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rajsunder wrote:
kit wrote:
You hit the nail on the head

Yes indeed., the SSBNs, SSNs, the tracking ships et all comes under the PMO special budget that is kept outside the regular defense budget allocations
So that means we do not have a this OR that situation. we can have both the IAC-2 and 6-SSN. May be its more of a inter service rivalry that is at play here.
I think it is what it is., there seems to be a move towards sea control using powerful destroyers along with sea denial using SSNs for now., this move with the IN might as well require QUAD cooperation and access to bases in SC seas.

The 60+k carriers would come later, expect movement towards carriers in 2030-35 time frame
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The six SSNs are to come from the navy budget, right alongside every other naval project.

There are reports of special budgets, but those are for other projects. The longer they continue to delay the sanction of funds for IAC-2, that much longer it will take for the vessel to arrive.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/spec ... 2015-03-26

A bit confusing here. The SSN project is under the PMO.
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Do not confuse the ATV project with the SSN project. They are two different platforms meant for two different roles. I realized that is where you and rajsunder were assuming the funds were coming from. But that is not the case. Even the above link you posted does not state that the SSN project comes under the PMO.

The ATV's only role is strategic. ATV will not conduct any other role of a traditional SSK/SSN submarine. It is in the PMO's interest to ensure the program is funded. No Govt - Congress or BJP - will want India's nuclear strike capability to be un-viable. Same is true for India's land based, nuclear tipped missiles i.e. Agni. Funding for these programs come from sources other than the defence budget.

The SSN program is not a strategic project like the ATV. Neither is IAC-2. And neither are any of the other naval projects. To the PMO, the MoD and all other stakeholders...these are projects like any other acquisition program i.e. 114 MRFA. Which program gets funding and which does not, depends on a number of factors. It is unfortunate for the Navy that the CDS does not hold the same view. But the CDS makes the call on which project gets sanctioned. This is the new set up. That is the whole point of CDS. Service Chiefs and Service HQs will have to get used to it.

To make matters worse for the Navy, CDS is a brand new set up in the Indian military hierarchy. The present CDS is a product of the Army. Just because he is CDS, you cannot expect him to turn the switch off from a four decade long, army way of thinking to a new jointmanship CDS way of thought. There will be lots of mistakes made, but lessons will be learnt. As I said earlier ---> the longer they continue to delay the sanction of funds for IAC-2, that much longer it will take for the vessel to arrive. The navy themselves are saying that IAC-2 will take 15 years to arrive.

But the most important point to ask is this ---> why is the navy now asking the Govt that funding for the SSNs should take priority over the project to build a third aircraft carrier? Next month, the DAC is expected to sanction the long delayed Project 75I SSK program. Why is the navy not putting both those projects on hold in exchange for IAC-2? So obviously the funding for the six SSNs and the six SSKs are coming from the Navy's budget only, just as IAC-2 will be.
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Swarajya reports that the IN will shortly approach the GOI for approval of 6 SSNs,prioritised over a 3rd. carrier. The Gurgaon sub design centre has reportedly been working on the design since 2017. If accurate,it's superb news as our sub fleet is the weakest arm of the IN. A sanctioned nation like Iran possesses reportedly over 35 subs, more thanthe IN, most of them small and semi-heavy subs in addition to its few Kilo SSKs. The 600t Fateh class can dive to 250m,UW speed of 14+ kts.,carries 12 torpedoes and has over a month's endurance. Larger 1000t subs are on the anvil.

The IN has as of now 8 Kilo + 4 U-209/1500 U-boats of CW legacy design,though upgraded especially the Kilos with Klub variants.
The 6 new Scorpenes are being commissioned 5 yrs. late.A scathing CAG report blames the French squarely for delays and cost overruns, poor TOT which does not augur well for extra Scorpenes ,perhaps a couple to keep MDL busy until the P-75I design is fnalised. The upgraded Kilos should last us until the decade end.There was an offer for a 3+3 Kilo deal from Ru at low cost. Kilos are the fastest subs being built,only 2 years, and substantially upgraded with Kalibir 2500km land attack missiles which could have N-warheads too. This is a cost effective option which could keep around 8 to 10 Kilos active at any time. This could be exercised apart from the P-75I req. whete new German AIP U-boats would be the best solution.

Additional Akulas on lease is another option for the IN to maintain a strong blue water sub fleet while the SSN programme progresses. At least one more Akula is being modified and the option on retaining the Chakra exists. Another recent report of 2 PLAN research vessels going silent operating in the IOR, one used the Malacca Straits,the other Sunda Strait ,and secretly rendevoued off the Indonesian coast going " silent", The ships are suspected of surveying that stretch of the IOR for future benefit of its subs which are planned for permanent operations in the IOR from bases at Gwadar,etc. in Pak and from its Indo-China Sea main base at Hainan and the numerous atolls and islands seized and militarised.

