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Rakesh wrote:Squadron Leader Ajmer Singh of Indian Air Force creates record, flies 101 sorties in a day
https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/hum ... 56108.html
:shock: 101 sorties in 1 day... Wow

The point-to-point share rickshaw guy outside my colony does not do 101 trips in 3-4 days
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Not takiing away anything from Sqn Ldr, but these were probably joy rides for about 10min a piece, in a motor glider. So no way comparable to a Autowala.

These are common for an adventure sports facility.
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Bala Vignesh wrote:Not takiing away anything from Sqn Ldr, but these were probably joy rides for about 10min a piece, in a motor glider. So no way comparable to a Autowala.

These are common for an adventure sports facility.
So flying a powered hang glider is a "sortie"??.

Is it the same when civilians also pilot a "powered" hang glider??

Sortie has historical connotations of military intent and content.

Can we seriously equate fighter and bomber sorties to "powered" hang glider "sorties"??

The jury is out on this one and may never return.
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Bala Vignesh wrote:Not takiing away anything from Sqn Ldr, but these were probably joy rides for about 10min a piece, in a motor glider. So no way comparable to a Autowala. These are common for an adventure sports facility.
Sir, even a 10 min/sortie for 101 sorties works out to nearly 17 hrs of flying (and prep - include Take off, Landing, Refueling, Checks etc) in a 24 hr day.

Would require very good skill, excellent physical and mental condition, good reliable equipment (and support team).

The autowallah comparison i only meant in a fun way, no disrespect intended. Just that the point-to-point share ricks of Mumbai are also usually short distance rides, typically about a km or so and they last about 5 minutes to and 5 minutes back.

Admittedly the Sqn Leader did not need to cope with Mumbai type traffic :D
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The whole point of this exercise is to highlight the adventure that is available in the Armed Forces. The Navy and the Army do similar things i.e. like scaling up Mount Everest or circumventing the entire globe in a sailing vessel. This is free advertisement for young aspirants. So when they say 101 sorties, they obviously do not mean combat sorties. You cannot even fit 101 combat sorties - by a single pilot - in a 24 hour cycle!

The officers who conduct these adventures have regular jobs in the Indian Air Force, like being a helicopter, transport or fighter pilot. Or some other role in the IAF. Ditto for the officers in the Army and Navy.

Take it in the right spirit. Loosen up and don't be so serious and rigid about everything :)
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brar_w wrote:
Khalsa wrote:LOL
having observed the exercises of Igla at a close range I can assure you that a dedicated strike formation (unknown) to the defenders has not chance of being shot down in the area unless they linger.

So imagine a group of F-15s carrying laser guided bombs or conventional bombs are arriving from a direction to destroy a reactor under construction, they will go low below the immediate horizon of the occasional sweep of eye balls that by the time they are visible .... it will be a race between human screaming and assimilation of commands between 4 different people and the velocity of a F-15 at close to 2000 Km/h
The main problem these weapons (Stinger/Avenger) are trying to solve in this context is the UAV/UCAV threat or 911 type airliner threat, not supersonic fighters that need to fully cooperate for them to get a kill. You can use more capable missiles against them. In Singha's example, Washington DC is defended by NASAMS and there may be Avenger/Stingers there as well for precisely the type of threat I described earlier. Neither of the systems is there to fend off a direct attack by strike fighters because that threat just doesn't exist.
Right!
Mexico, Iceland, Europe, Japan, Russia and China are too far! Only Canadian fighter jets could attempt a raid!
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Rakesh wrote:The whole point of this exercise is to highlight the adventure that is available in the Armed Forces. The Navy and the Army do similar things i.e. like scaling up Mount Everest or circumventing the entire globe in a sailing vessel. This is free advertisement for young aspirants. So when they say 101 sorties, they obviously do not mean combat sorties. You cannot even fit 101 combat sorties - by a single pilot - in a 24 hour cycle!

The officers who conduct these adventures have regular jobs in the Indian Air Force, like being a helicopter, transport or fighter pilot. Or some other role in the IAF. Ditto for the officers in the Army and Navy.

