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From TV news:

Possible Punjab Police cock up leading to some delay but security forces were alerted

1. Yesterday 9 AM a police SP was abducted by 5 men in army uniforms. Later released
2. By 10 AM the driver of a second car (taxi) was killed by 5 men. Civilians alleged terror attack. Police denied
3. 11 AM driver body found. Civilians start protest demanding that a terror alert be instituted.
4. Belatedly a terror alert goes out and security beefed up in Pathankot region
5. 3 AM today Air Base attack starts - 16 -17 hours after death of taxi driver and 5 men having been seens
6. By 9 AM - 4 attackers dead. Search continues for 5th based on reports of 5 men
7. Modus operandi same as Gurdaspur
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An attack on vital military installation was only a matter of time, after the spectacular success enjoyed by jehadis in Pak.

List of attacks on IAF Airbases or civvie airports in India:

1. 1994 Jan: HM kills 9 IAF personnel on an attack on radar installation in Zadoora, near Srinagar.

2. 2001 Jan: Six fidayeen attack Srinagar airport. 11 dead.

3. 2001 Oct: Four fidayeen attack Awantipora airbase. 6 dead.

4. 2004 Nov: Ulfa militants exploded an IED near an IAF base in Jorhat district damaging an ubused signal tower.

5. 2016 Jan: Pathankot

Source: own records

The 2001 attacks were directly responsible for creation of Garud Commando Force. Much like 26/11 lead to creation of Navy's SPB. Garuds should be proud that today they finally got to meet the terrorist challenge head on. Lets hope we get the complete details.

Some pics will be nice.
RoyG wrote:I don't recall an airbase ever being hit by jihadis before. Perhaps they are pushing the envelope to see how we respond.
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Thank You Aditya G. That list looks comprehensive.

On a slightly different note, not just IAF bases but attacks on all military installations need to be considered while assessing such terror attacks. IIRC, the first trigger to Op Parakram was the attack on Army Base in Kaluchak, Jammu.
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NDTV Verified account
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Four calls were made from Pathankot to Pakistan between 12:30 am to 2.00 pm, conversations in Punjabi and Multani
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If JeM is proved to be involved, can we use real time sateklite and HUMINT to lob couple of Prithvis or Brahmos to take out Masood Azar?

Forgive a not very well informed civilian like me wondering why we should not immediately after launching the missile use the hotline to communicate to Sharif and a public statement that we launched punitive strikes on the terrorists responsible for the attack.
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Fact of the matter is our war fighting capability in terms of imposing our aggression on enemy for repeated terror attack is quite limited, specifically our war fighting reserve to fight prolong war or even limited conflict on the scale of Kargil is highly troublesome. Heck even recent CAG report has reported we are awefully short of even basic bullet proof jackets, basics of basic a long range artillery gun is out of scope.

No offence, but since Kargil war we have shown our skills in only Producing BluePrints of Weapon Making skills rather then actual weapon system. To settle the score against this kind of perfidy we need to put resources in place and create favourable ecosystem. Am not saying we are incapable of anything but cost escalation, mismanagement, Tender Raj and unwillingness to take bold decisions has taken immence toll on our Defence and more so on Offence.

I dare say, unless we do not get our house in order with single objective of teaching enemy a lesson, we should be ready for hundreads of such terror attack.
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Bihanga-ji, i am not denying that material gaps exist in our capacity to engage in long or medium term conventional war. However, i believe Pukistan is in an even worse shape. We should not preclude ourselves from required punitive strikes just because we may not have the perfect arsennel. It is a relative world out there and i believe this scenario would have been very extensively war gamed.
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shiv wrote:From TV news:

Possible Punjab Police cock up leading to some delay but security forces were alerted

1. Yesterday 9 AM a police SP was abducted by 5 men in army uniforms. Later released
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I've not been watching the news that closely, but I am very interested in this event, and what transpired after his release. Did the SP continue to think that the kidnappers were IA? Did he have any reason to think they were not Indian? Are accents the same across the border (assuming they were Punjabi)? How did the police force react? What red flags were raised when an SP of police gets kidnapped?
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^^ They took SP's phone and used it to talk to people in Pakistan. Those calls were intercepted...and NSG was flown to Pathankot...and security of the base was tightened.
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And some idiots leaked all that, so next time around even that loophole will be covered..
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5th terrorist killed -- Aaaj Tuk news
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So this was a deep state counter to Modi-Nawaz/support for civilian govt. As I said, the ISI-Pak mil-jihadi nexus needs to be targeted head on.

http://www.india.com/news/india/pathank ... 30-829788/
Pathankot, January 2: Speculations about the identity of the six gunmen who attacked an air force base in Punjab’s Pathankot have begun and it is being suspected that all six were Fidayeen, who had entered India in December 30, 2015. India Today’s TV reports have quoted sources, saying that the main aim of the terrorists was to blow up an aircraft, causing huge damage to the air force base. However, none of these claims have been confirmed by any government intelligence official.

