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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby putnanja » 17 Jan 2019 12:10

HAL's Light Combat Helicopter completes weapon trials

The Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) indigenously designed and developed by HAL has successfully carried out air to air missile firing on a moving aerial target. During the tests conducted in integrated test range at Chandipur, Odisha recently, the test pilots executed a flawless mission and achieved a direct hit on the aerial target, destroying it completely.

"This is the first time in the country that a helicopter has carried out air to air missile engagement. None of the helicopters with the military services in the country has demonstrated such a capability. With this, LCH has successfully completed all weapon integration tests and is ready for operational induction", said CMD, HAL, R Madhavan.

Other weapons on LCH include a 20mm Turret gun and 70 mm Rockets, the firing trials of which have already been completed last year.
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Equipped with a helmet mounted sight and a forward looking infrared sighting system, LCH pilots can now detect and destroy any target on ground or in the air. Using these sights, pilots can now launch a missile onto any target without having to turn the helicopter. The fire and forget missile is effective against all types of aerial threat, including UAVs and microlight aircraft. It is also capable of operating from dispersed locations and flying at ultra low levels.
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The DAC has accorded approval for procurement of initial batch of 15 LCHs (10 for IAF and 5 for Army).

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 17 Jan 2019 12:32

chalo ek aur milestone. the DAC needs to approve large volume orders instead of waffling with 15 penny packet orders.
why not 120 for IA spread across 4 tranches with capability insertion points in each tranche. thats how the big boys work.
nobody in gods world wants tranche3 capabilities in one shot or else they wont pay - except us :lol:

100 in ladakh and 100 in sikkim + tawang would be a good calling card and chetawani

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby shaun » 17 Jan 2019 13:26

Is it Mistral , they have fired ??

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby nam » 17 Jan 2019 13:29

Can't wait for LCH to get inducted.

LCH sneaking behind mountain peaks on LAC and popping up SANT to hit at 15km....while Chinis Z10 cannot fly in Tibet.

Chinis can ride on their light tank as much they want..
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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Bala Vignesh » 17 Jan 2019 13:30

shaun wrote:Is it Mistral , they have fired ??

Yeah it's the Mistral.

Has HeliNa been integrated as well??
The article mentions that all weapons integration is complete?

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby nam » 17 Jan 2019 13:31

Helina is integrated with Rudra, so that should not be a major problem.

Issue is Helina is not done development yet. There might be French ATGM coming in until Helina & SANT are done.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Lalmohan » 17 Jan 2019 15:13

abhik wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:^^^ that's because there have been very few wars where both sides had helicopters and were using them in offensive combat roles

There are a few examples like Gulf war -1, with 6 cases involving helicopters:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engag ... e_Gulf_War


this is quite an interesting read. tells me that the Iraqis put up a decent fight in the face of overwhelming odds. the helicopter shoot downs seem to be fighters using radar homing missiles against transport choppers. suggests that they were perhaps not flying lo-lo, etc. I didn't spot any apache vs hind type of engagements, which is what we are really discussing here

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Thakur_B » 17 Jan 2019 16:57

nam wrote:
Issue is Helina is not done development yet. There might be French ATGM coming in until Helina & SANT are done.


PARS-3 or Spike, neither seem to be in contention anymore. Helina seems pretty close to clearing final hurdles, so the aircraft may have to wait for FOC till Helina is good to go.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby nam » 17 Jan 2019 17:04

Thakur_B wrote:
nam wrote:
Issue is Helina is not done development yet. There might be French ATGM coming in until Helina & SANT are done.


PARS-3 or Spike, neither seem to be in contention anymore. Helina seems pretty close to clearing final hurdles, so the aircraft may have to wait for FOC till Helina is good to go.


IA Chief in the press conference mentioned that there were changes required and DRDO will let IA know when it can be done, by March. Meanwhile they might go with limited imports.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby abhik » 18 Jan 2019 00:44

They have been trying to do a "limited import" of (heli)nag alternative for close to a decade, you can take a guess how this will end up.
Most of our procurement programs take at least 10-15 years to fructify, I would have thought that the powers that be would have internalized this fact and realize that it's better to grit your teeth for a few years rather than go on a fools errand (import RFP).

