India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby saurav_jha » 23 Sep 2016 00:35

Talks of Baloch govt. in exile with Brahmdagh Bugti as head .... Can this be true ?

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Postby Sid » 23 Sep 2016 01:26

Gagan wrote:The thing is that, Nawaz is not in the country still.
I am watching out for any signs that a military coup is taking place in Pakistan.


They don't need to and won't happen.

Nawaz learned his lesson from last time and has fallen in line with his military bosses. He might be the only PM in world who is required to call back his COS to report on status.

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Postby anupmisra » 23 Sep 2016 02:02

chetak wrote:nawaz sharif addressing the UNGA. He seems to be getting all the attention he deserves.

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Where's the baki delegation?

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Postby ramana » 23 Sep 2016 02:14

Shopping at Neiman Marcus?

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Postby Bharadwaj » 23 Sep 2016 02:47

Karthik S wrote:F-16s flying over islamabad. A twitter video showing flares. Everytime the pakis engage in this kind of theatrics.


This is where I wish we still had the foxbats or had bought some 31s. The pure fright value of flying at 60000ft and mach 2.5 over bakistan while the solahs helplessly floundered around would have been worthwhile...

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Postby Sumeet » 23 Sep 2016 02:58

Bharadwaj wrote:
Karthik S wrote:F-16s flying over islamabad. A twitter video showing flares. Everytime the pakis engage in this kind of theatrics.


This is where I wish we still had the foxbats or had bought some 31s. The pure fright value of flying at 60000ft and mach 2.5 over bakistan while the solahs helplessly floundered around would have been worthwhile...



S-400 kept somewhere between Jammu and Katra. That would enforce an automatic no fly zone from Islamabad to Lahore without TSP having to declare so. :) And only thing flying then would be Mig-31 from IAF.

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Postby SwamyG » 23 Sep 2016 03:28

Gagan wrote:
Karthik S wrote:F-16s flying over islamabad. A twitter video showing flares. Everytime the pakis engage in this kind of theatrics.

Kartik S ji
Please post a link here

Lo ji.... http://www.financialexpress.com/world-n ... VI.twitter

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Postby Karan M » 23 Sep 2016 03:34

After thinking about it. The big thing is to enforce an assassins mace concept against Pak and PRC both. Copied from the PRC. A set of unique capabilities that have devastating war winning effect disproportional to their number. The Rafale, Nirbhay, S-400, mass PGMs for AF etc fall into that bucket. Buy, stock, replenish.

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Postby nirav » 23 Sep 2016 04:34

That the bakis are firing flares over isloo indicates that even in their own air space they are flying on g@nd fateli mode .. never knowing when an Indian mijjile might show up right below their musharraf.

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Postby ramana » 23 Sep 2016 04:48

^^^
Soon they will shoot down one of their own and claim its Indian F16.

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Postby Karthik S » 23 Sep 2016 04:51

Vayu gurus, is it safe for flares to be deployed over populated cities considering the temperature these things fire upto?

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Postby salaam » 23 Sep 2016 05:03

Tank train was fake

And I connived my European boss that a India-Pakistan war is due. He was very worried about nuclear exchange. :-?

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Postby Lilo » 23 Sep 2016 06:02

Pakistan Uses A 56-Year-Old Water Treaty To Harass India But We Can Turn The Tide Anytime

Brahma Chellaney
September 18, 2016

The violence-marred water feud between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu illustrates how water stress is fuelling bitter discord between states over sharing the most vital of all natural resources. The Supreme Court intervened this year too in the Punjab-Haryana dispute in the Indus Basin over the Sutlej-Yamuna Link Canal.
The growing inter-provincial water wrangles draw attention to India's great water folly.
In 1960, it signed a treaty that allocated to an enemy state, Pakistan, most of the Indus river system waters, without any quid pro quo. The Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) reserved for India just 19.48% of the total waters of the six-river Indus system.

