I did concede the two to one exchange rate. We send our infantry into battle with not much armor, little night vision and whatnot. Do you think that pilots and warplanes are important enough to spend a lot on the best and latest, but not the infantry? There is only so much in the budget and a fifty billion dollar hardware Air Force is not realistic for another thirty or forty years. Every paise we save in the IAF - because for all the glamor of flying combat planes, no war is ever going to be decided in the air - is money for the navy and army, which components do win wars.
RKumar wrote:^ Lets agree to disagree ... to use 2 Hawk-i against a fighter in a real conflict. For me, It is a suicide mission for the servicemen.
Dominance of the Air is important for winning wars, it has been true for all wars including the 1971 Bangladesh War, putting the PAF out action in East Pakistan helped us create Bangladesh.
Even the Paki Jehadis depend on Nuke Umbrella and PAF for thier safety in Paki bases and thier Networks, thats why BIF hopes Surgical strikes, Balakot strikes and Parrott the Paki line on 27 Feb19.
If you look between 65 and 71 wars while then Paki's bought some star fighters clandestinely, got some sabres and F-6(Mig-19) for which the Americans integrated the Aim-9B. We got 56 improved Hunters and what made the Difference 100 Plus SU-7B and 100 plus Mig 21 FL from the Soviets at Frendship prices.
You can never win an Air war without numbers of competent aircraft and components from Awacs to Fuels, to Drop tanks. in 71 war Su 7B had to stop their successful attacks on Shor Kot road cause the finished their 3 sets of Drop tanks.
Thats where the MMRCA will never get the IAF, it can only get IAF numbers for stalemates. Imports can be tip of the spear, but numbers which if LCA is ordered in 100's can form body of the spear by having an in house production ecosystem. Any new aircraft requires drop tanks, weapons, spare parts training crew it takes 4-5 years to induct a new type of aircraft. Thats why I go WTF when people on the forum want to import a few F-15- we will be better off with more Su-30MKI's to that. Israel and USA have been operating F-15 for 40 years so they have done the necessary investments and ecosystem for F-15's- we dont.
Well the powers that be have not ordered 83 Mk1A's in 3 years, some where some one has to bite the bullet and start simultaneous teams working on LCA Tejas Mk1/1A, Naval Tejas, MWF, TEDBF and AMCA so that we can start producing numbers from all these products. And this fetish for A330, why not just order Boeing 737-900 based P8I's, some for mounting Indian Awacs radars, Some as Tankers, Some as Bombers. Yes some dependency on the USA, but 737-900 parts can be stocked and widely available.
If we are get strategic safety and win our necessary wars and not think of just defensive stalemates to deter the enemy, we will need some group of people with power to take the right proactive decisions.