The claims are based on rumours that Pakistani Intelligence Agency ISI met members of terror groups Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiyabba and Hizbul Mujahiddeen. ISI is suspected to have plotted the attack which resulted in the death of three Indian Army personnel, early on Saturday. The plan was to destroy the airships MIG 21 stationed at the IAF base in Pathankot. India Today also claimed that the attackers were trained for 15 days at LeT camps at Bhawalpur before they infiltrated the border at Jammu on December 30. Also Read: ISI plotted Pathankot attack: Pakistan Intelligence met Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad to plan assault on India
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One brahmos, coordinated with eyes on ground, is all that it takes to wipe out the terrorist leadership. We have the perfect weapon for a surgical strike, but no balls. Pakistan is in no position to escalate.
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Damini McNaught may be the intell source behind this attack :roll:

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 317_1.html
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Metropolitan Magistrate Dheeraj Mittal allowed the custodial interrogation of Ranjith KK till January 4 after Delhi Police said that during his earlier questioning, he had made a lot of disclosures and revelations in connection with the Pathankot terror attack.

The dismissed Air Force official allegedly shared secret information with intelligence operatives suspected to be backed by Pakistan's ISI after being "honeytrapped" into an espionage racket.

Ranjith KK, a Leading aircraft man with the Indian Air Force posted at Bhatinda, was dismissed recently and later arrested after a combined operation by Delhi Police's Crime Branch, Military Intelligence and Air Force Liaisoning Unit (LU).

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Exactly the pattern. Many of us had predicted that a terror attack was coming soon after Lahore visit. So the visit did cause hurt at right place. Porki army's handi work yet again.

As I see that naPak army / ISI have realized that carrying out yet another maritime attack shall result in disaster (just like the boat episodes off Gujarat coast) hence pigs are being sent right across the border. Clearly terrorist capabilities in hinterland of desh is down to a level that such attacks cannot be carried out (silver lining in this dark cloud for which kudos to Indian police/ army/ intelligence).

As I believe another attack shall happen and this time it shall be on a softer target. Time for all Indians to be alert.

Perhaps we should start the practice of embalming the bodies of these piglets in pork fat and display them on chowks. Atleast this will ensure no imaginary jannat to ba$tards.
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With Thermal Imaging, Air Force Detected Pathankot Terrorists In Pitch Dark
Pathankot: The terrorists who infiltrated the Indian Air Force base in Pathankot after 3 am in pitch-dark conditions were first detected by either Unmanned Aerial Vehicles or Mi-35 attack helicopters.

In a statement, the Air Force has revealed that "a group of terrorists were detected by the aerial surveillance platforms as soon as they entered the Air Force Station at Pathankot".

"The infiltrators were immediately engaged and contained within a limited area, thus preventing them from entering the Technical zone where high value assets are parked," the IAF said in a statement.

Pathankot is known to be an Indian Air Force MiG-21 'Bison' fighter and Mi-35 attack helicopter base.

Indian Armed Forces operate Israeli built Heron and Searcher Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) both of which are fitted with extremely sensitive thermal devices which can pick up the movement of infiltrators based on heat signatures that their bodies generate.


Indian Armed Forces operate Israeli built Heron and Searcher Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs).
The air base's own Mi-35 choppers have also been upgraded with Israeli-built thermal imaging systems which can also track the movement of people even in zero light conditions.

According to the Indian Air Force, the Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief Western Air Command has been on-location at the air base working closely with the Army, National Security Guard and other agencies fighting the terror attack.

The operation to neutralise the terrorists, four of whom have been killed, is being led by an Army Brigadier.

With intelligence reports indicating that an attack on the air base was imminent, a special team of the National Security Guard along with teams of the Army's Special Forces were moved to Pathankot last night.

They were supported by four infantry columns with 25-30 men each who are providing perimeter defence in the encounter which continues.
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Despite all the intelligence, early detection and advance warning as being claimed in a slew of articles posted here, the terrorists managed to enter the heavily guarded airbase, engage the security personnel for a long time and the operation resulted in 3 of our casualties.

Where could our forces have done better?
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Response should be two fold...

