India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

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ramana wrote:
shiv wrote:What if, to escape international censure. Pakis set off bombs in their cities and then pre-emptively attack India, blaming India for the attacks

Adolph Hitler started World War II with similar ruse by having his troops dressed as Polish troops attack a German Radio Station.

That was is version of Hudabaya.
Get those S-400s already!
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shiv wrote:Heard from one more source today that there was some retaliation within hours of Uri. No confirmation. Happy to hear that but also feel like college boy sitting in library looking at pretty girl for 3 hours and then goes back saying "Ah well - I think she looked at me once, when I was looking away"
Got as good a confirmation as I could about this from an insider. When asked about why didn't we publicise, he referred me to read into Modi's speech :?:
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RoyG wrote:
prahaar wrote:RoyG, what has Pakistan achieved with their current strategy? They achieved far greater progress while using Indus water and preparing for war.
Preparing for war? They are preparing to put revolutions in their own country down. Not fight us.

India is following a very gradual escalation from the bottom of the conflict spectrum.

It starts by diplomatic isolation, revisiting treaties, cutting off "cultural exchanges", establishing friendly ties w/ disenfranchised groups and hostile neighbors etc.

Next India will act through the Pashtuns in a big way. Get them to do the fighting. 20% of PA regulars are Pashtun. At some point these guys will be knocking on the doors of Punjab. That's when the fun will start.

People in PoK are already scared that these people will brutalize their population. They want out just as much as the Balochis and they will need an Indian security umbrella. They know the Chinese and Afghans will rip them apart. They have no mercy. They can get crumbs from Pakistan gov but they will get nothing from the other two.

Pakistan's strategy is India addiction. No consequences can change that I am afraid.
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Addictions can lead to some nasty health effects. Survive or perish. PA is no diff.

These Pakjabis are going to get gobbled up.

I know why these people went the tactical nuke route. It's not to hammer Indian formations but to protect from Punjab from the hordes of pissed off people that will besiege Punjab. I'm serious. 1-5 kt going off over some Balochistan, Sindh, and other adjoining provinces isn't going to piss of anyone around the world. They'll use it to hold the border and broker a cease fire.

In the next 6-12 months things are going to go from bad to worse. Watch for big punjabi industrialists and narcotics traffickers leaving the country and settling in Europe and Canada.
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Rudradev wrote:It's to increase defense preparedness, because MAD have gamed that Pakistani adventurism (against our diplomatic retaliation in SAARC and with the IWT) may goad them to up the ante through conventional means.
RD: I think you underestimate the degree of fear the Pakistani forces have of the Indian military. Their boasts and chutiyapanti of TNW is in lieu of this fear of a conventional attack on them. They are in NO position to "up the ante" through conventional means. At best, some very targeted surprise attacks is ALL they can pull off.

The need of the hour is a strike on Pakistan military forces, which should have materialized by now. If all this talk of IWT, SAARC, UN tamasha is in lieu of this needed strike, we will see. Time will tell, if Modi has acted like a bania, a kshatriya or will prove to be a chanakian.
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ShauryaT wrote: Time will tell, if Modi has acted like a bania, a kshatriya or will prove to be a chanakian.
..or as a chaiwaala

You speak as if all these traits are supposed to be mutually exclusive.
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Rediff has this snippet. Must mean some credible near-term plan of action is underway and has uncle worried!
The United States has asked India not to escalate the situation with Pakistan even as New Delhi explores a range of diplomatic options to isolate Islamabad. It has been reported that US Secretary of State John Kerry has had two conversations over the last two days with External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on this issue. Swaraj was in New York for the United Nations General Assembly where she made a speech Monday, targeting Pakistan.

This is the first time that the US has spoken to the Indian leadership at a senior political level after the Uri attack, sources said.

These conversations, sources said, happened in the backdrop of India and Pakistan raising the temperature over the last two days.
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From a tactical, geo-political timing perspective right about this time when the US is in the middle of an election cycle, monsoons are over, at the Tibet border the enemy is NOT in a position to change things without a fight, the dangers of Islamic Jihadism is known to everyone, Pakistan standing with the US and even in the OIC is at a low point - the time to strike and get some salami slice and damage to men and materials of the Pakistan armed forces could not have been better.
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Dumal wrote:Rediff has this snippet. Must mean some credible near-term plan of action is underway and has uncle worried!
The United States has asked India not to escalate the situation with Pakistan even as New Delhi explores a range of diplomatic options to isolate Islamabad. It has been reported that US Secretary of State John Kerry has had two conversations over the last two days with External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on this issue. Swaraj was in New York for the United Nations General Assembly where she made a speech Monday, targeting Pakistan.

