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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 04 Apr 2017 03:31

Admin Saars: If anyone of you are reading this....we are having the SAME discussion in two separate threads. Can we move the posts from here to the Vikrant thread, please?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Austin » 04 Apr 2017 23:49

First Indian submariners complete Scorpène training
Gabriel Dominguez, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
04 April 2017
http://www.janes.com/article/69284/firs ... e-training
The first of two crews of Indian submariners for the Kalvari (Scorpène)-class diesel-electric submarines being licence-built for the Indian Navy (IN) has completed its training, according to a 4 April press statement issued by Défense Conseil International (DCI): the reference operator of the French Ministry of Defence for the transfer of French military know-how to international partners.

The move is part of the P-75 programme, launched between India and France in October 2005, which also covers the construction of six Kalvari (Scorpène)-class submarines by the Indian shipyard Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai.

The training, which was performed by DCI from September 2015 on land, and then on board the submarine at the dockside and at sea, covered the boat's equipment and systems in accordance with current French Navy standards.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby brar_w » 05 Apr 2017 18:45

Indian MoD clears import of 100 Barak-1 SR-SAMs Jane's Defence Weekly April/2017



India's Ministry of Defence (MoD) approved procurements worth INR8.6 billion (USD132.3 million) on 3 April that include 100 Israel Aerospace Industries/Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Barak-1 short-range surface-to-air missiles (SR-SAMs) for INR5 billion for the Indian Navy (IN), MoD officials told Jane's .

The procurement approval by the MoD's Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) took place ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Israel in July 2017: the first ever by an Indian prime minister.

The DAC also sanctioned the import from the United States of anti-mine equipment, as well as of expendable Bathy thermographic systems for the IN for INR3.1 billion to detect underwater temperature changes.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Karthik S » 05 Apr 2017 19:58

http://www.defencenews.in/article/To-fi ... ers-251379

To meet the urgent helicopter requirement of the Indian Navy, India is expected to discuss acquiring Sea King CH-124 helicopters during the coming visit of Canada’s defence minister Harjit Sajjan. Speaking to FE on condition of anonymity, sources said: “At this time Canada is in the process of decommissioning four of its Sea King CH-124 helicopters. These four have very little hours of flying logged in, and four that were decommissioned last December were recently upgraded.” The helicopters, though being decommissioned, are still in condition of being flown.

“The Indian Navy has Sea King helicopters that have reached the end of their lives and are constantly being upgraded. The Indian side is likely to talk about these machines as these could bridge the gap and to support the depleting Indian Navy fleet as the acquisition process for new helicopters is not making any headway,” they added. Several procurement processes under various categories of helicopters, naval utility, multi-role helicopter (MRH), naval multi-role helicopter (NMRH), are all stuck due to re tendering or blacklisting of AgustaWestland.

Price negotiations for 16 MRHs with Sikorsky S-70B multi-role helicopters were stuck initially due to difference in base pricing and later the company was taken over by Lockheed Martin, which has further complicated things. Officials said that this deal will also guide the process for procurement of the much larger deal 126 NMRHs. The tender for over 100 NUHs was reissued last year but the shadow of AgustaWestland threatens it. The depleting fleet of the Indian Navy search & rescue helicopters — AW Sea Kings and the Sikorsky UH-3H — are both lined up for the life extension. Every major warship is earmarked to carry at least two helicopters on board to be deployed in various roles. But the last multi-role helicopter to join the fleet was two decades ago.

However, replacements for these are yet come. The Indian Navy needs over 100 MRHs to be positioned on board its most important warships; however it has just about two dozen operational helicopters. These helicopters play a critical role of hunting submarines, taking on threats like enemy ships and sending early warnings about incoming aircraft and missiles to the fleet.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya G » 05 Apr 2017 22:17

This is the right step though late. Even UK retired some recently and I believe even pakis were in the hunt for them

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby brar_w » 06 Apr 2017 20:19

On the IAC-2 and EMALS front, General Atomics confirmed at this weeks Sea-Air Space show that the US Government has recently granted them licence to export EMALS and AAG to India, the first one granted by GOTUS for these systems.

https://youtu.be/1B-vNx_WUoQ?t=393

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 06 Apr 2017 23:14

X-posting for completeness...

