Shiv AroorVerified accountPrem Kumar wrote:Whoa - where did you get 10 from??
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Terrible #PathankotAttack toll: 10 defence personnel killed in the attack (6 DSC guards, 2 IAF personnel & 2 IAF Garud commandos).
Shiv AroorVerified accountPrem Kumar wrote:Whoa - where did you get 10 from??
So far 4 terrorists dead and 10 of our armed forces personnel.Jhujar wrote:Shiv AroorVerified accountPrem Kumar wrote:Whoa - where did you get 10 from??
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Terrible #PathankotAttack toll: 10 defence personnel killed in the attack (6 DSC guards, 2 IAF personnel & 2 IAF Garud commandos).
No, I didn't mean it that way. I'll explain what I meant. If you want to take a revenge, will you go in prepared or unprepared into your enemy's house. Will you simply run into the house of your enemy without any preparation? Then, you will not really achieve anything. At best, others will come and stop the silly fight. At worst, you will get seriously injured. If you are serious about revenge, then you need to cool down and prepare yourself and then go in. In short, revenge is a dish best served in cold.habal wrote:yaar what kind of yindoo bania logic is this ??johneeG wrote: The points that Dilli has to face when they have to escalate is:
- Does India want a war right now? -> social, political ramifications.
- Is India prepared for a war right now? -> Defence and economic aspects.
- Will the great powers of the world approve a war right now? -> Geo-politics.
if some rogue kills your son, murders the wife will you think of economic cost, what neighbours may think, what the guy living in biggest house of neighboirhood may think, will i be able to make a living after exacting revenge.
such thoughts come only when one sees this happen to someone else distant from us.
we spend billions building up war chest just so that we do NOT have to think like this when settling scores with rogues.
Let me comment on thisjohneeG wrote:If you want to take a revenge, will you go in prepared or unprepared into your enemy's house. Will you simply run into the house of your enemy without any preparation? Then, you will not really achieve anything. At best, others will come and stop the silly fight. At worst, you will get seriously injured. If you are serious about revenge, then you need to cool down and prepare yourself and then go in. In short, revenge is a dish best served in cold.
this is a constant process and doesn't happen only after an attack. We will know how prepared we are when we attack and you can bet no one will stop us. There will be no referees. China, USA, Russia are embroiled in bigger affairs and could well do without making any gestures of support for Pakistan. This time Pakistan is well & truly alone. You think Saudis will come to their help ?? There is nobody to help Pakistan now.I didn't mean it that way. I'll explain what I meant. If you want to take a revenge, will you go in prepared or unprepared into your enemy's house. Will you simply run into the house of your enemy without any preparation? Then, you will not really achieve anything. At best, others will come and stop the silly fight. At worst, you will get seriously injured. If you are serious, then you need to cool down and prepare yourself and then go in. In short, revenge is a dish best served in cold.
This will be the case most likely.shiv wrote:It ain't even gonna happen.
Painfully true. I am still hoping for some major retribution, chiefly because of the people at the helm- Modi and Doval. I do wonder if it is hoping to the point of foolishness.shiv wrote:It ain't even gonna happen.
Accent of Amritsar-Lahore-Gurdaspur are very similar but Bakis use way too much islamic words like inshallah, mashaalla, etc and thus it is a dead give away. Also Bakis are not that literate and it becomes quite easy to find them.by Baikul
Are accents the same across the border (assuming they were Punjabi)?
Pakistan has been sponsoring terror(or proxy-war) for 30 years now. How do you deal with Pakistan's proxy-war?shiv wrote:Let me comment on thisjohneeG wrote:If you want to take a revenge, will you go in prepared or unprepared into your enemy's house. Will you simply run into the house of your enemy without any preparation? Then, you will not really achieve anything. At best, others will come and stop the silly fight. At worst, you will get seriously injured. If you are serious about revenge, then you need to cool down and prepare yourself and then go in. In short, revenge is a dish best served in cold.
1. This is a perfectly sane, raional viewpoint
2. BRF is full of sane, rational people
3. BRF has had sane rational people who are able to make sane, rational points like this for the last 15 plus years
That means that the longer a person stays on BRF the greater the number of times he will read sane and rational viewpoints like this following every terrorist attack when Indians die.
When can we hope to stop seeing explanations and start seeing explosions on the other side?
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It ain't even gonna happen.
My simple point is that if we have to go a war, then we should go to a war after being prepared for it. And we should achieve some concrete results. It should not be something like operation parakram.ramana wrote:JohneeG please formulate your ideas clearly before posting them. Don't want fratricide.
Thanks
My post is not a counter argument but just information. No offense meant.Karan M wrote:The Punjab Police needs a severe kick up their butt. WTF, 14 hours lost and this was clearly a case of "lets not escalate things lest something comes out". This incident completely reminds me of what happened in Delhi in a moving bus. There again, the police were paid to look the other way and later it came out the cops had taken a bribe to let the bus operate.