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby deejay » 18 Jan 2019 11:20

JayS wrote:
Singha wrote:why cannot anti-heli ops be done by fighters which have far superior radar , a LDP and lookdown modes.

apaches with stinger and rudra / lch with mistals will have no guidance radar and just need to orient the seeker and fire LOBL right?
these i would suggest are more defensive shots than offensive hunting. with their lack of speed and height they have no chance of catching a fighter unless its head on.

presence of roving fighters will make life very damgerous for helis. esp light hawk type fighters with a good gun also. if a diving attack from above helis have no real defences


I suppose the context is only limited to how to utilize the Apaches. IAF is free to do use Fighters when they are called to sanitize airspace of enemy helis. But since Army is not a stake holder per say when it comes to Fighters they would differ that call to IAF completely.

Deejay saar, if you are reading this, can you throw some light on this..?


I know of a few excersises gaming fighter vs helicopters. TACDE is a master in coming up with new games.

It is not a given that a fighter will get a kill if it's going against a helicopter. A low and slow helicopter will just keep turning into the fighter to avoid a lock or go below tree line.

That said, a helicopter is just terrible at taking on a fighters unless some "genius" is in the fighter cockpit.

Add to this, we have limited resources for air assets and there are adequate radar covers looking for movement from both sides. Helicopters won't go high, and fighter's which come low will never see the low flying helicopter until they are right on it. By the time a fighter, at "fighter" speeds, does a turn and comes back, the helicopter will have found a boulder to duck behind.

Why really go to such asymmetric platform match with heavy costs and low success probabilities? However, fighters can always keep a lookout for helicopter targets of opportunity. Spot 'em, shoot 'em.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby ramana » 18 Jan 2019 11:28

AAM on helicopters is to take out opposing helicopters in a battlefield.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Aditya_V » 18 Jan 2019 11:54

And UAV's/ UCAV realistically. In warfare there will always be an exception the odd transport aircraft, reconnaissance biplane or even the odd fighter could go down.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Mollick.R » 18 Jan 2019 13:17

Looming crisis: Lack of HAL blades for choppers likely to haunt army in Siachen

BY MANU PUBBY, ET BUREAU | UPDATED: JAN 18, 2019, 11.58 AM IST
New Delhi: The air force has warned of a crisis looming on the troops at the world’s
highest battleground, Siachen Glacier, as Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) fails to
manufacture the rotor blades critical for its light helicopters.
The soldiers deployed at an altitude above 20,000 feet depend heavily on the hardy fleet
of Cheetah and Cheetal choppers for missions like casualty evacuation and critical
supplies. The French-origin light choppers are now manufactured by the state-owned HAL. The
specialised rotors blades give them adequate lift for operating at those punishing altitudes
in unpredictable weather. HAL started making the Cheetah choppers in India in 1972. The
air force expressed deep concern on the future of the ageing Cheetah fleet as well as its
order for 10 Cheetal helicopters after HAL failed to produce the 85-series main rotor
blades after their French parent stopped making the blades in 2012.
The defence ministry was informed late last year that the 12 blades HAL had
manufactured with transfer of technology from the original manufacturer Airbus
Helicopters showed high level of vibration and were rendered unsuitable.
The aircraft manufacturer is now down to its last few lots of rotor blades that were ordered before 2012, questioning their ability to support the helicopters in service. The availability of the fleet could come down if replacements
are not in place, the air force informed. The air force is also concerned that its September 2015 order for 10 Cheetal helicopters will be impacted because of the non-availability of the 85-series blades. The helicopters were to be delivered last year as per the original schedule. The worries of the air force were compounded by the fact that a larger plan to replace the ageing fleet with the Russian-made Kamov Ka 226 helicopters has not taken off yet.



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/looming-crisis-lack-of-hal-blades-for-choppers-likely-to-haunt-army-in-siachen/printarticle/67581540.cms

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby kit » 18 Jan 2019 13:25

deejay wrote:
I know of a few excersises gaming fighter vs helicopters. TACDE is a master in coming up with new games.

