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Postby Austin » 06 Dec 2016 11:04

Russia and India have agreed on a plan of the international naval exercises "Indra-2016 Navy"
06/12/2016 3:47:30
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Vladivostok. December 6. Interfax - FAR EAST - Final Conference on the organization of the Russian-Indian naval exercises "Indra Navi-2016" was held on the basis of Staff of the Eastern Fleet of the Indian Navy at Visakhapatnam.

"During the conference, the Russian and Indian sides confirmed the dates of the exercise in the period from 14 to 21 December." Indra Navy 2016 "will include two stages - the coast phase and marine parts," - said the agency "Interfax - The Far East" Head of Department information support of the press service of the SBI on the Pacific fleet captain 2nd rank Vladimir Matveev.

He added that the Coast phase will take place from 14 to 18 December in Visakhapatnam. During this period, will hold meetings on interaction, tactical flying detachment, exchange of official visits and receptions, sports and cultural events.

"The offshore part will be held from 19 to 21 December in the waters of the Bay of Bengal. During this phase, participants teachings hold training on communication, will fulfill the episodes reflect the means of air attack, the night maneuvering ships, artillery firing at air and sea targets, Inspection actions restocking on course and other activities, "- said Matveev.

According to him, a number of training tasks also perform helicopter deck. To lead the international naval exercises "Indra-2016 Navy" would be the Indian side.

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Indra Navy 2016 exercise: The Indian side commanded the exercises this year

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India-Russia Indra Navy 2016 drills were held in the Bay of Bengal on December 14-21.

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Some 500 servicemen were engaged in the drills.

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The drills involved ship-based helicopters.

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The Indian side commanded the exercises.

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The squadron of the Russian Pacific Fleet included the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Tributs and the Boris Butom tanker ship.

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The Indian Navy was represented by INS Ranvir a guided missile destroyer, INS Satpura an indigenous frigate and INS Kamorta an indigenous Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) corvette.

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In the course of the drills, the participants fired reactive depth charges at a simulated enemy submarine in the Bay of Bengal.

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The first joint Russian-Indian naval drills were held in 2003.

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The joint naval exercises were also held in 2005, 2007, 2014 and 2015.

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The official ceremony and debriefing took place on board of Indian INS Satpura frigate.

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Postby SSridhar » 19 Mar 2017 09:07

Bilateral exercises give fresh push to India’s strategic ties - Dinakar peri, The Hindu

Four near-simultaneous exercises.

India is leveraging bilateral military exercises to further strategic cooperation. The Indian Army is currently engaged in or has just concluded four separate exercises with the armies of Nepal, Oman, Singapore and the U.S., with a focus on aspects like counter-insurgency, jungle warfare, heli-borne and special operations, meant to promote interoperability.

The exercise with Nepal also comes at a time when the Himalayan neighbour is expected to conduct its first military drills with China.

Latest drills

The Surya Kiran exercise with Nepal is underway at Pithoragarh in Uttarakhand, while the Al Nagah-II exercise with Oman is underway at Bakloh in Himachal Pradesh. They are infantry exercises meant to improve interoperability and focus especially on counter-terrorism. Both the exercises are spread over 14 days.

According to information submitted in Parliament by Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre on Friday, during the last three years India has signed defence agreements/memorandum of understandings (MoU) with 21 countries.

The Army has conducted exercises with 18 countries during the three-year period, including the current year, and Indian military personnel attended training and courses in 34 countries. This is the ninth edition of the Surya Kiran exercise from March 9-20 with Nepal. The Nepal contingent is represented by 300 personnel, including 26 officers.

One officer said the aim of the exercise was to conduct battalion-level combined training between the two armies. “Both the contingents would be working in a mixed group, which will allow them to enhance tactical level understanding of battlefield procedures,” he stated.

There is a component involving special heliborne operations in the counter insurgency environment, in which the Nepal Army personnel would be trained in basic skills of launching helicopter-borne operations.

There is also a component on the study of Left Wing Extremism in South East Asia and the Indian Army hopes to gain from the experience of the Nepal Army, including their best practices.

Meanwhile, the Army’s Para Special Forces and U.S. Army’s Special Forces honed their skills from February 27 to March 12 in Jodhpur. The exercise covered a range of activities, including advanced marksmanship, sniping techniques and military free fall.

“It was a platoon strength exercise with focus on joint exercises based on counter- insurgency and counter-terrorist operations in the rural desert terrain,” a senior officer said.

There were also case studies to include lessons learnt from operations in Afghanistan and the Middle East, among others, which the U.S. has been involved in for a long time and which are of interest for India.

Training agreement

The Bold Kurukshetra exercise with Singapore is an armoured exercise under way at the Babina field firing range in Uttar Pradesh, involving 250 soldiers from each side. India and Singapore have an agreement that allows the latter to use the Indian Army’s facilities for training and exercises. The agreement on utilisation of facilities by the Singapore Air Force was initially signed in October 2007 and Army facilities in August 2008.

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Postby SSridhar » 09 Apr 2017 07:41

India, Mongolia ‘cross swords’ - The Hindu
While the diplomatic world was fixated on the visit of the 14th Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh, not very far from there a small elite contingent of Indian and Mongolian troops began a two-week joint military exercise away from media glare.

On Saturday, even as Dalai Lama was in Tawang, the Indian Army made public the joint exercise, named Nomadic Elephant.
The timing of the exercise may be a mere coincidence, but assumes significance given last December China mounted economic sanctions on Mongolia after it refused to cancel the visit of Dalai Lama to the Buddhist majority country.

Nomadic Elephant

The Army said the 12th “iteration of Indo-Mongolian Joint Military Exercise Nomadic Elephant is presently under way at Vairengte from 05 April 2017 till 18 April 2017.” Vairengte in Mizoram houses the elite Counter-Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School of the Indian Army.

