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Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 06 Apr 2017 04:46

ashishvikas wrote:India keen to buy MiG-29 aircraft from Malaysia: Malaysian Prime Minister

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 031600.cms

Is the IAF actually considering buying used 4th generation fighters to shore up her numbers? Where have we read this before? :) I should post this in the single engine thread.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Bala Vignesh » 06 Apr 2017 05:09

Well with just 12 airframes available, this deal is more for attrition replacement than raising the squadron numbers.
Surplus, if any, may be used as test bed but I highly doubt it.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 06 Apr 2017 05:49

ramana wrote:There was report about IAF ordering a large number of LGBs.

I couldn't find it again.
Please post here.


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6866&p=2136301&hilit=1000+year+glide#p2136301

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 06 Apr 2017 07:06

Thanks.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Cain Marko » 06 Apr 2017 09:23

Rakesh wrote:
ashishvikas wrote:India keen to buy MiG-29 aircraft from Malaysia: Malaysian Prime Minister

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 031600.cms

Is the IAF actually considering buying used 4th generation fighters to shore up her numbers? Where have we read this before? :) I should post this in the single engine thread.


just wrote about this a moment ago in said thread and now this news :shock: :D hope this is true. Hungary has a few too and I bet so do the Russians. Good move, if true

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby rohitvats » 06 Apr 2017 10:01

Rakesh wrote:
ashishvikas wrote:India keen to buy MiG-29 aircraft from Malaysia: Malaysian Prime Minister

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 031600.cms

Is the IAF actually considering buying used 4th generation fighters to shore up her numbers? Where have we read this before? :) I should post this in the single engine thread.


This is more on the lines of Malaysia wanting to sell their Mig-29. Since IAF operates the same, it has mixed the pitch for buying Su-30MKK related stuff with India buying those Mig-29s.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Austin » 06 Apr 2017 10:31

IF IAF buys the Mig-29N then they would just upgrade it to UPG standard as other Migs in IAF

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby nits » 06 Apr 2017 13:45

News Article does not mention any update on what will be the cost of this Mig's ? also are they selling this as they favor Sukhoi more now ?

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 07 Apr 2017 01:10

Fleet rationalization. Need to get rid of multiple types.
IAF gets Mig29s which are useful.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Khalsa » 07 Apr 2017 01:48

ramana wrote:Fleet rationalization. Need to get rid of multiple types.
IAF gets Mig29s which are useful.


Wow lots of present and hidden gems in there.
Definite opportunity to sell them Su spare parts and possibly some airframes that could be manufactured.
This sounds good.

Look at their fleet. Definitely operating a wide variety of platforms like the IAF for a country its size.

Aircraft--------------------Number of AC F[F+T]
Boeing F/A-18D---------------8[13]
BAE Hawk 208---------------13[13]
MiG-29----------------------10[13]
Su-30MKM------------------18[13]

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 07 Apr 2017 13:20

Getting legacy MIG-29s which are younger than the ones the IAF operate and upgrading them in India will be quite easy as we've already carried out a deep upgrade of all 60+ in service for just under $1B.Exchanging SU-30 spares for these aircraft is a very innovative solution to increasing our numbers of 29s at a very reasonable cost.With a few more,another MIG-29 sqd. could be raised,esp. as we're in other reports going to provide BDesh moolah to buy Ru MIG-35s (possibly) and other defence deals in a tri-partitie arrangement.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Karthik S » 07 Apr 2017 13:23

Philip wrote:Getting legacy MIG-29s which are younger than the ones the IAF operate and upgrading them in India will be quite easy as we've already carried out a deep upgrade of all 60+ in service for just under $1B.Exchanging SU-30 spares for these aircraft is a very innovative solution to increasing our numbers of 29s at a very reasonable cost.With a few more,another MIG-29 sqd. could be raised,esp. as we're in other reports going to provide BDesh moolah to buy Ru MIG-35s (possibly) and other defence deals in a tri-partitie arrangement.


Where did you get that?

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 07 Apr 2017 19:59

Read the $3B credit to BD to shore up economy.

Philip despite his image hear has his sources.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby gugul » 13 Apr 2017 16:54

Quick Question : Can anyone tell me what are these panels on the front end of IAF Boeing 707...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1566/2459 ... e12e_b.jpg
http://photovide.com/wp-content/uploads ... es/36b.jpg

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby dinesh_kimar » 13 Apr 2017 19:54

gulgul, maybe AN/AYR-1 passive ESM Sensor system, which is also used by India.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Prithwiraj » 13 Apr 2017 20:11

These seems to be resource of ARC (Aviation Research Center)?

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby dinesh_kimar » 13 Apr 2017 20:42

^ There is also an ELTA version of the above sensor system. Totally 2 aircraft with us.
ARC doesn't exist anymore, closed down by invincible pigeon. Air assets with IAF, sat based with NTRO.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby gugul » 14 Apr 2017 20:10

Thanks Dinesh and Prithwiraj...

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 15 Apr 2017 19:24

Mirage-2000 w/ SPICE-2000
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Chinmay » 15 Apr 2017 20:53

^ The first two aircraft are carrying the Popeye missile, not a SPICE-2000

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 16 Apr 2017 07:23

Chinmay wrote:^ The first two aircraft are carrying the Popeye missile, not a SPICE-2000

SPICE-2000 is a derivative of Popeye.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby bhavani » 16 Apr 2017 08:02

Popeye missile is different from spice 2000. Spice 2000 is a kit for 2000 lb bomb with around 65 km range. Popeye is a proper ASM with around 145 km-200 km range.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 16 Apr 2017 08:09

You guys are right. So looks like the IAF has both the Popeye-2 and SPICE-2000.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 20 Apr 2017 22:47

X-Post...
srai wrote:^^^
Bombs
  1. 25 lb Practice bomb
  2. 3Kg Practice bomb
  3. 1000 lb Mk-11- (w/ Griffin LGB kit as well)
  4. 250 kg HSLD
  5. 450 kg HSLD
  6. PB-500 (w/ Griffin LGB kit)



Taking all these weapons together with the Popeye and Spice 2000 of IAF what is their ground attack or strike doctrine?

Ground fixed targets and ground fighting support.

Can Avibhushan garu critique after members post?


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