Not sure if its taboo to post this here:
From Keypubs poster QuantumFX
DISCLAIMER: there are rumors
The 2x J-20 had been the aggressors (blue force). During one engagement, the red force had been comprised of AWACS, J-10, J-11, Su-30. There is some confusion here, whether they were J-11/Su-30 or J-16. But the J-10 were at least J-10B, possibly even J-10C. Both KJ-200 and KJ-2000 were part of the exercise but not clear which one was used during that engagements with the J-20. Anyway, at the very early stages of the confrontations, one of the J-20 takes out the AWACS. Once the AWACS was gone J-10s and flankers were completely lost. They were totally unable to locate the J-20. Not clear whether the AWACS itself detected the J-20. All of the Red-force were taken-out by the 2x J-20. It seem even in WVR J-10s and flankers RADARs were unable detect the J-20. There were also rumors about complete confusion between the Red-forces and their ground-control units once the AWACSs were gone. Essentially they were fighting ghosts. And according to more rumors, since things are extremely one-sided, they are planning the bring in counter-stealth assets to even the odds (Probably RADARs JY-50 and systems like DWL001/DWL002).
So even IF part of this is true, yes, the J-20 has made nice handsome debut but it also shows even with AWACS support, how poorly earlier gen fighters like the J-10, J-11 will fare against 5th gen fighters like the F-22 and F-35. If the engagements involved the KJ-2000 with multiple J-10C and they were unable detect the J-20, that is extremely worrisome. J-10C, KJ-2000, KJ-500 are some of the most advanced assets in the PLAAF.
Definitely some of the above are exaggerations just like how US sometimes says that F-25/22 are "invisible"
Please let me post my take on this "rumor" seeing that it has passed unquestioned - coming from the almighty Keypubs phorum
It's like this. In the Korean war one or two entire squadrons of US Sabres would take off to do "fighter sweeps" over NoKo inviting NoKo MiG 15s to come and get 'em - and if they did pilots got kills. But this was a pointless exercise in an era when jets were as numerous as WW 2 fighters
Now my Q is what the fruck were those Chinese J-20s and the opposing AWACS + J-11/J-15 doing? A fighter sweep? That sounds stupid and pointless.
Now, could the J-20 have been aggressors going in to attack something? Unlikely because they had AAMs. So they must have been defenders.
So what were the J-11/15 and AWACS doing? It is likely that they were an "aggressor" team with some aircraft configured to attack - with bums, and others configured for air defence.
OK so the AWACS exposed itself by radiating energy to possibly a passive listening J-20, or best case it was detected by an agile narrow beam AESA. I am sceptical about the latter, Other than the US almost no one has actually managed to put out a great AESA in frontline fighters yet. Maybe Israel. France is getting there. OK so the AWACS was shot down. Then why did the J-11/15 get confused? Why should an attacking force be confused? They must have had an attack plan. OK the AWACS is down - and there are still fighters in the air. They could have split up to confuse the J-20 and at least 1-2 aircraft could have attempted a high speed low level dash to the target - destroying the target they went for. The other fighters could still have watched the backs of the attackers or at least distracted the J-20s. What IS this shit about "lost", "confusion" and "hunting ghosts"? That is frigging rhetoric. No need for that crap.
If a BRFite had written this story and put it up as a "possible war scenario" I would have given the story 1 out of 5. Frankly this fairy tale sounds like crony PLAAF guys trying to please their bosses by a completely fictional scenario where the J-20 is sure to win - just like a cricket match with a politician where the politician gets easy balls, catches are deliberately dropped and he never gets out just for chamchagiri.