This is the first time that the US has spoken to the Indian leadership at a senior political level after the Uri attack, sources said.

These conversations, sources said, happened in the backdrop of India and Pakistan raising the temperature over the last two days.
This is what happens when you delay retaliating. Even with non military options, pray tell me why announce what you plan to do? Today's news - "India considers cutting off aviation ties with Pakistan?". Why announce you are considering? Just do it and do a press release else stay silent and do nothing.

For the next attack, have a range of military and non military options ready to be exercised within a short notice of 24 to 48 hrs. Shock the Pakis and their friends with quick response. Let them wake up and adjust to the new reality. Do not give friends of Pakis time to put pressure on you to go soft on Pakis.
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Dumal wrote:Rediff has this snippet. Must mean some credible near-term plan of action is underway and has uncle worried!
The United States has asked India not to escalate the situation
Unfortunately our media behave like slave labour to white sahib log and they pass the infection to their readers.

Some fellow reports that "United States has asked India not to" and that becomes the focus of attention. Massa has spoken and we must obey. Everything now falls flat and if you don't believe me let me give you a long list of events where massa spoke and we implemented. Funny that massa's assumed tut-tutting have no effect on Pakistan or China. It must be us.
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It did not require the US to tell us not to start war. Within 24 hours of Uri most of us were sure that nothing would happen and the howling had already started. So what's this about the US telling India something. What heck difference does it make? We are talking water, talks, Bollywood etc. No military action. Surely US satellites can see no mobilization. We can hear no howls from Pakistan. So what could the US be saying to us that is more important than say what Nauru may say to us? Are the media now reporting US statements so they can later (after 2 years) be used as an excuse "Oh the US wanred us and we listened"

Pardon my harping on this but as I try and improve my YouTube video skills I note that a lot of serious programs have content that can be presented in 10 minutes, but it is stretched to 1 hour by dramatic music and repeated visuals. Similarly we on BRF stretched the MMRCA discussion for a decade. This thread too is going the same way. If we can't finish talking about "retaliation options" in a couple of weeks - we are just sitting and waiting for the media to bring up idiot reports that we "discuss" on here.
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Rediff.com is a source that publishes pro-Pak articles. Every day you will find it. Even the threats issued by Paki generals will appear there. Also Indian Express has picked that news and published it. Another newspaper that is keeps publishing Pro-Pak articles was the Times of India. Dont know whether it came from Pak, U.S or some Anti-India sources or it's Rediff's own creation.
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Also note, the Times of India has gone one step ahead and posted a threat by a Paki
Pakistan defence minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif threatens to unleash nukes against India - Times of India

Is there a way to tell some of these news channels to stop publishing threats of Pakis by publishing prominently the threats of Pakis. Taking to court to something like that?
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Basically these news portals are in it to attract eyeballs and make money. They will look at the news they have and what will get reported by everyone and try and guess what people will respond to and follow. To an extent they are right because Twitter and forums like BRF have people who are coming for more and more new information even when there is nothing new. That is exactly when one of these news portals scores - by publishing non news like "LCA Tejas in Bhopal. Did not take off as expected". That news gets posted on Twitter and 100 forums. they get 2 million hits and 20,000 ad clicks and about 200 deals are done from those ad clicks.

Nothing to do with news. Everything to do with "hunger for information" and "what's breaking, other than wind"
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ON the other hand it is better that the Indian Public sees Pakistan is threatening them day in and dayout. The WKK brigade can't do thier nasty stuff if the general public is aware of the True Nature of Pakistani elite.
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Asif Aman just made a jackass of himself; I have appended his peace proclivities to his name. It scans well in English also ( as if a man).

It is imbecilic to threaten India with nuclear attack because an IWT meeting was cancelled. It takes the mad dog Paki act to a new laughable level. Even as a fantasy for the half-starved domestic audience.

GOI should continue this calibrated psychological torture of Pakistan until the adoring masses can't help but question their predicament. They will hang the generals and the jihadis from the same tree.

