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Postby chaitanya » 18 Jun 2020 22:16

No, its not about beatings, its about perspective. I do not disagree with you that they have contributed more than most, but it seems like there are significant administrative hurdles to getting anything implemented. We see frustration everywhere, but there seems to be more of the same 'chalta hai' attitude when it comes to clearances, procurement, etc. I think it would be good to remind these people very visibly what the 'chalta hai' attitude when it comes to administrative work does to the nation's security and the people who fight for it. I don't think its any one person or institutions fault (thus I am not sure this I the right thread for this). I just think there needs to be a significant mindset change, in everyone from the OFB union to the babus in the MOD.

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Postby Mollick.R » 19 Jun 2020 16:20

IIT-Madras and General Electric tie-up to build a next-gen combustor for small aircraft and helicopter engines
By Dia Rekhi, ET Bureau|Last Updated: Jun 19, 2020, 11.23 AM IST

Chennai: IIT Madras and General Electric India Technology Centre (GEITC) are jointly developing a 3D printed combustor aimed at reducing weight and improving fuel efficiency in small aircraft and helicopter engines.

Both organisations are designing the combustor - the burner in a gas turbine engine, with nearly one-tenth of the parts as compared to traditional engines.

The Rs 7.24 crore Uchhatar Avishkar Yojana (UAY) project is being carried out by the aerospace department at the Institute and is being funded by the government of India (75%) and GEITC (25%).

"The fabricated combustor has only four parts whereas the same combustor, with conventional manufacturing, will have at least thirty parts," said Prof SR Chakravarthy, Faculty In-charge, National Centre for Combustion Research - NCCRD at IIT Madras.

"The primary objective of this project is to reduce the length of the combustor, which will reduce its weight. It also reduces the fuel consumption of the engine," he said.

The engine could also be used in power generation. In larger aircraft, it could be used as part of an auxiliary power unit (APU), as well as for distributed/decentralised power generation as in backup gensets, or in remote locations, or along with hybrid solar/wind smart grid solutions.

While there have been several improved combustors designs recently, this project aims to further improve these metrics with a design that uses additive manufacturing technology and non-intrusive laser diagnostics.

The project team has successfully completed testing three 8-cup full annular combustor configurations. The results show the feasibility of 30% reduction in length of a conventional rich burn combustor. Currently, the team is focussing on the optical diagnostics experiments where laser diagnostics tools are being used to understand the flow physics inside the combustor. These results will help optimize the performance and to probe any further possibilities of length reduction, the professor said.

The size and weight of the engine would be the same depending upon how the combustor is designed to fit into the rest of the engine. The weight savings, however, will be on the raw material of fabrication in additive manufacturing. This could lead to a substantial drop in weight, as much as 50% when compared to conventional combustors.

Further, Dr Chakravarthy said the additive manufacturing of the combustors which were tested for this project were outsourced to Indian suppliers. These suppliers, he said, were now capable of adapting additive techniques for geometries as complex as combustor domes and liner, which in turn would help in developing the country’s additive manufacturing infrastructure.

A special feature of this project is that it marks the first time that a 3D printed full annular combustor was tested at actual turbine conditions in India. The lab, which is housed in the National Centre for Combustion Research and Development (NCCRD) at IIT-M also boasts of being the first in India to have a high pressure optically accessible combustor test rig and state of the art laser diagnostics tools under one roof.

IIT-M has an IP rights share with GEITC and expects GEITC to immediately use this in their product. Going forward, Dr Chakravarthy said that if GEITC is not absorbing the technology, for whatever reason, they have the first right of refusal after a lock-in period for IIT-M to commercialise the IP. Commercialization will be in the form of licensing to similar such engine houses as GEITC or to a start-up to develop a product that could be incubated by IIT-M itself.


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Postby Rakesh » 25 Jun 2020 18:10

Click on the link below and read this tweet....

https://twitter.com/Maverick_bharat/sta ... 1511667712

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Postby basant » 25 Jun 2020 19:04

Rakesh wrote:Click on the link below and read this tweet....

https://twitter.com/Maverick_bharat/sta ... 1511667712

Not just officers and babus but netas also should face inquiry and charges of sedition.

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Postby darshan » 25 Jun 2020 19:07

basant wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Click on the link below and read this tweet....

https://twitter.com/Maverick_bharat/sta ... 1511667712

Not just officers and babus but netas also should face inquiry and charges of sedition.