The Mongolian Army is represented by nine officers and 36 soldiers of the elite 084 Special Forces Task Battalion while the Indian Army is represented by a contingent of three officers, four JCOs and 39 soldiers of the Jammu & Kashmir Rifles, the Army said.

It said the exercise was aimed at training the troops in counter insurgency & counter terrorism operations under the United Nations mandate.

“The joint training will also lay emphasis on conducting operations by a joint subunit, comprising of troops from both the armies, in adverse operational conditions aimed at enhancing the interoperability between the two armies,” the army said.


Calling the shots

The Indo-Mongolian military exercise is taking place just about 800 kilometers away from Tawang—second highest seat of Tibetan Buddhism and home to a historic monastery—where Dalai Lama on Saturday said his followers, and not China, will decide the future of his office.


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Postby SSridhar » 20 Apr 2017 04:56

India, Russia to hold major tri-Service 'Indra' combat exercise for first time this year - Rajat Pandit, ToI
In the first such tri-Service wargames, India will hold a major combat exercise with Russia this year to crank up military-to-military ties between the two long-standing strategic partners.

"The Indra exercise, to be held in Russia, will include assets and manpower from the Army, Navy and IAF. This is the first time India will deploy the three services together for an exercise with a country," said a defence ministry source.

Finance minister Arun Jaitley, incidentally, will also be visiting Russia in his capacity as the defence minister for the Moscow Conference on International Security on April 25-26.

Though Russia has been India's largest defence supplier for long, notching up military sales worth over $50 billion since the 1960s, their armed forces do not exercise much together.

In sharp contrast, India and US hold a flurry of exercises every year, ranging from the top-notch naval Malabar wargames (with Japan now a regular participant) to the counter-terror Vajra Prahar & Yudh Abhyas Ines between their armies. The US has also bagged Indian arms contracts worth $15 billion since 2007, even overtaking Russia in annual sales over the last four years, as earlier reported by TOI.

But India and Russia have now resolved to expand their military-to-military ties. "The first initial planning conference has already been held with Russia to discuss the exercise scenario, assets and manpower for the tri-Service Indra. Two more such conferences will be held soon to finalise everything," said the source.

The major exercise comes at a time when India is planning far-reaching defence reforms to usher in some much-needed synergy among the three services, with the creation of a chief of defence staff post in the short-term as well as integrated theatre commands in the years ahead.

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India, US to focus on jointly countering submarine operations at Malabar exercise - Manu Pubby, Economic Times
India and the US are looking at expanding the scope of their annual Malabar naval exercise, with this year’s edition to be conducted in the Bay of Bengal likely to focus on increasing capability to jointly counter submarine operations, among other maritime threats.

While the final list of participants for the joint exercise to be held in July is still not final, the US Pacific Fleet Commander – whose warships will take part in the war games – said both sides are expected to share expertise in anti-submarine warfare, given the common platform they operate with, the Boeing P8 aircraft.

“There is a desire on both sides to continue to deepen all elements of the exercise. We continue to learn more and more how to operate our P8s more effectively, expect that the Indian Navy has the same experience. There would be a deepening of our understanding on how to operate those platforms in anti-submarine warfare environments,” Admiral Scott Swift said, talking to the media after bilateral meetings in the capital.

On calling in other nations like Australia for the exercise, the officer said the issue is under bilateral discussion between the US and India. It may be noted that Japan has been a regular participant at Malabar and Australia has long expressed its desire to be involved in the exercise as well.

The top US Admiral also expressed his concern on the Chinese One Belt One Road (OBOR) initiative, saying that the intent of the initiative is still not clear. The officer shared that Chinese vessels had started visits in the Pacific Ocean as part of the OBOR plan but that there was little clarity on what their plan is.

“Chinese ships are now doing an OBOR tour but (we are) not sure where they are going. It is the sense of uncertainty, the sense of angst that comes from (not knowing) what exactly the OBOR means,” Admiral Swift said.

Asked for his assessment on the Chinese Navy, in the wake of the recent launch of its second aircraft carrier that is expected to join service by 2020, the Pacific fleet commander admitted that the PLA Navy (PLAN) capacity is increasing.

“I would expect that their capacity will continue to grow as they learn more and more how to conduct operations. I would expect both their capability and capacity will continue to grow,” the officer said.

Responding to a question on whether the US is still keen on conducting joint operations with the Indian Navy, the Admiral said the US is anxious to conduct joint exercises but cautioned on the use of the ‘joint patrols’ term.

“Terms are important. I hesitate on (the use of the term) joint patrols. Last month, we have done multiple operations throughout the pacific – with Canada, New Zealand, Australia, France and Singapore. So, this is more the norm than the exception,” Admiral Swift said.

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Postby SSridhar » 13 May 2017 14:21

SIMBEX - 2017 - The Hindu
Four Indian naval ships are on deployment to South East Asia and Southern Indian Ocean as part of India’s Act East policy.

Indian Naval Ships Sahyadri, Shivalik, Jyoti and Kamorta are under the command of Rear Admiral Biswajit Dasgupta, the Flag Officer Commanding Eastern Fleet.

Both INS Sahyadri and Kamorta are on a port visit to Singapore from May 12 to May 21, during which the vessels will participate in the International Maritime Review and lMDEX-17, said a Navy statement.

Naval drills

Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sunil Lanba will also be attending the events from shore, the Navy said in the statement.

Later, the four ships and a P-8I long range maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare aircraft will participate in an exercise with Singapore’s Navy and Air Force as part of SIMBEX-17, the annual maritime bilateral exercises.

Held since 1994, this year’s exercise would be the 24th edition of SIMBEX.

