Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
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Future Astra is not based on the Brahmos motor at all. If anything there are lessons learnt from Akash. But the motor and fuel in general is very different.
Meanwhile, Akash NG will most likely be canisterized. The inside of that canister (for testing its short burn motor) measures 367 mm X 367 mm X 4863 mm. There will be a guide rail on the top, and one wing rail each on the two sides. Draw your own conclusions.
Courtesy: DRDL tender.
Meanwhile, Akash NG will most likely be canisterized. The inside of that canister (for testing its short burn motor) measures 367 mm X 367 mm X 4863 mm. There will be a guide rail on the top, and one wing rail each on the two sides. Draw your own conclusions.
Courtesy: DRDL tender.
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India’s Nirbhay Cruise Missile Ready For ‘Redemption’ Test
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/11 ... -test.html
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/11 ... -test.html
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Which low velocity bombs?ramana wrote:Such low-velocity bombs can get shot down with SAM. Not good idea.
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SAAW is AFAICT "Smart Anti Airfield Weapon". It is a self identifying name. I don't think it means anything else. It is meant to crater airfields and stop adversary aircraft from operating effectively
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@Indranil, of course it will be a different motor. Brahmos NG will likely be 50cm dia while Astra is 17.8cm dia.
Personally I'm not aware of any successful ramjet application by DRDO yet. All I'm saying is if it participates in all new engine being developed for Brahmos NG then it could help other programs. After Meteor, even LREW is moving to ramjet. So logical to start thinking of future Astra development.
Personally I'm not aware of any successful ramjet application by DRDO yet. All I'm saying is if it participates in all new engine being developed for Brahmos NG then it could help other programs. After Meteor, even LREW is moving to ramjet. So logical to start thinking of future Astra development.
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https://twitter.com/livefist/status/926672922214666240 --> The SAAW is currently under test on a twin rack, with a quad pylon to be an option too.
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well are in usual corner - new missile with many fixes and a new engine mated to it.
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Instead of the usual predictions I see on BRF about what will happen in 20 or 50 years, let me predict what will happen in next day of two and bet on it..
I bet will Nirbhay will work this time...
I bet will Nirbhay will work this time...
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My point was the organisation and management structure and style of the BMos Corp. which led to success beyond just developing an anti-ship missile.The JV Corp. has taken it to greater heights with the variants.Ship,sub,land and shortly air-launched versions.Land and mountain attack versions with a new smaller BMos-NG/L version and BMos-H (hyper) in the works.
The quality of the missile too when compared with BMos.I pointed out some time ago the poor body of NB,shoddy riveting,etc.Hard to understand when most of BMos is also made by Indian pvt. industry.The last failure was supposedly due to sub-std. recycled material used ..
Let's hope that we've turned the project around and learn to network with other successful programmes so that we (DPSUS/Labs) partake in a "success mantra"!
Once perfected and in production,NB,BMos and the glide bombs will give us a superb capability where all 3 could be launched from multiple platforms of the 3 services.
The quality of the missile too when compared with BMos.I pointed out some time ago the poor body of NB,shoddy riveting,etc.Hard to understand when most of BMos is also made by Indian pvt. industry.The last failure was supposedly due to sub-std. recycled material used ..
Let's hope that we've turned the project around and learn to network with other successful programmes so that we (DPSUS/Labs) partake in a "success mantra"!
Once perfected and in production,NB,BMos and the glide bombs will give us a superb capability where all 3 could be launched from multiple platforms of the 3 services.
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Nirbhay test will fail onleee
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Before a play's first night,the author/director is wished "break a leg", for good luck.Never wish him the best.
Sarang has the right attitude!
Sarang has the right attitude!
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Heard of Akash ?JTull wrote:@Indranil, of course it will be a different motor. Brahmos NG will likely be 50cm dia while Astra is 17.8cm dia.
Personally I'm not aware of any successful ramjet application by DRDO yet. All I'm saying is if it participates in all new engine being developed for Brahmos NG then it could help other programs. After Meteor, even LREW is moving to ramjet. So logical to start thinking of future Astra development.
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Phillip... a minor quibble. Is it that Brahmos has critical tech from the Russians ..being the reason for its success? for nirbhay which is a totaly indegenous we are still to master that critical tech?
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Nein! We have taken the mizzile to undreamed of heights,improved upon it a lot.It was -if you read Dr.P's book,on the shelf,still awaiting a patron to complete the programme. Of course the main key component ,the engine is Russian,but there's much else to the JV that we've brought to the table,and are marching towards hyper-BMos. It is the style of management that delivers results that is the important factor.The BMos JV like any other corporate entity must deliver results,if not the axe falls on the incompetent.This NEVER happms with our DPSUs and their chiefs,boffins,beancounters,etc.,who lead a charmed life in "Never-Never" land.