Take it in the right spirit. Loosen up and don't be so serious and rigid about everything :)
Think of it as a diwali celebrations in your job. May not be your core job, you may still enjoy it and serves as good thing to show in campuses
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http://indianairforce.nic.in/content/we ... rence-2018

WESTERN AIR COMMAND STATION COMMANDERS’ CONFERENCE: 2018
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https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... 88228.html

Indigenous bomb for Air Force by March
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Defence Research and Development Organisation has developed a 500-kg class bomb that would be manufactured by the local industry. “The design and development of the bomb has been completed and flight trials from Jaguar aircraft have already been undertaken,” a senior scientist said. “Certain trials of the bomb with the SU-30 fighter have been carried out and the remaining parameters would be evaluated in the coming weeks,” he added. Christened as the ‘500-kg General Purpose Bomb’, it is expected to be inducted into service by coming March or April.
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@2:20 there is a pic of NSG flying inside a C17. unlike the cramped Il76 piled high in 26/11 photos, here there is room and more to take their own vehicles and tons of gear inside the C17 with comfortable jump seats on the side. they could even move to use own customized Stryker type vehicles armed with a 20mm cannon + ATGMs for some full fighting vs entrenched foes behind stone facades like the Taj. or Dingo type wheeled ones . or trucks with ladders like the GIGN. anything upto a Abrams tank is doable in a C17.

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From the twitter feed of Air Marshal Anil Chopra (Retd)....

https://twitter.com/Chopsyturvey/status ... 1085239296 ----> After my ejection (Mirage 2000) in February 2012, promised CO 1 Sqn...I will come back to complete that sortie. Unfortunately declared medically unfit. On farewell visit, Sqn decided to dress my wife in flying suit and do a dummy sortie on ground in lieu. Touching the Sky with Glory.

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The sheer arrogance of burka butt, shielded as she was by the congi lootyens cabal, and a notorious recipient of a wasted padma bushan too.


Barkha Dutt threatened to get him fired if she’s not allowed entry into sensitive area, claims Retd Air Marshal
Barkha Dutt threatened to get him fired if she’s not allowed entry into sensitive area, claims Retd Air Marshal


Air Marshal Savur's revelation on Twitter is shocking, to say the least. It is hard to imagine a journalist holding the power to threaten and air commodore to let her enter a sensitive area with impunity.

OPINDIA STAFF, NOVEMBER 30, 2018


Much has been said about how journalists treat the reportage of defence related issues and especially, situations that pose threat to national security. Recently, we observed the 10th anniversary of the gruesome terrorist attack of 26/11, perhaps the first time that the glaring media insensitivity and irresponsibility came to the fore as the Supreme Court itself came down heavily on the media, for potentially compromising national security.

Now, another incident has come to the fore that exposes how brazenly and irresponsibility the media behaves during times of national crisis and in their handling of national security issues. A Retired Air Marshal, Air Marshal S Y Sarur, has taken to Twitter to narrate an incident during the Kandahar hijacking in 1999.

During this situation of pandemonium and the national security issue, Retired Air Marshal S Y Savur has claimed that Barkha Dutt, the ex-NDTV journalist who now freelances doing videos etc in various portals, threatened to get him, then Air Commodore, fired if she and her team weren’t allowed in the Tech area, which by all means, would have been a sensitive area at the time of the hijacking. Retd Air Marshal S Y Savur was the Air Commodore commanding Air Force station in Palam.


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He deleted that tweet later and showed what a true gentleman he is.
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Or he was asked to do so. What a shame. Even now people wont speak up.
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Prasad wrote:He deleted that tweet later and showed what a true gentleman he is.
Wow ! A warrior sena-pati who does not hold to truth and righteousness and walks away from what needs to be defended, being called gentlemen with a new postmodern meaning.

In my language its called pussy footed cowerdice.
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Lets not be quick to judge. We don't know why he did so.
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Karan M wrote:Lets not be quick to judge. We don't know why he did so.
He has made his point.

The tweet has already been published in a magazine article. Its a matter of record now.

Why wouldn't he delete it??

Nothing is hidden, he has not disowned it and nor has he come out belatedly with the usual bromide and standard BS about of his phone being hacked.

I don't understand this "does not hold to truth and righteousness and walks away from what needs to be defended".

He reiterated his position and disengaged like a gentleman would.

What did you want??

A knockdown and drag out fight on twitter??

Maybe that's not his style and his point made, he has nothing to prove to anyone nor the need to do so.

Does someone here not believe him?? Then simply say so.

private whatsapp groups are already giving many examples of this "lady's" atrocious and arrogant behavior during the kargil ops and beyond.

BTW, wasn't there a very recent photograph of some service chief who abandoned all protocol and received her at her car door and personally escorted her to the reception that he was hosting??

Here's hoping that the gent got whatever he was so desperately looking for.