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Postby Nikhil T » 31 May 2017 12:15

The more things change, the more they remain the same. Unfathomable that on one hand China directly arms our adversaries with nukes, fighters and submarines, directly protects terrorists with Indian blood and directly hampers our economic interests at NSG.. BUT on the other hand, India dithers for years on including a friendly country on a naval exercise. Do we really believe that China will NOT do additional deployments JUST because India did not have Australia observe an exercise?

India continues to display an amazing, unshakeable ability to not take a stand in the world. We're always too nice to all, unable to choose friends (not having a PM visit Israel for decades) and identify foes.

To avoid irking China, India wont include Australia in naval drills

NEW DELHI: India has rejected an Australian request to take part in joint naval exercises with the United States and Japan for fear of antagonising China, which has warned against expanding the drills, navy officials and diplomats said to news agency Reuters.

Australia formally wrote to the Defence Ministry in January asking if it could send naval ships to join the July wargames as an observer, in what military experts saw as a step toward eventual full participation.

Four officials from India, Australia and Japan told Reuters that India blocked the proposal and suggested that Canberra send officers to watch the exercises in the Bay of Bengal from the decks of the three participating countries' warships, instead. Both the United States and Japan supported the idea of involving Australia, seeing it as a natural partner in the effort to balance China's growing might, the four officials said.

But Delhi is worried that China will step up activities in the Indian Ocean where it is building infrastructure in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan, feeding India's anxiety about being encircled, according to Reuters' sources who remained unnamed.

Indian navy officials say there have been at least six submarine deployments by China in the Indian Ocean since 2013 and that Chinese submarines have been docking in Sri Lanka and its long-time ally Pakistan.

"India is being careful about China," said Abhijit Singh, a former Indian navy officer who heads maritime studies at the Observer Research Foundation in New Delhi.

"India is aware they have upped their maritime engagement in this part of the world and they could just become more brazen with their submarine deployments. We don't want that to happen," Mr Singh said.

India and China relations have slumped in the last few months over a series of issues including Beijing's blocking of Delhi's entry into the Nuclear Suppliers Group, a bloc of 48 countries that controls trade in sophisticated nuclear technology and material.

China has also been concerned that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government has stepped up public engagement of the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader who lives in exile in Dharamsala and whom it regards as a dangerous separatist.

The Malabar exercises started out as India-US drills in 1992 but have included Japan every year from 2014.

Dozens of warships, submarines and aircraft take part in the wargames, which are aimed at getting the three powerful navies used to working together. US military officials say this will help in future operations, including joint patrols across the Indian Ocean and the Pacific.

The exercises are now held in waters close to the East and South China Sea as well as the Indian Ocean.

China, which claims most of the South China Sea, has protested the expansion.

A spokesperson for Australia's Minister of Defence Marise Payne refused to comment on the Malabar exercises. But one Australian official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, told Reuters that it was increasingly unlikely Canberra would join the drills although it was keen to do so - Australia has also traditionally been wary of upsetting China, its largest trading partner.

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Postby sum » 31 May 2017 12:18

^^ Would take anything NDTV says with a pinch of salt. IMHO of course

The way we have ruffled the dragons tail in recent months without backing down, joint excercise with Oz is a minor thing. So there must be something else going on which NDTV of course guesses as they are out of sources in current GoI

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Postby Nikhil T » 31 May 2017 12:31

Its a Reuters report. link

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Postby Bheeshma » 31 May 2017 12:42

completely idiotic headline,China is shit scared of USN and JSMDF and not including RAN is meant to assuage them, That after conducting SiMBEX in Indo china sea? :rotfl: IN does not consider RAN an ally or useful in any manner. Among the 4 navies they are the weakest and completely reliant on USN. Other than geographical location what does RAN bring to the table?

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Postby Nikhil T » 01 Jun 2017 08:39

^ I disagree. RAN may be weakest in all the four, but that may not be the right way to think about allies. Taking the same logic further, now IN is the weakest navy amongst the three left in Malabar, but we don't see USN/JSMDF quitting. Allies need to be cultivated, strengthened where necessary because that's how we can count on them when necessary. Actually, I don't really think that IN doesn't want RAN because its not an ally/is weak, because why would it matter if RAN observed from its own ship versus from one of ours (we offered them the latter)?

Sure enough China is giddy at India heeding its diktat, even saying India is clear why it rejected it (i.e. that USN is actively encircling China).

China happy at India's rejection of Australian participation at Malabar
China on Wednesday indicated it welcomed India's reported move to decline requests from Australia to send ships to participate in the upcoming India-US-Japan Malabar naval exercises.
"I have noticed the relevant reports of India rejecting a proposal of participating parties in joint military exercises," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said in response to a question at a daily press briefing. I think India is clear about the consideration behind this behaviour," added Hua,


The introduction of Australia as a fourth country, some Chinese experts said, would suggest the drills were being aimed at China. But other analysts have cautioned allowing China to dictate the normal military exercises of other countries, pointing out that China itself carries out multilateral exercises, for instance through a newly set up quadrilateral mechanism with Pakistan, Afghanistan and Tajikistan.

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Postby chetak » 02 Jun 2017 14:22

the hans may have nothing to do with the RAN exclusion.


Why Is India Excluding Australia From Naval Drills?





Why Is India Excluding Australia From Naval Drills?

A closer look at the reasons for New Delhi’s stance on the Malabar exercises.


By Jeff M. Smith
June 01, 2017



Over the past quarter-century, the Malabar naval exercises have blossomed from a relatively mundane, low-level Indo-U.S. naval drill into a robust demonstration of geopolitical force joining the Indo-Pacific’s three most powerful democracies. The history and significance of Malabar, which Japan joined as a permanent participant in 2015, have received ample attention elsewhere. But let me focus this piece on the geopolitical context and significance of Australia’s request to join the 2017 Malabar exercises and India’s recent response.