Austin wrote:India contracts IAI for nearly USD2 billion of air and missile defence systems

http://www.janes.com/article/69373/indi ... ce-systems

The contract, which IAI values at between USD1.6 billion and USD2 billion, will see the Medium-Range Surface-to-Air Missile (MR-SAM) system delivered to the Indian Army, and additional Long-Range Surface-to-Air Missile (LR-SAM) systems delivered to the Indian Navy (IN).

MR-SAM has been co-developed by Rafael and IAI's Elta division in conjunction with India's domestic industry and state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as a development of the Barak 8 (Lightning) missile system (now re-designated Barak Long-Range [LR]). The system has a range of 70-80 km, and is comprised of an advanced 360 degree phased-array radar, command and control systems, mobile launchers, and radar-guided missiles. As previously reported by Jane's, the MR-SAM deal envisages five missile regiments comprising 40 firing units and 200 missiles, with deliveries expected to begin in 2023.

The Barak 8 will initially provide air and missile defence for the INS Kolkata , INS Kochi , and INS Chennai guided missile destroyers. The follow-on deal announced by IAI is for systems to equip the service's first domestically-built aircraft carrier; INS Vikrant . Officers have told Jane's that the LR-SAM is capable of simultaneously tracking multiple seaborne targets out to 25 km and fighter aircraft out to 250 km. Modelled around a multi-functional phased-array radar, the system comprises command and control systems, vertical launchers, and missiles.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 07 Apr 2017 01:57

brar_w wrote:On the IAC-2 and EMALS front, General Atomics confirmed at this weeks Sea-Air Space show that the US Government has recently granted them licence to export EMALS and AAG to India, the first one granted by GOTUS for these systems.

https://youtu.be/1B-vNx_WUoQ?t=393

Haven't seen the video yet but Brar warrior you stated it just as a FYI statement. This is big. Can rafale be launched using it or is it only for F-18.
My understanding is that at a high level EMAL works like a "railgun" so it would depend upon the magnetic properties of fighter. Are the composite content of F18 and Rafale similar( I would assume it to be higher, as it is quite compact).

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby brar_w » 07 Apr 2017 02:00

EMALS will launch any aircraft that can take off of from the Steam Catapult but as of now only the Hornet, Super Hornet and F-35 are cleared. Yes, export clearance for these two technologies is a major development and a very crucial approval given the fact that these are two systems not yet operational in the US Navy, and not cleared for export to any other customer.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 07 Apr 2017 04:35

Karthik S wrote:http://www.defencenews.in/article/To-fill-urgent-Indian-Navy-need,-Centre-eyes-Canada%E2%80%99s-used-Sea-King-helicopters-251379

To meet the urgent helicopter requirement of the Indian Navy, India is expected to discuss acquiring Sea King CH-124 helicopters during the coming visit of Canada’s defence minister Harjit Sajjan. Speaking to FE on condition of anonymity, sources said: “At this time Canada is in the process of decommissioning four of its Sea King CH-124 helicopters. These four have very little hours of flying logged in, and four that were decommissioned last December were recently upgraded.” The helicopters, though being decommissioned, are still in condition of being flown.

“The Indian Navy has Sea King helicopters that have reached the end of their lives and are constantly being upgraded. The Indian side is likely to talk about these machines as these could bridge the gap and to support the depleting Indian Navy fleet as the acquisition process for new helicopters is not making any headway,” they added. Several procurement processes under various categories of helicopters, naval utility, multi-role helicopter (MRH), naval multi-role helicopter (NMRH), are all stuck due to re tendering or blacklisting of AgustaWestland.

Price negotiations for 16 MRHs with Sikorsky S-70B multi-role helicopters were stuck initially due to difference in base pricing and later the company was taken over by Lockheed Martin, which has further complicated things. Officials said that this deal will also guide the process for procurement...


8 Sea King CH-124, still with lots of airframe life, are available. Plus, 16 Sikorsky S-70B being procured. Total 24 units.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 07 Apr 2017 05:15

brar_w wrote:EMALS will launch any aircraft that can take off of from the Steam Catapult but as of now only the Hornet, Super Hornet and F-35 are cleared. Yes, export clearance for these two technologies is a major development and a very crucial approval given the fact that these are two systems not yet operational in the US Navy, and not cleared for export to any other customer.