It is not a given that a fighter will get a kill if it's going against a helicopter. A low and slow helicopter will just keep turning into the fighter to avoid a lock or go below tree line.

That said, a helicopter is just terrible at taking on a fighters unless some "genius" is in the fighter cockpit.

Why really go to such asymmetric platform match with heavy costs and low success probabilities? However, fighters can always keep a lookout for helicopter targets of opportunity. Spot 'em, shoot 'em.


Good platform to take on armed UAVs ...
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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JayS » 18 Jan 2019 18:09

prashantsharma wrote:I agree with the COAS' views... Whether deployed in the anti-helicopter role or the anti-armour role, the bulk, if not all, of the Apaches should ideally be with the Army. The paki cobras and hinds will be out there harassing Indian troops and armour. Isn't it better to give the Indian Army the resources in the form of the Apaches (or Rudras, let them decide which is better suited to which role) to deal with the paki threat.. so much simpler than asking the army to route mission requests and all that up the chain of command to the IAF, them having a say on it, squabbling and finger pointing blah blah...
In the past, there were good reasons for placing the Mi-25/35s with the IAF. The situation is considerably different now and the army air corps is sufficiently experienced to operate these complex helicopters.


Please understand, this is not about who commands and controls them - but what is the deployment based on the role. It has been made amply clear by authoritative posters like deejay multiple times that all helis will be under Army command one way or the other. So lets not convert this unnecessarily into a turf war scenario. As per my understanding, IAF offcrs are embedded within the Army command for Heli operations. Army doesn't need to ring the Air HQ for support every time.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JayS » 18 Jan 2019 18:14

deejay wrote:I know of a few excersises gaming fighter vs helicopters. TACDE is a master in coming up with new games.

It is not a given that a fighter will get a kill if it's going against a helicopter. A low and slow helicopter will just keep turning into the fighter to avoid a lock or go below tree line.

That said, a helicopter is just terrible at taking on a fighters unless some "genius" is in the fighter cockpit.

Add to this, we have limited resources for air assets and there are adequate radar covers looking for movement from both sides. Helicopters won't go high, and fighter's which come low will never see the low flying helicopter until they are right on it. By the time a fighter, at "fighter" speeds, does a turn and comes back, the helicopter will have found a boulder to duck behind.

Why really go to such asymmetric platform match with heavy costs and low success probabilities? However, fighters can always keep a lookout for helicopter targets of opportunity. Spot 'em, shoot 'em.


Saar, any comments on Rudra vs Apache for anti-heli ops would be appreciated. Also where would LCH fit in this..?

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby ks_sachin » 18 Jan 2019 19:20

Jay
I have been thinking of this. Question is under what scenario will heptr v heptr happen.

Regards

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Indranil » 18 Jan 2019 20:02

HAL successfully test-fires air-to-air missile from Light Combat Helicopter
New part.
The LCH obtained “initial operational certification” (IOC) in August 2017. The army has committed to ordering 114 LCHs and the air force 65 – totally 179 helicopters. But, so far, the ministry of defence (MoD) has so far only approved the building of 15 “limited series production” LCHs for about Rs 3,500 crore.

On a visit to HAL’s helicopter complex in Bengaluru, Business Standard found that HAL had already begun building the 15 LCHs cleared for production, even though the army and IAF were still to place orders. HAL executives said they are aiming for a production rate of 18-20 helicopters per year.

The LCH, with its Rs 231 crore price tag, is the most heavily armed and expensive of HAL’s successful helicopter lines. The Rudra, or weaponised Dhruv costs about half of that, while the Dhruv is currently priced at about Rs 70 crore each.

At current prices, the cost of building all 179 LCHs would add up to over Rs 40,000 crore and necessitate the building of a new assembly line in Bengaluru or Tumkur.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JayS » 18 Jan 2019 20:19

ks_sachin wrote:Jay
I have been thinking of this. Question is under what scenario will heptr v heptr happen.