Canberra has “regularly discussed” participating in Malabar with Delhi since at least 2015. Last month Defense Minister Marisa Payne publicly reaffirmed Canberra was “very interested” in quadrilateral engagement with India, the United States, and Japan. Apparently, Canberra’s private and public lobbying was for naught, with reports indicating India has declined Australia’s request to join Malabar 2017.

On the one hand, India’s decision tracks with its history of both its apprehensiveness toward geopolitical “alignment” broadly and quadrilateral demonstrations of force specifically as well as its traditional deference to Chinese sensitivities on related matters. On the other hand, recent changes in Indian foreign policy and the geopolitical landscape more broadly render Delhi’s decision somewhat surprising and—for those in Washington, Tokyo, and Canberra that have been lobbying for Australia’s inclusion in Malabar—lamentable.

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First, India’s decision breaks a trend of accelerating strategic engagement with Australia bilaterally, reinforced by a landmark nuclear cooperation deal reached in 2014 that ended a contentious legacy on nuclear-related matters. More recently, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was welcomed to Delhi in April, where he insisted Australia was ready to begin uranium exports to India and reaffirmed Canberra’s support for Indian membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group. Routine but hollow calls to deepen cooperation were replaced by meaningful advances in security ties: the two agreed to hold their first joint army exercises in 2018, establish a new “2+2” defense and foreign ministers dialogue, and enhance intelligence cooperation.

Not all the headlines were positive. Turnbull failed to advance a Logistics Support Agreement comparable to the one signed by Washington and Delhi last year. A Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement which has been six years in the making also witnessed little progress. Perhaps most significant, shortly after Turnbull departed Delhi, Canberra confirmed plans to scrap an employer-sponsored temporary work visa program (Indians account for more than one-quarter of the visas issued under the program each year).

Conspicuously announced just days after the visa program was canceled, India’s decision on Malabar may well have been related. Yet, it’s more likely India’s decision was influenced by a decision Australia made ten years ago, the first and last time it participated in a Malabar exercise.

In 2004, the navies of Australia, India, Japan, and the United States were thrust into a collaborate initiative by the most unfortunate of circumstances. Now largely forgotten in the West, in December 2004 a cataclysmic wave of tsunamis generated by an undersea megathrust earthquake off the coast of Indonesia claimed hundreds of thousands casualties across the Indo-Pacific. In response, the four democracies coordinated humanitarian relief efforts under the auspices of the ‘Regional Core Group.’

In the years to follow, the four capitals began flirting with greater quadrilateral strategic collaboration. In 2006 the Australia, Japan, and the United States formed their first trilateral security dialogue. In March 2007, Australia and Japan forged a bilateral security pact and India initiated its first strategic dialogue with Japan. The following month, India, Japan, and the United States conducted their first-ever trilateral naval exercise.

In May 2007, the four countries held the inaugural meeting of a new quadrilateral dialogue on the sidelines of an ASEAN Regional Forum meeting. “It is absolutely not new for Japan and the U.S. to sit down and plot conspiracies together but it is rather intriguing to get India involved,” noted the People’s Daily at the time. Six months later, Singapore joined the four navies in an unusually robust multilateral demonstration of naval power. Three aircraft carriers (two U.S., one Indian) led a special edition of the Malabar exercises that year, joined by a nuclear-powered submarine, and one dozen cruisers, frigates, and destroyers.

Within months the “Quad” met its untimely demise. A change in government in Australia prompted a shift in approach toward China and ultimately Canberra’s withdrawal from the initiative. While domestic politics in Japan and India were trending in similar directions, at a time when India was uneasily testing the boundaries of alignment, Australia’s about-face felt like a betrayal. Some version of “we stuck our neck out and Australia hung us out to dry” is still a common refrain heard in Delhi today.

It’s possible India’s decision on Malabar 2017 was influenced by this experience. But it’s just as likely the product of prevailing concerns about China’s potential reaction to any new Quad initiative. In an environment of elevated Sino-Indian tensions, Indian analyst Abhijit Singh argues that inviting Australia to join Malabar would “almost certainly cross Beijing’s tolerance threshold, triggering a backlash that New Delhi might find hard to contain.” He says Indian policymakers fear Australia’s participation “could trigger a game of high-stakes brinkmanship with China, with damaging consequences.”

While Singh accurately summarizes lingering concerns in Delhi, they appear largely unfounded and incongruent with the strategic confidence India has adopted toward China as of late. To be sure, this elevated confidence is not new and can be traced to as far back as 2010. That year, Delhi suspended all bilateral military relations with China after it refused to grant a visa to the commanding Indian general of Northern Command in Kashmir. Soon thereafter, Delhi refused to endorse the One China Policy in a joint statement with China and has omitted the language ever since, insisting Beijing must first recognize a “One India” policy and Indian sovereignty over Kashmir and Arunachal Pradesh.

Yet it is also true that this trend seems to have accelerated under the leadership of Prime Minister Modi. In just the last year this confidence manifest in Delhi’s unusually vocal support for a July 2016 UNCLOS Arbitral Tribunal decision that invalidated China’s nine-dash line claim. It was evident in visits to the Chinese-claimed territory of Arunachal Pradesh by the U.S. Ambassador to India and the Dalai Lama. And it was perhaps most evident in Delhi’s unique opposition to President Xi Jinping’s signature One Belt One Road Initiative. India is, after all, the only major country that refused to send representatives to this month’s highly-touted Belt and Road Initiative summit.

This confidence also explains Delhi’s growing comfort with multilateral (and particularly trilateral) security initiatives. An India-Japan-Australia trilateral dialogue was initiated in 2015 to complement an older U.S.-India-Japan trilateral dialogue that’s since been upgraded to the foreign minister-level. It also explains why India relented to adding Japan as a permanent participant in the Malabar in 2015 following years of lobbying by Tokyo and Washington.

