China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby chola » 28 Feb 2020 17:02

Interesting. SU-35 and the latest chini ripoff the J-16 lost in their yearly "top gun" exercise to the J-10C.

Chini flankers getting clobbered again by smaller fighters.

The J-11As that lost to the Thai Gripens had older cassegrain radar sets and R-77. The J-16 and SU-35 are supposed to sport AESA and modern missiles.

Wonder if there is anything to be learnt here. The huge RCS of the Flanker might be such a big disadvantage that it can't be overcome by carrying a larger radar?

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According to PLA's official media, the J-10C has won the PLAAF's "Golden Helmet-2019" air combat competition in the group of 4.5th-generation fighters including J-16 and Su-35S.


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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby Manish_P » 28 Feb 2020 20:26

With the hit on their industry it won't hurt to increase the sales prospect of the J-10C wot?

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby Prithwiraj » 29 Feb 2020 09:22

Can we stop peddling Chinese craps ...? It is all optics and nothing else...Let them handle Corona first... high density population always vulnerable to these outbreaks... We need to be careful.....

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby kit » 23 Mar 2020 17:00

https://www.janes.com/article/95029/china-s-latest-haiyi-underwater-gliders-complete-indian-ocean-deployment


Upgraded Haiyi (Sea Wing) underwater gliders deployed from a Chinese government scientific research vessel on 11 December 2019 have successfully conducted an underwater survey expedition in the East Indian Ocean, the company responsible for manufacturing the gliders announced in late March.

The Tianjin-based Deepfar Ocean Technology Company (Deepfar) claimed that all 12 of its second-generation Haiyi long-range gliders deployed as part of the Ministry of Natural Resources’ (MNR’s) Joint Advanced Marine and Ecological Studies (JAMES) expedition were recovered by the state-owned survey/research ship Xiang Yang Hong 06 on 30 January, representing a cumulative 550 days of continuous operations at sea and a completed navigational distance of more than 6,479 n miles.

“The 12 Haiyi gliders – equipped with a variety of biological, hydrological, and chemical sensors – performed a co-operative survey within a 300×300 n mile observation area,” the company said in a statement. “[The gliders also] logged more than 3,400 survey profiles and obtained large amounts of hydrological data including temperature, salinity, turbidity, and oxygen content.”

According to Sublue, marine observation data collected by the gliders was transmitted by Xiang Yang Hong 06 to shore-based command centres via satellite communications (satcom), enabling scientists to examine the dynamic interactions and processes of underwater phenomena in real-time.

The research vessel subsequently returned to port in the eastern city of Zhoushan on 12 March, marking the conclusion of the JAMES expedition.

Comparable in physical form to the US-made Teledyne Webb Slocum gliding autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV), the Haiyi features a torpedo-shaped main body constructed from aluminium alloy or carbon fibre composite material and features a pair of swept wings.

The nose of the pressure hull contains the underwater glider’s buoyancy engine and depth control systems, with the mission payload and control unit located in the middle

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby Barath » 03 Apr 2020 19:38

https://www.belfercenter.org/publicatio ... sual-guide

Harvard Kennedy School has issued this paper on the strategic posture of India and China.

Rick Joe, regular contributor to The Diplomat and editor of PLARealTalk.com and a long time follower of China via open source analysis has suggested that

> I think this piece is too focused on "comparing forces" in the region and doesn't first ask the question of what each side's actual military objectives may realistically be. Trying to articulate a military balance without considering realistic objectives makes the entire comparison moot.

> Some of their assumptions seem a bit dubious to me, ranging from comparative quality of aircraft to comparative quality of pilot training, to assumptions about the availability of air bases in a time leading up to war, and also declining to consider the totality of each side's conventional strike capability.

> ... I would argue on the contrary that it's very mainstream opinion that Indian military conventional forces during normal peacetime technically outmatches and outmasses what the PLA fields in the region across the border.


Even so, the level of detail means it is a publication worth reading, even with all the caveats.

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby titash » 03 Apr 2020 21:04

Barath wrote:https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/strategic-postures-china-and-india-visual-guide

Harvard Kennedy School has issued this paper on the strategic posture of India and China.

Rick Joe, regular contributor to The Diplomat and editor of PLARealTalk.com and a long time follower of China via open source analysis has suggested that

> I think this piece is too focused on "comparing forces" in the region and doesn't first ask the question of what each side's actual military objectives may realistically be. Trying to articulate a military balance without considering realistic objectives makes the entire comparison moot.

> Some of their assumptions seem a bit dubious to me, ranging from comparative quality of aircraft to comparative quality of pilot training, to assumptions about the availability of air bases in a time leading up to war, and also declining to consider the totality of each side's conventional strike capability.

> ... I would argue on the contrary that it's very mainstream opinion that Indian military conventional forces during normal peacetime technically outmatches and outmasses what the PLA fields in the region across the border.


Even so, the level of detail means it is a publication worth reading, even with all the caveats.


The author's overt agenda, based on this paper and a previous one they were for thebulletin, can be summed up in 1 line:

"Life isn't as bad as you Indians think; chill and don't produce more nukes or nuclear subs"

Important to keep that agenda in mind before re-reading their analysis and recommendations. It's a bit like Rana Ayyub's recommendations on addressing Muslim sensitivities.

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby vsunder » 04 Apr 2020 02:48

^^^ The "Birgadier sahib" mentioned in this article seems like Brig. Gurmeet Kanwal who is the father of that cretin Rahul Kanwal the TV anchor. Kanwal pere had done some time in Sandia Labs in Albuquerque NM, thinking and tanking. Just before he passed away a few weeks ago, Kanwal wrote an article before Trump's visit that advocated Indian boots on the ground in Afghanistan. So..... In India everyone and everybody pretends to be in the loop in UP language "source lagao yaar" and so the Belfer center article also says "one retired Birgadier who is in the loop". Maybe the Belfer people want to say, do not worry so hard with China, you are strong. We need less of nooklear and more Indian boots in Afghanistan to stabilize. Waiting for that shoe to fall soon.

After all in the 1970's and through the 1990s these experts claimed that IAF doctrine was Russian with a controller directing everything and devoid of initiative. There is a famous story of a visiting US military delegation to South Block when Sundarji was CAS. Sundarji opened the door to his toilet and said "It is here I keep my Russian controller". Why does one give credence to such gasbags?

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Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Postby chola » 06 Apr 2020 14:23

Haven't posted here in a long time!

Recognition identifiers on the J-10. This thing is on its third mark, C.

The strange thing is the C variant switched over to WS-10 from the AL-31 in the later batches. The difference in engine should warrant a new mark but isn't so perhaps the basic design allows for the installation of either engine.

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