Down to the chaprasi if found to be taking a bribe. GoI needs to pass laws about equating some of this to treason and requiring fast court route with fixed time frame for the verdict. No one is worried about losing or going to jail and that's the problem. Charges don't mean much if there are no verdicts for decades.

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Postby pandyan » 28 Jun 2020 19:51

https://twitter.com/TonboImaging/status/1261180365160370177
two issues: defaulting on payments owed to tonbo and mass cancellation of contracts


"With mass cancellations of key defence procurements, @PMO
india's call for #AatmaNirbharBharat isn't quite starting in the govt corridors. Here's our urgent plea and open letter to @narendramodi
@HMOIndia @DefenceMinIndia @SpokespersonMoD @NorthernComd_IA @makeinindia @minmsme"



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Postby pandyan » 28 Jun 2020 19:54

https://officechai.com/news/defence-tec ... contracts/
the defence departments in charge of dealing with the company have defaulted on the payments due to the company for equipment delivered by them last year. Besides, nonpayment of dues, the government’s decision to cut back on acquisition of defence equipment from indigenous sources has put the immediate survival of the company at stake. “The situation is not only unsettling, but in key contrast of our geographical neighbours equipping street soldiers and extremists with cutting edge military technology”, the letter says.

The CEO pleads for the government to release all the payments owed to the company. “These payments should have been cleared by March end. These are for products delivered in October. Looks like supporting the local companies is only relegated to PM’s speeches” an employee from the company exclusively told OfficeChai.

The letter goes on to urge the government to put its strong endorsement of Indian makers into practice and support the local industry beginning with its own departments. He also requests that the cancelled contracts for procurements from his firm be reconsidered.

Tonbo Imaging was founded by BITS-Pilani alum Lakshmikumar in 2008, and has raised over $29mn across 3 rounds of funding over the last 4 years. It employs over 170 employees located in Bengaluru, Palo Alto, Greece, Poland, and Singapore. Tonbo makes advanced imaging and night-vision systems that are used for military and commercial applications. “In defence, the sights are mounted on tanks, drones, guns and other artillery to allow soldiers to see better at night over long ranges ­ the sophistication they need in modern battlefields.

It’s not hard to understand Lakshmikumar’s plight. The company makes admittedly expensive equipments – 90% of which are supplied to the Indian Defence – and employs highly-specialised engineers spread across four continents. Any delay in payments and an uncertainty in its deliverables can disrupt its cash flows, and cast a shadow of doubt over its imminent future.

To be sure, these are not normal times, and payments and regular rules of business stand disrupted across the board. Moreover, the govt ministries are notorious for their complex and non-transparent inner workings. The government’s well-intentioned appeal to be “vocal for local” may have resonated with millions of people, but it has also prompted those very local industry players to be vocal about their rights, and imploring the powers-that-be to turn the slogans of self-reliance and vocal-for-local into actual practice.

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Postby darshan » 28 Jun 2020 19:55

And dreams of jingos come crashing down. When one can't even sustain existing suppliers with enemy at gates, then how's one going to create MIC?

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Postby csaurabh » 28 Jun 2020 23:08

Let me give you guys some perspective on the so called attempts to build domestic military industrial complex in India that I witnessed first hand.
A year back, we were finalists in the first IDEX (innovations for defense excellence ) startup challenge. Our product was good. We had a good potential for making a niche indigenous technology and were asking for a very small sum. However, it wasn't exactly what the army wanted. Hence we were not selected. (At least this is what I think happened, as they never deigned to actually tell us why we were not selected and entertained no questions ).
At that time, I was unhappy about this turn of events. However I did meet many of the companies there (including Tonbo ) and have kept in touch with some of them who were actually selected.

After the lapse of one year I will gladly admit that I am hugely relieved that we were not selected and tangled up with this stuff. As I had suspected at that time (and can confirm now ), we were indeed being set up to fail. Those who were selected, after a ton of bureaucratic procedures were handed a mere 10% of the money promised as the 'first installment' for developing the product, and the second installment was never approved to my knowledge. What do they care about whether the product is developed or not? Doesn't seem like they do.
As for our company we have now steered clear of defense industry and concentrated our efforts to space sector and civilian manufacturing.

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Postby idan » 28 Jun 2020 23:25

How can HAL decide who will be a joint venture partner for AMCA? I can understand ADA/DRDO the designers for AMCA. It should be a joint policy by MoD and Commerce ministries. Getting PSU involved will lead to indefinite delays!

