Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 18 Apr 2018 07:51

vsunder wrote:
vinod wrote:More number of sorties could be also a leaf out of the book on Russian air performance at Syrian theatre!


A story comes to mind. In 1971, the US and Pakis were quite astounded with the precision of night bombings by IAF. They concluded that the IAF was in possession of MOSS

Another innovation of the IAF unknown to the Soviets or the Americans was to use high flying MiG 21s to communicate with fighters that were otherwise out of range leading to the Russian AWACS conclusion.

Fmr CAS Tipnis has an ironic anecdote related to that capability
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Austin » 18 Apr 2018 10:39

Indian Air Force jets do 5,000 sorties in 72 hours on western front

As many as 1,150 fighters, aircraft, helicopters and drones as well as hundreds of air defence missile, radar, surveillance and other units have been deployed for the high-voltage exercise, which is taking place with active participation from Army and Navy for integrated land-air-sea combat operations. The IAF has systematically worked towards achieving 83% serviceability (operational availability of the number of aircraft at any given time) for the exercise, in conjunction with defence PSUs like Hindustan Aeronautics and base repair depots, from the usual 55%-60% in peacetime.

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Postby Pratyush » 18 Apr 2018 12:26

ArjunPandit wrote:Another thing that needs to be highlighted is that it bursts the bogey that IAF was not ready after 26/11. While 10 years is a long time and a lot has changed/improved since then. But beliving IAF was not ready is just a another cover for coward politicians to hide



The armed forces were held back by the government of India. The reasons are best understood by the then govt.

Niether the goi nor the forces' have ever said that they weren't ready.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 18 Apr 2018 12:34

While the pathetic manner in which the then GOI, HM,etc. responded to 26/11,I suspect that the Pakis were waiting for some knee-jerk action token mil. response from India,for which they were waiting to launch another Op Gibraltar,whatever, and make a surprise attack with the intention of wresting as much of J&K as possible before an inevitable ceasefire was forced upon us by the world powers. This they hoped would spur on the locals in the Valley to support them on the ground and make our hold on the state very tenuous. The pygmies of the day fled for the shelters,incapable of even a token mil response!

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby srai » 18 Apr 2018 18:12

Austin wrote:
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550 combat x 6 sorties avg over 72 hrs = 3300 sorties

Rest 1700 sorties by transports, Force multiplers and helicopters.
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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srai wrote:
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550 combat x 6 sorties avg over 72 hrs = 3300 sorties

Rest 1700 sorties by transports, Force multiplers and helicopters.


That's better than coalition forces during aur war phase of Operation Desert Storm in GW1.

Kudos to the IAF. And what delights me most is the small but significant role played by the YelllSeeYay
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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Will » 18 Apr 2018 21:20

This is gr8 news. But what needs to be kept in mind is that the IAF worked towards this exercise . Wars will not be fought according to a pre planned schedule. Keeping up a 90% availibility rate throught is going to be a tough ask. The IAF definately needs more numbers and hope the LCA helps in a big way towards this goal.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

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Postby Austin » 18 Apr 2018 21:31

Will wrote:This is gr8 news. But what needs to be kept in mind is that the IAF worked towards this exercise . Wars will not be fought according to a pre planned schedule. Keeping up a 90% availibility rate throught is going to be a tough ask. The IAF definately needs more numbers and hope the LCA helps in a big way towards this goal.


IAF has war time reserves of spares weapons etc that they dont use during peace time , So increasing availability at short notice during war time as they did during this exercise to 83 % from peace time 60 % takes into account that factor.

Ofcourse those war reserves are not infinite are designed to last for dozens of weeks so what ever they plan they will have to take that into account.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby jaysimha » 19 Apr 2018 10:37

http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1529516

PIB gaganshakthi update.

Ministry of Defence
Exercise Gaganshakti - 2018: ALG Operations
Posted On: 18 APR 2018 5:35PM by PIB Delhi

As part of the ongoing massive IAF exercise ‘Gaganshakti-2018', fighters, helicopters and transport assets have been deployed at the Advanced Landing Grounds (ALG). The ALGs are short prepared / unprepared airstrips close to the borders in the valleys, which have limited rail/road connectivity due to challenging terrain. ALGs located strategically offer an opportunity for swift mobility of troops and equipment close to our Northern and North Eastern borders.

A large number ALGs have been operationalised and are being utilised for conducting Inter Valley Troop Transfers (IVTT), Special Heliborne Operations, Air Landed operations and Special Operations by SFs, close to the simulated objective areas. SU-30s have also been operating from most ALGs in the NE sector. The full gamut of support services has been mobilised & operationalised at these ALGs for seamless conduct of these operations.

