Army strikes terror camps in PoK

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:39

Rudradev wrote:
Karan M wrote:Bahut jali hain Pakistani sympathizers ki.

#Nothing will happen
#Only 2 died
#No PA people died
#No PA colonels generals died
#PR exercise
#Foreigners say

LOL
Oh don't forget. We'll be giving up territory also, and inviting Pakistani leaders to Delhi and pampering them like Mughal Emperors.

heh rudradev saar - its times like these where the pro-TSP gang outs themselves. i wouldn't be surprised if burkha bibi claims the above as necessary for india to make upto 'em poor pakistanis.

i have been waiting for this one day since decades.

india finally reclaiming its own space from the colonized, dhimmi, turn the other cheek nonsense.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:39

Christopher Sidor wrote:
Karan M wrote:Facts are known to the doers. And the rest of the nation trusts the doers, not the false flag types desperately trying to salvage some H&D from a stinging kick to Pakistan and the Army of Islamists posterior.
So for all we know it is probable that less than 2 Pakistani Soldiers might have been killed. Wow.............. A surgical strike in which no PA soldiers are killed which was allegedly called to avenge the death of 18 Indian Soldiers.
OR we are supposed to just blindly trust some individual that more than 2 have been killed. Hmmmm......

Like I said illuminate us.

I am sure raheel shareef will illuminate you. just be careful, that on the way to find out what happened to those PA chaps, some dogra doesn't illuminate you with WP shells. accidentally. they are used for illumination.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 29 Sep 2016 23:41

Karan M wrote:
Rudradev wrote:
Oh don't forget. We'll be giving up territory also, and inviting Pakistani leaders to Delhi and pampering them like Mughal Emperors.
heh rudradev saar - its times like these where the pro-TSP gang outs themselves. i wouldn't be surprised if burkha bibi claims the above as necessary for india to make upto 'em poor pakistanis.

i have been waiting for this one day since decades.

india finally reclaiming its own space from the colonized, dhimmi, turn the other cheek nonsense.

About time C.Fair akka comes in one of the shows and does an appraisal of the stike and proposes some additional steps of escalation.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 29 Sep 2016 23:42

Ain't IA use flamethrowers and illuminate the Pakis? uniformed or not will they get Heaven is something that you may be asking, since it's said that those who go as ashes are not allowed in heaven. And what will Satan do to them? Same Saudi treatment given to Zaid Hamid?

sohoni · Post by **sohoni** » 29 Sep 2016 23:43

i agree with christopher. i think we must ask, privately in BR, what was the KIA and how was it achieved. i think even if the KIA is not in our favour, the operation was very important in expanding the scope of operations now made possible.

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 29 Sep 2016 23:44

Christopher Sidor wrote:So for all we know it is probable that less than 2 Pakistani Soldiers might have been killed. Wow.............. A surgical strike in which no PA soldiers are killed which was allegedly called to avenge the death of 18 Indian Soldiers.
OR we are supposed to just blindly trust some individual that more than 2 have been killed. Hmmmm......

Like I said illuminate us.

Before asking about trust you should examine your own biases. For you word of pakis has more value and is more authentic than official Indian word. India says dozens dead including PA soldiers and pakis say 2 dead. You believe pakis and in turn ask Indians to prove their word. Why should we bother?

Sid · Post by **Sid** » 29 Sep 2016 23:44

Karan M, he is just trawling. Don't feed him.

Amount of rash he is exhibiting is a clear indication of Porkuliberalous.

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 29 Sep 2016 23:45

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/b ... 163217.ece

In one of the most daring raids ever, the Indian army announced that it had carried out strikes on eight terror launch pads, in a night long operation across the Line of Control in Pakistan occupied Kashmir, which officials claim exacted casualties in the “double digits”. According to sources, the operation to hit terrorist bases in a “pre-emptive counterstrike” were given the go-ahead a week ago, days after the Uri army base attack in which 18 Indian soldiers were killed. The army had warned last week that the reply would be given “at the time and place” of its choosing.

On Wednesday, Defence Minister Parrikar inaugurated the Coastguards Commanders conference in Delhi in the morning, and he, Army Chief General Dalbir Singh Suhag and NSA Ajit Doval were expected to attend a dinner at the event later in the day.

They never attended the dinner. Through the day instead, they had all gathered in the military war room along with DGMO Lt Gen Ranbir Singh, as the operations began in two different parts, after the Prime Minister gave a formal go ahead to the secret operation. The operations were in locations spread over 200 kilometres, and was carried out by Para Special Forces and 'Ghatak' platoons of the local units.