An emboldened Pakistan, having secured what still ranks as the world's most generous water-sharing treaty, set its sights on capturing the Indian part of Jammu and Kashmir through which the three large rivers reserved for Pakistani use by the IWT flowed.
In more recent years, Pakistan has also found novel ways to turn the IWT into a weapon against India. From waging conventional wars against India from almost the time it was created to sustaining a protracted proxy war by terror against it, Pakistan has for over a decade now been pursuing a "water war" strategy against India.
This strategy centres on repeatedly invoking the IWT's conflict-resolution provisions to "internationalise" any perceived disagreement so as to mount pressure on India.
In its latest move to corner India, Pakistan has initiated steps to haul it before a seven-member international arbitral tribunal in The Hague for pursuing two hydropower projects in J&K. Twice before in the past decade, Pakistan triggered international intercession by similarly invoking the treaty's conflict-resolution provisions.
Pakistan's strategy, coupled with its use of state-reared terrorists, could potentially force India's hand. If India begins to view the IWT as a liability and sees itself as the suffering loser, little can save the treaty.

After all, India has the option in international law to dissolve the lopsided but indefinite treaty. The Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty was also of indefinite duration but the US unilaterally withdrew from it after Russia opposed its revision.
The withdrawal option, however, cannot be exercised by a risk-averse nation.
India may be parched today but there is still no national discussion about how Pakistan is repaying India's water largesse with blood by sponsoring cross-border acts of grisly terrorism.
The water card is probably the most potent instrument India has in its arsenal - more powerful than the nuclear option, which essentially is for deterrence.
India's belated moves to address the problem of electricity shortages and underdevelopment in J&K by building modestly sized, run-of-river hydropower plants have rankled Pakistan, although the IWT permits such projects (which use a river's natural flow energy and elevation drop to produce electricity, without the need for any dam reservoir).

The treaty requires India to provide Pakistan with prior notification, including design information, of any new project. Although prior notification does not mean the other party's prior consent, Pakistan has construed the condition as arming it with a veto power over Indian works.
To keep unrest in J&K simmering, it has objected to virtually every Indian project.
Its obstruction has delayed Indian projects for years, driving up their costs substantially.
Not surprisingly, there have been repeated calls in the J&K assembly for revision or abrogation of the IWT. By gifting the state's river waters to Pakistan, the treaty has hampered development there and fostered popular grievance.
RJ&K's total hydropower-generating capacity in operation or under construction does not equal the size of a single mega-dam that Pakistan is currently pursuing, such as the 7,000 MW Bunji Dam or the 4,500 MW Bhasha Dam. Indeed, while railing against India's run-of-river projects, Pakistan has invited China to build mega-dams in the Pakistani-occupied part of J&K, itself troubled by discontent, including against the growing Chinese footprint there, especially in Gilgit-Baltistan.

A 2011 report prepared for the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee called the IWT "the world's most successful water treaty" for having withstood conflicts and wars. The treaty has been a success mainly because of India, which has continued to uphold the pact even when Pakistan has repeatedly waged aggression and fundamentally altered the circumstances of cooperation.
International law recognises that a party may withdraw from a treaty in the event of fundamentally changed circumstances.

Pakistan's continuing use of state-reared terrorist groups against India constitutes reasonable grounds for the injured party to unilaterally withdraw from the IWT. Sustained sponsorship of cross-border terrorism over many years has created fundamentally changed circumstances that undermine the essential basis of India's original consent to the IWT, while significantly altering the balance of obligations.
The Indus is Pakistan's jugular vein. If India wishes to improve Pakistan's behaviour and dissuade it from exporting more terrorists, it should hold out a credible threat of dissolving the IWT, drawing a clear linkage between Pakistan's right to unimpeded water inflows and its responsibility not to cause harm to its upper riparian.
A failure to respect that linkage should free India, for example, to link the Chenab (which has the largest transboundary flow) with the Ravi-Beas-Sutlej system to address water scarcity in its north.


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Postby shravanp » 23 Sep 2016 07:27

Kureel at his best again :D


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Postby RoyG » 23 Sep 2016 07:33

IS child suicide bombers dispatched to target Modi.