Let HAL compete to be a production partner if at all they can make it on their own. There seems to be an evil nexus between DRDO and HAL cadre.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/2020/06 ... chief.html

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Postby srai » 29 Jun 2020 07:13

^^^
Don’t know why they are waiting till AMCA to do this? They can start right now with LCA Mk.1/A and MWF in the near future. Volume orders are required though. Can’t do it with token orders of 20 or 40 or 80 units.

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Postby jaysimha » 29 Jun 2020 15:13

DIGITAL SEMINAR AND EXHIBITION ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIGENISATION IN ARMY BASE WORKSHOPS
Mon, Jun 29 2020 To Wed, Jul 01 2020

https://sidm.in/events/details/digital- ... -workshops

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Postby jaysimha » 29 Jun 2020 15:20

Past event,,, Posting for records.. may be later we can see the abstracts

https://kms.gov.in/ngqecon/ngqecon_2020.html
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Postby Armuan » 30 Jun 2020 20:25

An example of how the US protects and retains defense industries and supports domestic production during COVID-19 crisis. Not sure how much lobbying was involved but I admire their prioritization to retain talent. Hoping for a future where we groom a sustainable and vibrant MIC.

Pentagon Awards $185 Million to Shipbuilders, Aerospace Manufacturers
https://www.thomasnet.com/insights/pent ... facturers/

"$55 million each would be allocated to W International and GE Aviation, with another $50 million headed to Austal USA and $25 million to Weber Metals. The funding was authorized under the Defense Production Act as part of a massive COVID-19 relief package enacted in March. “These actions will help to retain critical workforce capabilities throughout the disruption caused by COVID-19 and to restore some jobs lost because of the pandemic,” Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Mike Andrews said in a statement."

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Postby jaysimha » 03 Jul 2020 22:30

CSSPL has collaborated with CAIR DRDO Bangalore for Technology Transfer (TOT) for manufacture of remotely operated wheeled mobile robot, “SEVAK ”, for logistics support in quarantine and isolation wards dealing with Covid-19 patients.
http://comintindia.com/

(Interested parties contact comint@comintindia.com)

http://comintindia.com/pdfs/SEVAK%20Ver6.0%20_Model%20A%20datasheet.pdf

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Postby Mollick.R » 07 Jul 2020 13:25

Recently found about him in social media, Initially i thought, it is a fake article (in past a few such scandals took place with with some fake guys encasing on APJ kalm sir's name on social media). But after digging a little more found its true.

Apologies if posted & discussed earlier in BRF.

Really we have gem of manpower available in desh, only thing is providing them the platform, funding & mentoring.....

From sleeping in a bus stand unable to pay hostel fees to an award-winning Drone scientist - Inspiring story of Pratap in achieving against all odds

Pratap, all of 22, has achieved what many only dream of. Pratap won the 1st prize at a Drone competition in Japan, and Prime Minister Narendra Modi has honoured him with an award and has asked DRDO to absorb him for his inventions in Drone technology.
 
Pratap's accomplishments have been talk of the town and have inspired many youngsters to persevere and achieve their dreams. However, Pratap's path to present success has not been easy and was full of thorns.
 
Humble beginnings
 
Pratap is a native of Netkal village in Malavalli Taluk of Mandya district in Karnataka. He comes from a family of farmers. His father Marimaddaiah was a farmer too and mother Savita, a housewife. Earning a few thousand rupees a month was just enough to feed the family. However, Pratap was enamoured by eagles, helicopters, and other flying objects since his childhood.
 
His inquisitiveness in flying objects created interest in science and electronics. He started to develop small robots and working models from waste materials while at school itself. He won several prizes in school with his science projects.
 
While studying in Pre-university, he acquainted himself with various websites such as Aviation, Space, Rolls Royce cars, Boeing 777, etc. by browsing from a cyber cafe near his house. Though he wished to pursue engineering, his family could not afford the fees, and hence he opted to study BSc in Physics at JSS College, Mysore.
 
Unable to pay hostel fees at the college, he was thrown out of the hostel. For a few days, he was forced to sleep at the Mysore Bus stand and had to wash his clothes in a public toilet. Such experiences did not deter Pratap, and he continued to learn computer languages such as C++, Java and Python on his own. He also learnt about creating Drones through eWaste, and this opened his path to success.
 
Path to success
 
While trying to create his first drone from eWaste, Pratap failed nearly 80 times. But he learnt a lot during his trials and was finally able to develop a drone that was good enough to participate in a contest. He took his drone to a Drone model competition at IIT Delhi. Pratap, who was literally in shabby clothes compared to the other competitors at IIT Delhi, focused on the competition instead. Here he won the 2nd prize after which the organisers urged him to participate in the world-renowned International Drone competition in Japan that was to be held November 27 to December 2, 2017.
 