Local commanders were given a freehand to select the targets, terrorist launching pads that had been mapped in advance, say officials. The teams had already been moved to forward positions by helicopters, but no Indian army chopper crossed the LOC, sources said. The helicopters remained on standby throughout the operations. The troops carried Carl Gustav rifles, grenades, shoulder fired weapons and flame throwers, among other equipment.

Just past midnight on Wednesday, the Indian Army rolled out its operation. It started with artillery fire being opened up at a few locations including along LOC in Uri. As the Pakistani troops focussed themselves on retaliating to the firing, Indian commandos crawled across the LOC to the predetermined spots across the LOC. The targets were terrorist launching pads in Hot Springs, Kel and Lipa that came under 15 Corps, while Bhimber Gali came under the Army’s 16th corps.

"They went in with the order to shoot to kill, and not to leave behind any injured soldiers," a senior Army officer said.

Guides and handlers who knew the locations of the camps that were on target were involved as support, say military sources, while soldiers of the Dogra and Bihar regiments were involved as support for the operation. Of the 8 targets identified, say the sources, six were active terror camps, while two didn’t show much activity.

While most of the operations were conducted within about two kilometre of the Line of Control, one team of commandos had to walk about 3 kilometre across the Hotwater springs area. At each location, the teams went in quickly, planted explosives, detonated them and moved out.

Army sources said three of the targets have been destroyed fully. According to initial assessment of UAV footages, Army estimates at least 40 deaths.

At certain locations, where the soldiers faced fire, the teams fired back, but received no injuries, according to officials. Eventually, sources describing the operation said the casualties on the Pakistani side were “heavy”, and in the “double digits”. They also claimed that photographs and videos of the operation will be released soon.

The entire operation was being covered by UAVs that provided live footage to the Northern Command headquarters in Udhampur, as well as the army divisions in Baramullah, Kupwara and Uri, images that were beamed back to an extremely relieved leadership back in Delhi.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:47

sohoni wrote:i agree with christopher. i think we must ask, privately in BR, what was the KIA and how was it achieved. i think even if the KIA is not in our favour, the operation was very important in expanding the scope of operations now made possible.

yes yes, very privately. we should ask IA about how the comfy sofas allow the KIA anal-yzers to determine how accurate they are versus the IA.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 29 Sep 2016 23:48

Cross-Posting from the Pakistan arms sales, ops, doctrine, etc thread...see Christopher, they don't have the courage to admit that they got a cattle prod up their posterior...

https://twitter.com/Pak_ArmedForces/sta ... 9507529729

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 29 Sep 2016 23:49

Sohoni - post count 2 - doubts India - maybe pakis are right - ahhhhhhhh H&D saved.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:49

Army sources said three of the targets have been destroyed fully. According to initial assessment of UAV footages, Army estimates at least 40 deaths.

At certain locations, where the soldiers faced fire, the teams fired back, but received no injuries, according to officials. Eventually, sources describing the operation said the casualties on the Pakistani side were “heavy”, and in the “double digits”. They also claimed that photographs and videos of the operation will be released soon.

Oh my. So horrible.

Clearly there were no PA casualties since the PA is known to never be in Pakistan and these were all random sheep which had come down from the mountain tops and were misidentified by the UAVs as human.

Pakistan also won in 1948, 1965, 1971 and 1999.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:51

Shankk wrote:Sohoni - post count 2 - doubts India - maybe pakis are right - ahhhhhhhh H&D saved.

Maroof Raza says much the same quoting Christine Fair.

Its not important that India routinely thrashes Pakistan & Pakistani Army.

All that's important is that Pakistanis never admit they got thrashed.

So the "Pakistani Army did not get KIA" rubbish being peddled.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:53

The famous British documentary group (cough) Monty Python profiled the Pakistani Army.

Please note the Pakistani Army as the Black Knight. Ok when fighting the Taliban. Then they get thrashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 23:56

Aditya_V wrote:Well Christopher, Pakis have officially confirmed 2, Media sources India state 8 camps of 25-30 Terrorists each netralised plus 9-10 Paki SSG who came in 2 trucks to stop the attacks Thier KIA is about 9-10 uniformed Jihadis and around 150+ non uniformed Jihadis. Pakis can never claim their KIA. This is the army which never took part in Kargil remember.

Kargil was different. The PA had claimed that the people who had occupied the heights were not regular army soldiers. So they could not take them back, as doing so would mean accepting the lie that they had told earlier.