Doval has warned him not to breech security cordon.

I always thought it was too risky. He should stop clowning around now.

SPG and IB are probably under more pressure than ever.

If Modi goes down at this stage, things are going to get very ugly for us.

The regional parties will chew us alive and our strategic outlook will return to C-System.

Modi is the weakest link in all this.

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Postby Rudradev » 23 Sep 2016 07:47

Where is the above info from?

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Postby shiv » 23 Sep 2016 07:48

Karthik S wrote:Vayu gurus, is it safe for flares to be deployed over populated cities considering the temperature these things fire upto?

I am deeply sorry to inform you that flares over Islamabad are safe - I would have been much happier if they were not safe

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Postby shiv » 23 Sep 2016 08:00

I want to turn on the evening news one day and see the following story:

Breaking news: Terrorist in chief Hafiz Saeed killed in a huge explosion of the dais where he was making a speech in Bahawalpur. His body has not been found but Pakistani sources claim that metallic debris found at the site appear like missile parts


..and in another part of the world "A satellite and spy aircraft monitoring real-time broadcast signals from a spot in Bahawalpur in Pakistan were used to update the guidance software of a Brahmos missile launched from an unknown location. The missile hit its target within 4 minutes of launch."

PTI reports: In reaction to some reports in the media, the defence ministry has denied that any missile was launched from anywhere in India. India is against all forms of terrorism and opposes the use of violence to achieve political ends. India will always stand by the principles of non violence and good neighbourliness.

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Postby kedariprasad » 23 Sep 2016 08:52

anupmisra wrote:
chetak wrote:nawaz sharif addressing the UNGA. He seems to be getting all the attention he deserves.

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Where's the baki delegation?


Nawaz is self addressing UNGA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Sumeet » 23 Sep 2016 08:55

Karan M wrote:After thinking about it. The big thing is to enforce an assassins mace concept against Pak and PRC both. Copied from the PRC. A set of unique capabilities that have devastating war winning effect disproportional to their number. The Rafale, Nirbhay, S-400, mass PGMs for AF etc fall into that bucket. Buy, stock, replenish.


Karan I agree with you fully and would add UAVs, AWACS, JSTAR type platform as well. Plus if budget allows, develop dedicated jamming platforms built around Rafale or MKI with Israeli (preferred) or French collaboration. It will be good to have space based ELINT, Reconnaissance and Surveillance assets. The thing is we have to up our defence budget to 4% to get the force levels to what is needed. Also, capital needs to be invested into local industry for indigenous development. We live in a precarious env and its only our cutting edge defense capability that will make enemy think twice before they attempt such heinous attacks on our armed forces.

Added later: We need to invest heavily into digit and cyber security science to bring about new generation of offensive and defensive capability. Same in new areas of robotics, AI, Machine Learning & Big Data.

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Postby Singha » 23 Sep 2016 09:34

during the turkish coup , F-16s were also flying at treetop level over istanbul at night .... unclear if pro or anti but impressive show



F-solah as a special place in the psyche of all islamic nations.

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Postby Singha » 23 Sep 2016 09:38

the mass pic is a usaf style 'elephant walk' not paf unit.

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Postby Yagnasri » 23 Sep 2016 09:39

Nawaz is speaking for paki lal Majid and pindi gangs. That is all. Which idiot advised him to mention Wani a self-confessed Hizbul "commander" in his speech? I mean surely not paki FS fellows unless they are also full of bearded idiots.

Gurus may remember I had looked into Indus treaty when Ramanaji asked me to look into it. While I am not an expert on International law, it looks like something very difficult to get out.

One way is there since Pakis do not consider J&K as per of India, there is no locus for India to negotiate the treaty or even implement the agreement. So we can only say Pakis first accept J&K as per of India then we will implement that treaty. Some radical idea. But may work. Since UN no longer has it as a disputed territory in its list. It may work.

Further, since China stand on SCS the need to respect international arbitration is not there for India also. So let us ignore the arbitration in Indus treaty and see how it goes. If China can do it so can we. Since no one other than Pakis are going to be affected no one gives a damn if we ignore the treaty.