When someone speaks out, it should be appreciated.
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chetak wrote:The sheer arrogance of burka butt, shielded as she was by the congi lootyens cabal, and a notorious recipient of a wasted padma bushan too.
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I understand that she might be of the congi cabal, but werent the leaders at that time aar paar ladhai Waley NDA?
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Cain Marko wrote:
chetak wrote:The sheer arrogance of burka butt, shielded as she was by the congi lootyens cabal, and a notorious recipient of a wasted padma bushan too.
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I understand that she might be of the congi cabal, but werent the leaders at that time aar paar ladhai Waley NDA?

More like an integral part and parcel of the dilli lutyens club and time/circumstances permitting, part time "aar paar ladhai waley".

Recall if you will saar, how a particular lutyens princeling was saved from the clutches of the FBI by no less than the then NSA. Surely, the then the powers that be could not have been unaware of the political and diplomatic kasrat undertaken on behalf of said lutyens princeling by a VIP govt functionary, n'est-ce pas??
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Chetak wrote:What did you want??

A knockdown and drag out fight on twitter??

Maybe that's not his style and his point made, he has nothing to prove to anyone nor the need to do so.
When did I say I wanted the above?

In fact I was defending his choice, given the antecedents and proclivities of the opposing party in question.

It is however regrettable that he didn't stay on twitter and deliver a KO.

But then Modi led GOI's inability to deal with a hostile and partisan media, and even rein it in, is by now well documented. So why blame a poor civvie (because that's what the AM is now) for the same.
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He is back with a new handle 'S Y Savur IAF Veteran'
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Is this the IAF News and Discussion thread??
As much as I dislike Barkha this spat is not what should be here.
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It does kind of come into the ambit of IAF news and discussions. Such rampant disrespect of those in uniform citing "political pressure and power" is detrimental to national security. Especially after events like Pathankot. I hope GOI of the day lays down stringent rules and regulations around press and media conduct. Modi & Jaitley's hands-off approach to the media has not been stern enough either.

And with that lets return to more standard programming ..
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Karan M wrote:It does kind of come into the ambit of IAF news and discussions. Such rampant disrespect of those in uniform citing "political pressure and power" is detrimental to national security. Especially after events like Pathankot. I hope GOI of the day lays down stringent rules and regulations around press and media conduct. Modi & Jaitley's hands-off approach to the media has not been stern enough either.

And with that lets return to more standard programming ..
On Social Media, Veterans who post stuff need to be able to stand their own ground if they post anything. Same as any other Indian. In case one cannot stand the fallout, one should not post.

Modi and Jaitely have many important things to do. Let us all do our bit. My thoughts only.
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True, I found the manner in which he deleted his tweet then attacked OpIndia for merely highlighting what he said very disturbing. It smacked of something very non complimentary, but then again, its easy for us to be judgemental without knowing his circumstances.

Having said that, people will develop courage when they know the ecosystem is not loaded against them. When Smriti Irani proposed a law or regulation against fake news, Modi promptly cracked down on it and had it withdrawn. Why? Even today, four years after he came into power, people of the "wrong" persuasion according to agenda peddlers are often scared and afraid to stand their ground because the ecosystem deployed against them is vast. Modi could have done a lot to break this nexus, he chose to adopt a Nelson's eye & as such, I really can't blame Mr Savur for not standing his ground and taking the easy way out. Why hold him to some higher standard than many other folks, merely because he was a veteran. The rot is in our system itself, and I don't know his particular constraints. Right now, he is just another bleddy civilian, with little access to the powers that be. Who give interviews to the very jokers who curse them and their voters.

Anyhow I wouldn't wish to continue, as it will turn into a thread on Indian politics and we can't have it anymore on the forum.
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Karan M wrote:
Chetak wrote:What did you want??

A knockdown and drag out fight on twitter??

Maybe that's not his style and his point made, he has nothing to prove to anyone nor the need to do so.
When did I say I wanted the above?

In fact I was defending his choice, given the antecedents and proclivities of the opposing party in question.

It is however regrettable that he didn't stay on twitter and deliver a KO.

But then Modi led GOI's inability to deal with a hostile and partisan media, and even rein it in, is by now well documented. So why blame a poor civvie (because that's what the AM is now) for the same.
Sorry, wasn't addressing you.

Should have been more clear.
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chetak wrote:
Cain Marko wrote: I understand that she might be of the congi cabal, but werent the leaders at that time aar paar ladhai Waley NDA?

More like an integral part and parcel of the dilli lutyens club and time/circumstances permitting, part time "aar paar ladhai waley".

