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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Indranil » 06 Oct 2017 22:06

Philip wrote:Delayed again? Delays due to absence of torpedoes is entirely the MOD's fault,blacklisting all group cos of AW instead of just the helo division/co.
Sea trials requiring some glitches to be ironed out another matter.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/India ... ine-383957
India’s Second Scorpene Advanced Attack Submarine Misses Induction Deadline

That article seems to make a mountain of an ant hill. The production is on time. The sea trials of the first two of its kind is slightly behind schedule (a few months). This is news? In defense? How do you tolerate such nonsense Philip sir?

Yes, we have tied ourselves into knots regarding the torpedoes.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby dinesh_kimar » 06 Oct 2017 22:31

^ To all Gurus (Philip Sir, Indranil, etc.) we have bought Harpoons for Type 209 submarines. It is possible to fit them on only 2 subs, the latter 2 which were assembled locally. Some literature on the Harpoon suggests that it is compatible on all NATO 553 mm tubes. Why is this may I ask?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 07 Oct 2017 07:54

Must read article by Saurav Jha on DRDO's AIP plug for the Scorpene SSKs (and Project 75I as well)....

Indian Navy looks forward To DRDO’s Air Independent Propulsion system for submarines
http://www.delhidefencereview.com/2017/ ... ubmarines/

Tech gurus, please provide your inputs as well.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Eric Leiderman » 07 Oct 2017 11:58

In one of the graphics they show the requirement for air which is then refined to oxygen, The submarine when submerged has a limited supply of air so for a 10 to 12 day propulsion package where are you getting the air. (ballast tanks?)

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ashish raval » 07 Oct 2017 12:20

HMS Albion and HMS bulwark are now taken off the service due to defense cuts in UK. India should seriously think about getting deal on them as they are fine ships..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/06/royalnavy-could-lose-beach-landing-ships-next-round-defence/

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 07 Oct 2017 15:19

Yes.I posted the same,about the 16 yr old RN amhpibs in good condition,which we can buy immediately if the RN as reported id retiring them due to budget cuts.These 20,000 LPDs can save us a lot of moolah which can be spent upon another carrier.To further make-up for amphib reqs.,I suggest that we buy merchant ship std. Ro-Ro ferries,which are freely available worldwide,can transport MBTs,arty,large radars,etc.,virtually any kind of AV,missiles,etc.I've travelled on sev. of these in Europe and they would be fantastic ships for supporting amphb ops. Modular weapon systems for AA defence can be fitted if taken out from merchant duties in any crisis.The upper decks normally used for passrs. will be for troops.Some fast ferries like Super-Cats,would be rgeat. The USN has obtained fom Oz,fast catamarans for support/logistic reqs.

Full report on the AIP system.If proven,a great achievement.Ideally,we should test it on an old sub,but we have so few subs that even the ancient 25yr old subs are being sent for their second refit! At least the AIP plug can be built and tested UW in a pontoon/barge as we've done with the missile tests.

Decision to install NMRL's Air Independent Propulsion System taken for all 6 Scorpene Subs
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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chola » 07 Oct 2017 15:43

^^^ Fantastic news. If we can “plug” the NMRL's AIP in during a refit, it would be a rare feat anywhere! I think Sweden (the first AIP sub producer) was able to retrofit a few earlier subs with AIP. But most are built with AIP from the ground up. I wonder if it would be worth doung for our remaining Kilos.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 07 Oct 2017 16:24

Would be better on the new subs,as the Kilos are almost 25-30 yrs old! It would also be more difficult on old subs with older eqpt. less automation,etc.
There was an earlier recent report that we were looking at some sort of JV with Ru for the same,as both were developing similar AIP systems.If we are really just around the corner in fine-tuning the system,a great achievement.The GOI/MOD must also boost the IN's R&D capability in UW warfare by giving it funds to develop/build research subs,which could be smaller in size to perfect new tech for sonars/sensors,weapons,AIP systems,etc.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Prasad » 07 Oct 2017 16:44

Philip,
Edit your post and remove that stuff please. *It's a direct lift from DDR site and against copyright.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ambati » 07 Oct 2017 16:49

Eric Leiderman wrote:In one of the graphics they show the requirement for air which is then refined to oxygen, The submarine when submerged has a limited supply of air so for a 10 to 12 day propulsion package where are you getting the air. (ballast tanks?)

