India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

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Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Postby Karan M » 12 Jan 2020 09:24

Image of Green Pine:
https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/ ... 40_001.jpg

Idea of size:
https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/ ... ew_001.jpg

Image of Super Green Pine, aka Green Pine Block B
https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/ ... 40_002.jpg

Image of LRTR:
http://i.imgur.com/FmMa7ng.jpg

DRDO's own image from LRDE shows the Super Green Pine at the beginning and a new LRTR variant towards the end (integrated IFF arrays/missile guidance arrays, looks like).
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Postby Karthik S » 12 Jan 2020 09:31

Karan, BEL is tied up with Thales for OTH Radar, do you think LRTR will be reduntant once OTH Radar comes online?

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Postby Karan M » 12 Jan 2020 16:06

Not at all. Completely different classes of systems. LRTR is (relatively) high grade surveillance and fire control, backed up by MFCR for even more precise fire control. OTH is basically going to have far less resolution. It will serve as an initial EW sensor to direct other higher precision sensors towards important targets.

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Postby kit » 12 Jan 2020 16:12

Karan M wrote:https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-south-korea-to-procure-iai-missile-defense-radar-systems-1001262450

South Korea is to buy two more Green Pine early warning missile defense radar systems from Israel Aerospace Industries Ltd. (IAI) (TASE: ARSP.B1) unit ELTA, the country's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) procurement agency has reported. The deal is worth $292 million.

The improved Block C radar systems have a detection range of up to 800 kilometers compared with the 600 kilometer detection range of the systems deployed by the South Korean military back in 2009. Reports from South Korea say that the new systems will be delivered and deployed in the early 2020s.

The new system will be able to, "identify and track ballistic missiles from a remote distance shortly after launch," the DAPA said.


Assuming target RCS is the same as mentioned for the LRTR, this indicates the original desi LRTR variant was roughly equal to the improved Green Pine Block B aka Super Green Pine introduced by Israel only in 2012-13. And the current improved LRTR, is analogous to the Block-C.


There were indeed reports of the "Swordfish" radar ranging more than 800 km

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordfish_Long_Range_Tracking_Radar

Wiki mentions DRDO testing new versions ranging out to 1500 km way back in 2012 , we may not know the exact status of such advanced variants

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Postby kit » 12 Jan 2020 16:20

Karan M wrote:Not at all. Completely different classes of systems. LRTR is (relatively) high grade surveillance and fire control, backed up by MFCR for even more precise fire control. OTH is basically going to have far less resolution. It will serve as an initial EW sensor to direct other higher precision sensors towards important targets.



OTH radar resolutions have been much refined from its beginnings as in Australias Jindalee that ranges out to 3000 km. BAE upgrades to the hardware and software permits much higher resolution and data processing, with exact "new capabilities" classified.

Points to note " JORN uses the Doppler principle to detect objects, it cannot detect objects moving at a tangent to the system, or objects moving at a similar speed to their surroundings"

The JORN network is operated by No. 1 Remote Sensor Unit (1RSU). Data from the JORN sites is fed to the JORN Coordination Centre at RAAF Base Edinburgh where it is passed on to other agencies and military units. Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe air and sea activity north of Australia to distances up to 4000 km.[26] This encompasses all of Java, Irian Jaya, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, and may include Singapore.[27] However, in 1997, the prototype was able to detect missile launches by China[28] over 5,500 kilometres (3,400 mi) away.

JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. Current research is anticipated to increase its sensitivity by a factor of ten beyond this level.[citation needed]

It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft, as typically these are designed only to avoid detection by microwave radar.Project DUNDEE was a cooperative research project, with American missile defence research, into using JORN to detect missiles. The JORN was anticipated to play a role in future Missile Defense Agency initiatives, detecting and tracking missile launches in Asia.

As JORN is reliant on the interaction of signals with the ionosphere ('bouncing'), disturbances in the ionosphere adversely affect performance. The most significant factor influencing this is solar changes, which include sunrise, sunset and solar disturbances. The effectiveness of JORN is also reduced by extreme weather, including lightning and rough seas.

As JORN uses the Doppler principle to detect objects, it cannot detect objects moving at a tangent to the system, or objects moving at a similar speed to their surroundings

source : Wiki

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Postby Karan M » 13 Jan 2020 07:40

Kit, nothing in that Wiki excerpt says the range resolution of a JORN type setup can match what we require from a LRTR for a fire control solution. The missiles onboard seeker is for terminal guidance not for doing a wide area search and locating a target in a cell many many kilometers wide.

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Postby srin » 13 Jan 2020 08:19

So, my understanding is that typical OTH radars work by bouncing signals off the ionosphere. This means they necessarily use low frequencies - in the HF range and below (google for "critical frequency" and "maximum usable frequency").

