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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby IndraD » 29 Sep 2016 19:04

But at same time no warning issued to India or asking for restraint, that means this has blessing from Omababa and CNN are living in world of disconnect.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby amohan2001 » 29 Sep 2016 19:05

Is Raheel Sharif a RAW agent?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby VishnuCK » 29 Sep 2016 19:07

Dark Butt on NDTV now almost exploding with hidden grief :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby abhijitm » 29 Sep 2016 19:11

Nawaz is a gone case now.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby sum » 29 Sep 2016 19:13

Prakash Katoch says in his article that yhe earlier raid reports were fake and the total Paki soldiers killed were 4 and not 2 when they tried to intervne

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby SaiK » 29 Sep 2016 19:16

4 hours, choppers and 38 kills: How India avenged the Uri attack
By ECONOMICTIMES.COM | Sep 29, 2016, 03.23 PM IST

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 579855.cms

Here's what happened in 4 hours, according to reports:

1. Operation begins around 12.30 am on Wednesday. According to reports, paratroopers from Special Forces were involved.

2. The commandos were airdropped at the LoC, from where they crossed over to the Pakistani side.

3. According to sources, Indian commandos entered three kilometres across the Line of Control to conduct the 'surgical strikes'

4. The strikes were carried out in Bhimber, Hotspring, Kel & Lipa sectors, on Pak's side of LoC, according to reports.

5. The location was 500 meters-2 Km across LoC, sources said

6. 7 terror launch pads were destroyed during the surgical strike

7. 38 terrorists and 2 Pakistani soldiers were killed in Indian Army surgical strikes, no Indian casualties. Those killed included terrorists, their guides and handlers

8. Helicopters were used. Mission, according to reports, ended at 4.30 am

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby chetak » 29 Sep 2016 19:16

Bhaskar_T wrote:Raheel's tenure ends in November. He has 3 options, either choose Jannat by retaliating to Indian attack or do a coup on Miyaan Nawaz or retire, keep enjoying biriyani. I think he will choose either 2nd or 3rd option.

zoverian wrote:Now the next question on a serious note...."Will Pakistan Retaliate".....

Nawaz sharif doesn't have a guts...but....Raheel Sharif (Army Chief) may take the gamble...


There will be a retaliation.

We have to be on guard continuously and think like the pakis.

They will also have pre planned targets in their playbook.

An operation like the one done by the IA does not happen in a weeks time. It's out of a continuously updated playbook too.

Whoever we have in custody will have to be gently persuaded to regurgitate and the big picture has to be constructed and studied carefully and gamed extensively.

I have always said that we need to kick the brits very hard in their tiny little testimonials, not only for what they have done but also for the carefully pre planned mess they have left behind with their sepoy sleeper cells all eager to tend to their garden.

Rhodes scholars, my bloody foot!! Like sagarika and turdesai??

Hurt them in trade. Bypass and look for alternate sources, all the while smiling sweetly and engaging them in prim drawing room conversation in a clipped british accent.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby nirav » 29 Sep 2016 19:17

All hekdi choding of pakis aside, now that IA has whacked a few bakis inside their occupied lands, their focus has suddenly changed from nuking India to denying that the raid ever took place.

baki forums have lot of bluster from having a list of targets in India ready to attack to threatening our 1.2 billion population.

All earlier BS of bakis retaliating with "full force" has evaporated all of a sudden and now they are saying this is an Indian "trap" to get Al Bakistan to launch hostilities so that Indian aggression can then be justified.

The idiots dont realize that bakistan and its stupid ass army/gernails have no clue what to do when India gets back at them military.

On a side note, the bandar that went down yesterday, could it have been helped in going down by IAF ?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby malushahi » 29 Sep 2016 19:19

Sid wrote:The Pakistan military can't betray to their domestic audience that they've allowed the Indians to actually cross the line of control by as many as 12 kilometers and there was no action against that," he said.