Let us assume that some 2 soldiers killed plus 10 SSG who came to help. Making it a total of 12 KIA. Fair enough. That still puts the ratio as 12:18 or 2:3. Now the strength of Pakistani army is about 500000. So to annihilate them India would have to loose some 750000 of its own soldiers.

Last time India paid such a heavy price was during Partition, about 1 million dead and 20 million displaced. And let us not forget we have killed 150+ Non PA individuals, who can be replaced in less than a quarter, i.e. 12 weeks. If we had killed some 150+ PA regular soldiers then the time and cost to replace them would be even more. If we had killed an officer who had attended PMA then the time to replace him would be 2 years or more.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:57

"Let us ass-ume"

Lets not.

kit · Post by **kit** » 29 Sep 2016 23:58

Christopher Sidor wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Well Christopher, Pakis have officially confirmed 2, Media sources India state 8 camps of 25-30 Terrorists each netralised plus 9-10 Paki SSG who came in 2 trucks to stop the attacks Thier KIA is about 9-10 uniformed Jihadis and around 150+ non uniformed Jihadis. Pakis can never claim their KIA. This is the army which never took part in Kargil remember.
Kargil was different. The PA had claimed that the people who had occupied the heights were not regular army soldiers. So they could not take them back, as doing so would mean accepting the lie that they had told earlier.

Let us assume that some 2 soldiers killed plus 10 SSG who came to help. Making it a total of 12 KIA. Fair enough. That still puts the ratio as 12:18 or 2:3. Now the strength of Pakistani army is about 500000. So to annihilate them India would have to loose some 750000 of its own soldiers.

Last time India paid such a heavy price was during Partition, about 1 million dead and 20 million displaced. And let us not forget we have killed 150+ Non PA individuals, who can be replaced in less than a quarter, i.e. 12 weeks. If we had killed some 150+ PA regular soldiers then the time and cost to replace them would be even more. If we had killed an officer who had attended PMA then the time to replace him would be 2 years or more.

bro.. thou see only the eye of the camel but not the camel

Sid · Post by **Sid** » 29 Sep 2016 23:59

Even after OBL was caught red handed they never admitted their guilt, even when OBL was in a safe house just 3 miles away from their main adda.

In their mind they will weave some conspiracy theory and make their people live in that. Sad part is this bubble cannot be sustained by these conspiracy theories forever.

That bubble will go off along with Christopher Sidor, probably very soon.

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 29 Sep 2016 23:59

https://www.geo.tv/latest/116290-Funera ... n-hometown

FAISALABAD: The funeral prayers of the Pakistan Army soldier, who was martyred in unprovoked Indian firing at the Line of Control (LoC) , were offered on Thursday here.

The funeral prayers of Naik Imtiaz, one of the two martyred soldiers, were offered in Government Islamia College ground. Earlier Imtiaz's body was sent to his hometown in Faisalabad.

The Inter-Services Public Relations released pictures of the martyred Pakistan army men.

Naik Imtiaz was married and has left behind his widow and three daughters. He was martyred in Indian firing in Bhinbhar sector of across the LoC in wee hours of Thursday.

Covered in national flag, the body of the martyr reached his native town in Faisalabad on Thursday evening, with scores of people arriving to pay tributes to the martyred soldier, who laid his life while defending the homeland.

The other martyred soldier, Hawaldar Jumma Khan, will be laid to rest in his hometown Faqeer Kot tomorrow.

The ISPR said Jumma Khan who embraced shahadat at LoC hails from Astore.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:03

Aditya - during Kargil, Pak Army even sent coffins silently into the villages to avoid publicity. Wonder whether same will occur this time around too.. or "accidents" will occur in the next few months to explain how momeen suddenly got their 72 (non) virgin men.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:04

Christopher Sidor wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Well Christopher, Pakis have officially confirmed 2, Media sources India state 8 camps of 25-30 Terrorists each netralised plus 9-10 Paki SSG who came in 2 trucks to stop the attacks Thier KIA is about 9-10 uniformed Jihadis and around 150+ non uniformed Jihadis. Pakis can never claim their KIA. This is the army which never took part in Kargil remember.
Kargil was different. The PA had claimed that the people who had occupied the heights were not regular army soldiers. So they could not take them back, as doing so would mean accepting the lie that they had told earlier.

Let us assume that some 2 soldiers killed plus 10 SSG who came to help. Making it a total of 12 KIA. Fair enough. That still puts the ratio as 12:18 or 2:3. Now the strength of Pakistani army is about 500000. So to annihilate them India would have to loose some 750000 of its own soldiers.