Thanks Brar.
Sometimes i wonder we should try for some type of use and throw rocket assisted take offs, if launch is the only issue. With our success with launch vehicles and missiles it should not be beyond our reach. Desi jugad for launching fully loaded aircrafts.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Neshant » 07 Apr 2017 06:40

Britain, India Will Cooperate With Each Other To Build Aircraft Carriers: British Navy Chief

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2sJM1kF2mg

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 07 Apr 2017 06:52

Neshant wrote:Britain, India Will Cooperate With Each Other To Build Aircraft Carriers: British Navy Chief

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2sJM1kF2mg

They way UK is going in two decades they may be able to learn from us

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Singha » 07 Apr 2017 08:12

another PLAN LPD rolls off the assembly line

https://sputniknews.com/military/201704 ... -pla-navy/

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ShauryaT » 07 Apr 2017 08:34

Revisiting the 1946 Royal Indian Navy mutiny

The Royal Indian Navy mutiny was arguably the single most important event in convincing the British government that it could no longer hold on to India


The RIN revolt started on 18 February 1946 in Bombay. The naval ratings on HMIS Talwar protested against the poor quality of food and racial discrimination by British officers. The protest spread rapidly to the Castle and Fort barracks on shore, and to 22 ships in Bombay harbour. By the following evening, a naval central strike committee had been elected. The mutineers took out a procession in Bombay, holding aloft a portrait of Subhas Bose. Their ships also raised the flags of the Congress, Muslim League and Communist Party.

The demands advanced by the naval central strike committee combined service grievances with wider national concerns. The latter included the release of INA (Indian National Army) personnel and other political prisoners; withdrawal of Indian troops from Indonesia; and the acceptance of Indian officers only as superiors. Ratings in striking naval establishments outside Bombay echoed these themes. The strike spread to other naval establishments around the country. At its height, 78 ships, 20 shore establishments, and 20,000 ratings were involved in the uprising. The revolt at various locations was coordinated by signal communication equipment on board HMIS Talwar.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 07 Apr 2017 08:46

Singha wrote:another PLAN LPD rolls off the assembly line

https://sputniknews.com/military/201704 ... -pla-navy/

Interesting development. Need to see how much mileage the Chinese can get out of possible bases in Sri Lanka and the Maldives, apart from Gawadar.

Basing of Chinese navy ships in Sri Lanka and the Maldives would be a hostile act against India and air strikes to take out those ports would have to be kept on the table as an option in case things get hot.

If China really wants war with India - it is going to put pressure on sea lanes as well as on the land border

But what is this news doing in the INDIAN navy thread - it should be on the China Mil thread. We really should stick to IN here rather than sparking rivers of tears and browned pants in this thread.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 07 Apr 2017 09:09

Navy deploys amphibious warship in Indian Ocean in view of China's assertiveness

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby RohitAM » 08 Apr 2017 00:42

I think when we are discussing the potential threats (PLAN and PN) and their projected force structures, we should keep in mind the timelines that we are addressing, as well as our overall force structure. Gurus have mentioned 2-3 AC's, 40-50 subs, around 20 DDG's, 30-40 FFG's, and several smaller surface combatants (corvettes etc.). While all of this is desirable, and the defense budget (and subsequently the IN's allocation) should be made much larger, I do believe that what we should look to do first are the following:

1- We have one massive naval base which is being expanded, which is Karwar. Vizag is our second largest port, but we either need to expand this further, or potentially create a much larger A&N Naval command and base (for extended forward presence and coverage in the SCS), if we are looking to have more than 2 carriers in service, as well as the suggested force numbers, because the auxillary vessel numbers will go up as well (LPD's, replenishment ships, fleet tankers etc.). It might also be prudent to look at developing other deep water ports, even abroad (Trincomalee, SL comes to mind). How many ports do we have apart from Karwar which can dock a 65k ton AC along with its entire CBG, and how many ports can accommodate two 50-55k ton AC's along with their CBG's, as well as other naval vessels?

