Saar, while the first para I meant in all seriousness, the second para was meant in jest onlee So I hope you are referring to the first para.JayS wrote:I pulled out that 12B 250 LCA Mk2 offer's reference for this only. It seems it was already pitched, what is being suggested in your post. But it went no where. Why..??Rakesh wrote: Well said once again! I say get Tata and Adani to both open Tejas lines. They are bidding for phoren aircraft production. Give them both a 100 aircraft order for the Tejas. HAL has gone on record stating that they have no orders post Rambha production.
Also get Birla, Godrej, Bajaj, MRF Tyres, Sheetal Fashion and Raymond Group to all pitch in. The latter two can design & make the uniforms for the folks that Tata and Adani are going to hire...oh wait, they are HAL employees onlee
All about job creation and getting the ball rolling in other sectors of the economy
IR, you have any chaiwalla info..?
On that first para, first off I must say that when folks on BRF make absurd claims in support of this deal, it takes the wise to come up a counter solution which would not necessarily have been thought of before. I am not sure if anyone came up with this idea, but I am reading it for the first time from Indranil. So correct me, if I am wrong. Also, where did you read that this idea was pitched? And what is this $12 billion Mk2 order? A big thank you to Indranil for the following statement, "And I don't care for a DPSU. Ask Tata to build Tejas. I would be most happy about it too."
Come to think of it. That is actually a bloody amazing idea. To expand on that idea further, I would suggest have the GoI provide the funds for both Tata and Adani to build a production facility of their own. Or at least provide the land to both companies. Give each one of them an order for a minimum of a 100 Tejas fighters. Now I will concede that neither Tata nor Adani have any experience in building fighters and so that is where HAL comes in. Let HAL provide the manpower (at least initially) to commence production and then transition over time to train Tata and Adani employees. Heck, even Boeing is saying the same thing...they would rather partner with HAL as they are the only ones with the experience. LM and Saab are saying the same thing as well, but behind closed doors. They do not want to rock the boat.
Provide incentives (monetary) to both Tata and Adani. Whoever produces aircraft quicker (that meets standards obviously) gets a cash incentive. Make it competitive. We can have four Tejas lines minimum - two at HAL (the second being the Rambha line), one at Adani and one at Tata. Each facility should also have a MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul) center as well. When the Tejas is due for an overhaul, do it there. This will truly be Designed in India, Make/Made in India and Overhauled in India. And it will be Jobs of Value in India as well...none of this assembly/screwdrivergiri nonsense.
Think about it. This SE deal is going to cost (at minimum) $10 billion in land acquisition, building a factory, buying the jigs, the tools, CKD/SKD kits for the aircraft and whatever else. Then there will be the billions in after sales support to keep these phoren jewels flying. Why not invest all that money in India itself? Roll the money within the country, why hand over valuable FOREX to a foreign nation? Employ people who will have valuable jobs and thus will spend, because they are now earning.
When AMCA rolls along, rinse and repeat. Have four AMCA production lines going. And when AMCA is being produced, Tata/Adani/HAL employees should be doing overhauls of the Tejas at their respective MRO centres. Employ even more people.
Buying the F-16 is akin to Israel's Lavi program and Canada's Avro program (from the 50s). The F-Solah purchase will kill the Tejas. Gripen will be no different either. Our leaders need to wake up and see this. It is frustrating because we do not have effective project managers to bring ideas like this to life.