The challenges faced by our pilots in landing at these ALGs are unpredictable weather, undulating terrain, narrow corridor of approach / manoeuvring and short runway lengths. Braving these odds, the IAF pilots are undertaking these daring operations with extreme precision and professionalism, thus giving strategic fillip to these tactical operations. IVTT operations were carried out in Uttar Bharat Hills and at the Tezu-Walong in the North East sector. The support to these operations was possible due to the presence of ALGs at these strategic locations.

This exercise has proven to be an excellent opportunity for honing the skills of our aircrew and the support services to carry out these exacting operations.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby sum » 19 Apr 2018 11:15

Very impressive that no major incident with any aircraft with such a massive scale of sustained operations.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby nits » 19 Apr 2018 11:57

Wargame wins praise from unlikely quarters

The immense scope, dimension and huge effort that has gone into the ongoing Indian Air Force’s (IAF) war exercise Gagan Shakti, possibly IAF’s biggest till date, has drawn grudging but effusive praise from unlikely quarters — the state-run Chinese media.

In China, media reports have to be vetted by the government, so in a way they reflect the government’s stand and line of thought.

A report in a leading news aggregator Zhaizao declares that such large-scale air exercises are at present difficult for any other country except the United States and if India indeed has involved more than 1,100 air force assets then Russia and China will have to change their assessment of India.

The report marvels at India’s ability to involve hundreds of Su-30MKIs and MiG-21s, Jaguars, MiG 27s, and MiG 29s, including Navy MiG-29Ks, LCA fighters, and transport aircraft of various sizes besides helicopters and arming/detection/ refuelling aircraft in the giant exercise which is a “demonstration of the development results of the past 10 years”.

The report, loosely translated from Mandarin, says: “We cannot but affirm India’s progress in these years’ progress. In 2008, the Indian military had announced that the operational availability rate of its domestic Su-30MKI was only 50 per cent, and that after 10 years, it actually reached 90 per cent of the time it could be dispatched…This shows that the Indian military has strengthened its emphasis on maintenance work and other logistic tasks”.

On the fact that about 10,000 ground support personnel working together and more than 3,000 air sorties were being planned, it said: “It also shows that India has established and established a complete logistics system”.

On much-delayed LCA project, the report says that despite being very late, LCA over the last 30 years has produced a bountiful harvest of a very large number of “technicians cultivated and promoted through LCA research and development”.

Besides testing IAF’s war-readiness, the other big objective of Gagan Shakti is to study the logistical sustainability of a “short, intense and swift” war as they are predicted to be in future.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Kersi » 19 Apr 2018 12:07

ramana wrote:
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Only place will be KSA and MBS is ready to take back his kingdom investments.

Same time the maritime strike will also eliminate PN bases and all ships at sea.
The PN subs will be depth charged to Davy jones locker.

I also think the para drops are very significant to understand the future concept of operations after air superiority is achieved.


And think how close Rawalpindi is from Srinagar.


MBS ????

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby la.khan » 19 Apr 2018 12:27

Kersi wrote:MBS ????

MBS - Mohammed bin Salman, the new ruler of KSA, I believe.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby nachiket » 19 Apr 2018 12:29

Kersi saar, please don't quote the entirety of a long post to add a single line. And yes MBS is Mohammad bin Salman - crown prince (and de facto ruler) of Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Philip » 19 Apr 2018 13:27

Even if the reports have been given a bit of a spin, for PR purposes,v.unlikely,this is a colossal exercise as the Chin media report indicates.They have in the past been rather scornful of the armed forces,making jibes about the IN,etc. If the MKIs achieved 90% availability it is an extraordinary effort. and shows that concentrating upon maintenance and support as the top priority has paid off.
However,while we can take comfort for the success of the exercises,it also underscores how acute the problem of numbers is in the IAF if trainer Hawks were also pressed into duty ,and one is sure even the legacy MIGs did their part as best as possible. A swift order and delivery of a few sqds. of types ins service would be an excellent reward to the IAF for displaying such commitment and professionalism.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Manish_P » 19 Apr 2018 16:11

Mind boggling numbers. Just imagine how the paranoid uniformed jihadis across the border must have been feeling (despite the prior intimation). All leaves canceled.. the afsaran telling their mohtarmas to be packed, just in case.. extra security around the prized jewels.. We should do this more often :)

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 19 Apr 2018 16:49

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IAF's massive war games Gagan Shakti draws praise from unlikely quarter--Chinese state media which says only US & India have capability to mount war games with 1,100 fighter jets, 10,000 troops & several warships across a wide geography. Indian MSM silent

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 19 Apr 2018 17:13

Manish_P wrote:Mind boggling numbers. Just imagine how the paranoid uniformed jihadis across the border must have been feeling (despite the prior intimation). All leaves canceled.. the afsaran telling their mohtarmas to be packed, just in case.. extra security around the prized jewels.. We should do this more often :)



Why?? It has cost the country a bomb.