Why this trend was broken by Australia’s Malabar bid isn’t clear. Nor is it clear why some in Delhi believe Australia’s inclusion would represent a some sort of red line for China or cross Beijing’s threshold in some way. The 2007 multilateral exercises prompted no more than a diplomatic note of concern from Beijing and a hawkish editorial in the Global Times. It’s also hard to imagine how Australia’s inclusion in Malabar would be more provocative than stonewalling President Xi’s legacy OBOR initiative or refusing to endorse the One China Policy, as Delhi has done since 2010.

Of course, it’s also possible more trivial contemporary and historical irritants in Indo-Australia relations are to blame. The implications of the decision, however, are far from trivial, retarding the development of a strategically consequential assembly of the Indo-Pacific’s strongest democracies at a time the regional security order is under growing duress. Delhi would be well-served by communicating its specific concerns about Australia’s inclusion and China’s reaction to its partners in Tokyo and Washington, and conducting a holistic review of the long-term costs and benefits of Australian membership before we move closer to Malabar 2018.

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Re: Joint Military Exercises News & Discussion

Postby Kakarat » 02 Jun 2017 15:28

Why should we accept the RAN when they have released the tech details of our submarine in pubic and instructed those bidding for their submarine project should not share those tech with India? They also rejected our request for OTH Radar tech

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Given the choice between waiting for information or shitting in our pants, Indian media invariably choose to shit in pants first and infect all readers with the same bug

It’s Not China, It’s You, India Seems to Tell Spurned Aussies
But former naval officers and analysts say the rejection more likely reflects New Delhi’s worries that Australia may not be an entirely reliable security partner.

“When it comes to formulation of a collective response to China, including in terms of ‘moderating’ Beijing’s assertive behavior, Australia does not particularly inspire confidence,” Indian Capt. Gurpreet Khurana, who also directs the National Maritime Foundation in New Delhi, told Foreign Policy.

That’s because the United States, India, Japan, and Australia have tried this before — only to see Australia walk away from four-way military exercises. In 2007, India, the United States, Japan, and Australia held naval exercises, along with Singapore. But China objected strongly, lodging diplomatic protests to each of the four main participants, as one goal of the quad was clearly a response to China’s own expanding maritime interests.

After Kevin Rudd became Australian Prime Minister, he held several meetings with Chinese officials, and in February 2008 Australia withdrew from the quad in a joint press conference with the Chinese foreign minister. “New Delhi hasn’t forgotten Canberra’s hasty capitulation a decade ago,” said Nitin A. Gokhale

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Postby sum » 06 Jun 2017 09:29

As expected.

Expect our folks to start dhoti shivering and bad mouthing GoI even as some half informed DDM will give out some half baked article without even waiting to see what actual story could be

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Malabar exercise to bring together Indian, US, Japanese warships - Rajat Pandit, ToI
Power play on the high seas, with China firmly in the crosshairs, kicks off next week. India, the US and Japan have all deployed their largest warships for the top-notch Malabar exercise to be held in the Bay of Bengal from July 10.

The tri-lateral exercise, with around 15 warships, two submarines and scores of fighter jets, surveillance aircraft and helicopters, comes at a time when Indian and Chinese troops are locked in a tense face-off near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction since mid-June.

In the show of strength during the Malabar exercise, the Indian flotilla of six to seven frontline warships and a Kilo-class submarine will be led by the 44,570-tonne aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya. This will be the first time the country's solitary carrier, with its MiG-29Ks, will take part in a fully fledged combat exercise with foreign countries since it was commissioned in November 2013.

Sources said the US will be fielding its over 100,000-tonne USS Nimitz, a nuclear-powered super-carrier with its full complement of F/A-18 fighters. The 'carrier strike group' will include a Ticonderoga-class missile cruiser, a Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine and three to four Arleigh Burke-class destroyers.

Japan is fielding its 27,000-tonne helicopter carrier Izumo and another warship for the intensive 10-day combat manoeuvres on the high seas off Chennai. Interestingly, the new Japanese warship, which can carry nine helicopters, is primarily meant for anti-submarine warfare.

So, one of the main thrust areas of this 21st edition of Malabar will be "submarine-hunting", with India and the US also deploying their Poseidon-8 long-range maritime patrol aircraft.

Royal Australian Navy warship HMAS Newcastle is currently in Kochi soon after India and Australia conducted a naval combat exercise off Freemantle in mid-June.
Though India did not agree to include Australia in the Malabar exercise, the US has in the past pushed India to join a quadrilateral security dialogue in the Asia Pacific region geared towards countering China's assertiveness in the area.

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After Malabar, India, US gear up for September military drill - Rajat Pandit, ToI
After the massive Malabar naval war-games with Japan in the Bay of Bengal last month, which had China firmly in the crosshairs, India and the US are now once again getting set to conduct the ''Yudh Abhyas'' joint exercise between their armies in September.

India and the US are steadily cranking up the scope, complexity and frequency of their bilateral military exercises as part of their "strategic partnership and convergence", even though New Delhi is as yet unwilling to join any formal tri-lateral or quadrilateral security axis to counter China's aggressiveness and expansionism in the Asia-Pacific region.

Incidentally, the US departments of defence and state, in a recent joint report to their Congress, said, "We see a growing convergence with India on our strategic outlook for the region, and we view India as an increasingly important regional security partner within and beyond the Indo-Asia-Pacific region."

This came soon after PM Narendra Modi and President Donald Trump vowed to further strengthen the already expansive India-US strategic ties in June, ensuring there were no stark departures from the previous Obama and Bush regimes.

"There were certainly some apprehensions. But there are a lot of fundamentals in place to keep the bilateral defence and security cooperation on an upward trajectory," said a senior official.