Regards


I am not that well informed about the Heli warfare/tactics part. so cant answer. But clearly IA/IAF thinks its real threat, they only differ on which asset to deploy for it.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby JayS » 18 Jan 2019 20:23

Indranil wrote:HAL successfully test-fires air-to-air missile from Light Combat Helicopter
New part.
The LCH obtained “initial operational certification” (IOC) in August 2017. The army has committed to ordering 114 LCHs and the air force 65 – totally 179 helicopters. But, so far, the ministry of defence (MoD) has so far only approved the building of 15 “limited series production” LCHs for about Rs 3,500 crore.

On a visit to HAL’s helicopter complex in Bengaluru, Business Standard found that HAL had already begun building the 15 LCHs cleared for production, even though the army and IAF were still to place orders. HAL executives said they are aiming for a production rate of 18-20 helicopters per year.

The LCH, with its Rs 231 crore price tag, is the most heavily armed and expensive of HAL’s successful helicopter lines. The Rudra, or weaponised Dhruv costs about half of that, while the Dhruv is currently priced at about Rs 70 crore each.

At current prices, the cost of building all 179 LCHs would add up to over Rs 40,000 crore and necessitate the building of a new assembly line in Bengaluru or Tumkur.


Juicy tidbits. with 20 LCH per year it would take more than a decade for entire order. I think HAL should hike the rate to 35-40 peak rate and being the total build time to ~8 years total including ramp up/down. They can clearly sustain larger facility with higher rates given much broad spectrum capability across multiple platforms and decent eco-system in heli mfg spread across multiple programs and in Helicopter sector and much better export prospectus for HAL relatively speaking given its relatively higher maturity on that front.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Zynda » 18 Jan 2019 20:42

I'd think a time frame around 3-5 years for HAL to do a major improvement/tranche change on such a product. I'd think a sustained decent prod rate around 25 would give HAL chance to bring out later batches in an improved tranche...incorporating feedback from forces based on operating experience.

I also hope that there is a road map for improving Dhruv beyond incorporating advanced avionics...hoping for some airframe weight optimization, perhaps improved engine, increased action radius among major ones. Its been almost 18 years since the product had induction.

Having said the above, I also do realize that HAL has constraints on manpower allocation & probably cannot allot sizable engineering teams for multiple projects.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby ArjunPandit » 18 Jan 2019 21:14

FWIW, Mihir or Sjha mentioned on twitter that a missile is a better option for shooting drone as the high velocity and farther from target

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby nam » 18 Jan 2019 21:55

Rudra is half the price of LCH?

The weapon type,number of engine, majority of the avonics are similar. LCH might be able to carry 4 more ? ATGM. Higher speed due to the shape. But then I don't think the cost includes weapons.

What adds to the cost of LCH? Low rate of production? May be it is the cost of prototypes.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby John » 18 Jan 2019 22:02

nam wrote:Rudra is half the price of LCH?

The weapon type,number of engine, majority of the avonics are similar. LCH might be able to carry 4 more ? ATGM. Higher speed due to the shape. But then I don't think the cost includes weapons.

What adds to the cost of LCH? Low rate of production? May be it is the cost of prototypes.

Composites, Radar absorbing paint, infrared suppressor all might add to that cost. I believe overall cost of program and development cost might not have contributed to that big of price increase since even the 179 order is price about the same nor do i think it includes cost for new assembly line.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby nam » 18 Jan 2019 22:11

I have a feeling IA will hold the LCH to the cost and go for more Rudra. You are technically getting double the numbers with some inferior capability, however still with rockets, AAM,, FLIR & ATGM.

2 Rudra will have more loadout over 1 LCH, nor can it be on two places at the same time.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby VKumar » 18 Jan 2019 23:06

ks_sachin wrote:Jay
I have been thinking of this. Question is under what scenario will heptr v heptr happen.

Regards

In URI movie! :rotfl:

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby John » 18 Jan 2019 23:24

nam wrote:I have a feeling IA will hold the LCH to the cost and go for more Rudra. You are technically getting double the numbers with some inferior capability, however still with rockets, AAM,, FLIR & ATGM.

2 Rudra will have more loadout over 1 LCH, nor can it be on two places at the same time.

Actually i misread the news piece the author was speculating the cost for larger order of 179 so price might possibly go down with larger order assuming significantly more $$ is not needed for new assembly line.

