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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:22

Karthik S wrote:
shiv wrote:Here let a surgeon explain what a surgical strike is
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/781517350197612544


Shivji high on adrenaline rush?

Just letting off steam.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby salaam » 29 Sep 2016 21:23

Karthik S wrote:
shiv wrote:Here let a surgeon explain what a surgical strike is
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/781517350197612544


Shivji high on adrenaline rush?


Kindly mark such posts as NSFW.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Paul » 29 Sep 2016 21:24

What to make of their claim they have captured one of our guys. The name "Chandu Babulal Chohan" as Dawn claims seems spurious. But they'll have to start parading him before NDTV. This will now move to the airwaves.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:24

There was BAT action on the border. We may have suffered casualties. Chandu Babulal Chohan captured.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Paul » 29 Sep 2016 21:28

If he was captured by BAT, then it means they also took retaliatory steps. There will be more localized firefights in the coming days.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby GShankar » 29 Sep 2016 21:29

RoyG wrote:There was BAT action on the border. We may have suffered casualties. Chandu Babulal Chohan captured.


What is BAT action? Thanks in advance.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby SRoy » 29 Sep 2016 21:30

Border Action Team

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby salaam » 29 Sep 2016 21:31

GShankar wrote:
RoyG wrote:There was BAT action on the border. We may have suffered casualties. Chandu Babulal Chohan captured.


What is BAT action? Thanks in advance.


Border Action Team(s)

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:33

salaam wrote:Kindly mark such posts as NSFW.

What is NSFW

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby salaam » 29 Sep 2016 21:34

shiv wrote:
salaam wrote:Kindly mark such posts as NSFW.

What is NSFW


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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Tejas.P » 29 Sep 2016 21:34

I thought IA only confirmed two injuries. Was the BAT action in retaliation to the OP or during?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:35

From Pakdef
DG ISPR Asim Bajwa

Lt Gen Bajwa, Director General of the Pakistani military’s media wing told Dawn.com that the notion of the deaths being a result of a surgical strike is a false propagation by India.

“How is it possible that the target of a ‘surgical strike’ has no idea it took place?” he said. "This was simply an episode of cross LoC fire that they [India] have been doing. Small arms and mortars were used in the fire, similar to what has been used before...we gave a befitting response."

He added that India has been chanting the “surgical strike” mantra just for the consumption of her citizens.
Retired Air Marshal Shahzad Chaudhry

Retired Air Marshal Shahzad Chaudhry explained the terminology in a phone interview.

“A surgical strike is one that comes as a surprise and is conducted with surgical efficiency. It happens when an entity does the job and comes out. It is not messy. There is no collateral damage,” said Mr Chaudhry.

“On another level, sometimes what happens is that there is knowledge of the strike but an inability to respond.”

Referring to the incident today, Mr Chaudhry said, “What India has done today is an LoC violation. Not a surgical strike.”

He also dismissed India’s claim that it struck at “terrorist teams had positioned themselves on launchpads along the LoC”.

“In a circumstance when there is so much of tension on the border between India and Pakistan, only a fool would believe that a terrorist would actually infiltrate. Both armies are on high alert, so this is absurd.”
Security analyst Hasan Askari

Hasan Askari explains that the term "surgical strike" is usually used to describe military action involving air strikes.

"This was a ground offensive, not a surgical strike. The Indian military initiated cross-fire from their territory," said Mr Askari.

"It is not possible that they entered Pakistani territory because it is all fenced. Entering Pakistani territory would require that they break that fencing. It is likely that they fired from the LoC."

Mr Askari also maintained that Thursday's development mimicked the pattern of earlier cross-border firing. "The LoC violations that occurred in the past happened on exactly this pattern – what have they done today that is different?"

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Karthik S » 29 Sep 2016 21:36

Paul wrote:What to make of their claim they have captured one of our guys. The name "Chandu Babulal Chohan" as Dawn claims seems spurious. But they'll have to start parading him before NDTV. This will now move to the airwaves.


Man I am getting anxious now, 8-14 causalities, now a solder captured. What's the accurate picture?
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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:36

Probably after. They proly took out a a border post and wiped our guys inside. Took one back with them. They will probably parade him around on TV. Thats what I would do if I were them.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:36

RoyG wrote:There was BAT action on the border. We may have suffered casualties. Chandu Babulal Chohan captured.

NonPaki link please

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby williams » 29 Sep 2016 21:37

TRP starved English Media is having a field day. I wonder why they did not invite Paki ex fauj walas for their comments. It will be fun to see their faces.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:37

There. One rumour and BRF has started dhoti shivering

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:40

Eh w/e, to be expected. There is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to things like this. Important thing is we did something and we were overt about it.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shravanp » 29 Sep 2016 21:40

shiv wrote:There. One rumour and BRF has started dhoti shivering


:rotfl:

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:42

BabuLal chohan is reported by PakDef which is denying that any SF strike took place. Also that crap about 14 soldiers

Why are we behaving like sekoolars and reporting our side and Paki son of headmaster side also? Have a heart folks. Today is a day to cheer the Indian army.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby deejay » 29 Sep 2016 21:42

RoyG wrote:Eh w/e, to be expected. There is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to things like this. Important thing is we did something and we were overt about it.