Last time India paid such a heavy price was during Partition, about 1 million dead and 20 million displaced. And let us not forget we have killed 150+ Non PA individuals, who can be replaced in less than a quarter, i.e. 12 weeks. If we had killed some 150+ PA regular soldiers then the time and cost to replace them would be even more. If we had killed an officer who had attended PMA then the time to replace him would be 2 years or more.

Captain India over here.

My man, he's waitin' on it!

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 30 Sep 2016 00:05

Karan M wrote:
sohoni wrote:i agree with christopher. i think we must ask, privately in BR, what was the KIA and how was it achieved. i think even if the KIA is not in our favour, the operation was very important in expanding the scope of operations now made possible.
yes yes, very privately. we should ask IA about how the comfy sofas allow the KIA anal-yzers to determine how accurate they are versus the IA.

Not accurate but how effective this so called Surgical strike was I terms of damage caused to damage received. In a war of attrition this is a very important factor.

But then people who believe that if we question something, then one is the hand maiden of Nawaz or are behaving like Pakistan would not know of it would they? And these very same people obviously would not be interested in getting our territories back but would beat their chest and claim how this so called strike is a gift from God.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:06

kittoo wrote:can someone please archive the important videos (likes times now celebrating etc.) for those of us who are in office etc and can't watch? please.

I want to start watching them first with some payasam, then munch pakoda, masala peanuts with some good whisky-beer-or whatever.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:06

Aditya G wrote:https://www.geo.tv/latest/116290-Funera ... n-hometown

FAISALABAD: The funeral prayers of the Pakistan Army soldier, who was martyred in unprovoked Indian firing at the Line of Control (LoC) , were offered on Thursday here.

The funeral prayers of Naik Imtiaz, one of the two martyred soldiers, were offered in Government Islamia College ground. Earlier Imtiaz's body was sent to his hometown in Faisalabad.

The Inter-Services Public Relations released pictures of the martyred Pakistan army men.

Naik Imtiaz was married and has left behind his widow and three daughters. He was martyred in Indian firing in Bhinbhar sector of across the LoC in wee hours of Thursday.

Covered in national flag, the body of the martyr reached his native town in Faisalabad on Thursday evening, with scores of people arriving to pay tributes to the martyred soldier, who laid his life while defending the homeland.

The other martyred soldier, Hawaldar Jumma Khan, will be laid to rest in his hometown Faqeer Kot tomorrow.

The ISPR said Jumma Khan who embraced shahadat at LoC hails from Astore.

Are they in the process of switching over to a new disruptive pattern? No jokes. Serious.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:07

SwamyG wrote:
kittoo wrote:can someone please archive the important videos (likes times now celebrating etc.) for those of us who are in office etc and can't watch? please.
I want to start watching them first with some payasam, then munch pakoda, masala peanuts with some good whisky-beer-or whatever.

It's Thursday tho. I can't celebrate w/ you until tom.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 30 Sep 2016 00:10

From Lal Topi's twitter account. My goodness...this dude never ceases to surprise...

https://twitter.com/SirZaidHamid/status ... 1608437760

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:11

Christopher Sidor wrote:
Karan M wrote:
yes yes, very privately. we should ask IA about how the comfy sofas allow the KIA anal-yzers to determine how accurate they are versus the IA.
Not accurate but how effective this so called Surgical strike was I terms of damage caused to damage received. In a war of attrition this is a very important factor.

But then people who believe that if we question something, then one is the hand maiden of Nawaz or are behaving like Pakistan would not know of it would they? And these very same people obviously would not be interested in getting our territories back but would beat their chest and claim how this so called strike is a gift from God.

please get our territories back. join the IA.

preferable to motor-mouthing.

i'll take the IAs word on 40 casualties thanks much.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 30 Sep 2016 00:14

RoyG wrote:
Aditya G wrote:https://www.geo.tv/latest/116290-Funera ... n-hometown

Are they in the process of switching over to a new disruptive pattern? No jokes. Serious.