One highlight is current cost is actually cheaper than T129 which Pakistan found to be far superior to Z-10 (reportedly Turkey came to matching China's price and Turkey heavily subsidized it).

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Indranil » 18 Jan 2019 23:39

Subsequent costs may be lower due to economies of scale and amortization of development costs. There is no reason why LCH should cost twice of Rudra.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rishi_Tri » 19 Jan 2019 00:12

https://twitter.com/HALHQBLR/status/1085776688892407809 ---> First time in the country, LCH achieves a unique milestone by successfully carrying out air to air missile firing on a moving aerial target completing all weapon trials.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby prashantsharma » 19 Jan 2019 14:24

Please help me understand what exactly does "...but what is the deployment based on the role" mean? Also,
1. What exactly is the benefit of keeping them under the IAF vis-a-vis the Army other than historical legacy?
2. Extending the logic, should all choppers be under the IAF? ( Or something like a Joint Command?)
3. Has the unit ever been commanded by an Army officer?
4. What is the benefit of twin / dotted line reporting ?
5. Does any significant military power place Apaches under the airforce (with the notable exception of Israel / IDF where all air assets are under the air force or something like a joint command; and I think Egypt).
I am not making a case for a turf war, I just want to keep things simple, fast and direct. It helps during a war.


JayS wrote:
prashantsharma wrote:I agree with the COAS' views... Whether deployed in the anti-helicopter role or the anti-armour role, the bulk, if not all, of the Apaches should ideally be with the Army. The paki cobras and hinds will be out there harassing Indian troops and armour. Isn't it better to give the Indian Army the resources in the form of the Apaches (or Rudras, let them decide which is better suited to which role) to deal with the paki threat.. so much simpler than asking the army to route mission requests and all that up the chain of command to the IAF, them having a say on it, squabbling and finger pointing blah blah...
In the past, there were good reasons for placing the Mi-25/35s with the IAF. The situation is considerably different now and the army air corps is sufficiently experienced to operate these complex helicopters.


Please understand, this is not about who commands and controls them - but what is the deployment based on the role. It has been made amply clear by authoritative posters like deejay multiple times that all helis will be under Army command one way or the other. So lets not convert this unnecessarily into a turf war scenario. As per my understanding, IAF offcrs are embedded within the Army command for Heli operations. Army doesn't need to ring the Air HQ for support every time.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby deejay » 19 Jan 2019 23:49

JayS wrote:
deejay wrote:I know of a few excersises gaming fighter vs helicopters. TACDE is a master in coming up with new games.

It is not a given that a fighter will get a kill if it's going against a helicopter. A low and slow helicopter will just keep turning into the fighter to avoid a lock or go below tree line.

That said, a helicopter is just terrible at taking on a fighters unless some "genius" is in the fighter cockpit.

Add to this, we have limited resources for air assets and there are adequate radar covers looking for movement from both sides. Helicopters won't go high, and fighter's which come low will never see the low flying helicopter until they are right on it. By the time a fighter, at "fighter" speeds, does a turn and comes back, the helicopter will have found a boulder to duck behind.

Why really go to such asymmetric platform match with heavy costs and low success probabilities? However, fighters can always keep a lookout for helicopter targets of opportunity. Spot 'em, shoot 'em.


Saar, any comments on Rudra vs Apache for anti-heli ops would be appreciated. Also where would LCH fit in this..?


There is no Rudra vs Apache as far as I know. Army deploys assets based on theaters, so no cross deployment. I understand that Apache will be embeded with the "tip of the spear" part of strike corps and that is where they will be used. They will form part of armed escorts to helicopter insertions in DEAD, SEAD, etc,etc.

Rudra's will also form part of similar packages with other parts of the IA deployments.

