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seem the Maj Gen is the seniormost serving Dogra regiment officer.

gaurav sawant: SS=self styled
Top Int sources: mixed camp of Manipul PLA & KYKL hit. 20+ killed, 30+ injured. Weapons+documents recovered. 1 SS major killed so far

GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant 13 hrs13 hours ago
15 NSCN (K) chaps killed (weapons recovered) in trans-border hot pursuit by commandos of 21 Para Special Forces in 2 quick surgical strikes
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You're right about the initial announcement, JEM, Col Rathore just followed up with a series of cliches (however misleading re:the other border) guaranteed to appeal to jingos, as you can see here.

But your complaint appears to be that the Indian Express is interrupting narrative with facts. I think facts should count more, don't you?
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Why releasing pics of the men involved in this operation? Isn't this puts the families of these guys in line of danger? We are dealing with worst kind of scums here, they will try to target the families of men in kaluchak type incident.
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Nitesh wrote:Why releasing pics of the men involved in this operation? Isn't this puts the families of these guys in line of danger? We are dealing with worst kind of scums here, they will try to target the families of men in kaluchak type incident.
In theory that is a risk, but harder in practice. Plus, in these social media days troops like to get credit for even covert actions, as you can see from the SEAL Team 6 books/interviews and selfies of Spetsnaz troops in action in Ukraine even though Russia denies involvement.

AFAIK this pic was not officially released, but not 100% sure.
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http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/myanmar- ... ike-770318
Myanmar Covert Operation: The Inside Story of the Surgical Strike
The Indian Army's para commandos struck two camps of militants and "inflicted significant casualties." The two camps are estimated to have had a total of about 150 militants and both were liquidated. Casualties have been pegged at at least 50, but could be higher, even as much as 100 or more, said sources, even if militants escaped.

The operation, the sources said, began in the dark at 3 am on Tuesday and was declared over officially only in the afternoon, after mopping up. Minutes before ops began, India sent a communique to the Myanmar Army, they said.

The Indian ambassador met a minister in the Myanmar government after office hours began and the operation was well underway by then, the sources said, emphasising that this was a solo operation by the Indian Army aided by the Indian Air force, not just on the ground, but also in the planning.

India has a treaty with Myanmar from the 1990s on operations across the border.
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In my view, just name of unit might have been good, so bad guys before taking up any hit operation against army, will know the big daddy will come and kick them. Pictures of actual guys, hmmm little risky, specially after amymen's families have been hit previously
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sanjaykumar wrote:One of the first pics of the special forces team which took part in the cross border raid in Myanmar.
@IndianExpress



Ho Ho, they look like they are from all over India. That's as important as, to use an Americanism, justice.
Especially love those Pragjyotishi faces.
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There is lot of ambiguity now, not sure whether it was Mi-17 or Dhruv or Mi-25/35 , some article says it used 12.7 mm guns but I believe the guns in Mi-25/35 was upgraded to 30 mm canons . Hopefully we will get more clarity in future. But never the less, it was a great operation, good job to 21st Para, Airforce , Doval and Politicians.
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Nitesh wrote:Why releasing pics of the men involved in this operation? Isn't this puts the families of these guys in line of danger? We are dealing with worst kind of scums here, they will try to target the families of men in kaluchak type incident.

very foolish, if done officially or very devious if deliberately done for nefarious purposes
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Amitabh wrote: In theory that is a risk, but harder in practice. Plus, in these social media days troops like to get credit for even covert actions, as you can see from the SEAL Team 6 books/interviews and selfies of Spetsnaz troops in action in Ukraine even though Russia denies involvement.

AFAIK this pic was not officially released, but not 100% sure.
well, at least it will prevent our DDM from throwing all sorts of nonsense in the name of "asking questions"...

like, how do we know indian troops were involved, how can we be sure that hindu males were not there..i am just asking questions..or something utterly utterly idiotic like that.
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JE Menon wrote:>>is it Bharat's SEAL 6

No, as mentioned through the thread, it's 21 Para. Please start to think this way.
I think the question is more fundamental than simply the name of the organization.

You see, Americans have a two tier set-up when it comes to their special forces. Tier 2 consists of dedicated special forces of each arm - Green Berets and Rangers (to some extent) of the US Army, SEAL of US Navy and Recon-marines of US Marines.