The solid capability has been demonstrated and the right quarters have taken note.

Some "quarters" very much more than others. There will be much rhona dhona across two borders for some time now.

At least across one particular border, somebody's much publized doctrine has been accordingly modified to include vast quantities of burnol as well as toilet paper.

meanwhile, their main toilet paper supplier is facing some peculiar problems of their own and this has made their customer's life quite miserable as well as complicated. The vast numbers of the mohtarmas, four wives of each of the afsaran will have to pack a large supply of brown shalwars for each of the mards.

The unorthodox method ensures that the public bathroom at the Temple of Heaven Park disposes only a small amount of paper — approximately two feet in length — for each person once every nine minutes, following an initial face scan to store the identity of the user.

1) two feet in length — for each person once every nine minutes -----This generous quantity may not even be enough for the esteemed office of the COAS itself.

2) following an initial face scan to store the identity of the user.------- Will the facial recognization S/W work with a panicked face??

3) dispenser powered by facial recognition software. --------How will the pakis ever be able to afford the replacement batteries on their own??








China is fighting toilet paper thieves with facial recognition software


Biometric authentication is moving from phones to laptops and onward to... public bathrooms. Chinese authorities in Beijing are now combating a toilet paper stealing epidemic by locking the supplies away behind a dispenser powered by facial recognition software, according to a report from The New York Times.

TP IS NOT FREE

The unorthodox method ensures that the public bathroom at the Temple of Heaven Park disposes only a small amount of paper — approximately two feet in length — for each person once every nine minutes, following an initial face scan to store the identity of the user. The change marks the first time in a decade the park has taken such drastic measures to reduce its chronic toilet paper theft.


Naturally, this has left some residents quite upset. It’s apparently not uncommon for some people in China to use public facilities as a way to stock up on free supplies like hand soap, paper towels, and toilet paper. According to The New York Times, some facilities in Shanghai and other Chinese cities decline to provide any toilet paper whatsoever for this reason, while others provide only a common roll for everyone to use.

But it’s not just the free TP crackdown that has some residents mad. No, it’s the amount of toilet paper being dispensed, or rather the lack thereof. “The sheets are too short,” Wang Jianquan, a retired mall manager, told the paper. The devices that dispense the paper cost $750, the report says, and may start popping up throughout the entire park if the initial test run proves effective.



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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Kersi » 19 Apr 2018 17:25

nachiket wrote:Kersi saar, please don't quote the entirety of a long post to add a single line. And yes MBS is Mohammad bin Salman - crown prince (and de facto ruler) of Saudi Arabia.


Yes Sir. Very Sorry. I realised it later

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Shankk » 19 Apr 2018 17:38

nits wrote:Wargame wins praise from unlikely quarters

On the fact that about 10,000 ground support personnel working together and more than 3,000 air sorties were being planned, it said: “It also shows that India has established and established a complete logistics system”.

On much-delayed LCA project, the report says that despite being very late, LCA over the last 30 years has produced a bountiful harvest of a very large number of “technicians cultivated and promoted through LCA research and development”.

Besides testing IAF’s war-readiness, the other big objective of Gagan Shakti is to study the logistical sustainability of a “short, intense and swift” war as they are predicted to be in future.


Highlighted part is I believe the most important aspect of capabilities.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Shankk » 19 Apr 2018 17:40

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/986677587522064384

So @IAF_MCC's Op Gaganshakti has put the PLAAF on notice. However, this exercise would not be possible without IACCS & IMMOLS. Expect the PLASSF to target both in aid of the PLAAF. India must indigenize all critical elements associated with both.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Singha » 19 Apr 2018 19:09

we could start by banning ZTE and Huawei from all telecom deals and a time bound program to remove them from our telco networks?
one can audit sw code but how does one audit what is inside hardwired asics and fpga that will trigger on a satellite signal or particular pattern of data packets?

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ramana » 19 Apr 2018 19:28

First Indian media is anti-national and hence ignores the impact of Gagan Shakti.
India is the only country where antinational defense correspondents are plenty and dominate the media.
Take for example the moron who saw problems in Tejas in this massive display of air power.