Attack on saeed/masood organizations
Attack on paf hardware.
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element of surprise has its own advantages... i think if there is going to be some retribution it will happen in 2018-19 time frame... in time for next elections..time to build up the capabilities. no knee jerk reaction but a solid determination to give a proper response.
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Such sensitive bases like Pathankot does not seem to have general issue thermal imagers with Security, Guard and QR teams.
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Some tactical information now available. It should tell Pakis the futility of attacking a full fledged military air base. Jehadis come in, they get shot. Everything back to normal* These attacks allow armed forces to bring to bear the full weight of their capabilities.

I am recalling some recent attacks on military installations from the top of my head;

- Attack on Western Command armour regiment in Jammu. They almost ran over the jehadi with a T-72 but ultimately was put down by a couple of 125mm rounds once holed up in a corner IIRC.

- Attack on Army camp in valley which had some interesting looking hangars, SF was brought in.

- This bunch in Pathankot had UAVs, Akbars, NSG, Garud Cdos, Army with Casspirs, PP SWAT and more hunting for their a$$ - what chance did they have?

Navy is also quite prepared with SPB whose FICs can do 45 knots. Any for anything worst there are MARCOS in 3 locations.

*My prayers and thoughts to men who were injured, or lost their lives and their families.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... on-intell/
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“Intelligence inputs had been available of a likely attempt by terrorists to infiltrate into the military installation in Pathankot area. In response, preparatory actions had been taken by the Indian Air Force (IAF) to thwart any such attempt,” it said.

IAF added that due to the effective preparation and coordinated efforts by all the security agencies a group of terrorists were detected by the aerial surveillance platforms as soon as they entered the Air Force Station at Pathankot.

“The infiltrators were immediately engaged and contained within a limited area, thus preventing them from entering the Technical zone where high value assets are parked. “Through timely and prompt action by all agencies, the likely plan of the terrorists to destroy valuable assets of the Air Force has been foiled,” it said.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/the-path ... ed-1261501
ATHANKOT: The security agencies had intercepted a number of phone calls late on Friday night, which set alarm bells ringing. It appeared that a group of terrorists were planning to launch an attack at Punjab's Pathankot.

Of the four calls made, three were to handlers in Pakistan, in which the terrorists reported the assault made on a senior police officer in Punjab. In the fourth, an attacker was heard calling his mother, sources said.

On Thursday, the men, dressed in army fatigues, had hijacked the official vehicle of the police officer in Pathankot.

They had assaulted the officer, pushed him off the car and took away his cellphone. Later, they used his cellphone to contact their handlers in Punjab, sources said.

The handlers were heard asking the men why they "let off" the Superintendent of Police.

Security personnel stand guard next to a barricade outside the Indian Air Force (IAF) base at Pathankot in Punjab. (Reuters Photo)

The intercepts triggered a whirlwind of activity - a warning was issued and National Security Advisor Ajit Doval held a meeting with security officials.

Following orders from the Prime Minister's Office, teams from the National Security Guard, Special Forces of the Indian Army and additional soldiers were moved to various installations at Pathankot.

But notwithstanding the protective measures, the terrorists struck at 3.30 am. The gunbattle, which carried on well-past mid-day claimed the lives of two Air Force personal and one Garuda commando.

Given the advanced information, the terrorists were contained within the periphery of the air base. The army's Casspir armoured personnel carriers were used to close in on the administrative block of the air base, where the terrorists were holed up.

Four terrorists have been killed but a few more are surviving. The operation is still on at the air base.

The men, sources said, had infiltrated just hours before, sources have told NDTV. They had, in all likelihood, crossed into India from the unfenced section of the international border and proceeded towards Punjab, the sources said. Story First Published: January 02, 2016 15:01 IST
Once dust settles on this attack, it will be worthwhile for our security regime to evaluate and structure our CT response forces into a RACI matrix of sorts. For example;

Scenario 1: military airbase: Garud Cdo Force, escalation to NSG
Scenario 2: naval installation: SPB, escalation to MARCOS
Scenario 3: offshore oil: MARCOS
Scenario 4: civvie airport: NSG
Scenario 5: army station Para (SF)
etc

Previously NSG was the only recourse to any severe jehadi strike (ref: Akshardham attack). But now local Police departments have built up capability, and military SFs have a high CT focus.
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Gyan wrote:Such sensitive bases like Pathankot does not seem to have general issue thermal imagers with Security, Guard and QR teams.
Post 26/11, there seems to be definite progress - sometimes sustained and persistent and sometimes in fits and sometimes in two steps forward and one step backwards manner. Few things stand out to even a casual civilian observer.

1. Better mechanisms and co-ordination among various forces. From intelligence sharing to operational co-ordination, 2016 is orders of magnitude better than 2001.