On top to it, you have the Tier 1 structure - DELTA FORCE and SEAL Team 6. Both these are under direct command of Joint Special Operations Command aka JSOC. While DELTA takes men from army, most are from either Ranger Regiment or Green Beret. Same for SEAL TEAM 6.

DELTA Force and SEAL Team 6 were thought up post the Iran hostage rescue fiasco. And were supposed to be 'elite of the elite'...a very small band of highly trained operatives meant for most difficult of tasks.

Now, to answer the question raised, India does not have such tier based structure. At least, not officially. Parachute Regiment's Para (Special Forces) battalions are the prime special operations forces of the army. And 21 Para (SF) is one such battalion based out of Jorhat, Assam which under-took this operation.

Coming to the Tier 1 SF (of sorts) in India, well, you have the Special Group (SG). It takes volunteers from IA with most men being from Para and Para (SF). And everyone needs to complete their probation. But it comes under Cabinet Secretariat and not under operational control of the army.
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Another silent factor here is the Human Intel capabilities..such pin point accuracy...zero casualties! just wow!!
Time for Lungi dance & lot of cross border salwar shivers!
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Twitteratti are saying that the image is not of the said ops. Praveen Swami has posted this pic in IE NP and people are circulating freely.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... or-strike/
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I think SG should move away from conventional mil ops and more into mossad/shinbet kind of joint ops in our peripheral regions in conjunction with RAW. coming under PMO directly gives it good opsec vs being part of the general IA pool. just delist it off the roster and make it dark and off-grid.

in soviet union yuri andropov then head of the KGB setup "vympel" unit...usually staffed with officers fluent in foreign languages, exposures, not just gun fighting skills but worldly wise..able to a meek oily haired IT consultant by day, going around slitting some 'bhais' throat at night...or a well travelled importer exporter types. we need to develop front cos, safe houses, informers, paid police officials, hacking exploits, means of infil and exfil, transport cos all around our rim nations.

we need to setup shop all around our peripheral states and make people pay. for too long have the bhais and revolutionary leaders lead lives of safety while killing indians here.

if israel could hunt down pretty much all of the "munich" killers even in hostile areas like lebanon, we should be able to tag and bodybag a few of the medium level scum atleast.
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Regarding IE article on previous such operations:

While there have been similar ops previously too and it's good to remember them, this operation has been unique in a few ways as the article itself notes. IA has unilaterally conducted an operation across the border in response to an attack with in a short span of time. I don't see the point in saying "Look ma, there have been similar ops before. Not the first time". This is like saying India has won wars previously too after 1971 victory. Some people simply can't digest the fact that a good thing happened under Modi's leadership. Critics should stop nitpicking and focus on genuine criticism of Govt. Give credit where it's due. There was a big political risk involved. I am sure it was not an easy decision.
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DELTA Force and SEAL Team 6 were thought up post the Iran hostage rescue fiasco. And were supposed to be 'elite of the elite'...a very small band of highly trained operatives meant for most difficult of tasks.
Sorry OT but just nitpicking here. SFOF-D and ST6 existed before The Iran Hostage Op. The Botched Op was due to Poor Co-ordination between Agencies and Poor Pilots. Out of this fiasco 2 Things were born:

1. SOCOM
2. 160th SOAR

Both in my view Absolutely CRITICAL to building a full fledged SpecOps capability.

The Tiering System evolved due to threat evolution of the US, in the 80s it was still the cold war and hence Conventional SF got a bulk of Attention. Post that Terrorism became the new buzz word and Tier I was born - 2 units that was deployed 24/7 around the world to only take Covert Hostile action against active terrorist that the US was not technically at war with. The Other Seal Teams still train for threats against Russia and North Korea and China etc.