Having given SL 1.5 billion as a loan, the possibility of PLAN warships and subs using the island's ports for logistics cannot bf ruled out too. This would be tantamount to direct hostile actionagainst India which must tell the GOSL in no uncertainterms that it would invite grave " repercussions" from India.
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https://twitter.com/TheAvenger82/status ... 22980?s=20 ---> The Indian Navy is likely to approach the Narendra Modi government soon seeking “acceptance of necessity” for the project to build six nuclear-powered submarines or SSNs.

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 73705?s=20 ---> Too slow. As per original plan (just a couple of years old) steel cutting for SSNs was to take place in FY22-23. But if even AON is granted in a couple of months, steel cutting will happen at FY23-24 at the earliest (unless they have managed to freeze design & technical aspects).
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From the article above....
According to South Block officials, the Indian Navy told the country’s national security planners at the Combined Commanders Conference this month that the plan to build the nuclear-powered attack submarines or SSNs should take priority over the project to build a third aircraft carrier (also called indigenous aircraft carrier)
https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 94560?s=20 ---> General Rawat at his first briefing last January.

(IAC-2) is a major investment...what is it that the navy will not get (if they push for it...? Answer: Six SSNs.

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 19009?s=20 ---> Any case, neither IAC-2 nor SSNs coming this decade - only the Chakra-3 and 3 Scorpenes. So fight with what you have...

Buy within the budget: the new prioritisation mantra
https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-i ... 2020-02-07
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6 SSNs will cost 75% of CV-3, without the additional cost of escorts,etc. There will be additional moolah for another 6 AIP SSKs too. In addition, a fleet of UUVs/ mini subs could greatly assist in sanitizing the ANC .

I agree that mirroring the PLANs DDG with a 12,000t cruiser class warship is the wrong route. The Russians dumped their Lider Class DDG in favour of small heavily armed corvettes in large number, plus the Admiral Grigorivich class FFGs, a further improvement of the Talwars, less than 5,000t. The USN too is not in favour of light CVs, smaller warships of corvette size, which has become the class of choice of 90% of global navies. I mentioned much earlier that the IN needs a new corvette to augment/ replace the Khukri/Koras, 12 to 16 in number, of not more than 2000t. Our P-15s appear to have enough space fore and aft for extra missile silos. Out of the box options could include a merchantman modified to carry dozens of various types of missiles in modular packages, which could be part of a CBG or flotilla.
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Philip wrote:I agree that mirroring the PLANs DDG with a 12,000t cruiser class warship is the wrong route. The Russians dumped their Lider Class DDG in favour of small heavily armed corvettes in large number, plus the Admiral Grigorivich class FFGs, a further improvement of the Talwars, less than 5,000t.
Russia dumped Lider & settled on heavy corvettes & FFGs (more on that below) because of lack of $$.

Currently missile corvettes (I.e Buyan) are primarily intended to operate in Caspian and Baltic sea. Their main Pacfic and Arctic fleet is supposed to receive Gremyashchiy, Admiral Gorshkov and Grigorivich class vessels but latter is being sold off to save $$. Gorshkov and Grigorivich construction is moving very slowly.
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The key thing to watch out for in the six SSN program, is the reactor. See this article from 2017.

Why Admiral Sunil Lanba’s visit to a French nuclear shipyard is significant
https://www.dailyo.in/politics/admiral- ... 20543.html
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Media today,SSN numbers cut to 3 +3 later being forwarded for approval. With the lease of Akulas,we may see a total of 6 SSGN/SSNs plus a similar number of SSBNs in service by the next decade.
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https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 41987?s=20 ---> Report: CCS to approve the construction of the first three Indian Navy nuclear powered attack submarines (SSN) in 1-2 months. Commissioning expected in FY2031-32. Approval for three SSN Block 2 in later stage.

https://twitter.com/rajatpTOI/status/13 ... 69601?s=20 ---> India set to clear a mega indigenous project to build three nuclear-powered attack submarines, which will be followed by approval for another three at a later stage, as part of the long-term plan to counter China’s expanding naval footprint in the Indian Ocean Region & beyond.

https://twitter.com/rajatpTOI/status/13 ... 32294?s=20 ---> The overall project is for the construction of six nuclear-powered attack submarines or SSNs, each weighing over 6,000-tonne, at the ship-building center (SBC) at Vizag. The CCS set to give the final nod for 3 SSNs initially.

https://twitter.com/rajatpTOI/status/13 ... 06053?s=20 ---> India will also commission its second nuclear-powered submarine armed with nuclear ballistic missiles (SSBN), INS Arighat, this year. The first, INS Arihant, became fully operational with “a successful deterrence patrol” in late-2018.