Gaganshakti will be noted in many quarters and not just the two neighbors.

Chetak is right about costs and wear and tear. Already Gagan Shakti is on a ~10 - 12 year cycle. I would prefer its on a firm 10 year cycle with mini-3 year cycle for each of the fronts/theaters.

Singha, Logic of strategy would say not to do that. That's the expected move.


PS. Soon after 1998 nuke tests, IAF had a big exercise Gajraj. I extrapolated the data from the published account and estimate the number of sorties by combat planes etc. I used the demonstrated CEP and aircraft munitions loads for area targets and the availability of laser pods for point targets. I used attrition rates from 1971 war which give upper bound.
It was very illuminating.


This version of GaganShakti is three orders of magnitude than that earlier one and is full spectrum joint services exercise. Even though the numbers of the IA and IN are small look at the methodology to get an idea of what is demonstrated.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 19 Apr 2018 22:28

Another thing interesting about Gagan Shakti is the movement towards Eastern sector, I have not heard of many large scale exercises on eastern sector by IAF, except Pralay in 2012 & 16(IIRC). This seems to be significant higher in everything. For the first time such exercise on places where weather terrain and infrastructure are not in your favor is always a challenging thing.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Rakesh » 19 Apr 2018 23:47

Interesting observation ArjunPandit. My reading is that after that annihilation of the PAF (I say that in all seriousness and without hyperbole), it made sense for the IAF to game the theory of moving the assets from the western theatre to bolster the eastern theatre.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Apr 2018 03:16

regarding the cost, the red flag exercise which involve a handful of planes(compared to GaganShakti) costed 100 crores. Wondering how much this would have costed.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/i ... 601788.ece

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Apr 2018 06:38

Long back someone had asked that why there are no major army exercises on the eastern front and i think it was Rohitvats who answered that right now everything is not in place, but things are being worked out to perform at increasingly larger levels (or something like that). Hopefully in few years time, when MSC is fully ready we will see
1. IAF and IA joint exercises over Leh/Ladakh regions of much focussed troop transfer, arty movement
2. Increasingly peaceful china,
3. In some sense we will do to China what pakistan has been doing to us(If i am allowed to use this analogy), divert resources for china. 4. Untill now they have been keeping resources on indian border just to needle us, but going forward they will have to deploy and lose men like they did in aftermath of Dokalam. Will be interesting to see that in a single kid generation.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby vasu raya » 20 Apr 2018 06:51

How did the IAF manage without affecting civilian traffic?

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Manish_P » 20 Apr 2018 13:53

chetak wrote: Why?? It has cost the country a bomb.


I know, Sir. I meant that partly tongue-in-cheek and partly jingoistically. Spending money during peacetime saves a whole lot more during war time.

What kind of timing would an exercise of this magnitude require. The timing seems to be significant given that it has conveyed the right message not just to the neighbors but others as well...

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby shiv » 20 Apr 2018 14:14

vasu raya wrote:How did the IAF manage without affecting civilian traffic?

Civilian traffic would have been warned to stay out of certain zones

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 20 Apr 2018 14:35

Manish_P wrote:
chetak wrote: Why?? It has cost the country a bomb.


I know, Sir. I meant that partly tongue-in-cheek and partly jingoistically. Spending money during peacetime saves a whole lot more during war time.

What kind of timing would an exercise of this magnitude require. The timing seems to be significant given that it has conveyed the right message not just to the neighbors but others as well...


It would have taken enormous efforts to plan, refine, coordinate and execute.

The hans would have had a birds eye view of the entire show, as would the US, russia, EU, israel, japan and many others with satellite capabilities, they all would also have hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of recorded communications, radar and other emissions so the hans particularly would also be as happy as pigs in schitt.

It will take us much more effort both in time and critical analysis to draw definite conclusions from the results and such appreciation will result in some doctrinaire changes in deployment as well new challenges in field logistics.

But, Manish_P ji, while appreciating your thought, we also need to factor in the replacement costs of consumed airframe, component and engine lives, the wear and tear to systems especially artillery and tracked armour and the spares consumed and the accelerated attrition of systems and assets in all three services.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby chetak » 20 Apr 2018 14:42

shiv wrote:
vasu raya wrote:How did the IAF manage without affecting civilian traffic?

Civilian traffic would have been warned to stay out of certain zones


They would have issued NOTAMs for all concerned spaces, air and sea, to warn all users of danger areas and delineating the exercise area boundaries

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Kakarat » 20 Apr 2018 14:57

I think the name of the new C-130J is No 87 Raiding Raptors

From:
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/985382500687073281
Great shots in from Exercise Gagan Shakti. A C-130J from the Raiding Raptors squadron with its load of commando paratroopers.