12kms? is that the route length?
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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby kvjayan » 29 Sep 2016 19:20

The word "jingoism" seems to be absent in secular media, at least for the present. Perhaps, may come back with a vengeance after sometime. For the time being they dare not.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Kashi » 29 Sep 2016 19:26

^^ They liberally (excuse the pun) use words like "jingoism" when it's all talking and ranting and they are confident that it would stay that way. Now when the talk turns into walk, suddenly they find themselves clueless- it's a new territory for them.

But you are right, they'll regroup and resume their usual.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Singha » 29 Sep 2016 19:29

Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 3h3 hours ago
1 Indian Army commando injured in the #IndiaStrikesPak covert strike. He's stable. Will update on his condition. Thoughts with him & unit.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby sooraj » 29 Sep 2016 19:30

any militants captured during the raid???

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby wig » 29 Sep 2016 19:31

elements of the 4th and 9th Battalions (SF) of the Parachute Regiment carried out the strikes
They said Chief of Army Staff Gen Dalbir Singh himself was in the operations room on Wednesday night as Special Forces Para Commandos from the 4th and 9th Battalions of the Northern Command prepared for the assault that was launched around midnight. The operation concluded around 4.30 Thursday morning. .
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The sources said the commandos were air-dropped close to the LoC and they struck at seven terrorist launch pads around 2km to 3km inside Pakistan territory -- across the LoC in the Poonch and Kupwara sectors.
The sources confirmed that the terrorists -- who were planning strikes in Kashmir as well as several metros -- suffered "significant casualties". Although no details were released by the army, some reports said the number of terrorists killed was 38.

Earlier on Wednesday, defence minister Manohar Parrikar met the three Service chiefs at his office around 5 pm. He later went to meet Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the sources said

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 586193.cms

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby chetak » 29 Sep 2016 19:32

malushahi wrote:
Sid wrote:The Pakistan military can't betray to their domestic audience that they've allowed the Indians to actually cross the line of control by as many as 12 kilometers and there was no action against that," he said.


12kms? is that the route length?


wait patiently for a few days/weeks and the full details will emerge over twitter/facebook.

Radio chatter from the border regions and even in cashmere will also give a detailed picture in the fullness of time.

the pakis have signaled strongly that they do not wish to escalate, for now!!

bad sharif must have torn many many new ones among his senior subordinates and commanders in the field.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 29 Sep 2016 19:33

Where is Shiv sir ?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Gus » 29 Sep 2016 19:35

bakis are caught in a blind because...

they don't have a canned response to parrot

they come off bad if they accept the raid - because then folks will ask for proof and they can't show dead jihadis
their only option is to deny deny deny at top level, but throw in some bluster about retaliation at low level or indirect way to tell India to not dare to do it again...

oh it is so good to see them squirm ...for once it is not india that has to hem and haw on what to say and not hurt the already hurt people..

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby williams » 29 Sep 2016 19:36

All those candle kisser Abduls who said "there is no option but talks" will need new jobs now. :((

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby rohitv » 29 Sep 2016 19:36

Messages doing rounds on Whats App groups put toll at 70+ with involvement of Ghataks.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Sid » 29 Sep 2016 19:37

Akshay Kapoor wrote:Where is Shiv sir ?


Shiv was part of strike package

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Gus » 29 Sep 2016 19:41

JayS wrote:But look how carefully Congis and sickulars are only congratulating IA and avoiding even saying GoI let alone PM/Modi. Some trying to downplay - its not the first time, why govt is breast-beating, it POK-Indian territory, not gone in Pakistan actually so why so much breast-beating or even Modi not alone taking decision, he should not be given credit, so why its #ModiPunishesPak and what not. The usual suspects trying hard. They were caught napping and now slowly they are recovering.


does it matter?

they will try their usual crapola about first clamoring for details and then nitpicking on it and all sorts of tricks to not give credit to modi etc..

but that story won't play beyond the hardcore modi-hater constitution.

the way the story broke and how it played out in media, general population will know this is all modi and team.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby malushahi » 29 Sep 2016 19:42

chetak wrote:Radio chatter from the border regions and even in cashmere will also give a detailed picture in the fullness of time.

the pakis have signaled strongly that they do not wish to escalate, for now!!

bad sharif must have torn many many new ones among his senior subordinates and commanders in the field.