Second more funny news after PAAP calling NM as ISI agent

http://www.oneindia.com/india/dont-trus ... 16851.html

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Postby Philip » 23 Sep 2016 12:12

Karlekar in the Pioneer.

NO COMPROMISE ON NATIONAL SECURITY
Thursday, 22 September 2016 | Hiranmay Karlekar | in Oped

After Uri, India must prepare for a war with Pakistan by expediting military procurement and supplementing it with a massive diplomatic offensive against Islamabad

The attack on September 18, on 12th Brigade's headquarters in Uri, which killed 18 Army personnel and four attacking terrorists, bore Pakistan's unmistakable imprimatur. Three questions follow. Why Uri? Why now? What should India do? The search for an answer to the first question must begin with considering the attempted attack on the headquarters of the Poonch Brigade on September 11 morning. The attack was foiled. Four terrorists and one policeman were killed. The two incidents together, as well as the earlier attacks, underline the fact that the ‘Uri-Poonch Bulge’, a densely-forested hilly area, difficult to traverse and hemmed in on three sides by the Line of Control, is a special target of Pakistani troops because of its location and terrain, which makes terrorist advance difficult to detect.

The other cause is the bulge's strategic importance. Most Army operations against terrorists infiltrating from Pakistan through the Haji Pir Pass, are launched from Uri and Poonch. These will also be major bases for military expeditions to capture Haji Pir Pass — which the Indian Army seized in a daring operation in 1965, but gave up at Taskhkent — in any future war with Pakistan. It is, therefore, understandable that the latter would try to keep Army units in the region demoralised, disorganised and under pressure.

As for timing, one hears that Pakistan launched the September 18 attack to internationalise the Kashmir issue during the ongoing 71st United Nations General Assembly session. This sounds plausible, particularly since it may have been based on the calculation that an incensed India would launch a massive retaliatory attack that it could use to whip up the demand for global intervention to prevent a full-fledged war between two nuclear-weapon nations, and argue that the danger of a conflagration would remain as long as the Kashmir issue was not resolved and the world had a responsibility to find a solution.

The argument is engaging. But any expectation that India would launch immediate retaliatory action is unlikely to be met. New Delhi is doubtless facing flak from sections of the public and media for holding talks with Islamabad despite repeated terror strikes by spawns of the latter’s Directorate General of Inter-Services Intelligence like the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba and Jaish-e-Mohammad. But while the Union Government is said to be contemplating a harsh response, it unlikely to be immature enough to rush into action that may recoil on it.

Pakistan could not be unaware of this. Hence, besides attracting international attention to the Kashmir issue, the aim was obviously to boost the enthusiasm of the stone-pelters, whose bête noire is the Indian Army, and thereby raising the level of violence in the valley. It was also a part of a calibrated strategy to escalate terrorist strikes to a point where it can launch a military operation to annex Kashmir in a situation in which the Indian Army has to both fight at the front and protect its rear from terrorist attacks and mob violence.

Such a course would be a gamble. But Operation Gibralter (1965) and the Kargil misadventure (1999) show the Pakistani Army's penchant for gambles, which has been heightened by its obsession with avenging its 1971 rout and overweening confidence stemming from being armed to the teeth for war with India by using most of the massive aid received from the United States. Besides, General Raheel Sharif, Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff, is scheduled to retire on November 29, 2016. A war against India, whose outcome may be declared a victory even if the reality is otherwise, will not only be a fitting end to his tenure but helpful in realising his future ambitions, whatever these be.

India must, therefore, immediately begin to prepare for a war with Pakistan by expediting urgently needed military procurement, and supplementing it with a diplomatic offensive to have Pakistan globally labelled a terrorist state. Further, it must withdraw all economic concessions given to Islamabad and Prime Minister Narendra Modi must not attend the forthcoming Saarc summit there. Finally, it must at least double the annual defence allocation in the Union Budget and spend it fully. National security does not come cheap.