The key component of stress is unpredictability. Where is the next blow coming from, Baluchistan, Baltistan, Altaf Hussein, IWT, aviation privileges, cross border raids, SAARC meet. It is endless.

Watch the price of land along the course of Ravi, Beas, Sutlej as they course through Pakistan.
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I have split the thread from the news of army's strike onwards.

please continue there : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7257
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IMPPA bans Pak actors and technicians in India till 'normalcy returns'

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/entertai ... india.html

What 'normalcy'?
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http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/W ... 632832.ece

one Indian soldier captured, eight killed as per this news item
Pakistan military claimed that it has killed eight Indian soldiers and captured one while retaliating to India's firing at the first line of defence at the Line of Control (LoC) at Tatta Pani, a media report said today.

Citing security sources, Dawn newspaper said that the capture and killings occurred when the Indian army opened fire across the border, killing two Pakistani soldiers.

"The dead bodies of the Indian soldiers are still to be recovered by the Indian forces as they lay unattended at the LoC. Security sources say the Indian army has yet to recover the bodies for fear of coming under fire from Pakistan," the paper claimed.The paper identified the captured soldier as 22-year-old Chandu Babulal Chohan son of Bashan Chohan from Maharashtra. It said he has been shifted to an undisclosed location. However, there was no official word on the report.

A Pakistan army statement said "an exchange of fire between Pakistani and Indian LoC troops began at 2:30am and continued till 8:00am in the Bhimber, Hotspring, Kel and Lipa sectors" and added that "Pakistani troops befittingly responded to Indian unprovoked firing on the LoC."
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Arre bhai this is the *DAWN* report being quoted.
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pankajs wrote:Arre bhai this is the *DAWN* report being quoted.
Didn't PTI and shiv aroor confirm that one soldier walked over LOC....

my question, how come only 1? don't they patrol in groups... will require more information whether it is fake or real.
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Did they confirm the 8 kills claimed by Bakis? A better source would have been the PTI based report.
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where did all the posts earlier in the day go? Feel sad for the 37 R soldier.
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Rahul M wrote:I have split the thread from the news of army's strike onwards.

please continue there :
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7257
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RoyG wrote:Addictions can lead to some nasty health effects. Survive or perish. PA is no diff.

These Pakjabis are going to get gobbled up.

I know why these people went the tactical nuke route. It's not to hammer Indian formations but to protect from Punjab from the hordes of pissed off people that will besiege Punjab. I'm serious. 1-5 kt going off over some Balochistan, Sindh, and other adjoining provinces isn't going to piss of anyone around the world. They'll use it to hold the border and broker a cease fire.

In the next 6-12 months things are going to go from bad to worse. Watch for big punjabi industrialists and narcotics traffickers leaving the country and settling in Europe and Canada.
Sir you are drawing a picture of a nuclear civil war. In Pakistan. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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No soldier captured. Pakistan Army denies.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1190903/pak ... along-loc/
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TV ticker tape news Times Now

Our DGMO seems to have reported to the paki DGMO that an Indian soldier with arms has inadvertently crossed over the LOC to the paki side.

let's wait and see.

That bald paki banshee, who comes often on ornob's show was also boasting about it. Said that the soldier's name was something chauhan(?).
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chetak wrote:TV ticker tape news Times Now

Our DGMO seems to have reported to the paki DGMO that an Indian soldier with arms has inadvertently crossed over the LOC to the paki side.

let's wait and see.

That bald paki banshee, who comes often on ornob's show was also boasting about it. Said that the soldier's name was something chauhan(?).
Man that's some bad luck. I think this guy was abducted. Is this the same fake dude Babulal or something?
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Reuters


Official trade between India and Pakistan was a modest $2.6 billion in 2014, but informal trade is estimated to be closer to $5 billion, with jewelry, textiles and machinery exported from India through third-country ports such as Dubai.

India's informal imports from Pakistan through the same channels consist of textiles, dry fruits, spices and cement.

Indian security planners said a crackdown on such trade, in which some former members of Pakistan's powerful military are believed to be active, would help increase the pressure.

The head of Pakistan's Board of Investment, Miftah Ismail, said sanctions had usually not worked elsewhere in the world.