This means it is pretty much unreliable to detect objects in near space - such as ballistic missiles before re-entry and satellites (if you want to do ASAT).
And because ionosphere bounce is pretty unreliable, and reflected signals can also bounce off, I'm also not sure how very good directivity is achieved, unless they use multiple yagi receivers scattered over a huge area. So, it means it is really hard to do tracking.
This also means each antenna element is really big (100 times larger compared to L-band for instance), they need large installations.

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Postby lakshmanM » 13 Jan 2020 10:07

Didn't have to wait for this one, the radar was revealed back in 2018 :D
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https://www.drdo.gov.in/sites/default/files/whats_new_document/DRDO_Newsletter_Jan_2020_1.pdf
DRDO News Letter
January 2020 | volume 40 | issue 1

● DRDO tests Pinaka artillery Missile System in salvo mode
● QRSAM Successfully Test-Fired off Odisha Coast
● BrahMos Tested from Land and Air Platforms

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Postby jaysimha » 13 Jan 2020 15:59

Make in India: DRDO’s foray into hearing implants, exoskeletons and prosthetics These are some of the items DRDO is making for civilians and the military
By Prathima Nandakumar January 08, 2020 22:10 IST

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Here’s How Siachen Troops Can Grow Fresh Veggies With DIHAR’s New Technology
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Defence Institute of High Altitude Research (DIHAR), a DRDO’s laboratory and research entity for developing agri-technologies for higher altitude and cold desert areas, recently announced that it has developed a ‘micro-green’ or hydroponic technology to help soldiers grow fresh fruits and vegetables, without soil.

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DRDO develops 'mirchi bomb' inspired from the spicy bhut jolokia'Mirchi bomb' can be used in different situations of low intensity conflict Rekha Dixit By Rekha Dixit January 09, 2020 21:06 IST

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Vice Admiral Anil Kumar Chawla, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command (SNC), has dropped a few hints about reviving the Nirdesh


https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/kozhikode/a-glimmer-of-hope-for-revival-of-nirdesh/article30596340.ece

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Postby Vips » 27 Jan 2020 20:39

Jindal Defence in JV with Brazil's Taurus Armas for making small arms.

Jindal Defence, part of O P Jindal Group, today announced its foray into small arms manufacturing in India via a joint venture (JV) agreement with Taurus Armas S.A., of Brazil.

With an initial investment of $5 million in a project that is to be developed in phases, the agreement proposes setting up a plant at Hisar (Haryana). The venture has equity participation from Jindal Defence and Taurus Armas S.A, in the equity ratio of 51:49.

This move by the Abhyuday Jindal-promoted Jindal Defence is expected to bolster Indo-Brazil cooperation in the strategic defence sector, the former said in a release today.

The JV company will make small arms in India based on transfer of technology from Taurus to achieve localisation of production in accordance with the Defence Procurement Procedures, said the release.

This partnership aims to maximise existing domestic opportunities in the small arms manufacturing sector and provide significant support to the ongoing and future modernisation plans of the Armed Forces, particularly the Indian Army, the Para-Military, and State Police Forces.

Further, this move is in sync with the government’s vision of greater private sector participation in defence hardware manufacturing.

While the production of the arms will take place in Hisar, the venture is expected to come up with its production by September FY21, said a source close to the development.

“The JV company envisages creation of world-class infrastructure along with adoption of best manufacturing practices to achieve perfection in design and engineering, and achieve high quality standards. Moreover, with the technological expertise emerging with this JV, we aim to support the emerging demands of the Indian Armed Forces”, the release quoted Abhyuday Jindal as saying.

Currently, Abhyuday Jindal is also the managing director of Jindal Stainless Limited.

Jindal has been eyeing the defence space for a while now. In 2017, as part of its expansion strategy, Jindal Stainless had plans to enter defence, nuclear energy and aerospace among other niche segments.

In March 2017, Jindal Stainless had signed a licence agreement with the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) to make high nitrogen steel (HNS) for armour applications, at the Hisar plant. DRDO was to transfer the technology.

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Safer mortar fuzes to be adopted soon
To avoid premature explosion of a mortar round, the Chandigarh-based Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory (TBRL) has developed electronic fuze for 81mm mortar bombs. The fuze used at present can detonate due to heat or friction in the atmosphere. A mortar is a weapon that fires explosive projectiles (mortar bombs) at low velocities and short ranges.
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Bengaluru, January 20, 2020: Navratna Defence PSU Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) has successfully commissioned Phase I of the Real Time Train Information System (RTIS), which provides real-time train information to the Indian Railways, thereby increasing its operational efficiency, in addition to enhancing passenger safety.

The system has been commissioned through the Centre for Railway Information System (CRIS), under the technical guidance of Space Applications Centre (SAC), ISRO.

RTIS provides real-time positional information of locomotives to the Railways. It facilitates automatic acquisition of train movement data, including that of arrival, departure and run-through timings, at the stations en route.