We should have beheaded these two Pakis just as some our brethren from Kerala were beheaded and the IA refused their coffins to be opened when they reached their home town in Kerala for their final rites. To the hell with Geneva Conventions.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:15

Rakesh wrote:From Lal Topi's twitter account. My goodness...this dude never ceases to surprise...

https://twitter.com/SirZaidHamid/status ... 1608437760

typifies pakistan. cartoon bombast. the pic is real even if parody account. what a fool that he dressed up like that, paunch and all.

meanwhile comments are hilarious -

muh pe underwear kyu pehne ho chicha?
phele kuch kha le
why have u put on a bengali monkey cap
lol abe bh@@@@@ tere bas ki bat nahi
Old man back to his school days playing wid water gun
aap ho langoor aur khane chale angoor"

ragupta · Post by **ragupta** » 30 Sep 2016 00:16

Photos of the dead terrorists are being circulated in whatsapp.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:18

Lal Topi

"Alhamdulillah, just played Counter Strike and took revenge of Indian #SurgicalStrikesAgainstPak"

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 30 Sep 2016 00:18

Karan M wrote:
Rakesh wrote:From Lal Topi's twitter account. My goodness...this dude never ceases to surprise...

https://twitter.com/SirZaidHamid/status ... 1608437760
typifies pakistan. cartoon bombast. the pic is real even if parody account. what a fool that he dressed up like that, paunch and all.

meanwhile comments are hilarious -

muh pe underwear kyu pehne ho chicha?
phele kuch kha le
why have u put on a bengali monkey cap
lol abe bh@@@@@ tere bas ki bat nahi
Old man back to his school days playing wid water gun
aap ho langoor aur khane chale angoor"

A parody account perhaps? Starts with a Sir, etc.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:20

Yechury of CPI. Also of same mind. Wants PA # of kills to be told by Raheel Shareef.

We have seen our DGMO briefing, saw the Pakistani reaction, besides that we have no official information: Yechury, CPI

Much rhona dhona today.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 30 Sep 2016 00:20

Karan M wrote:when i say rules have changed, please understand the indian babu-GOI mindset. we do things properly once its in the open.

our nuke program was being run ineffectually till ABV brought it into the light. now we have a credible deterrence.

modi has brought india's retaliatory measures & open use of force as the new normal. this means defence, funding our IA SF units, R&AW + special group support will also get a fillip and over time be established. joint command & control for SF activities may end up being normalized too.

this is the way things work in India.

Brilliantly said, and a very astute observation.

IA could have been doing what it did last night every night for the last 10 years, and could have kept doing it every night for another 10 years... but with no one being the wiser, it wouldn't have made any difference to the status quo. The fact that we publicly declared what was done last night changes the game entirely for ALL parties concerned, including the entirety of our administration from top to bottom.

Our doing it out in the open is what the TSPA dreads even more than the body count, property losses etc. that they incur. The entire strawman of "escalation leading invariably to nuclear war"... on which the edifice of their blackmail devolves... gets blown to bits. In addition the sheer helplessness of the PA to inflict a single casualty while IA smashes them and their proxies to smithereens, on turf ostensibly controlled by them, in the triple-digits... that's a lesson that won't be lost on our friends in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Baluchistan, Sindh and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Making knowledge public at the right time is a key step in *weaponizing* information. And this war, like any other in the modern age, will be waged and won in the realm of information. As much as, if not more so than in any physical theatre.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:21

pankajs - parody account but real pic. idiot dressed up like that to show off. this is what impresses his followers in pakistan.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:24

Akshay Kapoor wrote:God Bless Arnab too.

He was just a tool to prepare the public. He played his given role with aplomb. Oscar nomination onlee.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Sep 2016 00:25

Rudradev - exactly, MAD & IA deliberately chose to have this op known. All this redline business got a heavy kick up the posterior.

New normal - and this too one day i hope to see. Attack on Indian assets even in Afghan, 1000x the damage in TSP - both SF and irregulars. Noone bats an eyelid. PA sends emissaries wringing hands to India.

And if push comes to shove, the next redline to be breached will be the Cold Start one.

Modi's 2nd or 3rd term. When IA is finally weaponized as it should have been, as versus the traitorous Cosa Nostra gang keeping it toothless.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 30 Sep 2016 00:27

Chris, whats your obsession?. This retaliation is just the first step. As Bikram Singh eloquently pointed out, this is a signal to TSP that India will not be hesitant to retaliate. Its part of a multi-pronged strategy to impose costs on TSP. Please be patient.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Sep 2016 00:27

JayS wrote:I have heard this once before. Modi never Forgets, Modi never Forgives. Now that's the right kind of Leader for India for long term..

But he is also a leader who will try things and give a chance. If the person, group or country does not mend; then only bamboo.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 30 Sep 2016 00:31

Bamboo is too nice a word for these pigs. Danda is more like it.