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Looks like a lot of work has gone into our EO/IR sensors. Hope they can take the same and fit it into a Tapas-Navy UAV. With 1000s of Kms of coastline, we will need 100s of Tapas-N's to keep a near constant watch.
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At 1:53 Dr Tessy Thomas explains the sensors developed for this application

Meanwhile a report from Jane's.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ces-delays

Aero India 2023: India's C295 maritime patrol aircraft faces delays
Janes understands that the DAC has requested clarifications about the project and that development has been halted until clarifications are sent to the DAC and assessed. Speaking at Aero India 2023, DRDO project leaders declined to elaborate at the time of publication.

However, Janes understands that the government is assessing the project's electronic intelligence (ELINT) capability and the potential integration into the proposed C295 MPA of advanced sensors such as the active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. The AESA radar planned for the aircraft is a version of the S-band (2−4 GHz) primary surveillance radar (PSR) integrated with the Embraer EMB-145 Netra airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft.
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https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/16 ... 64226?s=20 ---> With the Indian Navy's P-8I fleet crossing 35,000+ flying hours supporting #India's national security missions, here's a map comprising of some publicly available, mission flights, between 2021-2023.

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https://twitter.com/IndiumOak/status/16 ... 44226?s=20 ---> Indian Navy's two MQ-9s successfully completed 10,000+ hours of flying within two years. Covered over 14 million square miles. Here is publically available flight path data of both drones from the last two years.

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https://twitter.com/IndiumOak/status/16 ... 21696?s=20 ---> MQ-9s seen flying near Maldives water, Line of Actual Control, Arabian Sea, Bay of Bengal & performing ISR near Andaman & Nicobar Islands.

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https://twitter.com/asliwon/status/1613 ... 38827?s=20 ---> Can you please explain how is 10,000 hours over 2 years between 2 units even possible to achieve? I see issues with relying on this methodology, as even the US Air Force does not achieve comparable rates, and they are world no. 1 user of the platform.

https://twitter.com/IndiumOak/status/16 ... 34080?s=20 ---> That's around 13 hours of surveillance everyday, 2 units very much possible. But I'm not sure about how they managed to fly everyday and keeping the maintenance work.

https://twitter.com/asliwon/status/1613 ... 50825?s=20 ---> I don't think that's possible at all actually, especially because things break, take time to fix, take time to prepare, people get sick or take time off, and everything else in-between.
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https://twitter.com/tropicostation/stat ... 72384?s=20 ---> Wow, an Indian Navy MH-60R Seahawk (IN752) over Glendale! IN752 was the second MH-60R delivered to the Indian Navy and is used to train crews at NAS North Island. I see a lot of MH-60s, but this is my first foreign example.

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https://twitter.com/Chopsyturvey/status ... 54080?s=20 ---> The Super Hornet Is Going to Die - Boeing will soon end production on the F/A-18E/F Strike Fighter — unless India steps in. Would India be that crazy?

The Super Hornet Is Going to Die
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Looks like the navy has also procured the Rampage air to surface missile for the Miig29s. Can see a tender issued for constructing a test facility at NAD Goa.

So far all the chatter on this forum was about iAF getting it for the Su-30s. Though given it's low weight, it could be employed across the entire fleet incl mirage, jags, 29s, rafales, etc unlike the Brahmos which can be carried only by a small number of specially strengthened mkis.
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The @indiannavy CNS talking about MRCBF clearly (in my opinion) seems to indicate the Rafale is the preferred candidate as it’s in service with the @IAF_MCC and costs (amortised with the original tranche).

09:25 the CNS says the plan for Vikrant includes LCA-N, does that mean there is a chance of some production LCA-N being ordered (in very limited numbers) I wonder? Would be weird to mention the NPs as they aren’t IN assets and aren’t combat machines either.

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MeshaVishwas wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:What is the Utility helicopters for the Indian Navy- IMRH?
Aditya, the deal is for 60 ALH Navy Mark-3
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https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1 ... 33472?s=20 ---> HAL ALH Mk III at Aero India 2023.

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https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status ... 69092?s=20 ---> Utility Helicopter Marine is a new version of the navalized Advanced Light Helicopter type which has been designed for efficacious stowage aboard naval ships. Watch our video on this for more:

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As predicted, logic won out

NUH (buy global) is dead

https://twitter.com/ksingh_1469/status/ ... L0BRyMQdjg

Although only 60 units vs the 111 projected

ALH will be in production beyond 2030 at least
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Rafale M during her sea trials at INS Hansa in Dabolim, Goa. Jan 2022.