+1.

i found the 12km bit interesting to say the least when put in context of "north" kupwara. a veritable sandbox of sorts imho.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Uttam » 29 Sep 2016 19:45

From Wall Street Journal:

India Says It Hit Terrorist Bases in Pakistan-Controlled Kashmir With Strikes
NEW DELHI—India’s army said Thursday it had carried out overnight “surgical strikes” on what it described as terrorist bases across the country’s de facto border with Pakistan, a move likely to heighten already soaring tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbors.

Lt. Gen. Ranbir Singh, India’s director general of military operations, said “significant casualties have been caused to the terrorists and those who are trying to support them.” In a news conference, he didn’t offer details of the operation or say whether Indian soldiers had entered Pakistani-controlled territory.

The strikes followed a militant assault on an Indian army installation that killed 18 soldiers earlier this month. India has blamed Pakistan for the attack, and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said it wouldn’t go “unpunished.”

India and Pakistan have fought multiple wars since independence from Britain in 1947, and India has long accused Muslim-majority Pakistan of supporting and harboring Islamist militants who target India, something Islamabad denies. Pakistani terrorists killed more than 150 people in Mumbai in 2008.

Mr. Modi has pledged a more muscular approach to dealing with terror and other security threats. Last year, Indian special forces carried out strikes in neighboring Myanmar against militants it blamed for attacks on Indian security personnel in the country’s northeast.

A senior Indian officer familiar with the operation, who declined to be named, told the Journal that Indian forces had crossed the so-called line of control that separates the parts of the disputed region of Kashmir governed by the two countries with helicopters to attack militant camps.

Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif issued a statement condemning what he called “unprovoked and naked aggression” by India, which he said resulted in the deaths of two Pakistani soldiers.

Pakistan’s military said India’s assertions of a “surgical strike” were a “fabrication.” Instead, it said, Indian troops had fired across the line of control, a fairly regular occurrence. Pakistan’s army said it responded “strongly and befittingly.”

Pakistan’s defense minister, Khawaja Muhammad Asif, also played down the event, which he described as “small weapons fire” across the line of control.

The senior Indian officer said around eight militant “launch pads,” temporary camps set up before an infiltration, located up to 3 miles inside Pakistani-held territory were hit in a rare intrusion by helicopter-borne forces. Similar operations were conducted in 2013 after an Indian soldier was beheaded and another mutilated in border clashes, the officer said. Those raids weren’t disclosed to the public.

India’s Gen. Singh said the military action followed “specific and credible information” that terrorists were waiting to infiltrate into India and carry out attacks in Kashmir and major Indian cities. India accuses Pakistan of harboring terrorists who attack India, something Pakistan denies.


Gen. Singh said the Indian army had foiled 20 infiltration attempts by terrorists this year. He said the Indian army had informed Pakistan about its operation and was “prepared for any contingency that may arise.”

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Karthik S » 29 Sep 2016 19:45

Sid wrote:
Akshay Kapoor wrote:Where is Shiv sir ?


Shiv was part of strike package



:lol:

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Postby nirav » 29 Sep 2016 19:47

The sources said the commandos were air-dropped close to the LoC and they struck at seven terrorist launch pads around 2km to 3km inside Pakistan territory -- across the LoC in the Poonch and Kupwara sectors.
The sources confirmed that the terrorists -- who were planning strikes in Kashmir as well as several metros -- suffered "significant casualties". Although no details were released by the army, some reports said the number of terrorists killed was 38.


This is by far the most important statement from the DGMO briefing.

Post the Uri attack, pakis asked for "proof" .. post pathankot they asked "proof" .. post mumbai they asked "proof" ..

They could ask for "proof" for the bolded part, but the actions of IA are a visible rejoinder to Bakistan, Proof ? "stick it up your a$$"

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby kvjayan » 29 Sep 2016 19:48

williams wrote:All those candle kisser Abduls who said "there is no option but talks" will need new jobs now. :((


Talks may be perhaps, but on our terms!

