Indian Military Helicopters

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Trikaal » 06 Oct 2018 23:38

ks_sachin wrote:Did you both read Hari Nair sirs post.

No I hadn't. Thanks! All is well then.

Indranil wrote:I was (and am) opposed to the Apache procurement for a similar reason.

Apache is different. We don't have an equivalent substitute in India at the moment. Besides, I think Apaches are being procured to be a part of the strike corps in the Cold Start Doctrine. There is a limitation on no. of men and machines that can be a part of such a corps so they would obviously want the best available and most survivable equipment there. No more from me on this since last time I defended the Apache I ended up with a ban :cry:

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JayS » 07 Oct 2018 18:55

http://www.dgca.nic.in/Type_Acceptance/ ... C&TCDS.pdf

ALH Dhruv's Type certificate by DGCA. Some useful performance numbers there.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Indranil » 07 Oct 2018 19:28

So the civil version is certified with the TM 333, not Shakti.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Austin » 07 Oct 2018 19:30

IIRC Shakti was only for military use hot high performance demands

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Picklu » 09 Oct 2018 01:38

I wish the KA226 goes to Navy. They have twin engine for safety, higher volume cabin for lesser overall space requirement and swappable payload to tailor for SAR, utility, ASW etc.

The IA and IAF should go to LUH.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 12 Oct 2018 01:52

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Meet Sarangs, IAF’s synchrony masters of the skies
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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 16 Oct 2018 23:20

Indian Air Force to induct Chinooks soon: Big push for troop movement, disaster relief capabilities
https://www.financialexpress.com/defenc ... s/1350882/

Indian private sector company Dynamatics is manufacturing parts of the Chinook and the Tata-Boeing joint venture in Hyderabad is manufacturing the complete fuselage of the Apache.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 16 Oct 2018 23:22

Link below does not permit cut-and-paste.

IAF pilots start training to operate Chinook choppers
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 246416.cms

Currently, four pilots and four flight engineers have been training on Chinook choppers at Delaware in the US since Monday.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Aditya_V » 17 Oct 2018 11:58

Rakesh wrote:Indian Air Force to induct Chinooks soon: Big push for troop movement, disaster relief capabilities
https://www.financialexpress.com/defenc ... s/1350882/

Indian private sector company Dynamatics is manufacturing parts of the Chinook and the Tata-Boeing joint venture in Hyderabad is manufacturing the complete fuselage of the Apache.


Per many people declaring a certain % of the Indian population as "bhakts " this is a scam cause

Price is higher than what US paid for Chinooks in 1970 and quoted in an RFP at that time.

Not manufactured by HAL
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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Gagan » 20 Oct 2018 02:52

Looks good!

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 23 Oct 2018 11:11

Link below has pictures. Please click to see them...

https://twitter.com/iaf_mcc/status/1054 ... 35520?s=21 —> Training for Future Inductions: IAF Aircrew commenced training on #Apache helicopters. The Boeing Apache is a twin-turbo shaft attack helicopter with tandem cockpit for 02 crew & a tail wheel-type landing gear arrangement. The helicopter will enhance combat capability of IAF.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby deejay » 23 Oct 2018 20:33

Rakesh wrote:Indian Air Force to induct Chinooks soon: Big push for troop movement, disaster relief capabilities
https://www.financialexpress.com/defenc ... s/1350882/

Indian private sector company Dynamatics is manufacturing parts of the Chinook and the Tata-Boeing joint venture in Hyderabad is manufacturing the complete fuselage of the Apache.

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Hello Admiral, thank you for the photos. Familiar faces.

Regards

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 23 Oct 2018 20:55

sinook looks like a ugly duckling but should prove useful for manpower insertion and ammo resupply. as a air ambulance can be useful as the Mi17.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rishi_Tri » 24 Oct 2018 17:09

deejay wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Indian Air Force to induct Chinooks soon: Big push for troop movement, disaster relief capabilities
https://www.financialexpress.com/defenc ... s/1350882/

Indian private sector company Dynamatics is manufacturing parts of the Chinook and the Tata-Boeing joint venture in Hyderabad is manufacturing the complete fuselage of the Apache.

...


Hello Admiral, thank you for the photos. Familiar faces.

Regards


Can carry upto 300 troops.. :rotfl: I am sure troops shall be literally hanging outside .. Indian bus style .. :D

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby chola » 24 Oct 2018 17:20

Rishi_Tri wrote:
deejay wrote:
Hello Admiral, thank you for the photos. Familiar faces.

Regards


Can carry upto 300 troops.. :rotfl: I am sure troops shall be literally hanging outside .. Indian bus style .. :D



LOL. DDM. Chinook can carry 50 to 60 from the literature I’ve seen. That’s a LOT for a helo.

For 300, you need an large airliner like a Boeing 747.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 18:11

I have been inside a chinook. there is no way it can cart 50 troops with battle gear ... maybe 50 people if packed like sardines with half of them standing up...... 25-30 is more like it.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby ArjunPandit » 24 Oct 2018 18:28

Dint it have an undersling net, I am sure it can adjust 20-30 soldiers in place of the artillery gun. If it can carry 50-60? Did Mi26 carry a regiment?

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby John » 24 Oct 2018 20:02

Perhaps all 15 can carry 300 + supplies.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby abhik » 24 Oct 2018 20:09

Chinook cabin width and height is similar to Mi-17, its a bit longer though (by ~50% ?).

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 21:01

ArjunPandit wrote:Dint it have an undersling net, I am sure it can adjust 20-30 soldiers in place of the artillery gun. If it can carry 50-60? Did Mi26 carry a regiment?


none carry soldiers underslung.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 21:04

there are about 14 seats on each side. a few can sit on floor in dire need....so maybe 55 can cram in ...but normally 30.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Austin » 28 Oct 2018 15:51

should be a logical replacement for our fleet of Mi-8/17 if HAL IMRH does not make any headway and it hasent since a decade now.

Meet the Mi-38VeryVIP

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Kartik » 28 Oct 2018 23:47

We don’t have any Mi-8s anymore Austin. They were retired from service.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby souravB » 29 Oct 2018 00:40

IMO we shouldn't even be looking at something that we can/are building ourselves.
rather we should be looking at V-22 Osprey if we want to buy from outside in this category. Provides futureproofing and tactical advantages.
There was some news in 2015 and again on this year August that we are in talk with unkil to buy some for special forces and VVIPs. Boeing also has given technical presentation to Navy and CG long back. anybody's chaiwallah or panwallah has any update on that? or is it dead in the water?

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby manoj_niketa » 02 Nov 2018 01:04

Any News on LCH?

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 06 Nov 2018 08:57

https://twitter.com/indiandefence11/sta ... 1812696064 ----> Indian Air Force Mi-35 "Hind-E" Attack Helicopter. It underwent the Israeli Mission 24 Upgrade Package which added a Helicopter Multi-mission Optronic Stabilised Payload (HMOSP) integrating the 9K114 Shturm-V and Self-defence equipment to the veteran gunship.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Kakarat » 09 Nov 2018 12:15

It always feels good to see Ministers use Dhruv as their transport

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JTull » 09 Nov 2018 19:29

manoj_niketa wrote:Any News on LCH?


My guess is that lot of the news on various HAL projects is being held back for AI-19. We rarely hear about LCH, LUH, HTT-40 (exception on spin test today), IJT.


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