Photographer: https://www.instagram.com/the.naval.aviator/

https://twitter.com/_devildog_rv_/statu ... 93664?s=20 ---> Dassault Rafale M at INS Hansa.

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https://twitter.com/IN_GNA/status/16410 ... 57570?s=20 ---> INAS 316, the Condors, celebrate their first anniversary on 29 March 2023, completing their first glorious year in the service of the nation. INAS 316 has enabled extension of footprint of reach of the western seaboard.

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India moves closer towards USD 300 million weapons deal with US for its Navy
https://www.aninews.in/news/national/ge ... 403190637/
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https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... BFomuaYzwg —> Rampage air to surface missile on Indian Navy MiG-29K. We had made an exclusive video on the deal. Check it here.

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Dimwits in Alphadefense say that a target will be placed on top a building in naval armament depot goa and missile will be tested against / on that target. Single digit IQs.
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prashantsharma wrote:Dimwits in Alphadefense say that a target will be placed on top a building in naval armament depot goa and missile will be tested against / on that target. Single digit IQs.
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Indian Navy to replace MiG-29K fleet after 2035 due to quality concerns
https://www.firstpost.com/india/indian- ... 39122.html
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prashantsharma wrote:Dimwits in Alphadefense say that a target will be placed on top a building in naval armament depot goa and missile will be tested against / on that target. Single digit IQs.
Perhaps they wanted to say that the seeker of the captive missile will be tested for it's ability to discriminate and lock on capacity.
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No. That is not what they meant and it doesn't make sense even if it was what they meant.
You can check the tender.
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https://twitter.com/IN_WNC/status/16597 ... 43203?s=20 ---> Vice Admiral Dinesh K Tripathi, FOC-in-C WNC, inaugurated the maiden MAFI Project (Modernisation of Airfield Infrastructure) at INS Hansa, Goa on 19 May 2023.

https://twitter.com/IN_WNC/status/16597 ... 70433?s=20 ---> This Cat-II AFLS (Airfield Lighting System) and ILS (Instrument Landing System) capability will enable safe military and civil flying operations in extreme low visibility and adverse weather conditions, greatly enhancing overall preparedness of the Air Station.

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https://twitter.com/IN_WNC/status/16597 ... 45185?s=20 ---> The C-in-C also inaugurated state-of-the-art Naval Airfield Integrated Security System at the air station. The fully automated system manufactured by M/s BEL will enhance overall security of the Station. Six such systems will be inducted into the Indian Navy in the near future.

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Indian Naval Aviation I Where does India Stand in Naval Aviation
With Rear Admiral Mukul Asthana (Retd)


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https://twitter.com/VivekSi85847001/sta ... 98660?s=20 ---> Naval Utility Helicopter - HAL CEO said that AON (Acceptance of Necessity) for supply contract of 60 NUH is already given. Project is cruising fast, as we have already done segment blade and tail boom folding. Development will be over in 2 to 3 years and total deal is Rs 20,000 crore. Another Rs 13,000 crore under Performance Based Logistics (PBL) making total of Rs 33,000 crore deal for the NUH. All Naval Chetak helicopters will be replaced by it in the near future. Navy NUH program is for 111 helicopters in total and will work with existing ALH Dhruv Mk3, MH-60 Romeo & Sea King Mk42 helicopters.

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https://twitter.com/AN_Command/status/1 ... 86273?s=20 ---> Air Marshal Saju Balakrishnan, AVSM, VM, C-in-C ANC embarked P-8I of INAS 312 during a surveillance sortie off Andamans to gain insight into the aircraft's capability. During interaction with aircrew C-in-C appreciated their professionalism, conduct & operational readiness!

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In Sept 2022, this news reporter came out with this piece (why the F-18SH is superior to the Rafale M) --->

NewsReel | Could India finally get its first U.S. fighter?
https://twitter.com/StratPost/status/15 ... 24640?s=20

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Then in Feb 2023, the same reporter came out with this piece....