PS:In fact,the Paki military may have already prepared a quick surprise attack against us and "claim a victory" as Karlekar suggests.They've done it before with even veteran pilot Chuck Yeager absurdly saying that Pak won the "71 war! From various reports over the alst year it is obvious that we are in a state of geenral unpreparedness for a full scale war.Ammo stocks are low,etc.This is why the Pakis think that there is a window of opportunity to tweak India's nose.The Pathankot attack was to test PM Modi's resolve.They thought that given our supine MEA.always advocating "p*ss at any price",all that India can do is to give Pak a "befitting reply"! This time however,they're running scared and a cornered rat,bandicoot,will try and strike first. Not knowing where the first strike will fall upon them,the Pakis are putting on a show of bluster with night flights of the PAF.It is only scaring their population even more.

The fatwa against Paki artists to quit India within 48 hrs is another bolt from the blue.Paki cinema and music artists are making-according to a channel,over 50 crores in fees annually! This 50+ crores would be better spent for the families of those martyred.Bollywood must be told so and the hat must be sent round to all of Bollywood to show their loyalkty to the country. This fatwa indicates that it is not whether India will take mil action against Pak but when.

PPS:Raj Chengappa,Sandeep U,great cover of IT! Guys this is a colelctor's item.Get your copy now. :D

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby rgosain » 23 Sep 2016 12:42

Phil many of us oldies who came of age on this site around 1998-1999 can recall the bitten fingernails during the 6wk Kargil campaign. Back in 1999, everywhere in Asia, looked as if it was being taken over by the taliban and their affiliates led by Pakistan and and the Clinton SD. Afghanistan had been taken in 1996.
India's success at Karigil was the first time a democracy had pushed back an islamist threat so resoundingly and showed they could be beaten.
In 2008 the army the had fought at Kargil was a hollowed out wreck, set up to fail by a a civilian leadership more interested in pursuing confidence building, and the procurement budget, a upa slush fund.
One of the ways to out of this is to ensure that civil servants who serve in the MOD must be ex-officers of the forces. That can also mean that those in the dgmo, procurement, operations and decision making must serve in J and K. There should be a limited compulsion for IAS entrants who wish the enter the MOD to do 2 years military service, as they still do in France, Israel.

The IN should be set up separate from the MOD with its civilian staff in procurement, design, engineering, being directly recruited. This is the only way to ensure some decision making

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 23 Sep 2016 13:09

Bharadwaj wrote:This is where I wish we still had the foxbats or had bought some 31s. The pure fright value of flying at 60000ft and mach 2.5 over bakistan while the solahs helplessly floundered around would have been worthwhile...


Indira bought 5 Mig 25s, which regularly used to fly over Rawalpindi dive and fly back, jeering porkis.

Now russians are developing 4 to 4.3 mach Mig 41. Since now we are rich Modi can buy maybe 27 of them .... :wink:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-41

The Mikoyan MiG-41 is an interceptor-fighter aircraft currently being developed for the Russian Air Force by Mikoyan. Not much information is available concerning this project, but it is rumored that the aircraft will be extremely fast (with a top speed of Mach 4 to 4.3). It is anticipated that it will not enter service until at least 2020 and expected to achieve near hypersonic speed. As an interceptor, its primary mission is rumoured to offset future reconnaissance aircraft currently being developed by the United States and China (although Russia is also developing such aircraft, such as the Ayaks). To achieve such high speeds, the aircraft is probably to be equipped with ramjet- or turboramjet engines.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Philip » 23 Sep 2016 13:20

We were offered brand new MIG-31s in place of our old MIG-25s and asininely missed the bus! Had we had the MIG-31s,all Paki AEW aircraft would be sitting ducks today.A revamp is sorely needed in the MOD with a special tech wing with tech experts from the armed forces.etc. who will vet /assess requirements put forward and allow the civvy babus to handle paperpushing only! However,the IAS lobby has been steadily degrading the armed forces at every opportunity with the ignorance or connivance of some of the political elite in previous UPA regimes.It is for this govt. to repair the damage caused which has left us in this vulnerable position militarily vis-a-vis the Sino-Paki JV.