The finalisation of the Yudh Abhyas exercise, which will be held at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in the US from September 14 to 27, of course, also comes at a time when India and China remain locked in a tense troop stand-off near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet trijunction.

Over 200 Indian soldiers from the Gorkha Rifles will take part in the "battalion-level field training exercise with a brigade-level command post" under Yudh Abhyas, which the two countries now want to upgrade to "a more complex, combined arms, division-level exercise". "The exercise will further boost the interoperability between the two armies at the battalion and company level. It will also help the Indian Army understand the doctrines, battle drills and procedures of the US Army," said an officer.

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India to send 350 soldiers, 2 warships, aircraft for major tri-service combat exercise with Russia - Rajat Pandit, ToI
India will dispatch around 350 soldiers, a multi-role stealth frigate, an anti-submarine warfare corvette and some aircraft for the major "Indra" combat exercise to be held with Russia at Vladivostok from October 19 to 29.

This will be the first time India will deploy manpower and assets from the Army, Navy and IAF together for a tri-service exercise with a country. The aim is to crank up military-to-military ties with Russia, which has been India's largest defence supplier since the early-1960s but without the armed forces of the two countries exercising much together.

India, in sharp contrast, holds several exercises with the US ever year, ranging from the top-notch naval Malabar wargames (with Japan as a regular participant now) to the counter-terror Vajra Prahar & Yudh Abhyas between their armies.

After the massive Malabar exercise in the Bay of Bengal in July, for instance, the Indian and American armies will now hold the Yudh Abhyas exercise at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in the US from September 14 to 27.

Incidentally, the US is a signatory to the Indian arms contracts worth $15 billion since 2007, even overtaking Russia in annual sales over the last four years. But in a strong comeback for Russia during the Modi-Putin summit in Goa in October 2016, India inked pacts to acquire five S-400 Triumf advanced air defence missile systems, four Grigorivich-class frigates and 200 Kamov-226T light helicopters, while also sealing the lease of a second nuclear-powered submarine after INS Chakra, all together worth around $10.5 billion, as was then reported by TOI.

Officials say the Indra exercise's basic thrust will be on tri-Service operations in an integrated theatre scenario, with establishment and functioning of joint command structures and headquarters.

"The two armed forces will also learn each other's doctrines, tactics, techniques and procedures for joint operations. The final planning conference for the exercise will be held in mid-September," said an official.

The exercise comes at a time when India is also contemplating far-reaching defence reforms to usher in some much-needed synergy among the three Services, ranging from the creation of a tri-Service chief or permanent chairman of the chiefs of staff committee to integrated theatre commands in the years ahead.

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Japan proposes to deploy P-1 jet at Malabar 2018 exercise.
Excerpt from joint statement of defence ministers today.

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/905302422561718272

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After talking peace with China, India steps up military ties with Japan
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/after-ta ... an-1746717

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Extracts from the Joint Statement after India-Japan Annual Ministerial Defence Meeting

(2) Exchanges between Japan Ground Self Defence Force and Indian Army.

The Ministers welcomed the progress in the Army to Army Staff talks in November 2016 and agreed to develop active exchanges in the fields of PKO, Counter-Terrorism and Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief (HADR), as key areas of common interest for the two countries.

Japan Ground Self Defence Force (JGSDF) would invite Indian Armed Forces personnel to participate in the HADR exercise conducted by JGSDF as Observers.

In the context of enhanced co-operation between the two ground forces the Ministers decided to explore a joint field exercise in the field of counter-terrorism between the Indian Army and the JGSDF in 2018.


(3) Exchanges between Japan Maritime Self Defence Force and the Indian Navy.

The Ministers expressed satisfaction at the success of Japan-India-US Trilateral Maritime Exercise MALABAR 2017 in July 2017 and confirmed their intention to further deepen and advance the objectives of this Exercise. Minister Onodera expressed his intention to have state-of-the-art Japanese assets including P-1 to participate in the MALABAR 2018. Minister Jaitley welcomed this proposal.

The Ministers noted the importance of bilateral training interactions between Indian Navy and Japanese Maritime Self Defence Force (JMSDF). The two sides will consider inclusion of Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) training to expand cooperation. In addition the ministers agreed to pursue exchanges and training by ASW aviation units such as P-3C. The Japanese side proposed to invite Indian Navy personnel to mine-countermeasures training held by JMSDF.

(4) Exchanges between Japan Air Self Defence Force and Indian Air Force.

The Ministers welcomed the participation of Vice Chief of Staff, JASDF in “Aero India-2017” in February 2017. They also welcomed the visit of Indian Air Force helicopter crews to JASDF’s Air Rescue Squadron in Hyakuri, expanding bilateral air-to-air exchanges in the domains of aviation safety and air crew exchanges.

The Ministers expressed their intention to seek further opportunities to enhance cooperation by enabling visits of their aircraft to each other’s air bases.

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(4) Exchanges between Japan Air Self Defence Force and Indian Air Force.

The Ministers welcomed the participation of Vice Chief of Staff, JASDF in “Aero India-2017” in February 2017. They also welcomed the visit of Indian Air Force helicopter crews to JASDF’s Air Rescue Squadron in Hyakuri, expanding bilateral air-to-air exchanges in the domains of aviation safety and air crew exchanges.



Just as an FYI these exchanges are nothing new. I grew up in Tokyo. In 1999-2000 I met a Mig-29 Pilot who was on a 6-8 month deputation with the JASDF. I remmeber the then Mil Attache telling me that this was quiet normal and Mil Personal (all branches) do deputations with friendly militaries.