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Tweets below are in response to the news piece above.

https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... 62656?s=20 ---> We are finally getting serious about local build. A SSN build of 3+3, makes sense. The second batch of SSNs can be of new design with technology and design improvements that would have matured over the first 3. Also note the 5 SSBN program, with 2+2+1 of different weight classes.

https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... 71305?s=20 ---> Using these SSNs we can literally preposition them at select choke points and either interdict PRCs trade lines or ambush any flotilla that heads towards us, or guard the SSBNs. One SSN itself cause a lot of damage. Four (3 Indian + Akula) boats, followed by 3 more, is a good start.
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From what my chaiwallah told my paanwalla, There are three concurrent projects.
3 Attack boats with AIP (P75I+), 3 AIP Boats with Missile Plug + ATV3
IAC3 will be a Jalashwa/ Trieste with a ski-jump

I got to know this 4 days ago...
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Thanks. Did you mean IAC-2?

And 3 attacks boats with AIP and 3 AIP boats with missile plug will be the six P-75I SSK contract?

And the ATV3 will be the first batch of three SSNs?
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He said IAC3 - Probably there are design changes, more like a multipurpose carrier. Correct on the P75I interpretation. FWIW, the ATV3 is still in limbo because the AIP is performing exceptionally well in testing. This is all I have from him...
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Thanks.
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Nikhil_Naya wrote:He said IAC3 - Probably there are design changes, more like a multipurpose carrier. Correct on the P75I interpretation. FWIW, the ATV3 is still in limbo because the AIP is performing exceptionally well in testing. This is all I have from him...
why would be the ATV 3 be in limbo because the AIP is working well? there is absolutely no comparison between a nuke reactor vs diesel/AIP subs !! Apples and oranges
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I believe cost considerations and priorities. The current ATV project is doing well - though they aren't attack boats but nonetheless enough deterrence and range for our primary area of responsibility and function.

Cost perspective I believe, the AIP equipped subs give a better bang for the buck in our backyard where endurance is replaced with more silent running? TBH, I am way out of my league in this - there are better people here to discuss. However from a pure economic perspective, maybe this makes sense?
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Nikhil,did the paanwallah tell the dhobiwallah the same,that the IAC-3 will be a multi-role amphib?
If that's so,I couldn't be happier,as it validates my postulating for aeons for the same.

AIP boats are find for the littorals,shallower waters,but for true- blue ops, N-subs with their 90+ day endurance, high speed,larger weapons payload,etc., are the best bet. An SSN of around 8000t should cost between $ 1.5 to $2 B. One could get around 5 new Kilos/ Amurs or 3 German U-boats for that price. The Ru offer of 3+3 Kilos for under $2B should be examined to beef up numbers and replace the oldest 636s in a short period of time.

There is one important point that has had little discussion reg. our CVs.Their weapon systems for integral air defence and anti-sub systems. In the past our CVs had mainly 30mm CIWS systems,the Viraat Barak-1 and towed ASW acoustic decoys. However, with increasingly sophisticated anti-ship,BM,missiles proliferating, new CV concepts show a larger number of SAMs and CIWS systems mounted on sponsons for and aft of the flight ddck.ASW hard-kill systems are also required to deal with wake-homing torpedoes and others that make repeated attacks . Right now we have the desi Mareech decoy system but no hard-kill system The only known such system is the Ru Paket, with a 2km range, being installed on sev. types of warships.

In the Falklands War,the RN reportedly used 5 SSNs,a few more diesel subs, scores of warships and helos to search for just one Argie SSK,the German built San Luis.This was because the sinking of even just one carrier would've lost Britain the war.They were unsuccessful ! The San Luis supposedly made 3 attacks against the carriers but a technical fault in the torpddoes ( fuse?) saw these attacks fail. In WW2,the Allies used from data around 100 aircraft and dozens of warships for every German sub. It was mainly because the German codes were broken by Bletchley Park that the Battle of the Atlantic was won by the Allies who knew where to look for the U-boats. In recent times,we too spent a lot of time locating just one Paki sub which had slunk off in the vicinity of Gwadar during one of the recent spats.