Hi
In fuel cell there is no combustion. you only split the molecule and move the electrons and generate electricity. I think oxygen is used for some other purpose other then combustion

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 08 Oct 2017 08:55

Rice Rich Diet Of Indian Navy’s Newly Recruited Candidates Stuns Officers
http://topyaps.com/indian-navy-rice

Recruitment officers were left stunned at the Indore Stadium in Chattisgarh’s capital city Raipur, when they saw a group of prospective Indian Navy candidates excel in their physical fitness examinations despite following a rice-rich regular diet. While inclusion of rice in limited quantity is normal but what startled the officers was the fact that these youngsters, who mainly belong to the Naxal-torn regions of Sukma, Bijapur and other nearby places, have rice thrice daily as part of their regular diet yet are able to maintain a fit and slim body.

These 88 youngsters had all passed their written examinations and had also successfully taken part in the one-and-a-half kilometer race that was part of the physical fitness test. All of them have been recruited by the Indian Navy. It was the second day of the recruitment process. The total number of youngsters selected from the zone this year is 250. They are to be recruited to the various branches of the Naval forces, after the mandatory training. The process of recruitment started early in the morning at 5:30 am on Wednesday at the Raipur Indore Stadium. While most of the people passed the written examination, the physical efficiency and resistance of the 88 youth stunned even the medical officers involved in the recruitment process.

According to Vikram and Rajesh, who successfully passed the physical test, rice has always been a part of their daily diet. They never needed anything to “build their bodies” with; living in close proximity to nature in wild forests was enough to make them fit and strong. They even highlighted the fact that the word “fat” never occurred to them or to the other villagers. After this selection, these youths will receive further training at the Central Camp of the Indian Navy located on the Chilka Lake in Odisha. Practical military training will be imparted there.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby sum » 08 Oct 2017 10:54

I guess most of the non-western world maintain a rice diet and still are pretty healthy.

Places like Korea and Japan also have rice 3 times a day and im sure noone will call them unhealthy

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 08 Oct 2017 10:59

Western medical/physiological science has gone completely apeshit on protein and like Arab who can think of nothing but sex people can think of nothing but "protein" as in meat in diet. Stupidity. All we desis have to do is look around at our labourers - but my own ilk, doctors close their eyes and read western stuff about dietetics and talk shit.

Yes you can overload with protein and get bulging muscles but that is not the same as strength and fitness

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 08 Oct 2017 11:08

sum wrote:I guess most of the non-western world maintain a rice diet and still are pretty healthy.

Places like Korea and Japan also have rice 3 times a day and im sure noone will call them unhealthy


best not to generalize.

there are communities where as a matter of practice and requirement they visit the toilet to pass stools just once a week.

This bit of info would have caused the Recruitment officers who were left stunned at the Indore Stadium in Chattisgarh’s capital city Raipur, to fall unconscious or perhaps some to even die of shock.

rice is always available, especially in the south and east so why were such recruitments folk surprised?? Poor people will eat whatever they can afford and what ever is locally available within their restricted budgets.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby negi » 08 Oct 2017 11:15

Entire coastal belt eats rice 3 times a day in some form or the other; of all the services IN attracts a lot of people from SI states so I am surprised at such a patronizing tone of this article. At the time of recruitment all the candidates are in their early 20s at that age you can eat anything and everything and one won't have a belly to show , only couch potatoes or those with some health conditions have a belly .

