mind if composites is your area of expertise. There are a bunch of pvt firms which manufacture ballistic personal armors but I suspect they get the designs from DRDO (or another source).

If you are looking at private firms (MNC); Eaton, GE & Dupont hire Material Science folks AFAIK.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Zynda » 05 Dec 2014 01:14

Also, I highly doubt, you may wanna check Team Indus (desi start up sending a probe/rover to moon on Google-X's prize money) website to find if they have any openings for a Material Science guy.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Indranil » 09 Dec 2014 09:26

Absolute landmine of information

Drdo Prodyogiki Vishesh, Sept-Dec2014

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Thakur_B » 09 Dec 2014 18:49

indranilroy wrote:Absolute landmine of information

Drdo Prodyogiki Vishesh, Sept-Dec2014


That is a hindi version of a very old techfocus (2010 I believe). For eg, NBC Suit Mk-IV mentioned in it has already been superseded by NBC Suit Mk-V. Techfocus issues have hit an air pocket this year. Either they have restricted it to internal circulation only, considering that we here on BR go through every sentence to dig up as much open source intelligence as we can, or maybe they are simply short on staff to release it.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Sagar G » 09 Dec 2014 19:34

I agree there is nothing new in it, it's only a mishmash of various previous techfocus articles. Dat jawbreaking Hindi though :mrgreen:

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Indranil » 09 Dec 2014 22:14

I did not know about the developments on the HPT blades.

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Sagar G » 09 Dec 2014 22:21

^^^ Techfocus April 2011 pg.2

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Re: Aerospace materials for Dhruv, Rudra, Tejas and MCA

Postby Indranil » 09 Dec 2014 23:41

Thank you. I had completely missed this.


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