He said there was little trade between the two countries, and since much of it was in India's favor, any restrictions would affect India more than Pakistan.

"If India does (go ahead with economic sanctions), Pakistan will somehow react, and we will further impoverish the people in both countries," said Ismail, who is also a special assistant to the Pakistan prime minister.

"I don't see anything good coming out of this."
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http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/with-strike ... eststories

India did well by having a surgical strike across the Line of Control and taking out terrorists who had gathered there to launch attacks against Indian citizens. For the first time, a government has stood up and said very clearly they will go in hot pursuit to areas where terrorists are gathered and take them out - and they have done it very boldly. For the last 30 years, the government of India has failed to carry out its constitutional duty of protecting the lives and property of its citizens from attack by a terrorist state which is a neighbour and sends jihadi terrorists across the border to attack Indian citizens. Pakistan lives today in a state of denial, full of conspiracy theories. Its army treats India as an enemy nation and this doctrine is at the core of its existence.

For the last 30 years, the government of India has been speaking to Pakistan and Pakistan has made it very, very clear that it wants Kashmir at all costs and Kashmir remains the core issue. And to get Kashmir, they make sure that they have terrorists (who they call "good" terrorists) in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir and send them across the border. Openly, in Pakistan, elements like Hafiz Sayeed and Syed Salahuddin go around to raise money to fund these terrorists and they have camps that train them. It is well known that the Pakistani army is involved in training these people and many Pakistani generals have gone on record that they justify the use of non-state actors in terrorist activities against its neighbour.

It is very clear that 30 years of talking to Pakistan has not stopped terrorism. All we got in return for our talks has been more killing and more violence. India taking the high moral ground has met with utter disdain and terrorism. Finally after trying all peaceful means, our PM ordered, after Uri, that the Indian army must go and strike the targets across the border in hot pursuit which is legally acceptable under international law.

There are many people in the country who have been saying that India should occupy a high moral ground and should not resort to retaliation whatever the provocation. India, throughout its history, has taken the high moral ground and has suffered immensely as a consequence. When Pakistan and its raiders came across the border in Kashmir in 1948, Pandit Nehru got the Indian army to push them back but stopped the advancement of the Indian army before the entire territory was reclaimed and took the case to the United Nations. And from 1948 till now, Pakistan is in occupation of territory legally acceded to India by the Maharaja of Kashmir and there has been no movement. And that single decision of Pandit Nehru of taking the high moral ground has not worked out and we have suffered tremendously. It is very clear that taking the high moral ground and protesting and talking to a country which considers us their enemy will not work - especially when the country lives in denial, when the country is controlled by an army that is inimical to you and that army treats you as its own enemy.

The world is ruled by realpolitik and not by taking the moral high ground. The history of the last 60 years has proven this and that countries taking the high moral ground will inevitably compromise with issues of national security. The United States, Europe, Soviet Russia and China are very clear in their minds that national interest overrides all considerations. The security of their territory, their people and their property is paramount. They are prepared to be offensive in case anybody threatens them and they have demonstrated this very clearly. United States took out Osama bin Laden from Abbottabad very openly and told the whole world what it had done. And Pakistan was unable to do anything - its military leaders had not even woken up when the strike was done. Even today, conspiracy theories float in Pakistan that this never happened.

Today, India has set a precedent and the precedent is very clear: India will take all steps to protect its border, its citizens and the property of its citizens. India will not accept any terrorists coming across the border from Pakistan destroying army camps and destroying property. And in case anybody comes across and Pakistan does not stop them, India will go across the border in hot pursuit and take them out as has been done.

Many people will say that this could lead to a confrontation and a war-like situation. This will not happen for a very important reason. India's action has been defensive in nature and not offensive. India has not occupied any territory across the LoC. India has acted in self defence by sending its troops to act against terrorists, and if any Pakistani soldiers were protecting those terrorists, they have been taken out. India's policy now is very clear - India has explained to the world exactly what it intends to do. The Pakistani side has been clearly exposed as a bully, a terrorist nation and a nation founded on living in denial and conspiracy theories. The Pakistani army was holding army games near Jodhpur and across the border in Rajasthan when this surgical strike took place. This strike changes the balance of power as far as the border is concerned. It is possible that tension across the border will increase, and if tension increases and if Pakistan resorts to its usual tactic of firing across the border, India should retaliate 10 times more and demonstrate that it will not accept any of these usual tactics and will give it back because the only way to handle a bully is to stand up and hit back very strongly - which India has done.