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rahul M » 08 Oct 2017 11:31

I have a naga friend who eats 2 mountains of rice for lunch & dinner plus alchohol to boot. he is all lean muscle & incredibly fit (100m in ~ 14-15 sec). he is around 35 YO.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby sum » 08 Oct 2017 11:50

chetak wrote:
sum wrote:I guess most of the non-western world maintain a rice diet and still are pretty healthy.

Places like Korea and Japan also have rice 3 times a day and im sure noone will call them unhealthy


best not to generalize.

there are communities where as a matter of practice and requirement they visit the toilet to pass stools just once a week.

This bit of info would have caused the Recruitment officers who were left stunned at the Indore Stadium in Chattisgarh’s capital city Raipur, to fall unconscious or perhaps some to even die of shock.

rice is always available, especially in the south and east so why were such recruitments folk surprised?? Poor people will eat whatever they can afford and what ever is locally available within their restricted budgets.

Yep. That's why was surprised at tone of the article

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 11 Oct 2017 19:10

https://sputniknews.com/asia/2017101010 ... -corvette/
Full details in the link.

Indian Navy to Get Third Anti-Submarine Corvette Soon © AP Photo/ Bikas Das
ASIA & PACIFIC
17:07 10.10.2017
It is yet not clear whether the third corvette will have all the critical 18 weapons and sensors which were supposed to be fitted in the four ships of Project 28.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/2017100410 ... submarine/
"Severe damage" to the sonar dome likely says this report.NO off. news whatsoever from the IN.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby yensoy » 11 Oct 2017 19:28

sum wrote:
chetak wrote:
best not to generalize...
rice is always available, especially in the south and east so why were such recruitments folk surprised?? Poor people will eat whatever they can afford and what ever is locally available within their restricted budgets.

Yep. That's why was surprised at tone of the article


Seriously, this is the kind of thinking one expects in Pakistan - how can those rice-eating Bengalis ever fight like us nan and meat eating supermen. Coastal India, as has been mentioned, is huge into rice and has produced some fierce martial races and victories, as has Assam & NE. The questions are what is eaten with the rice, and how is the body exercised.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Vips » 12 Oct 2017 03:56

Cochin Shipyard set to win Rs5,400-cr India Navy contract.

Cochin Shipyard (CSL) is all set to win a Rs5,400-crore order from the Indian Navy for the construction and supply of eight battle ships worth over Rs5400 crore, in a tightly contested competitive bidding.

CSL has emerged as the lowest (L1) bidder for designing and building of anti-submarine warfare shallow water craft (ASW-SWC) for Indian Navy. The contract for eight vessels at a cost of about Rs5,400 crore is expected to be concluded with the ministry of defence in due process.

The order was won against competitive bidding in a tender issued by the defence ministry, in which both private and public sector shipbuilders had participated.

The company will start delivering two vessels every year after 42 months of concluding all formalities. Cochin Shipyard will start receiving an advance from the Navy once milestones such steel cutting for the vessel are accomplished.

The company is also likely to receive order for phase III of the aircraft carrier, :?: which is likely to be around Rs 10,900 crore. It believes these orders give strong revenue visibility to Cochin Shipyard till FY23.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 12 Oct 2017 12:18

2 vessels/yr after 42 months of negotiations? This is absurd! These vessels are supposed to be just 700t+.One an understand building them at a rate of 2/yr OK.China is building corvettes larger than these ASW craft one every 2-3 months! "42" months for negotiations is 3.5 yrs. There must be something wrong with the report or the MOD the world's finest torture chamber.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya_V » 12 Oct 2017 12:40

I think 42 months lead time is acceptable, China also has lead time. Chinese orders are much larger so they can build, also don't the Chinese use CODAG instead of CODOG.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 12 Oct 2017 22:23

There is a mystifying point about the yard chosen to design the vessels,etc.! How can the cost be determined when no design exists?!
The competing yards should've first provided their design/s based upon the ASW corvette' s specs which was laid down in the tender.A basic design showing key elements of the vessel like dimensions,sensors armament,machinery specs.,etc. should've accompanied the offer.It isn't the equiv of weighing the vessel,"700+t" and fixing a rate as in a bag of rice! When we competed for the Phillipines navy FFG tender which we first won but lost later becos of some issue reg. bank guarantee/funds availability of the yard, a fudge in my opinion to scuttle an Indian breakthrough into the naval global shipbuilding market,we provided a design.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 12 Oct 2017 23:26

What I don't get is why are they calling 700 t boats as battle ships?