Going to Japan wasn't a straight forward path. In order to be eligible, his thesis on the drone he was to build had to be approved by as academic Professor at a Chennai college. After gathering the necessary money, Pratap went to Chennai for the first time and with great difficulty was able to get the approval of the Professor. The next challenge was to find funds for his travel to Japan and the related arrangements. Hailing from a humble background, arranging Rs 60000 to go to Japan was a huge task.
 
Luckily, a philanthropist from Mysore sponsored his flight ticket, but he needed more for the entire trip. The rest of the money was arranged by selling his mother's Mangala Sutra. After going through all this, he managed to reach Tokyo in his maiden flight to Japan all alone. When Pratap landed there, he had only Rs 1400 in his pocket. He could not afford the famous Bullet Trains in Japan. He then decided to carry his luggage along with his drone, which together weighed around 360 Kgs in a regular train by paying the extra amount. Some distance he covered by walk to save money as even taxi/cabs were costly. His mother's Mangala Sutra finally enabled him to reach the destination where the competition was to take place.
 
He participated in the Drone competition where participants from 127 nations were present. Pratap showcased and flew his drone, which he called 'Eagle' and mesmerised the audience. However, after the competition, as the results were being announced, there was no mention of his name until the very last. As the top three names were to be announced, Pratap was dejected and started walking back, thinking that he had lost. The judges announced the third prize, then the second and finally the first prize was announced. "Please welcome Mr Pratap, Gold Medalist from India", said the judges and Pratap's joy knew no bounds. 

Pratap's Gold medal at the Drone competition saw Indian tricolour fly above that of USA and Japan. He was rewarded with $10000 as the prize money. His victory at the competition was the beginning of the accolades he was to receive. Coming to know of his struggle and accomplishments, Japanese Nobel laureate Hideki Shirakawa invited him to his home. It was an experience that Pratap cherishes very much. He was congratulated by MLA's and MP's of Karnataka and later by PM Modi who called and congratulated him.
 
In the subsequent days, Pratap participated in competitions in other countries. He won the 'Albert Einstein's Innovation Medal' at the 2018 International Exhibition in Germany. However, once when he was in France, he ran out of money and had no money left for the return flight to India. During his stay, his achievements were recognised by France and his photo had appeared in a local newspaper. The airport staff recognised him, and despite not knowing him in person, they gave him a special treat and booked a seat for him on a business class flight.
 
In service of Motherland
 
Achievements of Pratap have been recognised in several countries like Japan, Germany and France. In each of these countries and elsewhere, he has received offers from government agencies and companies which have offered him millions of rupees, houses and huge perks. But Pratap is very clear that he wishes to work for his Motherland.
 
Former President APJ Abdul Kalam has always inspired Pratap. He says that he grew watching and reading him. It is Kalam who inspired him to work for the nation, says Pratap. It has been reported that PM Modi has suggested that Pratap be absorbed by the DRDO to continue his work and further research in drone technology.
 
The drone developed by Pratap is a technological breakthrough in India. His drone, named 'Eagle', has the technology to detect people at the border instantly. It can be used to ascertain if they are intruders or anyone in danger. He is also working on drones that will benefit the farmers in planning for crops, soil quality, and other parameters. 


https://www.organiser.org/Encyc/2020/7/5/Inspiring-story-of-award-winning-Drone-scientist-Pratap-in-achieving-against-all-odds.html
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Postby Mollick.R » 07 Jul 2020 13:35

Few more on the brilliant guy............//Apologies if posted & discussed earlier in BRF.

This 22-year-old ‘drone scientist’ from Mandya has developed over 600 drones

Read more at: https://yourstory.com/socialstory/2019/ ... 600-drones
This 22-year-old ‘drone scientist’ from Mandya has developed over 600 drones Pratap NM has been invited to over 87 countries to showcase his drones and has worked in over six major projects, including one for defence purposes.

Over the course of the next few years, Pratap built 600 drones all by himself. He has so far completed six major projects that includes Telegraphy in Border Security, Drones in Traffic Management, UAVs in rescuing humans and Auto piloted drones and Cryptography in Drone Networking. Pratap’s drones are saving the lives of tribals in Africa by helping deliver medical support in a short period of time.