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby la.khan » 29 Sep 2016 19:49

The nicest thing about the strike into pakiland is about setting a precedent, and a good precedent at that, has been set. Next time there is a terror strike, we can use this as an example to carry out strikes. Even if there is a change in govt., the incumbent's response will be compared to NaMo's :twisted:

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 29 Sep 2016 19:50

Then he should be back..mission done. Rum time.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Singha » 29 Sep 2016 19:50

my theory is the kill teams spent some 2 hrs getting into position from crossing the border. then a synchronized attack based on radio signal across all the location.
most killed would be shot in their sleep with silenced rifles or pistols. no explosives needed. maybe 1 from each location roughed up and dragged with a gag in his mouth back to the border. all the truck tires and wooden logs they lift in training helps there (discovery 'earning the badge')

and one of the teams ran into a paki OP party expectedly or someone got off a shot or two which brought them running to scene - so the OP party lost the 2-4 tspa pakis killed and team made good its escape. the wounded operator might be in this engagement.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby JayS » 29 Sep 2016 19:50

Sid wrote:
Akshay Kapoor wrote:Where is Shiv sir ?


Shiv was part of strike package


One of the Surgeons?? :lol: :lol:

He just posted in other thread.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 19:50

srikven wrote:Saurav Jha
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Naval exercise is a buildup on the fact that naval moves helped end Kargil. But Brasstacks may be on the anvil as well.


Everything I said is coming true.

Cold Start light may start up soon.

We may activate 300-400k troops and do exercises on the border. This will escalate things and preempt anything that the Pakistanis may be thinking by putting them on the defensive for 1-2 weeks.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby nirav » 29 Sep 2016 19:55

RoyG wrote:
srikven wrote:Saurav Jha
‏@SJha1618
Naval exercise is a buildup on the fact that naval moves helped end Kargil. But Brasstacks may be on the anvil as well.


Everything I said is coming true.

Cold Start light may start up soon.

We may activate 300-400k troops and do exercises on the border. This will escalate things and preempt anything that the Pakistanis may be thinking by putting them on the defensive for 1-2 weeks.



This will enable collective julaab for the whole Al bakistani nation.

Very nice ! :twisted:

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

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Schools in some border areas of Jammu ordered closed indefinitely. Most probably to provide shelter to displaced citizens from border villagers or in anticipation of rising hostilities.

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Kashi » 29 Sep 2016 19:59

What happened to the press conference scheduled for 6:00 P.M.?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby JTull » 29 Sep 2016 19:59

amohan2001 wrote:Is Raheel Sharif a RAW agent?


He lost his uncle in '65 and brother in '71. Now he's retiring in 3 months in disgrace. Unless, there's a scapegoat (read: the other Sharif)

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Nikhil T » 29 Sep 2016 20:00

This was the CCS meeting yesterday. Only Army Chief, DGMO from the forces. Sushma was missing (probably running the phones).

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby Gus » 29 Sep 2016 20:04

la.khan wrote:The nicest thing about the strike into pakiland is about setting a precedent, and a good precedent at that, has been set. Next time there is a terror strike, we can use this as an example to carry out strikes. Even if there is a change in govt., the incumbent's response will be compared to NaMo's :twisted:


the strikes will be a high watermark for us to set baseline

while their non-response will only set their low red lines

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby shravanp » 29 Sep 2016 20:05

Anybody has links for Burkha's presser with Meenakshi Lekhi? Read that it was good one.

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Postby jamwal » 29 Sep 2016 20:07

Nikhil T wrote:This was the CCS meeting yesterday. Only Army Chief, DGMO from the forces. Sushma was missing (probably running the phones).

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Doval, Modi, Jaitley, Parrikar, Rajnath, Army Chief in picture. Who are the rest ?

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Re: India's Retaliation Options to significant terrorist strikes

Postby RoyG » 29 Sep 2016 20:11

Pakistan will hit a few military targets. This is to be expected.

I would do snap exercises for 1-2 weeks up and down the IB and pre select targets.

Shelling across LoC will begin soon. This is how it will escalate.


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