LCH for me is formidable in low profile, higher speed, greater manoeuvrability and high altitude performance. Those who do not know, TACDE runs a Helicopter Combat Leader (HCL) course and the war fighting tactics for helicopters are highly evolved. These guys are going to thrash out a lot of new things with new platforms. Let's just say that in the mountains our helicopter combat resources are unmatched. Next time someone has a concrete Sanghar on a mountain top (Kargil), we won't send in Mi 17's.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby kit » 19 Jan 2019 23:55

out of curiosity , would the Apaches be able to hand off targeting data to the LCH ? .. would be an exponential capability enhancement for the LCH

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby deejay » 20 Jan 2019 00:15

kit wrote:out of curiosity , would the Apaches be able to hand off targeting data to the LCH ? .. would be an exponential capability enhancement for the LCH


Please look for information available (if any) in public domain.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Singha » 20 Jan 2019 11:49

Apache only support link16 module which we dont use

Iaf fighter fdl i dont know where it went. Was supposed to be our link16ski fleetwide radio modem and data distrib

Must have been shelved at some point

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rakesh » 03 Feb 2019 00:44

For avid serial number watchers, note that serial number! ZL-4674.

https://twitter.com/danvir_chauhan/stat ... 3852102658 ---> First Boeing CH-47F Chinook transferred to the Indian Air Force in Philadelphia.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Mollick.R » 03 Feb 2019 01:00

Sir
Any thing special (some background story etc) about this tail no (ZL-4674) ???
A quick run to Google chacha gives only two mention worthy results
1. Some Shaheed Express (From Amritsar to Jayanagar)
2 Windows Security Log Id 4674: An operation was attempted on a privileged object.

Plz tell

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby VinodTK » 03 Feb 2019 01:24

^^^
Boost for armed forces as 1st Chinook helicopter handed over to India
New ELHI: India has officially been handed over first of the Chinook helicopters at Boeing's facility in the presence of Indian ambassador to US Harsh Shringla. The ‘India-Chinook Transfer Ceremony’ took place at Boeing's facility in Philadelphia.

DGAO, Air Marshal A Dev, from Air HQ (Vayu Bhawan), Consul General of India in New York Sandeep Chakravorty and Air Attache Air Cmde Shivanand were also present during the occasion.

According to the Indian mission in US, during his address, Ambassador Shringla lauded the "growing industry partnerships between India and US & commended Boeing for their commitment for the commitment to make in India."

In 2015, India had placed the order for 22 AH-64E Apache attack, and 15 CH-47F(I) Chinook transport helicopters and will receive all of them this year.

The AH-64E Apache attack and CH-47F(I) Chinook transport helicopters are the newest models of the aircraft. This is expected to help modernize the Indian Air Force’s helicopter fleet.

According to Boeing, Apache is the world’s leading multi-role attack helicopter and CH-47F Chinook is an advanced multi-mission helicopter that can help in delivering heavy payloads at high altitudes. Both of them are also being used by the US army.

CH-47F Chinook is also being used by 18 other defence forces around the world. Large sections of the Chinook fuselage are being manufactured in India.

Boeing is also training Indian Air Force (IAF) crew for the helicopter. In October of 2018, 4 pilots and 4 flight engineers of IAF were trained for operating Chinook helicopters in Delaware USA.

India is the 14th nation to use Apache and 19th nation to use Chinook in its forces.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby Rishi_Tri » 04 Feb 2019 21:20

https://www.janes.com/article/86134/ind ... inook-helo

India receives first Chinook helo
Gareth Jennings, London - Jane's Defence Weekly
04 February 2019

India has received the first of 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters during a ceremony at the manufacturer's production facility in Philadelphia.

The event on 1 February marked the commencement of deliveries to the Indian Air Force (IAF) that are set to run through to 2023. With this first helicopter having been formally accepted in the US, the IAF's Chinooks are expected to be shipped to Mundra Port on India's west coast in March before being flown to their future operational base at Chandigarh in the far north of the country.

India signed its government-to-government deal with the US in September 2015, with the USD1.1 billion contract covering 15 Chinooks plus the option for a further seven.

Once operational, the Chinooks will replace the three Mil Mi-26 'Halo' heavy-lift helicopters that the IAF received from the then-Soviet Union in 1986. While the Mi-26 can lift heavier loads than the Chinook, the latter helicopter has more of a multirole capability and should boost the IAF's overall rotary-lift capabilities while enhancing its capacity to assist in domestic and regional humanitarian assistance and disaster relief missions.

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Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Feb 2019 16:14

^^how will chinook come to India? a ride on Some USN AC or some other ship


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