No idea about the desi engine development. I don't think that a proper search was made for engines from the pvt. sector,allowing it to enter this domain after the US' sanctions which delayed both the LCA and GSLV programmes. That was the moment for throwing open the doors for desi projects to replace firang defence tech en masse. It never percolated down to our industrial base. The simple truth.NB is being developed by the DRDO in toto,BMos by the BMos Corp.,where Ru is a JV partner along with the DRDO.There's big diff. between the two .
PS:Asked before,what chances for a naval Akash,now that ti is canisterised.B-8 has emerged,supposedly a JV but in truth a firang system,
No idea about the desi engine development. I don't think that a proper search was made for engines from the pvt. sector,allowing it to enter this domain after the US' sanctions which delayed both the LCA and GSLV programmes. That was the moment for throwing open the doors for desi projects to replace firang defence tech en masse. It never percolated down to our industrial base. The simple truth.NB is being developed by the DRDO in toto,BMos by the BMos Corp.,where Ru is a JV partner along with the DRDO.There's big diff. between the two .
PS:Asked before,what chances for a naval Akash,now that ti is canisterised.B-8 has emerged,supposedly a JV but in truth a firang system,
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Nirbhay has been test-fired.
Let us hope all goes well.
Let us hope all goes well.
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#BREAKING: @DRDO_India test fires cruise #missile Nirbhay from a defence range off #Odisha coast. (TheNewIndianXpress )
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Hemant Kumar Rout @Hemant_TNIE 42 minutes ago
TNIE #BREAKING: @DRDO_India test fires homegrown subsonic cruise #missile Nirbhay from a defence range off #Odisha coast. @NewIndianXpress
TNIE #BREAKING: @DRDO_India test fires homegrown subsonic cruise #missile Nirbhay from a defence range off #Odisha coast. @NewIndianXpress
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Wish they had announced after the end of test.
The tension is too much to keep waiting
The tension is too much to keep waiting
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Almost a hour, any further news ...
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May be they are testing for max range. Should take few more minutes.
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no news until now is good news hopefully
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#Nirbhay launch successful, says a DRDO source
https://twitter.com/akananth/status/927792338713350145
https://twitter.com/akananth/status/927792338713350145
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will wait for official announcement...ashishvikas wrote:#Nirbhay launch successful, says a DRDO source
https://twitter.com/akananth/status/927792338713350145
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Boss, please provide a link.shaun wrote:Test failed
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Delhi Defence Review @delhidefence 2m2 minutes ago
NEWS: The @DRDO_India developed subsonic Nirbhay ground launched cruise missile was tested earlier this morning at 1030 hrs. More details are awaited. The missile has a strike range of over a 1000 km.
NEWS: The @DRDO_India developed subsonic Nirbhay ground launched cruise missile was tested earlier this morning at 1030 hrs. More details are awaited. The missile has a strike range of over a 1000 km.
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10:30 is more than 2 hours, wonder what's going on.
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I am afraid of obvious thing, but hope for the best ....
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Delhi Defence Review @delhidefence 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: Sources indicate that this morning's Nirbhay ground launched cruise missile (GLCM) test by @DRDO_India was a success.
Still not official though
BREAKING: Sources indicate that this morning's Nirbhay ground launched cruise missile (GLCM) test by @DRDO_India was a success.
Still not official though
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Anup Sayare @sayareakd
its aint over unless @Hemant_TNIE sings, give us good news #nirbhay missile @DRDO_India
its aint over unless @Hemant_TNIE sings, give us good news #nirbhay missile @DRDO_India
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Hemant Kumar Rout @Hemant_TNIE 22s23 seconds ago
Nirbhay #missile test successful. It travelled along predesignated flight path and homed in on the target. @DRDO_India @NewIndianXpress
I think we can trust this one.
Nirbhay #missile test successful. It travelled along predesignated flight path and homed in on the target. @DRDO_India @NewIndianXpress
I think we can trust this one.
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Rout sir has spoken.
Its mithai time!!
Its mithai time!!
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Wish it traveled for 1500km
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Was the range of test mentioned?
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update after 2 hours so more than 1K is very much possibleKarthik S wrote:Wish it traveled for 1500km
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Usual phrase, over 1000 km.
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https://twitter.com/Hemant_TNIE/status/ ... 6815474688
Nirbhay #missile test successful. It travelled along predesignated flight path and homed in on the target. @DRDO_India @NewIndianXpress
Nirbhay #missile test successful. It travelled along predesignated flight path and homed in on the target. @DRDO_India @NewIndianXpress
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as per @delhidefence it is over 1K KM
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Big congrats to ADE folks if true (they deserve the praise after only all the brickbats all year long)
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If reports are accurate, need to conduct a test very soon to check for reliability.
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In a sense the failures were good, because we saw three different root causes being nailed down, imagine if the actuator delay for the fin happened from the production lot, we would have been screwed