2- We need to massively expand our shipbuilding capacity, as well as institutionalize those skills in the workers, along with developing Tier 2 and 3 suppliers who can provide equipment for ship fitting on a priority basis, rather than having to sit on their haunches waiting for even regular equipment, material etc. to come from abroad. Building a DDG in 8 years is, to put it very simply, an absolute shame for a country aspiring to be a world power (supposed to be No.2 in economic terms in 20-30 years) - that building time should be nothing more than 2-3 years per ship, and these should be built concurrently, whether at the same shipyard, or at different shipyards. Budgeted allocation spread over several years would both allow for leeway in financial support (and not bring cries of lack of money), as well as provide greater flexibility in terms of using those said finances.

3- Standardize ship types with open architecture structures and the capacity for incremental improvements during refits. For example, having 3-4 FFG types, each numbering 3, is poor planning (stems from our MoD inefficiency and retarded thought processes, as well as the sheer inability of our shipyards to churn out hulls at a faster rate) - if 3 FFG ships are going to become available in 12-13 years since design freeze when being produced in-country, it is no wonder that the Navy will go for foreign procurement of a different type. There should be at best TWO versions of any specific type in service, depending on configuration (ASW, Land attack, Air defense etc.). We are slowly moving towards that for surface combatants (Project 17 and 17A, and the Talwar class for the FFG standardization), but the submarine arm is suffering woefully from this lack of planning, and it doesn't look like it will be fixed even a decade from now.

4- Fire the Congress-era, license raj-era, and penny pinching i***ts from the MoD and bring in much more forward thinking, better educated collection of bureaucrats who understand the threats the Armed Forces, and by extension the nation, are facing because of the sheer inability of the MoD Babus to provide clearances for absolutely necessary purchases. I still wonder as to how these people even sleep at night - maybe they are too anti-national and too well cocooned in their comforts to think about anything beyond their next holiday sojourn on black money.

If this sounds too much like a rant, then its rant over. I'll revisit it if I think of something more.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya G » 08 Apr 2017 02:41

shiv wrote:
Navy deploys amphibious warship in Indian Ocean in view of China's assertiveness

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst


The Navy is very a proactive, visible and always deployed force in the IOR. Recently we have made our presence felt in the Indo-China Sea (more commonly known as South China Sea) as well.

All this patrolling consumes machine hours and puts men, material and onshore supply chain under pressure. This is good for the force, but in this instance I do wonder if INS Shardul - a LST - was the first choice to conduct the patrol. Perhaps we are missing surface warfare ships such as OPVs and corvettes?

Following is the position of the IN's order book in the present day:

01 Aircraft Carrier Project-71 Vikrant Class
04 Destroyer Project-15B Vishakapatnam Class
07 Frigate Project-17A
04 Frigate Grigorovich-class
02 Corvette (ASW) Project-28 Kamorta Class
05 OPV Project-21
01 FAC FOWJAC Car Nicobar Class
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24
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02 SSBN ATV Arihant Class
06 Submarine Project-75 Scorpene
02 Submarine Strategic Operating Vessel
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10 + 2 DSRV
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07 LCU LCU Mark IV
03 Training Ship CTS
01 P-11184 Ocean Surveilance Ship
01 Research Ship - cochin sy
03 Survey Makar Class
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15
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From above fighting ships including the LCUs is under 40, probably the thinnest order book in years.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chola » 08 Apr 2017 02:52

Adityaji, you are unfortunately astute in this case, the INS Shardul will not do much against chini assertiveness.

In this thread, looking at the pictures of the PLAN's new LPD that Singha posted versus the Shardul cannot help but be a good excuse to dhoti shiver.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 08 Apr 2017 10:25

Picking up old Canadian Sea Kings,Malaysian MIG-29s...well I suppose "beggars can't be choosers"! This underscores the grim reality that we're very cash short for milware if we're picking up scraps from other nations' dustbins. Therefore,keeping this in mind,upgrading existing legacy eqpt. that still has reasonable life left in them across the board is the only solution for now. I'm sure that there are many more KA-28/31s also available with Russia,as new ones are supposedly on order apart from upgrades of the entire lot.But these are only interim solutions. The GOI must take a quick G-to-G decision reg. the 100+ naval helos meant for our frigates and destroyers,choosing between one US and two EU options. With such a alrge number,at least 2/3rds can be manufactured here at the rate of at least 12/yr.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby kmkraoind » 08 Apr 2017 12:53