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India, Japan set to deepen anti-submarine warfare cooperation
http://thediplomat.com/2017/09/india-ja ... operation/

As I explained in a piece for The Diplomat Magazine, India could enormously benefit from enhanced training with the elite JMSDF submarine force. “Japanese submariners have gained admiration and respect for their professionalism and their boats’ excellent performance characteristics from allies all over the world including the Royal Australian Navy and U.S. Navy,” I noted. “During military exercises such as the U.S.-led Rim of the Pacific exercise, Japanese subs have repeatedly succeeded in penetrating multi-layered defense perimeters of carrier strike groups and successfully attack surface warships.”

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India should explain to Japan in simple word, something akin to Subash Chandra Bose.

"Give me technology and I will take care of China".

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The Malabar Exercises: An Appraisal - Col. Adarsha Verma, IDSA

The 21st edition of the Malabar exercises, Malabar-17, was conducted in the Bay of Bengal from July 10 to 17, 2017. The primary aim of the exercise was to increase interoperability amongst the navies of India, Japan and the US as well as develop a common understanding and procedures for maritime security operations. The exercise is a demonstration of the joint commitment of all three nations to address common maritime challenges across the spectrum of operations and will go a long way in enhancing maritime security in the Indo-Pacific region for the benefit of the global maritime community.1

The Indo-Pacific region holds immense geo-political and geo-strategic significance for navies around the world. The challenges of piracy, maritime terrorism, organised crime like drug trafficking, weapons smuggling, trafficking of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and related material, all have forced navies to conduct joint patrols and provide escort duties for shipping assets. In conjunction with these non-conventional challenges, the challenge to freedom of navigation in the South China Sea, unrelenting firing of missiles by North Korea and apprehension of non-accessibility of crucial choke points have elicited varying responses from the stake holders. It has become imperative for navies to cooperate with each other, ensure interoperability and position maritime assets to ensure peace and stability. Over a period of time, naval exercises between like-minded nations have become a viable mechanism to practice drills in a simulated setting in order to eliminate functional gaps that may lead to insecurities.

Historically, naval exercises have enhanced interoperability between navies and facilitated the dissemination of best practices in the maritime realm. Such exercises have also resulted in better training, improved readiness, and evolution of standard operating procedures (SOPs) as well as facilitated joint operations and increased the trust quotient among participating sides. The employment of hi-tech equipment in these exercises not only helps show-case superior technology, whose efficacy is keenly watched, but also leads to subsequent procurement deals thereby further boosting inter-operability and integration. The Poseidon Eight India (P8I) long range maritime patrol aircraft procured by India from the US is a pertinent example in this regard.

Though the Indian Navy has been carrying out exercises with Sri Lanka (SLINEX), Singapore (SIMBEX), France (VARUNA), Australia (AUSINDEX), United Kingdom (KONKAN), and South Africa and Brazil (ISAMBAR),to name a few, the Malabar exercise has always generated a higher level of interest and attention, especially amongst stake holders in this region.

Naval exercises between India and the US (Malabar) has been an ongoing affair since 1992. After a brief interlude due to India’s 1998 nuclear tests and the imposition of sanctions, the exercise became an annual feature since 2002. Initially pitched at a basic level of naval drills between the US and India, Malabar 2005 involved the participation of the aircraft carriers of both navies for the first time. In Malabar 2006, a complete US expeditionary strike group and Coast Guard ships of both navies participated in anti-piracy drills, pollution control, search and rescue, visit, board, search and seizure (VBSS) techniques, all of which were in consonance with the prevailing and perceived maritime threats.

In June 2007, days before the first-ever official-level security consultation between the US, India, Japan and Australia, China issued démarches to each of the participants seeking to know the purpose behind their meeting.2 Not wishing to send a signal of creating a common platform against China, no further multi-lateral Malabar exercises were conducted after 2007, in which Japan, Australia and Singapore also participated along with India and US. The Chinese reaction revealed the degree of suspicion with which it had started viewing such naval exercises. From 2009 onwards, all Malabar exercises have increased in complexity to include surface and anti-submarine warfare, coordinated gunnery exercises, air defence, employment of aircraft and submarines, VBSS drills and other high-end manoeuvres for exigencies likely to be encountered at sea. The sea-phase of the exercises has been conducted almost alternately in the Indian and Pacific Oceans since 2009, and Japan has been participating in these exercises whenever they were conducted in the waters of the Pacific Ocean in its vicinity.

In 2015, India took the bold move of including Japan as a permanent member of the Malabar exercises. This was significant because the same move had earlier triggered an outcry from China in 2007 when the exercises were expanded from the bilateral format. The change proclaimed India’s readiness to stand its ground on security matters and was welcomed both by the US and Japan. This also brought the navies of India and Japan closer to each other in terms of interoperability and created a better understanding of each other’s capabilities. It complemented the special strategic partnership shared by the two countries and underlined the will of the Indian government to create stronger capabilities in conjunction with Japan to deal with maritime challenges in the Indo-Pacific region.

In January 2017, Australia requested that its naval assets be allowed to attend Malabar exercises as an ‘observer’. This was reiterated by the Australian Defence Minister Marise Payne during her visit to Tokyo in April 2017, when she said that Australia was ‘very interested in a quadrilateral engagement with India, Japan and the United States’.3 Though Australia was denied an observer status in Malabar-2017, participation of the country in future Malabar exercises has not been foreclosed. The Chinese media has welcomed India’s decision to reject Australia’s request. India’s decision, however, seems to be motivated more out of the need to improve naval engagement at the bilateral level and look at multilateral exercises involving Australia, India, US and Japan at a later date, and not due to Chinese influence.4

Nevertheless, it is time that a holistic view of the evolving security scenario in the Indo-Pacific region is taken to arrive at a pragmatic decision of expanding the Malabar exercise to include Australia and perhaps other like-minded countries {I am not sure if including too many countries would keep the edge of the Malabar Exercise} . The operationalisation of the Gwadar port, deployment of troops in the Chinese base at Djibouti, among other developments, indicate the enhanced Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean Region. Given China’s disdain for international norms in the South China Sea, coupled with its keen ambition to attain global power status and increasing influence in the littorals, the status quo in these waters is likely to be disturbed, turning this Zone of Peace into a zone of competition, confrontation and conflict. Incidentally, the timing of the Malabar exercises has also coincided with India’s on-going standoff along its northern borders with China.{But, the exercise had been scheduled much earlier}