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Postby darshhan » 23 Sep 2016 13:35

Philip wrote:We were offered brand new MIG-31s in place of our old MIG-25s and asininely missed the bus! Had we had the MIG-31s,all Paki AEW aircraft would be sitting ducks today.A revamp is sorely needed in the MOD with a special tech wing with tech experts from the armed forces.etc. who will vet /assess requirements put forward and allow the civvy babus to handle paperpushing only! However,the IAS lobby has been steadily degrading the armed forces at every opportunity with the ignorance or connivance of some of the political elite in previous UPA regimes.It is for this govt. to repair the damage caused which has left us in this vulnerable position militarily vis-a-vis the Sino-Paki JV.


But you earlier said S-400 would be okay to put pakistani territory under cover. So which is better S-400 or Mig 31?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Iyersan » 23 Sep 2016 13:42

Will the presence of the Russian infantry be a problem for India to do surgical strikes. 200 infantrymen from Russia landed in Pakistan

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Postby srikven » 23 Sep 2016 13:54

Look at this guy's contribution to the country. Goes around bitching about unpreparedness . I wonder how come the economist found only one expert from India before publishing this trash

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Postby prahaar » 23 Sep 2016 14:19

Srikvenji, the above piece has better place on BRF, the media watch thread. A classic example of showing the service rates of Mig-29K without talking about the numbers for Pakistan OR China. The reference to Ghee just exemplifies how the "orientalism narrative" although considered well past expiry in BRF continues to be the western view.

The constant humdrum about India wanting a bigger international stature and super power ambitions is projected vision. I have never seen any Indian PM say that. Recently India's superpower ambition was ridiculed after our poor Olympic performance, with everything from caste/dowry/IT thrown at it.

We need to work on our weaknesses, indigenous MIC is essential. Whether to use it for war fighting or something else comes later. But over simplistic characterization of India's defense preparedness is targeted to dampen any "crazy thoughts" among those who look towards West in the morning.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby zoverian » 23 Sep 2016 16:58

I guess the window of retaliation (overt action) to Pakistan has been closed as of now :(

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Postby Aditya_V » 23 Sep 2016 17:04

zoverian wrote:I guess the window of retaliation (overt action) to Pakistan has been closed as of now :(


If we did it when they have chosen the time when they sent thier SSG guys over, we would be the biggest fools ever. They attack us without provocation, we can respond when they dont expect it. When monsoons are over and our internal fellows don't try anther stunt like Godhra.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby manjgu » 23 Sep 2016 17:23

on the contrary window of retaliation is opening with the closing of UNGA session. and onset of winters..

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby ks_sachin » 23 Sep 2016 17:29

So something around retaliation has taken place. The chatter is among certain inf officers (retd) who are connected to affected area.
By the way Uri Bde is 19 Div!!!!

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby pankajs » 23 Sep 2016 17:37

Time and timelines will not be any constraint IF the powers be decide to teach the Bakis a lesson. Which rule states that a response has to be time bound else it will be a foul.

Such things are only limited by the political will of the government at the helm.
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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Kakarat » 23 Sep 2016 17:38

I think TSP wants a war and recent activities are confirming that. But a war now could derail the BRICS and BIMSTEC meetings planned in October and leaders of the participating nations coming to India, the meetings would strengthener India's position in the region. I feel even china wants the war to happen for the same reason. There is a call for boycott of the SAARC summit but instead we should suspend Pakistan from SAARC with support of Afghan & Bangladesh move the summit to Kabul or may be Dhaka. We should also move a resolution supporting Baluchistan at SAARC.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Lilo » 23 Sep 2016 17:39

x-post

Chenab's waters can be linked to the ravi-beas-sutlej system already in place.
Chenab btw has the largest cross border flow of all the rivers in Indus system.

One scheme outlined below on how it can be linked
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From
Hydrology and Water Resources of India
By Sharad K. Jain, Pushpendra K. Agarwal, Vijay P. Singh

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ZKs ... =PA490&dq=


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