The Tier I however still do 'Vanilla' Direct Action/Intel type ops but at a blistering tempo and by thus default of that get to pick their shooters from the already elite (business is good so demand is high).. -> Hence Tier I
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Charlie Beckwith the founder of Delta got shafted out by being made a scapegoat for Op. Eagle Claw. He didn't even know what hit him.
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Even if this kind of operation was conducted in the past, what makes the current operation stand out is its context and timing. Never in the past have India so swiftly responded to an attack on its soldiers and that too by crossing borders. This was not an exercise which could be planned in coordination with foreign militaries & govts taking its own sweet time as some babu found it fit. This was swift and effective response to an attack. The message is loud and clear. If someone cannot digest Modi getting the well deserved accolades they can eat hajmola and run to nearest pakistan.
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Singha wrote:I think SG should move away from conventional mil ops and more into mossad/shinbet kind of joint ops in our peripheral regions in conjunction with RAW. coming under PMO directly gives it good opsec vs being part of the general IA pool. just delist it off the roster and make it dark and off-grid.

in soviet union yuri andropov then head of the KGB setup "vympel" unit...usually staffed with officers fluent in foreign languages, exposures, not just gun fighting skills but worldly wise..able to a meek oily haired IT consultant by day, going around slitting some 'bhais' throat at night...or a well travelled importer exporter types. we need to develop front cos, safe houses, informers, paid police officials, hacking exploits, means of infil and exfil, transport cos all around our rim nations.

we need to setup shop all around our peripheral states and make people pay. for too long have the bhais and revolutionary leaders lead lives of safety while killing indians here.

if israel could hunt down pretty much all of the "munich" killers even in hostile areas like lebanon, we should be able to tag and bodybag a few of the medium level scum atleast.
As i had said when the "baby" movie had come out ( with a PM who somehow looks like NaMo), i am sure that the baby scenario will be played out in a few cases over the 5 years.

Am sure the SG folks are being primed for some hunting of their own.
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Feeling proud. Kudos to our soldiers for delivering solid punch. Government of the day has shown great resolve. 56" inches indeed it is.
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The Tier I however still do 'Vanilla' Direct Action/Intel type ops but at a blistering tempo and by thus default of that get to pick their shooters from the already elite (business is good so demand is high).. -> Hence Tier I
But the ST6 articles keep wailing about how they are being used as a extended infantry only hunting low level Taliban...guess everyone has same issues!
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At last, the current dispensation has our soldiers' back. Now, settling OROP issue should firmly show how leftist Congress has stepped on their morale for last 70 years.
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>>You're right about the initial announcement

Ok, that is sorted.

>> Col Rathore just followed up with a series of cliches (however misleading re:the other border)

Col. Rathore was answering questions as a politician, no doubt drawing upon some experience. What are the cliches, by the way? That we will respond, that we will strike back? He was certainly not fully informed about the event, and that was clear from the interview itself. He was being what he is now, a politician.

>>guaranteed to appeal to jingos, as you can see here.

Something wrong with that? Or are you saying there is that special species of observer on the planet who makes an absolutely objective assessment of such situations? Or is it just that the appeal is not in your personal taste? If the last, it is fine, but then perhaps best to refrain from labelling lest you be labelled too.

>>But your complaint appears to be that the Indian Express is interrupting narrative with facts.

Not sure that I made a complaint, just a prediction. Where is the complaint? And you seem to be suggesting that the narrative is lacking in fact. Are you? Which part?

>>I think facts should count more, don't you?

Please.
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>>I don't see the point in saying "Look ma, there have been similar ops before. Not the first time".

some people just cannot stomach a Namo Govt success, never mind the bhutan ops was done under NDA1 also.

UPA=0, NDA=2
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Gentlemen, please take the SEAL and various other special forces structure discussions to another thread. They are valid, etc. but this thread is for the operation that was carried out yesterday, details, responses, media commentary and such like.

This thread can then be used as a repository of information on this operation, so perhaps somebody who has the ability and knowledge to write an article for BRM/SRR can do so and Suraj will hopefully put it in.

Any more of those off-topic stuff will be deleted when found.
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For those of you who want to learn more about 21 Para, check out this Youtube video from TimesNow. Though it is about a real badass colonel (now Brigadier) from the same regiment - Saurabh Singh Shekhawat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB9zJ2V8W90

I have heard that good Brigadier is still unmarried.
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Not only HR types...even some of the political parties getting ready for Bihar polls are going to raise doubts. First is going to be Diggi raja. Also, Khangres IT cell is getting better and all of us can recall their role played in denouncing Nepal quake work or the latest Sheikh Hassina statement fiasco.