Considering that Australia also shares similar security challenges in the Indo-Pacific region as India in the present context, its inclusion thereby upgrading the present trilateral format to a ‘quad of nations’ would be a pragmatic decision that India will need to take very soon. Australia’s inclusion in future Malabar exercises may not strongly alter the maritime environment, but the political message will be loud. It is an indication of resistance to any aggressive posturing and change in status quo in these waters. Exercise Malabar, if upgraded to a quad of the navies of these countries, will further reiterate the message of strategic deterrence and solidarity among these like-minded nations, thereby ensuring greater security given the complex dynamics of mistrust, ambition and competition prevalent in the Indo-Pacific region.

Based on the platform provided by the Malabar exercises, a perceptible beginning to a peaceful Indo-Pacific region can be made if India seizes this opportunity to take the lead in forming an overarching security quad of India, Australia, Japan and the US, thereby demonstrating a cooperative approach, greater coherence and a shared resolve to address maritime security issues in the Indo-Pacific.

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Postby SSridhar » 14 Sep 2017 08:16

Indo-Russian war games in Oct. - Dinakar peri, The Hindu
India and Russia have begun discussions to work out the modalities for their first tri-service military exercise to be held in October. It will also be India’s first bilateral military exercise with any country involving all three services.

The Indra exercise is scheduled from October 19 to 29. The Final Planning Conference (FPC) will be held from September 12 to 15 in Russia. All logistical issues and modalities will be finalised here,” an Army source told The Hindu .

In April, the two countries decided to upgrade Indra from an individual service exercise into an integrated tri-service.

“The aim of the exercise is to carry out joint exercises for suppression of international terrorist activities under the United Nations mandate,” the source added.

The Army will send about 350 soldiers from the infantry, artillery and armoured streams.


Heavy equipment

While the soldiers will take with them infantry weapons, ammunition, radio sets and related equipment, the issue of taking T-72 tanks and other heavy equipment will be decided in the FPC.

The Navy is fielding two ships, a stealth frigate, INS Satpura , and an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) corvette, INS Kadmatt , along with two on-board helicopters. The naval component is likely to include an ASW component, the details of which are awaited.

The Air Force, which flies a large number of Russian aircraft, is likely to share fighter jets of the host. Details of contingent and other support elements would be decided in the planning conference.

Finding synergy

“This will be an opportunity for India to synergise jointness between its services and see how other countries function jointly,” one defence official said referring to India’s efforts for tri-service integration.

The headquarters of the Integrated Defence Staff under the Defence Ministry is leading the exercises from the Indian side.

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INDRA 2017

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Indian Tri Services Exercise Indra 17 contingent were accorded ceremonial welcome,Vladivostok,17 Oct

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HQ IDS‏Verified account @HQ_IDS_India 3h3 hours ago

Joint Army Task Force executing response to Trt Attk on Check Post during #INDRA2017


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Indian Naval Ships arrive in Vladivostok to take part in 1st ever Indian-Russian joint military excercises with great fanfare ! #INDRA2017

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#Indra2017 : Task Force Commander being briefed by Indian Air Force Pilots [/b

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[b]Indian and Russian pilots flew Russian Mi-8 aircraft today practicing troop insertion in support of ground operations in #INDRA2017


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SpokespersonNavy‏Verified account @indiannavy 3h3 hours ago

#INDRA2017 Evolution to watch out for- Amphibious Operations incl assault from Russian Amphibious Ship RFS Nevelskoy during Sea Phase on 28 Oct.Embarkations in progress at Vladivostok @HQ_IDS_India

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#Indra2017 : Task Force Commander visiting @indiannavy ships for joint planning

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Synergy stands well-established. Coordination Meeting of Joint Force HQs of Exercise #Indra2017 in Sergeyvksy

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Indian Task force amphibious group troops compete against Russian Marines,Marine Corps Base,Vladivostok #INDRA2017 ,Vladivostok,22 Oct 17

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Sandeep‏ @SandeepUnnithan Oct 22

Curious photo mix at #INDRA2017 camp. Gandhi, Nehru, Sub Karam Singh PVC w Marshals Vasilevsky, Zhukov.


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Camp Site of #Indra2017 at Sergeyvsky Range where lowest temperature has already dipped to minus six degree

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#Indra2017 : Sports activities today at Sergeyvksy Range


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Video: Russian & Indian Pilots Flying the Flanker

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Russia: Joint Indra-2017 military drills kick off in Vladivostok



INDIA - RUSSIA joint Military Exercise ( INDRA 2017 ) Highlights




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Postby SSridhar » 30 Oct 2017 14:32

India, Russia conclude war games - The Hindu
India and Russia concluded their joint tri-service exercise, Indra, in Vladivostok on Sunday.

Indra was an 11-day joint training in counter-terrorism operations.

This is India’s first tri-service exercise with any country.

“In the series of bilateral exercises under combating terrorism, the exercise this year focused on conduct of counter-insurgency/counter-terrorist operations under United Nations mandate in a joint service environment. The exercise also provided an opportunity to both the armies for greater cultural understanding, sharing experiences and strengthening mutual trust and cooperation,” the Defence Ministry said in a statement.

The exercise began on October 19 and saw the participation of over 800 Indian personnel. Indian forces largely used Russian equipment with which they are very familiar.

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HQ IDS‏Verified account @HQ_IDS_India Oct 29

Closing ceremony of #Indra2017


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