Indian Naval Aviation

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Singha » 02 Feb 2018 21:08

well the russians themselves have been unable to fix the Mig29K for carrier ops so far. their kuznetsov trip to syria was not successful.
they are putting all money into rebuilding the submarine fleet, not even the Leader class new DDGs are funded, it will be low priority for them given they are not into expeditionary sea based attacks.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 02 Feb 2018 21:17

Cybaru wrote:Is it not possible to accommodate 3 dhruvs instead of the 2 large choppers at the moment on the ships? Till then maybe they add more resources to get same level of service? This might be a stupid question, but just asking.


Guys this makes little sense (using Dhruv for ASW roles, 3 dhruvs instead of 2 Sea Kings). You are serious naval watchers. Surely you thought about how much minimum payload is needed (a dunking sonar and sonobuoys and torpedo ) and how much minimum time to target and time on station is needed for ASW ops. I want to see some numbers on these parameters - and well thought of. Think of yourselves in this tactical role - - hunting subs.

Sorry I am asking you think seriously on a Friday evening :-)

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby NRao » 08 Feb 2018 19:15

Boeing in talks with Indian Navy to sell F/A-18 fighter jets

Feb 5, 2018.

Boeing Co. is in talks with the Indian Navy to sell its F/A-18 Hornet fighter jets in a bid to gain a bigger share of the defence market in the South Asian country, the world’s biggest arms importer.

A lot of technical evaluation has yet to take place, Gene Cunningham, Boeing’s vice president for defence, space and security, told reporters at the Singapore Airshow. The company is also seeing opportunities for its KC-46 multirole tanker in India and other countries, Cunningham said.

India’s navy last year invited proposals for 57 jets for its aircraft carriers, while its air force is seeking at least 100 planes.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 10 Feb 2018 01:24

X-Post from SEF Thread.... :lol:

Indian Navy, Air Force fighter jet contests to heat up in 2019: Executives
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 854470.cms

Boeing Co and Saab AB, which are among those vying for a contract to supply 57 fighter jets for the Indian Navy, expect it may take until 2019 for the tender process to enter the next phase, according to company executives. The naval contract, as well as a less-advanced plan to buy 100 fighter jets for the Indian Air Force, represent multi-billion dollar opportunities for manufacturers and for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "Make in India" drive to build a domestic production base. But with the country due to hold a general election by next May, the expectation is both processes could take time. Boeing is proposing its F/A-18 Super Hornet and Saab has touted its Gripen M concept in
responses to a request for information (RFI) on the naval contract but they are waiting for a more formal request for proposal (RFP) to be issued.

Boeing Vice President Global Sales Defence, Space & Security Gene Cunningham said the Indian Navy and Ministry of Defence were evaluating the answers to the RFI to see if there were any changes to requirements or expectations before releasing the RFP. "We see that evolving over the next year or so, then driving to a competition," he told Reuters at the Singapore Airshow. An Indian Navy spokesman said work was in progress and he expected an RFP would be issued in the months ahead detailing specific requirements. Dassault Aviation SA has expressed interest in the navy tender with its twin-engine Rafale M fighter and Russian Aircraft Corporation has reportedly proposed the Indian Navy buy more MiG-29Ks. The firms did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

AIR FORCE FIGHTERS

The separate air force contract, expected to be for 100 single-engine fighters, has attracted Saab's Gripen E and Lockheed Martin Corp
with its F-16, but the contest has yet to reach the RFI stage. "Hopefully we get an RFI this year," Saab Head of Asia Pacific Dean Rosenfield said. "More than likely, 2019. But it really is dependent on the customer and what they do with the election there as well." Saab has partnered with Adani to build Gripens in India if it wins either or both of the fighter jet contests, while Lockheed has selected Tata Advanced Systems as its local production partner for the F-16. Lockheed Martin International Executive Vice President Rick Edwards said his company was hopeful an RFI on the air force contract would be released "soon" but it remained up to the government. An Indian Air Force spokesman declined to comment on when the RFI would be issued.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby NRao » 10 Feb 2018 05:43

Feb 9, 2018 :: Indian Navy to purchase more P-8i Advanced Submarine Hunter aircraft from the US

In a big move, the Indian Navy will purchase more P-8i Advanced Submarine Hunter aircraft from the US by 2020. The information was revealed by Steve Tripp, Senior Manager, P-8 A international Global Marketing and sales of the Boeing company during the Singapore Air Show.

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By 2020, the US will deliver four more P-8i to the Indian Navy which will increase the fleet to 12 aircraft.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Philip » 10 Feb 2018 05:46

It's not that simple.The success of Kalibir launched from small corvettes has resulted in major brainstorming in the RuN and a change in tack to their naval shipbuildingg
The need for huge behemoths of WW2 and the Cold War no longer are necessary along with their great cost when very long range PGMs like Kalibir can do the job of a carrier based strike aircraft.Adm.K is right about the sub programme, more stealthy, and sev.CW era N-subs are being divested of huge missiles and replaced by Kalibir.Which is why building a v.expensive Lider class has been found overkill costwise when smaller vessels can do the biz.

They do plan larger carriers for the future, but prudently shelved/postponed these .The success of their land-based long range bombers , veteran SsBNsalso armed with LR stand- off cruise missiles with v.accurate CEPs gives them the LR strike capability in any ocean assisted by their SSGNs.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby brar_w » 10 Feb 2018 06:08

Philip wrote:The need for huge behemoths of WW2 and the Cold War no longer are necessary along with their great cost when very long range PGMs like Kalibir can do the job of a carrier based strike aircraft.


Think about the part in bold long and hard. Do you seriously believe this to be true?

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Philip » 10 Feb 2018 09:30

For our needs not that of the US which wants to indulge in expeditionary warfare anywhere on the globe.We will have 2 med CVs by 2020 and with our 3rd unsinkable INS India and 4th INS Andamans and Nicobar we are quite comfortable.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Cain Marko » 10 Feb 2018 09:35

A third carrier is not a bad idea but I think another vikrant class should be good enough. Load it up with jsf and osprey based aew.

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Rakesh » 01 Aug 2018 02:52

A must read article on the HAL Dhruv in service with the Indian Naval Air Arm. Also has videos of the HAL Dhruv in action!

Advanced Light Helicopter gives teeth to Navy's airborne ops
https://english.manoramaonline.com/news ... e-ops.html

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Re: Indian Naval Aviation

Postby Khalsa » 01 Aug 2018 15:19

NRao wrote:Feb 9, 2018 :: Indian Navy to purchase more P-8i Advanced Submarine Hunter aircraft from the US

In a big move, the Indian Navy will purchase more P-8i Advanced Submarine Hunter aircraft from the US by 2020. The information was revealed by Steve Tripp, Senior Manager, P-8 A international Global Marketing and sales of the Boeing company during the Singapore Air Show.

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By 2020, the US will deliver four more P-8i to the Indian Navy which will increase the fleet to 12 aircraft.

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Time to think Big and further out.
Take the strength to 16.

Bye bye Il-38s anyway in another 8 years or so.
Those things will be coming to end of life , if not we should flog them mercilessly.


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