Has the mighty Cochin shipyard supposed to build large tonnage ships reduced to build boats nay crafts?

Philip the 42 months is to create the design and the lead up to it. I don't think there is a detail design.

Added later.

I red the news report posted by Vips.

Looks like Cochin Shipyard has become a major ship repair facility as its two time more profitable than as ship building. :(

I wonder what the people who argued for a ship building yard have to say about this turnoff events.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chola » 13 Oct 2017 00:28

^^^ I see “battleship” used all the time in the DDM whether the vessel in question is a destroyer, frigate, OPV or a minesweeper.

Don’t expect correct terminology from the dork media unless you want to tear your hair out.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chola » 13 Oct 2017 01:19

Great news!!! Navy say fully operational by 2019. As opposed to previous CAG report that said 2023 before flight ops can begin.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/ins-vikrant-navy-chief-reviews-construction-of-indias-indegenious-aircraft-carrier-2049749.html

Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba on Thursday reviewed the construction of the country's first indigenous aircraft carrier - Vikrant, at the Cochin Shipyard. The Navy expects the 40,000-tonne aircraft carrier to be fully operational by 2019.



Encouraging hints from IN about the NLCA? Or just the DDM adding stuff from a previous fact sheet that was handed out years ago?

The ship, which is designed to survive attack by nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, puts India in the elite group of nations like the US, Russia, the UK and France that are capable of designing and constructing aircraft carriers. Once complete, it would be able to accommodate 12 MiG-29Ks, eight Tejas Light Combat Aircrafts and 10 helicopters, and is expected to have a range of 7,500 nautical miles at 18 knots speed.

At an allocated cost of Rs 20,000 crore, its construction - approved first in 2003 - has, however, suffered numerous delays and has taken a toll on Navy resources.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby tsarkar » 13 Oct 2017 08:37

Philip wrote:There is a mystifying point about the yard chosen to design the vessels,etc.! How can the cost be determined when no design exists?!
The competing yards should've first provided their design/s based upon the ASW corvette' s specs which was laid down in the tender.A basic design showing key elements of the vessel like dimensions,sensors armament,machinery specs.,etc. should've accompanied the offer.

All bidders submitted their designs as per RFP specifications.

CSL delivered 20 ICG IPV well ahead of schedule and they're highly stable seaworthy platforms.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 13 Oct 2017 11:03

Tsk., Tx. for the clarification.The report about "designing" etc. during the negotiations phase didn't make sense at all. IAC-1,Given a yr. for trials and a workup of aircraft etc.,2018 may be when she is handed over to the IN. The Q hat will be asked more and more from now on what is the follow-up plan for IAC-2 and in waht timeframe given the huge demands from other branches of the IN.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Pratyush » 13 Oct 2017 16:44

Am looking at the potential 700 ton ASW Corvette. I am not sure that the ships will be competitive in the current environment and proliferation of sub launched ASM makes the utility of a boat of this nature some what questionable.

To me a platform with 2 anti sub helos at minimum would be required. A ship of this capabilities is not really possible at 700 tons. It needs to grow bigger to may be the typical OPV size. Or the kamoratta class.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby JayS » 13 Oct 2017 16:58

ramana wrote:What I don't get is why are they calling 700 t boats as battle ships?

Has the mighty Cochin shipyard supposed to build large tonnage ships reduced to build boats nay crafts?

Philip the 42 months is to create the design and the lead up to it. I don't think there is a detail design.

Added later.

I red the news report posted by Vips.

Looks like Cochin Shipyard has become a major ship repair facility as its two time more profitable than as ship building. :(

I wonder what the people who argued for a ship building yard have to say about this turnoff events.