Recall if you will saar, how a particular lutyens princeling was saved from the clutches of the FBI by no less than the then NSA. Surely, the then the powers that be could not have been unaware of the political and diplomatic kasrat undertaken on behalf of said lutyens princeling by a VIP govt functionary, n'est-ce pas??
Interesting. Had no idea about said princeling... :shock:
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AM Nambiar clearly visits BRF and took pity on all us speculative souls. Indranil, here we go with the final description of what Rudra et al are. ;)

Read it at link. IAF pretty satisfied with LCA and AEWC as well.
Role of S400, BMD, radars, datalink, PGMs, AMCA, LCA Mk2, pretty much everything we wanted to know.


https://salute.co.in/military-modernisa ... air-force/
June-July 2018
MILITARY MODERNISATION: INDIAN AIR FORCE
August 20, 2018 by Air Marshal R. Nambiar


Air Marshal R. Nambiar[/quote]
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Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping they are twin seaters....

Amid Rafale controversy, Indian Air Force team heads to France to inspect Paris' 'gift'
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/arti ... ift/324498

As the Rafale controversy rages, an Indian Air Force team is headed to France early next month to "inspect" a gift from the French government of two Dassault-made Mirage-2000 aircraft. With the Rafale deal done for 36 fighter jets, France has offered India two Mirage-2000 fighter planes, virtually free -- at a very nominal cost. The Mirage-2000 is an older plane and was used extensively by the IAF in the Kargil war. With the defence ministry clearing the project, the IAF is sending an inspection team headed by a squadron leader to have a look at the "quality" of the planes. The team will be going to Chateaudun French air force base, not far from Paris for the first look at the aircraft. India has in principle accepted the offer and the inspection will be to judge the quality. If everything goes as expected, the IAF will have two additional Mirage-2000 fighter to the 50 odd it currently has. The air force could fly these planes for a while, depending on how serviceable they are. And that will be decided by the inspection. Then, these two could be broken up for spares. This too is of great importance as the IAF is likely to face a spares shortage of the Mirage-2000 in the future as the manufacture of the plane by Dassault is winding down.
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Video + Interview of the above article....

France offers two Mirage 2000 fighter planes to India
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vid ... 904303.cms
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Some more details on the above article, but this article is dated Oct 2018....

France to provide Mirage 2000 aircraft at dirt cheap prices to Indian Air Force
https://www.mynation.com/news/cbi-vs-cb ... ral-pjb0hw

Seeking to bolster its Mirage-2000 fighter jet fleet, India is getting two of these at a dirt-cheap price of Rs 16 crore per aircraft from France. The two aircraft would be later upgraded to the highest standards by the HAL. The French are offering the planes at Euro 2 million per aircraft and the cost of transporting the planes to India would be around Euro one million. So, at Euro five million (approx Rs 40 crore), India will get two aircraft with a life of 3,000 hours left in them, government sources told MyNation. The aircraft would also help in utilising the upgrade kits that had been ordered during the Mirage 2000 upgrade contract with France. India had a fleet of 51 Mirages but the number came down to 49 after the loss of two planes in quick succession around 2012-13, the sources said. The two Mirages coming from France would help in making up the fleet strength back to 51.

India is also getting a fleet of 32 Jaguar aircraft, which are supposed to be used as spares to support the current fleet of Jaguar fighters operated by India. The 100 Jaguar aircraft strong fleet would also help in maintaining force levels and combat the delay in procuring jets beyond the 4 plus generation fighter aircraft such as Rafale due to the Congress government impeding the decision-making. Dassault Aviation already has sent its proposal for IAF’s Tender for 110 fighter jets and have also responded to Indian Navy’s requirement for 57 carriers based fighter jet. First Rafale fighter jet is currently going through integration in France and Indian technicians and engineers are currently undergoing training in France to induct this jet in September 2019.
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https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1070988770952962050 ---> BTW, it seems the Indian Air Force wants a JSTARS like capability based on a business jet platform and DRDO is collaborating with the United States (US) for this purpose under the aegis of the India-US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative.

https://twitter.com/Aryanwarlord/status ... 4479691776 ---> Most interesting, Boeing was working on a J-STARS replacement jet based on the P-8 platform. Given our existing familiarity with the P-8 and COMCASA signing, India must just being a launch partner with DRDO inputs.