The whole sole agenda being to show India in poor light even at the cost of nation.
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X-post - Originally posted by SSridhar in Indian Army News thread:

TOI: Inside Story Over 100 Rebels May Have Been Killed in Army's Myanmar Operations

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 609757.cms?
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Reason: JEM, thanks. I posted in the wrong thread.
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Here now, the same photo with the faces blurred

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 24/photo/1

It is being said that SDRE Dhruv was part of operation
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great job by armed forces. hopefully many more to go in the future. Enough of the nonsense of just condemning terror strikes.
Damn what any one says....Way to go 8)
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This news is slowly trickling into Pawki media.

Usual responses.. "Ha! we are not Myanmar. We are a nookilar powah!" "We will do the same to you!!" "India is spreading terrorism in Pure land! India will soon pay the price!!"

Meh..
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^^Please post links of Pak responses to this if you have them...especially media articles, opinions, etc.
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JE Menon wrote: >> Col Rathore just followed up with a series of cliches (however misleading re:the other border)

Col. Rathore was answering questions as a politician, no doubt drawing upon some experience. What are the cliches, by the way? That we will respond, that we will strike back? He was certainly not fully informed about the event, and that was clear from the interview itself. He was being what he is now, a politician.

>>guaranteed to appeal to jingos, as you can see here.

Something wrong with that? Or are you saying there is that special species of observer on the planet who makes an absolutely objective assessment of such situations? Or is it just that the appeal is not in your personal taste? If the last, it is fine, but then perhaps best to refrain from labelling lest you be labelled too.
The point is that this is filmy dialogue, and that there is no serious implications for the likelihood of overt cross-border pursuits into Pakistan -- in my opinion and that of pretty much every observer I follow. Col Rathore is certainly being a politician, which he is entitled to be, but jingos here (several of whom embrace the term, so not sure what you're objecting to) seem to be taking his words to heart. Which is mistaken IMO - and obviously that's my opinion, your touchy references to a "special species of observer" nothwithstanding.
>>But your complaint appears to be that the Indian Express is interrupting narrative with facts.

Not sure that I made a complaint, just a prediction. Where is the complaint? And you seem to be suggesting that the narrative is lacking in fact. Are you? Which part?
The fact is that there is a political and military background to this action, not least of which is a 2010 agreement between India and Myanmar to facilitate crossborder strikes by Indian forces over and above previous joint military operations (as occurred in 2006). These facts complicate the current government's preferred narrative (which more generally is to claim take credit for many things done by others - more so than any of its predecessors), but they cannot be wished away.
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Here is a link from DAWN: As predicted they got the message and focus of headline is on any place any time :). Comments at end of article as mentioned earlier.. wholesale browning of salvar day declared in pureland it seems. Intrestingly the first posting of article was only up to what indian minister said :) and in 60 minutes the need for steaming browning of pants dectated deep state driven message at end lol!!

India will carry out military strikes at any 'place and time', says minister


Following a rare cross-border attack conducted by the Indian Army in Myanmar, Junior Minister for Information and Broadcasting Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore said that based on intelligence "we will carry out surgical strikes at the place and time of our own choosing".

"Western disturbances will also be equally dealt with," the information minister said during a press briefing on Wednesday when asked if attacks could be carried out on the western (Pakistan) border, according to a report published on IBNLive.

The statements came after the minister lauded the Indian Army and Air Force for their operation in Myanmar that killed 20 terrorists on Tuesday.

"Our PM ordered hot pursuit in which two camps were completely annihilated. While the army carried out the strike, helicopters were on stand-by," he said.

Read: Indian troops hunt, kill militants ‘in Myanmar’

Rathore asserted that attacks on Indians are unacceptable and based on effective intelligence

The minister added that the operations were a message for all neighbours of India who harbour terror groups.

"Friendship and zero tolerance will go hand in hand. This is a beginning. India is strong. This message should go to everyone," he said.

The minister also hinted that the operation against Myanmar's northeast terrorists has altered India's strategy in dealing with such groups.

"I think it was the need of the hour as well, the entire nation wanted it and that's perhaps a reason why they voted a strong government at the Centre. It had become like a habit [for terrorists]. It is not like a 'kushti' match that if you go back into your area nobody will catch you. This message is very critical that we will strike you wherever you are," he said.

Rathore referred to the surgical strike inside Myanmar as an "unprecedented" and "extremely bold" step by the Indian government.