^^ Interestingly the winning design is done by a desi company called SEDS: http://www.marinedesigners.com/new/
They have done design, while CSL has responsibility to convert it to production drawings and manufacture. 12 on Order and 12 more could come in future.

Looks like SEDS has worked on ASW SWC as well. As per wiki:
The GRSE ASW-SWC corvettes are anti submarine warfare vessels ordered for the Indian Navy from Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE). They are in the 700 ton range and will replace the Abhay-class corvette currently in service.


http://www.marinedesigners.com/new/proj ... s/asw-swc/

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Postby Philip » 13 Oct 2017 18:17

The req. is for a small versatile ASW platform for "shallow water" coastal brownwater duties.in large number to protect our ports and naval bases from lurking enemy subs,which may attempt to mine the entrances to harbours,a cheap asymmetric method of naval warfare by an inferior force.
Earlier,this job was being done by our 4 Pauk/Abhay class ASW corvettes of only about 450t. These were built on the same hull as the Tarantula missile corvettes and used the same dunking sonar as on the KA-28 ASW helos.Smart manner in which the Sovs/Russia standardised eqpt. for cost-effectiveness.700+ t can provide a reasonable amt. of ASW weaponry.These vessels could carry an ASW mortar,main gun of 57MM plus a 30mm gatling,or even a BPDMS gun/missile mount to counter anti-ship sub-launched missiles. Sev. torpedo tubes,a TAS and a helo deck-no hangar, as ASW helos based on land could operate from these ships, The vessels could even be based upon a twin-cat hull which could give it a faster speed too. There would be no need for any anti-ship missiles or SAMs other than the gun/missile BPDMS ,which have an anti-missile range upto 20KM. There is a new light-weight Pantsir BPDMS system which replaces Kashtan.A TAS and hull-mounted.bow sonar reqd. which assisted by the helo's own dunking sonar would give the vessel good detection capability. If UUVs are also part of the package,it would be even better.

With most subs today possessing some sort of UW sub-launched anti-ship /land attack missiles,they could stay further away from the coast and launch their missiles.This is going to be the difficult task for these vessels,the ability to sanitise the 200KM EEZ ,why even OPVs of the IN and CG must possess a min. ASW capability as they are larger warships and can operate for longer periods on station and at greater ranges. For true blue-water ops,vessels like the Talwars,Shivaliks and Kamortas are reqd. instead of these small ASW craft.

X-posted from the Helo td.
No mention of the NH-90 though,another eligible helo for the ASW role,v.popular with many navies.It is also news that the KA-226 has passed IN trials.One thought that despite there being a naval version,what the IN wanted was a light helowith ASW capability,able to carry LWT torpedoes and dunking sonars.No idea ifthis is just for commn./utility purposes.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... s-revealed
Big Indian Navy Requirement for Helicopters Revealed
by Neelam Mathews
- October 12, 2017, 10:57 AM
The Indian Navy has revealed an intention to procure approximately 111 Naval Utility Helicopters (NUH) and 123 Naval Multi-role Helicopters (MRH). The responses to two requests for information (RFI) documents by the Indian Ministry of Defence were due last week. The two projects are partially a restatement of earlier requirements that were never realized. They both require indigenous manufacture under Delhi’s “Make in India” requirements.

The MRH will replace the Indian Navy’s Sea Kings, and is to be procured in two versions. One will perform anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (ASuW), electronic intelligence-gathering, and search and rescue (SAR). The other will be for special operations, including anti-piracy missions, combat SAR and humanitarian operations.

In December 2014, the MoD chose the Sikorsky S-70B to meet an interim ASW/ASuW requirement, but a contract was never signed, since pricing could not be agreed. But a defense official told AIN that Sikorsky was still the “natural” choice, especially since it seemed that neither Leonardo nor NH Industries (which produces the NH-90 and is part-owned by Leonardo) would be allowed to bid, following the AW101 procurement scandal. When asked by AIN whether this was indeed the case, Leonardo’s head office for helicopters in Italy did not respond. Airbus Helicopters is another likely contender.