As far as the economy is concerned, the stock markets have fallen today, but all analysts across the world understand that this has no economic consequence at all. This is a normal knee jerk reaction whenever such events happen. This is a normal act by a country which is attacked by terrorists from across a border. When the United States takes any action against any country, the economy is not impacted. Our trade with Pakistan is very meagre. The world understand India. India has been a victim of terrorism, for long and public opinion and world opinion is against terrorism, especially jihadi terrorism. There is no country which will support terrorist activities today and come out in support of Pakistan. Even the Chinese who consider Pakistan to be their friend forever and ever are very apprehensive that the jihadi elements of Pakistan will go into Muslim areas of China and cause trouble.

Pakistan has to look towards its future carefully and evaluate and see if its usual strategy and tactics of sending terrorists across the border to India, making Kashmir the core issue and keeping its economy and people hostage to the sole idea of treating India like an enemy, are really relevant. This issue is no longer valid as the Prime Minister of India has said very clearly that reducing poverty, giving good quality of life to people, helping them realise their dreams is the primary responsibility of every country in South Asia. And he has challenged Pakistan to work to make sure that Pakistani citizens have a better life.

If you look at all the social indicators of Pakistan, it is very clear that they have gone backwards in time. A senior journalist said that in the 60s, the Pakistani per capita income was 65% more than India's. And today it is about 30% less than India's. It has compromised its economic future. Because of the terrorist activities of the Pakistani state, the Pakistani passport is looked at in suspicion by so many countries around the world. And many countries don't even allow Pakistanis to come in. After 60 years of treating India as an enemy and 30 years of using terrorism as a matter of state policy - it's time that Pakistani citizens re-evaluated their own future, looked at what they want their children to have and come to a conclusion about what is good for them.

The liberal voices and those voices in Pakistan who are for peace need to stand up. And in India, it is time that all the people who advocated continued dialogue with Pakistan understand that dialogue can only be with a country which is open to reason...a country which is open to dialogue...and not a country which treats you like an enemy and sends terrorists across the border to kill your citizens and lives in duplicity and self-denial.

You cannot treat that country as an equal. India taking a high moral ground and not retaliating when its citizens are killed does not work. The future for India is very, very clear. We need to be united against terrorism, speak as one voice, take defensive action. And make sure that we tell the world that India will always protect its borders, its people and the property of its citizens. It will never go on the offensive against any country, but should any country use terrorism against India, it reserves its right to retaliate and will retaliate to protect itself.

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PA top brass run almost 1/4th or more of their economy. If there are any serious problems to that, then they will be losing a lot of money. But Dubai transit transactions needed to be looked into seriously to stop that.
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shaheen foundation, fauji foundation, bahria foundation, defence housing authority and army welfare trust are the big TSPA business groups I believe. some 55b dollars annual turnover.

http://www.aljazeera.com/focus/pakistan ... mlAccessed

http://www.dawn.com/news/1272211

The projects/units being run by the AWT are:

Two stud farms in Pakpattan and Okara
Army Welfare Sugar Mills, Badin
Askari Project (shoe and woollen), Lahore
Army Welfare Mess and Blue Lagoon :roll: Restaurant, Rawalpindi
Real estate comprising three small housing schemes in Lahore, Badaber and Sangjani
Askari General Insurance Co Ltd Rawalpindi
Askari Aviation Services, Rawalpindi
MAL Pakistan Ltd Karachi
Askari Guards (Pvt) Ltd, head office (HO) in Rawalpindi
Askari Fuels (CNG) with HO in Rawalpindi
Askari Seeds, Okara
Askari Enterprises, Rawalpindi
Fauji Security Services (acquired from Fauji Foundation), HO in Rawalpindi
Askari Apparel, Lahore
Askari Lagoon, Faisalabad.