Nobody is talking about going to war sir, all we want is a response. The former is for another discussion. You mean we should accept causalities like this in 100s for the next decade?Jhujar wrote:IMHO, We should not to to war for another decade or so as we need to hold all the cards, not even one small tiny loophole left unplugged before we cut them down for good. India must have at least 600 strategic weapons in reserved for Paki pasand bandars to deter them and then go on cleaning the filth out of south asia.This current terror attack can be avenged by taking their navy ship or ERIEye down.
Let's bomb some camps and then say we look forward to the upcoming meeting of foreign secretaries.Neela wrote:Indian retaliation and peace talks MUST go together. Pakistan is invested in the peace process. So Indian attacks on mil-jihadi infrastructure must be seen as India,s firm commitment to the uninterruptible peace process. We are after all the same people.
I am going to keep strong internal security and covert ops as out - those are a given need.shiv wrote:Let me comment on thisjohneeG wrote:If you want to take a revenge, will you go in prepared or unprepared into your enemy's house. Will you simply run into the house of your enemy without any preparation? Then, you will not really achieve anything. At best, others will come and stop the silly fight. At worst, you will get seriously injured. If you are serious about revenge, then you need to cool down and prepare yourself and then go in. In short, revenge is a dish best served in cold.
1. This is a perfectly sane, raional viewpoint
2. BRF is full of sane, rational people
3. BRF has had sane rational people who are able to make sane, rational points like this for the last 15 plus years
That means that the longer a person stays on BRF the greater the number of times he will read sane and rational viewpoints like this following every terrorist attack when Indians die.
When can we hope to stop seeing explanations and start seeing explosions on the other side?
or
It ain't even gonna happen.
From the article:Raja Bose wrote:NSG lost its highest ranking officer in an operation - Lt Col Niranjan Kumar.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pathank ... 423958.cms
What a waste of a warrior's life. RIPMeanwhile, in the seventh casualty among the security forces, Lt Col Niranjan of the National Security Guard died in hospital on Sunday morning. He was injured in an IED blast while retrieving the body of a terrorist.
That is to say, Pakis would have been super oblivious like Shit on Cake.SBajwa wrote:Accent of Amritsar-Lahore-Gurdaspur are very similar but Bakis use way too much islamic words like inshallah, mashaalla, etc and thus it is a dead give away. Also Bakis are not that literate and it becomes quite easy to find them.by Baikul
Are accents the same across the border (assuming they were Punjabi)?
Now Accent of Bahawalpur, Multan is called Jhangi which is very different and is a mixture of Punjabi-Rajasthani Hindi-Sindhi. Only older generations of Indians that migrated from this area speak in Jhanji accent (very few in India).
Almost all the local border action is done by Army officers on ground at their own risk. No credit to 56 inch.Aditya G wrote:As per India Border Watch thread, local LoC commanders regularly, if not routinely, take Covert and Surgical punitive actions against Pak Army proper. These remain covert as neither side publicizes it. Surely a similar action such as this can be taken?
Alternatively, we may fight back for Point 5533 etc and Pigeon can inform his counterpart that this was retribution for Pathankot attack.
We should keep targets identified, and every time there is jehadi attack claim one item of the list as excuse.
It amazes me how the media is saying that vital assets weren't lost. These soldiers are vital. I would be happy trading a few hardware to get all these officers and professionals back. They cannot be fodder for Drugged up jihadis on a 72houri mission to paradise.Karthik S wrote:From the article:Raja Bose wrote:NSG lost its highest ranking officer in an operation - Lt Col Niranjan Kumar.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pathank ... 423958.cmsWhat a waste of a warrior's life. RIPMeanwhile, in the seventh casualty among the security forces, Lt Col Niranjan of the National Security Guard died in hospital on Sunday morning. He was injured in an IED blast while retrieving the body of a terrorist.
Where and when did he take credit for it ?Gyan wrote:Almost all the local border action is done by Army officers on ground as their own risk. No credit to 56 inch.Aditya G wrote:As per India Border Watch thread, local LoC commanders regularly, if not routinely, take Covert and Surgical punitive actions against Pak Army proper. These remain covert as neither side publicizes it. Surely a similar action such as this can be taken?
Alternatively, we may fight back for Point 5533 etc and Pigeon can inform his counterpart that this was retribution for Pathankot attack.
We should keep targets identified, and every time there is jehadi attack claim one item of the list as excuse.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Looking at his photo i would have been honored to have met him and buy a couple of drinks. Gursewak ji, I am sure your supreme sacrifice and that of the five DSC personnel will not go unavenged. Condolences to the families of those who got martyred.Prasad wrote:Gursewak Singh https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/683372741546778624Raja Bose wrote:Has the Garud been identified? Was he part of the QRT when he was KIA?