Given the huge cost of a carrier, integral defence from the 2 threats mentioned should be upgraded and augmented asap.
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Nikhil_Naya wrote:I believe cost considerations and priorities. The current ATV project is doing well - though they aren't attack boats but nonetheless enough deterrence and range for our primary area of responsibility and function.
. However from a pure economic perspective, maybe this makes sense?
Defense/military matters do not run on pure economic sense , anyway i wont go into suppositions .The cost of a modern diesel electric sub (esp the large ones IN looks for ) would i think cost nearly the same as a SSN !!
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Philip wrote:An SSN of around 8000t should cost between $ 1.5 to $2 B. One could get around 5 new Kilos/ Amurs or 3 German U-boats for that price.
8000T SSN for $1.5 to 2 Billion? From where are you getting this figure? 6000T SSN planned by India is going to cost $2.1 Billion.

5 new Kilos/Amurs for $1.5 to 2 Billion? yeah yeah I want to sell the Taj Mahal - Interested?
Philip wrote: The Ru offer of 3+3 Kilos for under $2B should be examined to beef up numbers.
Wait, you claim above that 5 new Kilos are available for $1.5 to 2 Billion, so then why are you proposing that India go for 30 year old rust buckets for $2 Billion. Or did you mean to convey that old or new does not matter - it is still junk :lol:
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I am waiting for this piece to come out. Will be an interesting read...

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 99624?s=20 ---> Have a detailed story on India's Project 76 SSNs out in ⁦⁦@IndiaToday magazine out⁩ tomorrow. Had to share this v fine artists’s impression by @Nilanjandas72.

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While the above is only an artist impression, some points to note;

1) Pump Jet Propulsion

2) VLS Cell for BrahMos
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^^^ hain ji and no mention of the Ticonderoga class in the background :mrgreen:
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Not to mention that the design looks suspiciously like an Akula. I think it is just an illustration created by the artist based off of photos of existing submarine designs. Shouldn't read anything into it.
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nachiket wrote:Not to mention that the design looks suspiciously like an Akula. I think it is just an illustration created by the artist based off of photos of existing submarine designs. Shouldn't read anything into it.
Nachi I reckon its more akin to a Yasen if you look at the con tower and tail with the addition of a pump jet
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andy B wrote: Nachi I reckon its more akin to a Yasen if you look at the con tower and tail with the addition of a pump jet
You are right. I forgot about the Yasen class.
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Will wait for Sandeep's piece.The SSN depicted looks interesting.Sail partly like an Akula, but would like to see a frontal pic too. One point is the VLS cells are immediately aft of the sail. Probably easier to fit in with the Arihant design experience.Some newer attack subs have both torpedo room and VLS cells forward of the sail. It would be reasonable to assume that the Arihant design has influenced the SSN too. About the same size,we're told in earlier reports that the SSN would be around 6,000 t to 8,000 t ,but with shorter VLS missiles obviating the need for the hump. From the pic a conventional forward section with a chin mounted sonar and conventional torpedo room.
We can't tell from the pic whether there's an escape cell fitted in the sail or hull as on our Akula . Let's wait for more details.
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andy B wrote:^^^ hain ji and no mention of the Ticonderoga class in the background :mrgreen:
You got some good eyes! I could not make out that ship.
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andy B wrote:
nachiket wrote:Not to mention that the design looks suspiciously like an Akula. I think it is just an illustration created by the artist based off of photos of existing submarine designs. Shouldn't read anything into it.
Nachi I reckon its more akin to a Yasen if you look at the con tower and tail with the addition of a pump jet
There will be Russian assistance in the design. They helped out with the Arihant Class as well.
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Guys why are we assuming that the design in the graphic is the actual design of the sub? Why would they release it to IT or the artist? The design is probably not even complete (or even started?) since the project is just beginning. Easiest way would be to modify the Arihant design itself into an SSN. It is small enough to be viable.
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My apologies Nachi Saar if my post was suggesting that. I was admiring the design of the artist. Nothing more. I am not claiming that the design is going to be like the artist depicted.

But with the Akula lease and possibly another one in the works, a design resembling something like an Akula/Yasen could be a possibility.
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Rakesh wrote:I am waiting for this piece to come out. Will be an interesting read...

https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 99624?s=20 ---> Have a detailed story on India's Project 76 SSNs out in ⁦⁦@IndiaToday magazine out⁩ tomorrow. Had to share this v fine artists’s impression by @Nilanjandas72.