2. There has been significant increase (both qualitatively and quantitatively) in numbers, capabilities, training and methodology of special operations forces from police commandos to increased NSG stationed near every major city to special commando forces of various wings of the tri-services.

3. Critical gaps that could be exploited by terrorists such as lack of bullet proof vests, thermal imaging / night vision devices, drones for sustained aerial surveillance, robotic surveillance equipment, are systematically being addressed. There may still be some gaps but it seems with every attack, our perimeter defense is getting better and better. Gone are the days when few yahoos with simple assault weapons and hand grenades can threaten the parliament. Now they cannot even successfully mount an attack on a police station in Punjab. Every shopping mall, every major place of worship and star hotels now follow minimal safety precautions and security checks.

4. The ELINT (Electronic Intelligence) seems to have substantially increased. One is not very sure about any improvements to HUMIT (Human Intelligence). There seems to be a perceived drop in HUMINT amongst NE tribals and radicalized ghettos in India, but one hears from time to time that our HUMIT across the border seems to be getting better especially after Doval.

Late B.V. Raman used to insist often in his columns on the need to improve perimeter security across all vital installations and improve the capability and training of the beat cop - the most important force in any sustainable counter insurgency operation. While we seem to have made definite improvement in perimeter security, there is no evidence that the capabilities and training of beat cops across the country has been improved noticeably.

IMHO, the two areas we can focus next are (1) improved professionalism of all our defense forces, especially that of the local police and fire departments and (2) Ability to handle infiltration or attack using lesser head count. We seem to be using a strategy of saturation by letting any area under threat swarm with hundreds of defense personnel, which might actually increase the chance of casualty on our side when faced against small groups of heavily armed terrorists.

Added later:

The above post focuses only on our passive defensive preparedness and not other notions such as offensive defense or offense. They are more strategic and any tactical developments there are often not in the public domain.
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Fmr RAW officer on TV.

We have lots of Intel inputs. We need to connect the dots. Says that is Punjab is sorted - Pakistan will be sorted

Others on TV - fmr diplomats say "Why talk?. We can act.

Many voices: "No point talking to Pakistan"

Maroof Raza: Attack on forces compels them to maintain very high security leading to loss of concentration on other duties and decrease in morale

Modiji - what are you going to do? You are talking like a wimp today and I am astounded to agree with Sagarika Ghose on Twitter saying "So India and Pakistan agree that enemies of humanity attacked us"
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https://twitter.com/TheAsianAgeNews/sta ... 7121745921
Terrorists were heavily armed. GPS sets, AK 47S, UBGLs, grenades and 52mm mortars recovered: Sources on #Pathankot attack
Mortars! These are special forces attacks on India
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Why did the sh1ts not kill the SP? They had no problem killing a taxi driver later. Why did they use the SP's phone to call Pakistan? There have to be clear reasons and orders behind both - maybe the second one was a break in discipline (sh1ts called their mommas) but the first makes no sense at all. Didn't use the guy as a hostage, even. The poor SP is facing extreme grilling, I am sure.

Also, it sounds like the 'aerial platforms' detected the entry of the sh1ts, so that ruined plans for any major attack on aircraft and facilities. Otherwise the whole conduct of the attack makes no sense.
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UlanBatori wrote:Why did the sh1ts not kill the SP? They had no problem killing a taxi driver later. Why did they use the SP's phone to call Pakistan? There have to be clear reasons and orders behind both - maybe the second one was a break in discipline (sh1ts called their mommas) but the first makes no sense at all. Didn't use the guy as a hostage, even. The poor SP is facing extreme grilling, I am sure.
The news that I posted has not yet hit the general news media - it was aa single reporter of either NewsX or India Today who said that the DG police initially dismissed public alerts saying that there was no connection between the earlier kidnap of SP and later murder of a taxi driver by five men in army uniform. If this is true - it is huge, Who the fuk was the SP who was kidnapped?

There were later public protests and those protests stopped only after the police (reluctantly?) agreed to treat the taxi driver murder as a terror incident. The mind fuken boggles.
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I've been thinking - we're talking asymmetric responses right, doing stuff that keeps Pakistan off balance?

How about Modi visiting Pakistan again and saying hello to Sharif again? Not sure what the end result would be but it sure as $hit is the one response I 100% believe they won't expect. Maybe, and we'll 100% need to control the narrative, we can build a CT out of it.