We should update our BR Squadrons and Helicopter Units page accordingly http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Units ... drons.html

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby tsarkar » 20 Apr 2018 14:58

Gaganshakti is money well spent.

Large force exercises require massive degree of command, control and coordination, lack of which led to the following USAF failure in Gulf War 1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_Q_Strike

Which is why the Chinese correctly appreciated the significance of this exercise.

The other benefit is the deterrence effect.

Combined with DANX in November, Eastern Naval Command Exercise ENCORE in February and WNC Exercise Paschim Leher in March, we're ready for large scale war at any theatre.

DANX http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=173818

ENCORE http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=176350

Paschim Leher http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=176906

this exercise also saw enhanced participation by the aircraft of the Indian Air Force, with coordinated flying missions with the IN air assets. Maritime role Jaguars, Su-30 MKI, AWACS, Flight Refuellers participated in large numbers from different airfields in Gujarat, Maharashtra and North India. An amphibious landing was also conducted, which included the participation of the 91 Inf Bde of the Indian Army.


The Chinese are wise to realize it. The Paki wet dream of land grab during a two front war will remain a wet dream.

More such exercises will hone our force's strategic capabilities. And send a message to our enemies.

Gaganshakti is much better PsyOps.

BTW do people realize how busy pilots and engineers are since every month there is a major exercise.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby jaysimha » 20 Apr 2018 17:46

Exercise Gaganshakti-2018: Hon’ble Raksha Mantri Visits Air Force Station Chabua

Hon’ble Raksha Mantri Smt Nirmala Sitharaman visited Air Force Station Chabua today, to witness and assess the ongoing IAF operations. She was accompanied by Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa. They visited Pasighat Advanced Landing Ground, where the operations by Su-30 MKI fighters, C-17 Globemaster aircraft and rocket loading on Mi-17 V5 helicopters were demonstrated. At Pasighat ALG, they also witnessed a mesmerizing assault drill by the IAF’s Garuds, who had landed earlier by the C-17 Globemaster.
Hon’ble RM thereafter visited the Air to Ground weapons range at Dullong Mukh, where a well planned and coordinated strike package of Su-30 aircraft orchestrated precise and concentrated delivery of Laser Guided 1000 Lbs, conventional 1000 Lbs and 100 Kg bombs. Mi-17 V5 Helicopters also demonstrated their strike capability in the armed role wherein they delivered 80mm rockets on a simulated target.
After witnessing the mesmerizing ALG and strike operations, she witnessed accelerated fighter operations at Chabua, interacted with the air warriors and was also briefed on employment of Air Power in the defence of Eastern Sector.
To gauge the operational capability and preparedness of the IAF, the Hon’ble RM has been visiting various Air Force establishments. Recently, she had flown a Su-30 MKI aircraft at Jodhpur, to gain first hand experience of the operational capability of this versatile fighter platform. These visits by the Hon’ble Raksha Mantri would go a long way in enhancing the motivation of the air warriors and bolstering their commitment towards security of the Nation.
Exercise Gaganshakti-2018, is a large scale IAF exercise which is currently in its second phase. The assets have now been deployed along the northern region and operations are taking place in full swing. These operations, under the umbrella of net centricity, supported by combat enablers like AWACS, FRA and ISR assets, will give the operators a near real time experience of conducting sustained and challenging operations in a simulated short and intense war scenario.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Indranil » 22 Apr 2018 08:41

The value of Gaganshakti cannot be understated.

While IAF uses the Hawks with ATGMs, rockets, HAL should resurrected the HJT-39 program with twin HTFE-25 engines for AJT/CAS.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby SriKumar » 22 Apr 2018 18:21

Just wondering if Gaganshakti involved deployments, movements or actual firing of Brahmos (individual or salvos). Am assuming it must have been, it is after all Gagan Shakti.....and so anything air-breathing and within limits of gagan would fit. What about A5 and A4 mobile units..... if not done in Gagan shakti, that would be a good thing to do in a VyomShakti exercise.....With so much going on in antariksh that affects performance on gagan and dharti, a vyomshakti exercise should be considered, one assumes.

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2018 20:14

Namo is visiting peking next week

Ex was well timed

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Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Postby Lalmohan » 22 Apr 2018 22:31

if you think about it, in first phase if assets were busy on the western front, then other types of assets have to be deployed on the northern front to contain a foe who has considerable deployable strength


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