The NUH will replace aging Cheetahs and Chetaks. A previous requirement for only 56 such helicopters was cancelled in October 2014. The new request calls for the NUH to perform SAR, medical evacuation, communications, anti-piracy missions, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. The initial NUH acquisition will comprise 15 “basic” versions. The remaining 96, according to think tank Indian Defense Research Wing, are “required to have sub-surface mission capabilities, which means the whole fleet of Indian Navy’s Next Generation Naval Utility Helicopters will have torpedo-carrying capabilities.”

“The indigenous portion of the procurement is to be manufactured in India based on designs to be provided by the foreign OEM to the selected strategic partner,” said the RFI. The OEM must maximize the local content. But an analyst told AIN that government-owned Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) might still be eligible . It is in partnership with Rostec Corp for the supply of 197 Russian KA-226T helicopters to the Indian army and air force. A ship-based version of the Ka-226T has passed trials, and “nowhere does the [Indian Navy] RFI say this is meant only for the private sector,” the analyst added.

Additional reporting by Chris Pocock

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Cain Marko » 14 Oct 2017 07:14

chola wrote:Great news!!! Navy say fully operational by 2019. As opposed to previous CAG report that said 2023 before flight ops can begin.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/ins-vikrant-navy-chief-reviews-construction-of-indias-indegenious-aircraft-carrier-2049749.html

Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba on Thursday reviewed the construction of the country's first indigenous aircraft carrier - Vikrant, at the Cochin Shipyard. The Navy expects the 40,000-tonne aircraft carrier to be fully operational by 2019.



Encouraging hints from IN about the NLCA? Or just the DDM adding stuff from a previous fact sheet that was handed out years ago?

The ship, which is designed to survive attack by nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, puts India in the elite group of nations like the US, Russia, the UK and France that are capable of designing and constructing aircraft carriers. Once complete, it would be able to accommodate 12 MiG-29Ks, eight Tejas Light Combat Aircrafts and 10 helicopters....


Very, very unlikely that well see the nlca on the vik anytime soon for reasons already discussed.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Aditya G » 14 Oct 2017 20:38

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SEDS's ASW-SWC is an interesting design, somewhat similar to Visby class corvette. I like the water jets and stealth turret.

I am concerned about the rear facing RBU - which IMHO is not ideal for attacking a submarine. Also, the triple tube arrangement indicates LWT - would have preferred HWT. Perhaps the ASW mortars could have been placed ahead instead of a cannon. I suspect IN is eventually going to go for CRN-91 which does not require deck penetration, so maybe could have put 2 units.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rishi_Tri » 14 Oct 2017 23:31

"The Navy expects the 40,000-tonne aircraft carrier to be fully operational by 2019". This means the carrier is almost done with outfitting. Trials shall take up to one year. Any latest photos of the carrier?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rishi_Tri » 14 Oct 2017 23:33

Wonder if Vikrant shall be dedicated to the nation by PM on eve of declaration of gen elections in 2019. If that is so, let they happen next year. :)


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 15 Oct 2017 07:31

Rishi_Tri wrote:Wonder if Vikrant shall be dedicated to the nation by PM on eve of declaration of gen elections in 2019. If that is so, let they happen next year. :)

OT but in India that would be a bad move politically..

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 15 Oct 2017 14:41

This person had a sex change operation and was dismissed from the IN.

As per the pictures, from the way the person is seen dressed, the person is an engineering dept sailor.

The IN, thus far, has recruited only men as sailors, as it is legally allowed to do. The IA and the IAF, per regulations, also do not have women recruited into the other ranks. The regulations do not even begin to cover such a situation of sex change and there seems no scope for any other interpretation of the current regulations.

For this person, from a personal point of view, life is so unfair.


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 15 Oct 2017 19:59

I agree with the Navy's decision on this. This sailor knew the rules and still flouted them. She needs to go.


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