tsarkar wrote:There are NO HAL components in MiG-29 UPG program. It’s run by IAF 11 BRD at Nashik with zero involvement from HAL
I was talking about the new 21 order, the news article for which mentioned additional upgrades for the current (already upgraded) fleet as well, which could be the indigenous mission computer. The HAL made mission computer is already on the upgraded Mirage-2000I and the Jaguar DARIN-3. Makes sense for it to be added tot he 29 as well. Will enable easier integration of Astra and other Indian munitions if the IAF requires them.
No, it doesnt financially and technically.
India paid for MiG-29K/KUB development including mission computer for 45 aircraft. Thereafter the IAF further amortized the cost over an upgrade of 59 aircraft.
The mission computer is referenced here in Kapil Chandni's report from 2010 here.http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Gall ... ?g2_page=2
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Gall ... 1.JPG.html
The navigation suite includes a RLG INS with GPS and GLONASS updates, ILS, MLS and TACAN. Communications suite includes two V/UHF R/T sets, one H/F RT set and a datalink. The primary sensors are a Zhuk-ME pulsed Doppler radar that works in a-a, a-s, weather and terrain avoidance modes, a powerful OLS with a look down capability, the indigenous Tarang RWR and an Elta supplied ASPJ. The pilot has a Topsight HMS and target designation system. A quadruplex FBW system and autopilot allows carefree maneuvering with g’s, speed, AoA limited automatically. The airplane has an autopilot that is integrated with the mission computer and auto throttle system. The avionics are also NVG compatible.
You referred to Mirage 2000 and Jaguar using HAL mission computers. That makes sense because both aircraft were from the 80's, are 40 years old and required new mission computers. In case of the MiG-29K/KUB/UPG they have been recently built/upgraded in the last 10 years with a nearly brand new mission computer.
HAL doesnt have a ready MC for MiG-29. It will have to develop & build brand new or customize a MC from other programs.
1. When HAL or IAF go to MoD Integrated Finance Advisors for Acceptance of Necessity (AoN), who will approve additional spending when money has already been spent on developing MiG-29K/KUB/UPG Mission Computer and additional units available cheaper than a brand new development program?
2. What incremental technical benefits will the HAL MC offer over existing MiG-29K/KUB/UPG MC developed a few years ago? Not much.
The existing MiG-29K/KUB/UPG mission computers being open standards can easily integrate Astra or any indigenous weapons.
3. 45+59 MiG-29K/KUB/UPG use Russian MC and 21 will use HAL MC. This will impact ICY within the fleet. You would very well know the importance of ICY from Tejas story.
4. Development of new MC by HAL for 21 MiG-29K/KUB/UPG followed by rigorous testing will take time defeating the very purpose of quick induction of 21 aircraft
HAL MC on MiG-29 is fake wishes/aspirations/news of uninformed people on the internet or twitter who extrapolate news of Mirage 2000 and Jaguar upgrades not knowing the depth of the MiG-29K/KUB/UPG program.