RoyG, India is not Pakistan. If such a thing happened, there will be reports on it from Indian media and a conformation / denial from Indian Army / GOI.

I thought you of all would get it.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby schinnas » 29 Sep 2016 21:42

williams wrote:TRP starved English Media is having a field day. I wonder why they did not invite Paki ex fauj walas for their comments. It will be fun to see their faces.


Arnab is roasting some Paki on his news hours right now! He also has an Afghan to rub it in for Pakis..

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:43

RoyG wrote:Eh w/e, to be expected. There is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to things like this. Important thing is we did something and we were overt about it.

But it is a PakDef Tweet. If we believe that we must also believe that the Indian army is lying and no strike took place.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Tejas.P » 29 Sep 2016 21:43

I would ignore until confirmed or denied by govt. if they have retaliated and kidnapped one of our own, then get ready to escalate (this time by striking PA and ranger posts).

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Amol.d » 29 Sep 2016 21:44

dawn has withdrawn that headline and has replaced it with "Earlier, sources had said an Indian soldier by the name Chandu Babulal Chohan was taken into custody by Pakistani forces. However, there is no official confirmation of this claim."

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:44

deejay wrote:
RoyG wrote:Eh w/e, to be expected. There is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to things like this. Important thing is we did something and we were overt about it.


RoyG, India is not Pakistan. If such a thing happened, there will be reports on it from Indian media and a conformation / denial from Indian Army / GOI.

I thought you of all would get it.


No doubt. We'll have to wait and see. It's clearly an ongoing situation. Things are tense.

Casualties are to be expected. We are dealing w/ a caged animal.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:45

Tejas.P wrote:I would ignore until confirmed or denied by govt. if they have retaliated and kidnapped one of our own, then get ready to escalate (this time by striking PA and ranger posts).

I bet my left testimonial that it is a lie.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:46

Tejas.P wrote:I would ignore until confirmed or denied by govt. if they have retaliated and kidnapped one of our own, then get ready to escalate (this time by striking PA and ranger posts).


I'm sure they planned for every response/outcome.

But to expect Pakistan to sit on their hands is foolish.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby pankajs » 29 Sep 2016 21:47

Arre bhai Bakis have to do something to defend their H&D so they start a story.

As per BaKi account they won all wars with India so why should they admit to a cross-border raid? Just a week or two back Hajam Sethi was doing a 1 Baki = 3 Indian soldier.
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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:47

Amol.d wrote:dawn has withdrawn that headline and has replaced it with "Earlier, sources had said an Indian soldier by the name Chandu Babulal Chohan was taken into custody by Pakistani forces. However, there is no official confirmation of this claim."

:lol:

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Karthik S » 29 Sep 2016 21:47

RoyG wrote: We are dealing w/ a caged animal.


I thought we were the caged animal until now.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby deejay » 29 Sep 2016 21:48

RoyG wrote:
deejay wrote:
RoyG, India is not Pakistan. If such a thing happened, there will be reports on it from Indian media and a conformation / denial from Indian Army / GOI.

I thought you of all would get it.


No doubt. We'll have to wait and see. It's clearly an ongoing situation. Things are tense.

Casualties are to be expected. We are dealing w/ a caged animal.


They will come. Pakis will have their retaliation options, just like us. PA will do its own stuff. Jihadis will do what they do. We need to be ready.

That said, Pakis were caught with their pants down flying over Isloo for show and tell while we did what we did. So far they have not responded. Rest is all hot air from their pindi-chana gas factory - the worlds largest producer of posterior gas.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby IndraD » 29 Sep 2016 21:49

That news of IA soldier seems to be hoax , surprising Dawn has published it, actually coming out from defence.pk

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:49

Karthik S wrote:
RoyG wrote: We are dealing w/ a caged animal.


I thought we were the caged animal until now.


No no.

They are a caged dog.

We were a caged lion.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:50

Pakis have a Catch 22 situation. If they captured a soldier it means that they are accepting that Indian soldiers crossed the LoC. If they captured him inside India it means that they have violated the border. That story is dead.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby pankajs » 29 Sep 2016 21:51

Anything to defend their H&D. Even their most westernized Jurnos like Hajam Sethi take to such manuvers.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:52

deejay wrote:That said, Pakis were caught with their pants down flying over Isloo for show and tell while we did what we did. So far they have not responded. Rest is all hot air from their pindi-chana gas factory - the worlds largest producer of posterior gas.

Pakis were on high alert. What has been done is amazing. And there are videos - which will come "at a time and place of the Indian Army's choosing"

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 21:53

I think the videos will be UAV footage and Sat imagery. No helmet cam stuff.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Sid » 29 Sep 2016 21:53

shiv wrote:
Amol.d wrote:dawn has withdrawn that headline and has replaced it with "Earlier, sources had said an Indian soldier by the name Chandu Babulal Chohan was taken into custody by Pakistani forces. However, there is no official confirmation of this claim."

:lol:


lol indeed, but maybe its an op in progress. Night is still ripe and till sunrise lot of things may happen.

Like most of the folks here already know, people should be able to understand the burden of undertaking an offensive step.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shiv » 29 Sep 2016 21:54

pankajs wrote:Anything to defend their H&D. Even their most westernized Jurnos like Hajam Sethi take to such manuvers.

Admitting defeat is real defeat for the Paki army

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