"Myanmar is a friendly nation and therefore there was complete cooperation, if the need required" Rathore said when asked whether the operation had support of the Myanmar government and army. The minister added that the operation was carried out by the Special Forces "entirely on their own."

India has long blamed top Pakistan for stoking a revolt in Muslim-majority Kashmir as well as giving material support to militants for attacks in other parts of India, including a bloody 2008 assault in the city of Mumbai.

Pakistan denies the accusation and says it is fighting militants.

Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has long advocated a tough stance towards Pakistan including the option of hot pursuit of militants. Since coming to power Modi has sought to ease tension but ties remain fragile.

Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said last month that his Indian counterpart’s recent statement about sponsoring terrorism to counter terrorism had confirmed “our assertions of Indian involvement in terrorist activities on Pakistani soil”.

He had said the statement of Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was a blatant admission of sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan.

Read more: RAW instigating terrorism, says army

Last month, the military’s top brass accused the Indian intelligence agency RAW of supporting terrorism in Pakistan. RAW has often been blamed by law-enforcement agencies for being involved in subversive activities in Pakistan.

Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry had also said the Indian intelligence agency is involved in various terrorist activities across Pakistan.

Also read: RAW involved in terrorist activities across Pakistan: foreign secretary

Chaudhry added that the matter had been taken up "a number of times" at the highest level with India through diplomatic channels.
Here are few comments:
a) Realist 6 minutes ago
LOL. Pakistan is not Mayanmar. Pakistan is a nuclear armed nation. Bring it on.
b) Hashim 8 minutes ago
Pakistan will do the same Mr. Neigbour!!

message for all neighbours of Pakistan who harbour terror groups.
c) Yatagan about 2 hours ago

We have Nukes Buddy!
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didn't take long for the HR campaign to start.

a mail from a unnamed manipuri woman has been published by none other than markandey katju to the IA page on fb, alleging that assam rifles had framed and killed a HR activist lady in her house in early june and the attack was revenge for that and that IA is letting loose a reign of terror across chandel district now....the usual allegations that its the IA which created the vast bands of NE terrorists!!

cashmere fellows have also joined the thread with nos of killed, raped innocents going up by the hour!

she also asked his support in eating beef.
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a local manipuri newspaper reported this yesterday.
Sangai Digest
http://www.thesangaiexpress.com/page/it ... g-sf-clash
By : Our Staff Reporter
UG-SF clash

IMPHAL, Jun 9: Troops of 44 Assam Rifles fought a gun battle with militants at Kongkan under Kamjong sub-division of Ukhrul district at around 6.30 am today.

It was reported that there was no casualty on either side in the gun battle which broke out at Kongkan about 8 Kms towards Myanmar border from Chassad police station.

After the gun battle got over, a combined force of 44 AR and 21 Para marched into Myanmar in pursuit of the militants. The security personnel were aided by the Indian Air Force. The two sides clashed again at a village known as Unchi inside Myanmarese territory, informed a source.
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two days ago the NSCN(K) had tried to attack a AR camp in arunachal
Suspected NSCN (K) rebels fire at AR camp in ArP

ITANAGAR, Jun 7: Suspected NSCN (K) militants fired on Sunday at an Assam Rifles (AR) camp in remote Lazu area in Tirap district of Arunachal Pradesh, three days after the group ambushed an army convoy killing 18 soldiers.

A group of 35 NSCN (Khaplang) rebels attacked the camp in the Indo-Myanmar border region around 2.30 am, Tirap SP Ajit Kumar Singla said.

However, there was no report of any casualty, he said.

“The AR personnel, who were on alert as per prior intelligence report, retaliated which compelled the militants to flee under cover of darkness,” Singla said adding, cross firing from both the sides lasted for about ten minutes.

Around 70 empty cartidges of AK-47 rifle, along with unexploded bombs, were recovered from the site, he said.
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the disaster which was india's past policy wrt nagaland is seen in this photo...KSCN(K) cadres in their camp 13 km from dimapur bearing all weapons, celebrating the naga republic day in 2010! "ceasefire" does not mean you let the bandits run the place with all their weapons!

http://e-pao.net/GP.asp?src=14..220310.mar10

and their boss in myanmar
https://zhonah.files.wordpress.com/2012 ... aplang.jpg
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