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Boeing was one of the OEMs which had a proposal for the JSTARS in terms of a platform and BM integration. The USAF though only funded and down-selected Northrop Grumman's GaN radar over Raytheon's GaN proposal before scrapping JSTARS-recap altogether because of survivability concerns. The radar programs live on as both are scalable and will be useful on other applications (figthers, bombers and UAVs). Both radars are in flight testing.

At the time, it was believed that the USAF favored something in the G550 class given it had chosen that as the platform for its mainstay Electronic Attack platform in the EC-37B. It was reported that the MOD had placed a request for an ISTAR aircraft to be supplied by Raytheon. If these are not the same programs, and there is a dedicated sensor and Battle-Management need on top of this then one would assume that it would be better to share the same platform and other components. Raytheon's X-band GaN based Archimedes sensor is in flight testing so perhaps that could be mounted on the same platform chosen for the ISTAR program.

I assumed that Raytheon would offer something similar to the Sentinel which is a more mature and low risk product. Working around a completely new sensor is going to be costly without risk and cost sharing partners/customers but I guess that it could always be an option in case higher performance is required.

https://www.c4isrnet.com/air/2017/10/16 ... -raytheon/
https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/p ... archimedes
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https://twitter.com/__username__007/sta ... 5016317952 ----> Indian Air Force Su-30MKI buddy refuelling Mirage 2000 with Cobham 754 ATA BRP.

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Rakesh wrote:Some more details on the above article, but this article is dated Oct 2018....

France to provide Mirage 2000 aircraft at dirt cheap prices to Indian Air Force
https://www.mynation.com/news/cbi-vs-cb ... ral-pjb0hw

Seeking to bolster its Mirage-2000 fighter jet fleet, India is getting two of these at a dirt-cheap price of Rs 16 crore per aircraft from France. The two aircraft would be later upgraded to the highest standards by the HAL. The French are offering the planes at Euro 2 million per aircraft and the cost of transporting the planes to India would be around Euro one million. So, at Euro five million (approx Rs 40 crore), India will get two aircraft with a life of 3,000 hours left in them, government sources told MyNation. The aircraft would also help in utilising the upgrade kits that had been ordered during the Mirage 2000 upgrade contract with France. India had a fleet of 51 Mirages but the number came down to 49 after the loss of two planes in quick succession around 2012-13, the sources said. The two Mirages coming from France would help in making up the fleet strength back to 51.
But there was another Mirage 2000 crash that I sadly witnessed (and photographed the crash moment) in 1989 (the CO of Battle-Axe Sqn. W/C Bakshi died), was that loss replaced?
India is also getting a fleet of 32 Jaguar aircraft, which are supposed to be used as spares to support the current fleet of Jaguar fighters operated by India. The 100 Jaguar aircraft strong fleet would also help in maintaining force levels and combat the delay in procuring jets beyond the 4 plus generation fighter aircraft such as Rafale due to the Congress government impeding the decision-making. Dassault Aviation already has sent its proposal for IAF’s Tender for 110 fighter jets and have also responded to Indian Navy’s requirement for 57 carriers based fighter jet. First Rafale fighter jet is currently going through integration in France and Indian technicians and engineers are currently undergoing training in France to induct this jet in September 2019.
No presstitute questions the khangress party chief pappu aqual-mand khan on this betrayal of national security.
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Folks, an awesome article about the MiG 25 Foxbat in the Indian Air Force

From Hushkit

Loneliness at Mach 3: Interview with a MiG-25 Foxbat pilot
Hushkit: Which words best describe the MiG-25 ?
Air Marshal Sumit Mukerji: “Catch me if you can”
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Starburst during the diamond ring of a Solar Eclipse
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Nice and Rare interview on Foxbat in IAF service , Thanks for posting this. Hushkit has outdone itself

Didnt expect the autopilot of Mig-25 would be so great , seems I am reading about latest civil airliner autopilot of likes of Dreamliner or NEO
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... 97596.html

In a first, IAF to fly plane with bio-fuel blend
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The plane will fly from the IAF base at Chandigarh with a blend of around 10 per cent bio-fuel. Trials have been on since mid-November and the first scheduled flight is slated on December 17. Some modifications have been made to the plane
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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The CT in me feel there is a Mig-31 Sqd somewhere continuing from Mig-25.

Unless Su30s can fly at 22km , ability to fly at those heights & speed is a great asset.

Also note the comment about flying above the radar lobe and only ingress & exit is noted by radar blip.
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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In this day and age, such things would be almost impossible to hide in India given the dense populations around each major airbase and the abundance of smartphones etc
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