N Chandrababu Naidu @ncbn
The heaviest and fastest flying Turbo prop in the world TU-142 to be converted into a museum and placed at Beach Road, Vizag.
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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Bala Vignesh » 08 Apr 2017 12:58

kmkraoind wrote:N Chandrababu Naidu @ncbn
The heaviest and fastest flying Turbo prop in the world TU-142 to be converted into a museum and placed at Beach Road, Vizag.
Image

Damn good move this!! The way Chandrababu is going, the beach road in Vizag would soon be a strolling naval museum..

I hope and pray that they keep at least one of those massive engines in working condition and do a demo of its star up..

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Austin » 08 Apr 2017 15:24

http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india-7 ... ion-376117

Out of the total defence outlay of Rs 2.74 lakh crore, only Rs 86,488 crore has been earmarked for modernization, with the bulk of this capital outlay set to go into payment of "committed liabilities" of earlier arms contracts and not for new projects.

The Navy, for example, has been allocated Rs 18,000 crore as the capital budget against a committed liability of Rs 22,000 crore for 2017-18.

Contrary to its plans to be a 212-warship and 458-aircraft force by 2027, the Navy is currently managing with just 138 warships and 235 aircraft at present, with most of them ageing.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby SRoy » 08 Apr 2017 19:05

Bala Vignesh wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:N Chandrababu Naidu @ncbn
The heaviest and fastest flying Turbo prop in the world TU-142 to be converted into a museum and placed at Beach Road, Vizag.
Image

Damn good move this!! The way Chandrababu is going, the beach road in Vizag would soon be a strolling naval museum..

I hope and pray that they keep at least one of those massive engines in working condition and do a demo of its star up..


Flown in by one of my chaddi buddies. In our KV group in WhatsApp, he just shared the commendation letter from CBN.

We passed out from one of the KVs in Vizag, so this is a very proud moment for him

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Singha » 08 Apr 2017 20:08

a prophetic pic in two ways
- behind the airbus is a boeing the P8i chassis which is the next generation
- peace and civilian life as exemplified by the two planes can only happen behind a guardian , a dark knight and silent protector like the bear

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Cain Marko » 08 Apr 2017 21:01

Dark Knight, guardian etc... Sounds fine, but silent? Not so sure saar :)

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby malushahi » 09 Apr 2017 00:12

is this 971 or something else?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya G » 09 Apr 2017 01:55

malushahi wrote:is this 971 or something else?


Looks like a boat with 4 silos.

What is 971?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby malushahi » 09 Apr 2017 02:24

can you actually see the silos? 4 would make it desi.

a 971 has a longish silo-field ahead of the mast, so wanted to be doubly-sure this was not one of those.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Neshant » 09 Apr 2017 03:39

India should lobby Russia to buy to buy a Made in India carrier of the Vishal class.
If they order one or two Vishals, it will lower the overall costs for both countries.
They are admittedly aiming for a heavy weight carrier (95,000 tons) whereas Vishal (current design) has it tipping the scales at (65,000 tons).
So Vishal would be somewhat smaller.

However if India is to preserve a long term defense relationship with Russia, there should be mutual purchases of each other's defense gear.
Not just a one way street where India buys and buys and buys Russian armaments but nothing flows the other way to balance the expense.
Its time to start exporting some of our defense services/hardware and talking about a balanced trade defense relationship.

Its the only thing that will work long term.


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby arvin » 09 Apr 2017 07:43

Bala Vignesh wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:N Chandrababu Naidu @ncbn
The heaviest and fastest flying Turbo prop in the world TU-142 to be converted into a museum and placed at Beach Road, Vizag.

Damn good move this!! The way Chandrababu is going, the beach road in Vizag would soon be a strolling naval museum..