The projects/units under Fauji Foundation are:

Fauji Cereals :-? (wheat surely not rice )
Foundation Gas
Fauji Fertiliser Company Ltd
Fauji Cement Co Ltd
Fauji Oil Terminal and Distillery Co Ltd
Fauji Kabirwala Power Company Ltd
Foundation Power Co (Dharki) Ltd
Askari Cement Ltd
Askari Bank Ltd
Foundation Wind Energy (I and II) Ltd
Noon Pakistan Ltd Lahore
Fauji Meat Ltd :twisted:
Fauji Fertiliser Bin Qasim Ltd
Fauji Akbar Partia Marine Terminal Ltd, HO in Karachi.
A company under the name of Pakistan Maroc Phosphore SA was set up in Morocco by the Fauji Foundation in 2008.

Similarly, the projects, units and housing colonies under the administrative control of Shaheen Foun­dation, which is a trust of the Pakistan Air Force, are:

Shaheen Airport Services
Shaheen Aerotraders
Shaheen Knitwear
Shaheen Complex, Karachi
Shaheen Complex, Lahore
Shaheen Medical Services
Hawk Advertising
Fazaia Welfare Education School System
SAPS Aviation College
Air Eagle Aviation Academy
Shaheen Welfare Housing Scheme, Peshawar.
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through control of these outfits and grants of prime land at cheap prices, a horde of PA/PAF retd and serving brigadier / air commodore level upwards lead a luxurious lifestyle. below that I think colonels still get land but probably not a seat in these business ventures.
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Sorry to digress, but if PT 5353 is still in Paki hands we must use some glide bombs from IAF and Artillery and Kill Pakis there.
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asgkhan wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/with-strike ... eststories

(Mohandas Pai was the CFO and then the head of HR at Infosys. He is now Chairman, Aarin Capital Partners.)
Surprised to see such an opinion piece in ndtv.

Seems all channels go with the flow and has no specific agenda!
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alexis wrote:
Surprised to see such an opinion piece in ndtv.

Seems all channels go with the flow and has no specific agenda!
Not so quick my young muj !!

http://www.opindia.com/2016/09/how-the- ... st-attack/

Stage 1: Just after the terrorist attack, they will show that they are in sync with the larger consensus of the country, which is to punish those who carried out the attack. See tweets of Shekhar, Barkha, and also debates just after the attack:

Stage 2: As the days pass, people tend to forget or rather get involved with their own work and life, and this is when the intellectual mafia subtly start changing the narrative. Many minions will keep quiet during stage 1, as their opinion would invite severe criticism. Now Barkha, through her debate and others through articles and tweets will start talking about how we should show restraint and not hurt Pakistan. It is now when the minions will come out of their holes and start voicing their opinion in support of narrative being set by the likes of Barkha.

Now such minions will find themselves invited as guests on many TV shows. During stage 1, you will hardly find people in debates who will suggest restraint, because the media house was simply pandering to the national mood. In stage 2, someone like Jyoti Malhotra will now appear as an expert and talk about restraint and how a particular way of hurting Pakistan is not good. It is also the time when confused souls, like Rahul Kanwal, will follow the agenda of Barkha.

India must have wasted countless attempts at trying to please these so-called experts on such matters of foreign policy, without realising that their agenda was not in the best interest of the nation. Sooner the masks fall off such people, sooner Indians realise that they are being fed propaganda in the name of unbiased opinions.
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Now even Sri Lanka has shafted Pak ,not attending SAARC! Given SL's good relations with Pak,this is a stinging slap of disapproval.Good on you "Mangy" (SL For.Min).The age of miracles is not over,even RaGa has just praised Modiji!!
Pak truly a pariah state.
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Sri Lanka said the same after the Nepal, the chair declared it cancelled. Not before.
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Sri Lanka’s participation in the 19th SAARC Summit scheduled for November 2016 in Islamabad

Sri Lanka regrets that the prevailing environment in the region is not conducive for holding the 19th SAARC Summit in Islamabad on 9th and 10th November 2016.

The General Provisions of the SAARC Charter require that decisions at all levels shall be taken on the basis of unanimity, and this applies to the convening of meetings of Heads of State or Government of SAARC Member States as well.

Peace and security are essential elements for the success of meaningful regional cooperation for the benefit of the people of South Asia. As a founding member of SAARC, committed to regional cooperation, Sri Lanka hopes that the steps required to ensuring our region’s peace and security will be taken to create an environment that is conducive for the pursuit of regional cooperation.

Sri Lanka condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and stresses in this regard, the need to deal with the issue of terrorism in the region in a decisive manner.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Colombo
30 September 2016



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