The control chart of trains, which has RTIS-enabled locomotives, gets plotted automatically in the Control Office Application (COA) system of the Railways. The Train Controllers can, without any manual intervention, accurately track the location and speed of RTIS-enabled locomotives/trains. Not only does the system facilitate smooth control of trains, but it also optimises traffic management, improves operational efficiency and pre-empts accidents.

The RTIS project involved installation of Locomotive Device, which tracks the location of trains using S-Band Mobile Satellite Service (S-MSS) of ISRO’s GSAT 6 satellite as well as 4G/3G mobile data service, setting up of MSS Hub and Data Centre with hardware and application software at the Centre for Railway Information Systems (CRIS), Chanakyapuri.

The technology of the Locomotive Device has been indigenously developed. The entire application software, including the HUB Network Monitoring System (NMS), has been developed inhouse by BEL. RTIS is a shining example of ‘Make In India’ as it has been entirely designed, developed and manufactured within the country.

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Postby jaysimha » 30 Jan 2020 10:22

ramana wrote:This is more good news for EF for mortars improves their reliability and reduces dud rate.
Less UXB to clear later.
Hope it has a proximity function.
Please find details.
Many good things from this.


Surely ,, will try..


https://drdo.gov.in/sites/default/files/technology-focus-documrnt/Tech_Focus_Feb_Draft_2020_WEB.pdf

Ignition System for Solid Rocket Motors


DRDO Tech Focus
VOL 28 | ISSUE 1 | February 2020

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Postby jaysimha » 30 Jan 2020 16:29

Karnataka: Four-wheelers get Hubballi makeover as army ambulances

Soothing touch in rugged terrain

https://www.deccanherald.com/state/karnataka-four-wheelers-get-hubballi-makeover-as-army-ambulances-798178.html

Two variants of advance life support ambulances, offering treatment and transport facility for the injured soldiers in the Himalayan region, are being developed in Hubballi.

After the project was awarded by Defence Bioengineering & Electromedical Laboratory (DEBEL) of the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO), Hubballi-based Able Design Engineering Services Private Limited has designed two types of ambulances, while Steira Technovations India Private Limited is modifying two vehicles into 'ICU on wheels'.


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Postby Vips » 04 Feb 2020 03:10

Soon, tech that can aid forces in ‘beyond enemy lines’operations.

A special personnel tracker being developed for 'strategic use' holds the potential of aiding India’s armed forces sent on ‘beyond the enemy lines’ operations in the future, and the fact that the new technology is completely indigenous will mean more secrecy.

As part of its Indian Regional Navigation Satellite System (IRNSS), the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) has developed the technology for the said personnel tracker, and transferred the same to Defense PSU Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL).

This technology is not part of the regular chipsets or other receivers developed as part of IRNSS programme. This will be part of ‘Restricted Service’ (IRNSS-RS), developed specifically for strategic users of the country, a source from the department of space, said.

Isro has been quiet about this technology, which has been in the works for at least 18 months now. One official Isro document that partially explains this and other IRNSS-RS technologies, reads: “The IRNSS–RS provides location navigation service with anti-spoofing technology for authorized users. Personnel Tracker gives position information in TDMA mode of operation.”

TDMA or time-division multiple access mode — which separates users according to time — ensures that there will be no interference from simultaneous transmissions, while anti-spoofing technology prevents traffic from false sources (IP addresses).

In a written reply to TOI on whether it was developing a personnel tracker, BEL said: “BEL has signed an agreement with Isro for development of a two-way reporting terminal and personnel tracker based on IRNSS. The two-way reporting terminal will be used to track the position of fishing vessels and reporting emergencies. The personnel tracker will be a one way reporting terminal for reporting the position of person/vehicle based on IRNSS.”

Elaborating on this, sources said given that IRNSS covers the entire sub-continent region, if a team of armed forces personnel “were on a job on the other side (of the border), their commanders back home will know their exact position at all times.”

The Isro document further read: “The tracker supports small message as well as data transfer through satellite and USB/Bluetooth user data interface. This tracker will be used to track the person in the field of operation in situations like disaster rescue operation, surveillance etc.”

When asked a specific question on its uses in “beyond enemy lines” operations, Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI: “I don’t want to elaborate on this question as it is a strategic project.” On the benefits of tracking ships and personnel, he said: “It has complete strategic uses, we shouldn’t discuss it now.”

Sources said that the fact this technology would be working on completely indigenous technology, including the satellite used to get the location — longitude and latitude — makes it more suitable for such operations.

Before IRNSS, while India could, using its remote sensing satellites map areas of operation/s, it had to depend on foreign resources like the GPS for location and navigation services. “Now, the data will remain with us and only us,” another source said.

Apart from this technology, BEL, working jointly with Isro has developed a portable IRNSS Receiver for navigation applications. “As an offshoot of this programme, BEL has developed variants based on IRNSS-RS receiver functionality such as PTS (Precision Time Servers) in both rack mount and wall mount form factors and receivers with Map-based navigation application.”

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