26 by ’26: India has a chance to get new naval fighters quickly, with Boeing’s Super Hornet production ending
https://stratpost.com/26-by-26-india-ha ... on-ending/
24 Feb 2023

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After realizing that they (Boeing) may likely lose the MRCBF contest (on technical merits), the same reporter tries another strategy. Video published today (22 June 2023). Another video riddled with factual errors and cringe worthy predictions. On what a tangled web we weave... :roll:

And by the way, see the title below - "July Walkover"? Guess which international country NaMo is visiting in July 2023? Google It :)

Somewhere in the world, an organization is sweatin' :rotfl:

NewsReel | Indian Navy fighter pick likely by July walkover



If the above video is accurate....Boeing would rather have the entire MRCBF contest thrown out the window, than give INS Vikrant a credible deck based fighter. What a wonderful dog-in-the-manger attitude.
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PM Modi may unveil Rafale-M deal on Bastille Day
The Indian Navy has expressed its preference for the deck-based French Rafale Marine over the F-18 Super Hornets of the US.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is likely to announce a multi-billion dollar deal to acquire 26 Rafale Marine fighter jets during his visit to France. The Prime Minister will be in France on July 17 this year as the guest of honour at the Bastille Day parade.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... 86665.html
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With MQ9, GE 414, Artemis space program & M777s, Modi Ji is keeping Unkil happy

With Rafale-M, he will keep France happy

Wondering if P-75I will keep Germany happy?
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Germany doesn't deserve to be kept happy.

The Navy handing over a kilo class sub for battery research is a step in the right direction.

The Navy should also increase the scope of the project to other areas of submarine performance.
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Prem Kumar wrote:With MQ9, GE 414, Artemis space program & M777s, Modi Ji is keeping Unkil happy

With Rafale-M, he will keep France happy

Wondering if P-75I will keep Germany happy?
Tathastu


Maybe we add more MH 60R and P8I
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Kersi wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:With MQ9, GE 414, Artemis space program & M777s, Modi Ji is keeping Unkil happy

With Rafale-M, he will keep France happy

Wondering if P-75I will keep Germany happy?
Tathastu


Maybe we add more MH 60R and P8I
And more chinooks! Logistics are very important to any military operation undertaken.
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Rakesh wrote:In Sept 2022, this news reporter came out with this piece (why the F-18SH is superior to the Rafale M) --->
ahh.. Saurabh Joshi.. Once exchanged a few posts to explain ballistics, how barrel length affects it & how making a suitable rifle is not strictly only an engineering problem. This was long back during the first rifle tender after INSAS.
TLDR; got blackpilled on Indian defence journalists.
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Lot of details on the MQ-9B procurement for the IN, especially the cost of operation, time on station vs the P-8I. Additionally the ability of the MQ-9B, P8-I and the MH-60R to hand off the ability to detect the same sonobuoys to each other.
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Anoop wrote:Lot of details on the MQ-9B procurement for the IN, especially the cost of operation, time on station vs the P-8I. Additionally the ability of the MQ-9B, P8-I and the MH-60R to hand off the ability to detect the same sonobuoys to each other.
Wow excellent detailed discussion. Worthy of a watch.
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Prem Kumar wrote:With MQ9, GE 414, Artemis space program & M777s, Modi Ji is keeping Unkil happy

With Rafale-M, he will keep France happy

Wondering if P-75I will keep Germany happy?
On the other hand, he is doing this to keep the Military happy and the Chinese unhappy.
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https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/sta ... 45952?s=20 ---> Triangle of US-supplied platforms, undersea sound surveillance will help the Indian Navy track Chinese submarines. @sarkarshanta reports: https://www.news9live.com/india/triangl ... es-2190944

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Rakeshji , what undersea sound surveillance system do we have?
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Tanaji wrote:Rakeshji , what undersea sound surveillance system do we have?
We have access to info/analysis from the American SOSUS network. This is a data-sharing agreement we have with Unkil. That's what all these acronym agreements were for (BECA, CISMOA etc.). That's why they set up IMAC (the Information Monitoring and Analysis Centre) in Gurgaon, manned not only by Indian military personnel, but also by fellow Quad members and some friendly non-Quad liaison officers (if I remember right: France, Britain, Singapore and South Korea. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel and UAE are there too).

Also, every bit of info obtained from IN ships and aircraft (P8I, drones etc.) goes to the IMAC and is available for everyone there to see.
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Tanaji wrote:Rakeshji , what undersea sound surveillance system do we have?
Information of this nature belongs to don't ask don't tell catagory.

I don't believe any civillian will know with any degree of certainty about the undersea surveillance capacity of any nation.

Such questions should never be asked.
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