Pratap has also been invited to over 87 countries to showcase his different kinds of drones. According to Deccan Herald, Pratap has been the recipient of the Albert Einstein Innovation Gold Medal in the International Drone Expo 2018 held in Hanover in Germany, another gold medal in the International Drone expo in Germany and many others. He was recently invited by IIT Bombay to deliver a lecture on drone applications in emergency situations.

“I use very little money and a lot of e-waste to make my drones. Whenever I win competitions, I am awarded money which I save for the future. And as far as e-waste goes, a lot of it is generated and I get it from electrical shops in Mysuru, Visakhapatnam, Mumbai and a few other cities. For example, if there is a mixer-grinder that is defunct, I can remove the motor and use it in my drone. Similarly, I make use of chips and resistors from broken televisions to build my drones. It doesn't matter what the prototype looks like. Proving the technical points of the drone is all that matters.”

Read more at:
https://yourstory.com/socialstory/2019/12/drone-scientist-karnataka-mandya-600-drones



Young Prathap Has Built Over 600 Drones From E-Waste, Saved Lives And Won Medals For India
Monit Khanna// Updated on Dec 30, 2019, 17:32 IST

He has also been asked to give lectures at IIT Bombay, and IISc to talk about the application of drone tech in a time-sensitive scenario. He is currently working on a project with India’s DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) for drone application in critical national projects.

https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/news/drone-scientist-this-22-year-old-guy-has-created-over-600-drones-from-scratch-using-e-waste-503300.html

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Postby arvin » 07 Jul 2020 14:01

^^Thanks for posting. Truly inspiring. Good to see hardware innovation for a change. Usually it is only app development.

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Postby csaurabh » 07 Jul 2020 18:24

These articles scream of fake news and arrant nonsense. One particularly stupid idea seems to be using a mixer grinder motor to run a drone. Firstly the mixer grinder runs on AC power ( which isn't available on a drone ), and secondly drones use high rpm low weight BLDC motors which the mixer grinder won't have. Using components from e-waste or broken TVs is a similarly dumb idea. It can be done for some of the larger through hole components like capacitor but is virtually impossible for smd components including microcontroller chips. Using jugaad to turn e-waste into drone components makes for a good story, but is a very poor engineering strategy. There is a reason why e-waste is 'waste' after all. Drones contain brushless DC (BLDC) motors, BLDC motor drivers, flight controllers, RF communication gear, IMUs, specialized payloads like small cameras, etc. None of which can be found in e-waste.

I know many people in the drone industry (entrepreneurs and engineers ) and can assure you that it is challenging to even develop a single drone from scratch within a few years, let alone 600. This reminds me of the news about similar whiz kids claimed to be working for NASA and such like and later found to have invented tall tales and photoshopped images, same as Ankit fadia and his 'hacking' nonsense from 15 years ago. Disappointing to see BRF which is tech savvy to be so gullible.

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Postby Karan M » 07 Jul 2020 21:18

Have to agree several details seem off. Plus all the images shown of the gent and his drones seem to show commercial kit based type units. Not hand-made sort of items.

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Postby basant » 07 Jul 2020 22:15

Karan M wrote:Have to agree several details seem off. Plus all the images shown of the gent and his drones seem to show commercial kit based type units. Not hand-made sort of items.

Of course! ACSL is a Japanese company, Autonomous Control Systems Laboratory Ltd. That's the drone he is with in the picture!

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Postby Mollick.R » 08 Jul 2020 01:27

@ csaurabh consider me a party on your skepticism.
In fact , the first post on this subject & very first line of that post itself I have mentioned the same point

Recently found about him in social media, Initially i thought, it is a fake article (in past a few such scandals took place with with some fake guys encasing on APJ kalm sir's name on social media). But after digging a little more found its true.


Boom is fact checker website, Today evening around 6 pm this article was posted on on their website.

A viral message doing the rounds of social media claims that a 21-year-old drone scientist called Prathap has been appointed as a scientist for the Defence Research and Development Organisation by Prime Minister Narendra Modi. BOOM spoke to Prathap, who denied that he was offered a job by the prime minister as a DRDO scientist. Furthermore, Prathap does not have a Master's degree yet, which is a minimum requirement to obtain an entry level job as a scientist at the DRDO. Twitter user Amit Singh Rajawat (@satya_AmitSingh) shared an image of Prathap in a thread with a caption saying, "Interesting story of DRDO Scientist appointed by PM Narendra Modi. He is Pratap aged 21 years. He travels 28 days in a month to foreign countries.France has invited him to join their Organisations for which he will be provided with monthly salary of Rs 16 Lakhs, 5 BHK house, and Car worth 2.5Cr.But he simply declined. PM Modi has honored him with suitable award and has asked DRDO to absorb him." The rest of the thread provided details about the hardships faced by Prathap, and his inspirational journey to becoming a scientist. Click here to view the entire thread.