India's nuclear sharks
The navy chief pressed Prime Minister Narendra Modi over the urgency of the programme to build the SSNs, each displacing around 6,000 tonnes and costing around Rs 16,000 crore, as key to solving the crisis in India’s underseas combatant arm.
The project involves a final design clearance in Gurugram, nuclear reactor construction in Kalpakkam, hull fabrication in Hazira and assembly and sea trials at the ship-building centre (SBC) in Visakhapatnam. It will take over a decade for the first 6,000-tonne submarine to enter the waters.
In 2006, when a committee headed by then principal scientific advisor to the PM, R. Chidambaram, identified the technology that would be needed to develop a new generation of nuclear submarines, three new ‘S-5’ SSBNs displacing around 13,500 tonnes. Both designs would be powered by a new indigenously designed nuclear reactor designed by BARC (Bhabha Atomic Research Centre). This high performance reactor, believed to have an output of around 190 MW, would be a vast improvement over the Arihant class’ modest 83-MW reactor. In 2007, a naval HQ paper projected a formal need for six SSNs with the first unit to be fielded in 15 years (by 2022).
The navy’s Submarine Design Group (SDG), it is understood, is yet to finalise the design. It will take at least two more years for this to happen before work can begin on fabricating the hull for the submarine.
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Snehashis wrote:India's nuclear sharks
Sirjee, you rock! Thank You. Coming from Sandeep Unnithan, you know it is spot on.

Some gems from the article....
It is believed that an ambitious naval project to build a second indigenous aircraft carrier, the 65,000-tonne IAC-2, has now been shelved in favour of the SSN project.
Shelved = Only means delayed and *NOT* cancelled. But the longer the delay in laying the keel for IAC-2, that much longer it will take for the vessel to arrive.
The Modi government’s thinking for submarines over aircraft carriers was shaped to a large extent by the committee of experts headed by Lt Gen. D.B. Shekatkar. The committee, which submitted its report to defence minister Manohar Parrikar in December 2016, explicitly struck down the proposal for a third aircraft carrier and pitched for more submarines. Parrikar shared this view as well. The late defence minister frequently argued that the only way India could counter a growing Chinese surface fleet was by fielding submarines that could hunt them.'

Perhaps Parrikar knew what the American intellig­ence assessments had repeatedly flagged. The PLA navy was growing fast, but so was its Achilles’ heel, the lack of anti-submarine warfare capabilities. This vulnerability is best exploited by nuclear-powered attack submarines, what nuclear strategist Rear Admiral Raja Menon (retired) calls “the ultimate arbiter of sea power”.
The navy has tried to match a brown water budget with its blue water aspirations.
The most apt line from the entire article. Sad, but 100% true.
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Rakesh wrote:
The Modi government’s thinking for submarines over aircraft carriers was shaped to a large extent by the committee of experts headed by Lt Gen. D.B. Shekatkar. The committee, which submitted its report to defence minister Manohar Parrikar in December 2016, explicitly struck down the proposal for a third aircraft carrier and pitched for more submarines. Parrikar shared this view as well. The late defence minister frequently argued that the only way India could counter a growing Chinese surface fleet was by fielding submarines that could hunt them.'

Perhaps Parrikar knew what the American intellig­ence assessments had repeatedly flagged. The PLA navy was growing fast, but so was its Achilles’ heel, the lack of anti-submarine warfare capabilities. This vulnerability is best exploited by nuclear-powered attack submarines, what nuclear strategist Rear Admiral Raja Menon (retired) calls “the ultimate arbiter of sea power”.
Parrikar ji's influence extends even after his passing. I am glad his view has been accepted and that is how we are proceeding.
Rakesh wrote:
It is believed that an ambitious naval project to build a second indigenous aircraft carrier, the 65,000-tonne IAC-2, has now been shelved in favour of the SSN project.
Shelved = Only means delayed and *NOT* cancelled. But the longer the delay in laying the keel for IAC-2, that much longer it will take for the vessel to arrive.
Sirjee, in a country where supposedly active projects like P-75I go absolutely nowhere for 15 years, we can safely conclude that shelved means cancelled in government speak.
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Thanks Snehashis for sharing!

I was under the impression that the SSN construction was going on for a few years now, based on the Arihant design. There were reports to that effect. Yawn! Another decade, best case scenario.
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The navy has tried to match a brown water budget with its blue water aspirations.
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The IN plan will result in us becoming a tech powerhouse with the most crucial capability inhouse. A 190 MWth reactor is no joke. It would open up a range of possibilities for us. Arihant is currently at half that, at 83 MWth. We can expect cooperation with the French on many crucial aspects of this submarine class. I hope IN also pushes DRDO to develop cutting edge sonars, countermeasures, combat systems for this class, given we have a decade before they enter the water.
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