So True. If Viraat also comes along, then a Foxtrot, Viraat and Tu-142 along a single stretch of road will truely be a sight to behold. Since MOD has rejected 50 % offer stake in Viraat museum, I think CBN should approach filmi types for funding. With shiv sena also jumping on the bandwagon to convert it into museum, hoping that the ship wont go the Vikrant way of ending in the scrapyard.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya G » 09 Apr 2017 14:30

malushahi wrote:can you actually see the silos? 4 would make it desi.

a 971 has a longish silo-field ahead of the mast, so wanted to be doubly-sure this was not one of those.


Chakra has a tear drop shaped fairing for the towed array on the fin.

I am judging 4 silos based on the 4 alternating 'hinges':

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ashishvikas » 09 Apr 2017 14:40

#AR17: BEL is supplying an integrated sonar suite for S3 & S4, i.e INS Arihant's follow-ons.

S3 & S4 are in making ??

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 5186481153

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ashishvikas » 09 Apr 2017 14:42

Preparatory work for 3 P-17A Frigates was already underway in GRSE, Kolkata by 2016. The frigates were ordered in 2015.

GRSE, Kolkata will lay the keel for the first P-17A this year, i.e 2017.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby kit » 09 Apr 2017 16:50

ashishvikas wrote:#AR17: BEL is supplying an integrated sonar suite for S3 & S4, i.e INS Arihant's follow-ons.

S3 & S4 are in making ??

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 5186481153


the hulls of all the successor subs of Arihant is ready ..they can induct it at one per year if everything goes well .. this has a high priority

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chola » 09 Apr 2017 16:59

kit wrote:
ashishvikas wrote:#AR17: BEL is supplying an integrated sonar suite for S3 & S4, i.e INS Arihant's follow-ons.

S3 & S4 are in making ??

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 5186481153


the hulls of all the successor subs of Arihant is ready ..they can induct it at one per year if everything goes well .. this has a high priority



I must have missed the news on this one but it doesn't sound right from a planning perspective. Building the hull and ordering of equipment should roughly converge with outfitting a year after hull completion. Building all four hulls and then inducting them one a year makes no sense since it would making that last hull sit around for years with all the maintenance issues associated.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Prasad » 09 Apr 2017 21:01

Sequential building from what I remember.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Karthik S » 09 Apr 2017 21:12

Jan 3, 2016 article:

India’s second nuclear powered submarine, INS Aridhaman is being readied for launch as her elder sibbling INS Arihant is being readied for commissioning.

Both submarines are designed to carry Nuclear Missiles. Built under the Advanced Technology Vessel Project, the Aridhaman is being outfitted as the Ship Building Centre in Vizag and is expected to be launched in the third quarter of 2016.

INS Arihant’s harbour and deep sea dives have been successful and the submarine that can carry 750-km range ballistic missiles is ready to be commissioned in early 2016 and showcased to the world during the International Fleet Review (IFR) to be held in Visakhapatnam from February 4. According to the original schedule, INS Arihant which was ceremonially launched on July 26, 2009 was supposed to go for sea trials in 2010 and be inducted by 2011.

As soon as the Arihant is commissioned the focus will be on the second submarine. The hull fabrication of the third Arihant-class submarine has also been completed,” said a Navy source. If everything goes as per schedule, INS Aridhaman after clearing trials will join the Indian Navy by 2018-end, he said.

The Arihant Class of Submarines are based on the design of Russian Akula class vessels.

India will be having a fleet of following numbers of Nuclear Submarines in near future :
4 SSBN’s of Arihant Class + S5 SSBN’s apart from 6 new SSN’s + INS Chakra and 1 more to be leased from Russia

INS Varsha Naval Base ::

Also the work on INS Varsha is on full swing according to recent satellite images. INS Varsha is a new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the Indian Navy. This base will be the home of the navy’s new fleet of nuclear submarines and ships. It is designed to support the fleet of 8-12 nuclear-powered ballistic missile and attack submarines to be built for the Indian Navy. It will also have underground pens to hide the submarines from spy satellites and protect them from enemy air attacks.



http://defenceupdate.in/construction-in ... submarine/
http://defenceupdate.in/indias-2nd-nucl ... s-arihant/

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Singha » 09 Apr 2017 21:49

Hull sections are easy to weld and store. Its fitting out and finally mating them which can take time.
Sevmash now has 4 yasen and multiple borei going on in parallel. Read their wiki entries for start dates


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