Indian Naval Aviation

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 02 May 2019 03:41

Private players cry foul as HAL submits 2 bids for mega Navy chopper deal
https://theprint.in/defence/private-pla ... al/229335/

State-owned HAL has filed one bid on its own and one with Russian Helicopters for the Naval Utility Helicopter. The Indian Navy wants to purchase 111 NUHs.

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Postby Rakesh » 02 May 2019 03:42

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1119846418242506752 ----> Sweet shot of an Indian Navy Sea King Mk 42B at AUSINDEX!

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby ramana » 02 May 2019 07:01

Rakesh wrote:Private players cry foul as HAL submits 2 bids for mega Navy chopper deal
https://theprint.in/defence/private-pla ... al/229335/

State-owned HAL has filed one bid on its own and one with Russian Helicopters for the Naval Utility Helicopter. The Indian Navy wants to purchase 111 NUHs.

Looks like the protest too much as they want to do screwdriver giri with

Of the international OEMs, Leonardo is currently blacklisted. The Russians are also in the race, but the Navy doesn’t seem too keen on the Kamov choppers. Bell Helicopter’s Bell 429 and Sikorsky’s S-76 have certain non-compliance issues with respect to the Navy’s specific requirements. The companies could carry out changes, but this would involve expenditure.

The front-runner seems to be Airbus, which is trying to push AS565, a platform that’s more than 30 years old.

So at-least navy has choice of two helicopters both HAL associated.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby sankum » 02 May 2019 08:11

Hal two bids are Ka226 and nluh version of naval Dhruv with automatic folding of rotors and tail and MTOW restricted to 5T.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby sankum » 02 May 2019 08:15

If IN preference is for Naval Panther then nluh version of naval Dhruv will beat it on price.
In the lighter class naval Ka226 will beat others on price.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby abhik » 02 May 2019 09:54

Why should designed and manufactured in India Dhruv have to compete against screwdriver-giri solutions? Beyond being a corporate welfare program + another avenue for paying protection money.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby chola » 05 May 2019 15:02

The Charles de Gaulle in Goa for carrier exercise with Vikramaditya!

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Vivek K » 06 May 2019 04:22

abhik wrote:Why should designed and manufactured in India Dhruv have to compete against screwdriver-giri solutions? Beyond being a corporate welfare program + another avenue for paying protection money.

Totally agree. Throwing money at others only makes India weaker and not stronger.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 07 May 2019 03:04

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1125380356591575045 ---> Superb little story today by Sandeep Unnithan on what happened to the eyes & claws of the Indian Navy's iconic Sea Harrier jump-jets after they were retired a few years ago.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 07 May 2019 03:05

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1124355069283987456 ----> Indian Navy cleared by MoD to procure 10 additional Kamov-31 AEW helicopters from Russia at a cost of ₹3,600 crore.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 07 May 2019 03:36

I missed this from last September.....but very important point highlighted in bold. Until now, I was only aware of Boeing having made the claim. This is a BIG plus for the Rafale M. The only other sticking factor - apart from cost - is the width of the Rafale and the width of the elevators on the Vikramaditya and the upcoming Vikrant. If they can successfully do that, the Rafale M is a clear winner based on commonality with the Indian Air Force. Great cost savings galore between the two services!

Unfazed by Rafale fire, France offers fighter for Navy
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 958113.cms
26 Sept 2018

SUPER HORNET VS RAFALE MARINE

Beyond the 36 jets that the air force has ordered, the French side is confident about its prospects for a deal with the Indian Navy, which is trying to find new jets for the indigenous aircraft carrier under construction in Kochi. While the navy has used Russian MiG 29 K jets till now, it wants to progress to a new aircraft due to several technical problems with the fleet. The tenders for the contract are expected to be issued shortly but it is likely to be a straight contest between the Boeing-made F/A-18 Super Hornet and the Rafale Marine. The French Navy believes that it has demonstrated its ability to operate from foreign carriers. “The Rafale went to the US and was deployed on American aircraft carriers,” said Boidevezi. “The Rafale was perfectly integrated with the US and has shown its capability to work with non-French platforms.”

Both the F/A 18 and Rafale Marine fighter jets have been operating from aircraft carriers but are rigged for catapult launches. This may pose problems for India as the navy uses the ski jump system, which involves a runway that curves upward. Sources said that extensive tests and software analysis have been conducted by the French side on the Rafale to show that it can operate with a meaningful load from ski jump carriers. This data has also been shared with the Indian Navy that is currently drafting technical requirements for the new fighter competition. Boeing, which makes the Super Hornet, has also shared this data with the Indian Navy. Once the requirements are firmed up and permissions obtained from the ministry of defence, tenders will be issued.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Aditya_V » 07 May 2019 08:30

Wonder what do the Dornier 228 use the EL 2032's for?

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Cain Marko » 07 May 2019 09:20

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1124355069283987456 ----> Indian Navy cleared by MoD to procure 10 additional Kamov-31 AEW helicopters from Russia at a cost of ₹3,600 crore.

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Great news. Any news about the AAR capability they planned on giving it?

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Cain Marko » 07 May 2019 09:30

Aditya_V wrote:Wonder what do the Dornier 228 use the EL 2032's for?

Supposed to have excellent A2S resolution... Perhaps it will enable the but to strike surface threats?

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Aditya_V » 07 May 2019 11:29

Hmm, but shows there were enough differences that it was not considered worthwhile to use these 11 radars on LCA Tejas

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Cain Marko » 07 May 2019 11:48

^ I think lca nose cone is too big, 650mm? and not optimal for shar based 2032. Theyd be a better for for jags or I guess the dorniers.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby VikramA » 07 May 2019 11:56

Aditya_V wrote:Hmm, but shows there were enough differences that it was not considered worthwhile to use these 11 radars on LCA Tejas


I think it might be due to service requirements. Derby was transferred because with harrier retirement there was no platform in navy left that could use the missiles. Where as 2032 could be retrofitted to the donier and the IN might have been hesitant to transfer useable assets to another service(IAF) especially with financial constraints

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 09 May 2019 20:54

Now here is something you do not get to see every day.

P-8I (Serial # IN 320) with four AGM-84 Harpoon AShMs under the wing.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Karan M » 09 May 2019 21:00

Aditya_V wrote:Hmm, but shows there were enough differences that it was not considered worthwhile to use these 11 radars on LCA Tejas


LCA has Hybrid MMR not EL/M-2032. Indian antenna, gimbal and Elta backend.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 09 May 2019 21:00

Another interesting picture. This photo is courtesy of Admiral Arun Prakash (retd), former Chief of Naval Staff. This was the paint scheme until it shifted to an all grey colour scheme.

https://twitter.com/arunp2810/status/11 ... 5618609153 ---> A sight to gladden one's heart! Newly painted Sea Harrier FRS Mk 51 (Serial # IN 609) displaying White Tiger on tail & AAR probe on shoulder. This veteran, after 34 yrs of colour service, has been assigned 'gate-guardian' duty of the erstwhile 'Home of the Sea Harrier'; NAS Dabolim.

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Below is IN 609 during her flying days. Notice no AAR probe! This photo is courtesy of Angad Singh.

Go Here for Photo Details ----> https://www.airliners.net/photo/India-N ... XW9QsV/zHO

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