Simultaneously we can indulge in our usual range of responses, from buggering them on the LOC to lighting 'em up in Karachi and Isloo and B'lochistan and all the areas they hold illegally from Afghanistan over the next few years.
UlanBatori wrote:Why did the sh1ts not kill the SP? They had no problem killing a taxi driver later. Why did they use the SP's phone to call Pakistan? There have to be clear reasons and orders behind both - maybe the second one was a break in discipline (sh1ts called their mommas) but the first makes no sense at all. Didn't use the guy as a hostage, even. The poor SP is facing extreme grilling, I am sure.

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Bang on. I've asked similar (not the same) questions in another thread, as the SP's role in all of this will, IMO, be very closely questioned.
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you fight with spies before an attack could happen.
you fight with soldiers during an attack.
you can fight with media after neutralising the attack to prevent future attacks.
all 3 pieces have been severely compromised during UPA rule.
we are seeing improvement in the first 2. but not in terms of media. they are still outright anti nationals.

this third arm could be useful to publish the following details and run it 24/7. ,
the pictures of the dead terrorist turds,
find details of them whereabouts etc
cremate their bodies to deny their 72 raisins.
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Seems like the anti-terrorist operation concluded? Tweet from Rajnath Singh, Home Minister.
"I congratulate our armed forces and other security forces on successfully neutralising all the five terrorists in 'Pathankot Operation'," Home Minister Rajnath Singh tweeted after about 16-hour-long operation.
per link

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/520 ... ase-3.html

This suggests that 5 terrorists infiltrated and attacked the base.
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https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/683296792608260096
Fateh Singh, who made the supreme sacrifice guarding the Pathankot Air Force base today. RIP Brave.
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https://twitter.com/manupubby_ET/status ... 6168559616
Strong indications that Pathankot attack may have been much deadlier than previously thought. Own casualties high.
Up to 5 DSC guards may have fallen...lots of speculation going on.
Sources on the ground: Five DSC guards and one Garud commando killed were all at the entry point at Pathankot base. No fatal casualty later.
Getting valiant accounts of the NSG, Army soldiers in Pathankot. Six injured in grenade attack got first aid, went back to ops.
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Something odd on the issue of SP.

Also with huge huge advance warning, 3 of our persons got killed and some terrorists still on loose. This shows a major hole in our night fighting capability. Hundreds of such attacks will be carried out every night in an actual war. What then?

Were our martyered personnel even wearing BPJs considering no order is being placed due to overboard specifications demanded for them by Army? My Suggest:- Cancel 4 Talwars and instead order 300,000 thermal imagers, over next 5 years.
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SP role is curious. What are the chances that both in Mumbai and in Patahankot, you hijack a random taxi and it happens to be a top IPS officer? It is not that you have IPS officer living on each street in India, in fact you may have less SPs in India than you have MPs.
Thanks,
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SP means he is the top cop of that particular district. And in this case a vital sensitive border district at that.
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i dont think SP role is suspicious..the turds would be waitin to hijack a official car with red beacon etc..the police cars are most common..hijacking a police car enables them to move around easily... but what beats me they didnt try to trace the missing vehicle?? what did the SP tell the police abt the kidnapping and hijack of his car?
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Per Manu Pubby, our causality occurred at the entry point and majority are DSC personnel.

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/683294134979825664
Kulwant Singh, who made the supreme sacrifice guarding the Pathankot Air Force base today. RIP Brave.
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shiv wrote:https://twitter.com/TheAsianAgeNews/sta ... 7121745921
Terrorists were heavily armed. GPS sets, AK 47S, UBGLs, grenades and 52mm mortars recovered: Sources on #Pathankot attack
Mortars! These are special forces attacks on India
Wouldn't they have used the mortars on the technical area before storming in?

That's heavy kit to infiltrate with... Very likely there are caches that the Pigs have seeded in various places.

Or maybe there is a tunnel.
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Was the SP in uniform when kidnapped? Did the terrorists know his identity or just chanced on him? Why let a high value target go instead of holding him hostage? They did not carry a cell phone and had to use SP's phone? Did they not know it would be intercepted?
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you have to investigate role of SP of border district in drugs smuggling and facilitation. As is known drugs come in via pakistan and drugs route is used by terrorists as well.
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India needs to respond. The price for using non state actors by one branch of Pakistani government (PA/ISI) to undo peace overtures should be set very high. Peace talks with elected representatives should continue but temperatures should be raised up to full scale war. An attack on ISI HQ with missiles, cold mob of forces to border, Perhaps a visit to PAF by Sukhois destroying Sargodha.

India needs to stop behaving like a puppet of foreign powers - sit down and sulk in a corner because of friends telling it that if it did something then spares for her shiny, imported toys would not be available.
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