Fact Check We did a Google search with keywords like "pratap drdo scientist", and came across an article by the Deccan Herald, which spoke of a 22-year drone scientist from a village called Mandya in Karnataka, who provided his drones to the National Disaster Response Force for rescue operations during the floods in Karnataka in August last year. The article carried a picture of the same person whose image is currently going viral.

BOOM reached out to Prathap who claimed that while most of the content of the thread was true, the claim around DRDO absorbing him was not. "I just got a call from New Delhi to meet some people for a project but I am not sure what it is about. Officially I think the prime minister cannot appoint anybody, and I did not get any appointment from him at the DRDO," he said. Prathap also claimed that the rest of the message was true. "I did get an offer from France with the salary and perks as mentioned in the message, but I refused as I wanted to set up a lab in Bengaluru," he said.

BOOM could not independently verify these claims. Prathap currently works for a Bengaluru-based startup called Aerowhale Space and Tech. Furthermore, according to Indian government's Recruitment and Assessment Center, to be recruited into the organisation as a scientist at the entry-level, once must have a First Class Master's degree in Science Subjects, Mathematics or Psychology or First Class Degree in Engineering or Technology or Metallurgy from a recognized University or Equivalent.

Prathap, however, has not yet attained his Master's degree, which he confirmed to us over a phone call. Would he be interested in working for the DRDO once he has the required qualifications? "Yes, definitely," he says. BOOM reached out to DRDO for a comment, and the article will be updated upon getting a response.

Full article here
https://www.boomlive.in/fake-news/did-pm-modi-appoint-drone-wiz-prathap-as-a-drdo-scientist-8778?infinitescroll=1

Take it, as per your own judgement and if you discover any further information, do share it here.

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Postby milindc » 08 Jul 2020 02:19

with monthly salary of Rs 16 Lakhs, 5 BHK house, and Car worth 2.5Cr.


This crap was forwarded last week on various WhatsApp groups. Just reading that one sentence about his offer in France and 5 BHK house made the whole post suspicious. Did research on Google, found many holes in his proclamations. He visits Fair & Expos and claims he won Gold Medals. No Gold Medals were awarded in those fairs. One article claimed, he won 'Albert Einstein Gold Medal in Hanover expo', and obviously that is also fake.

Like others stated earlier, I think we shouldn't be too gullible. Of course the Indian media publishes this crap without any research or due diligence leading to more frenzy around this person. Not one picture of him is with a non-commercial drone (out of 600 he built). And 600, not 631 or 594.. precisely 600 drones.

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Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Postby ramana » 08 Jul 2020 02:47

Guys N^3 wrote a book on low speed Aerodynamics and has guided many PhDs in that area.

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Postby csaurabh » 08 Jul 2020 08:53

Apologies, I did not read the first post. Now I went back and read many other posts. They are hilarious. The dude's imagination is very fertile, and includes saving starving Africans from snakebites!

Not to blame you but you should use some common sense. Manufacturing 600 drones would make his company one of the largest in India, with a big factory and lots of employees. Such a massive operation would be pretty easy to track down , he cannot be some unknown person.

I think this raises a bigger question on credibility of Indian news/media organizations and if they are just this easy to fool. Even the fact checker website raises doubts on the question of whether DRDO hired him or not, rather than on the very dubious technology of making drones out of e-waste.

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Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Postby JayS » 08 Jul 2020 12:00

Wheever I read such fantastic news mynfirst reaction is "its fake", because of n number of such fake stories in the past.

SHQ showed me this news a couple of days back and I told her its probably fake just based on the thing that Modi recommended him to DRDO or something like that. Last year similar news came on some TV channels where some guy in UP claimed to have made ICBM in his house. That news item was such a commedy show. Felt bad for her mother though. He probably was chuna lagaofying his poor uneducated mother. The news channels wanted DRDO to send a team to evaluate his missile when that guy had no idea what he was talking.

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Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Postby amar_p » 08 Jul 2020 14:02

Reminds me of the petrol from plastic lady a few years ago...

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Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Postby Karan M » 08 Jul 2020 16:52

Ok guys lets move on - i think the consensus is, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..

Any news on DRDO programs or other R&D ones?


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