Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
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Old news but has good details.
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If a test target can be set up with heat signature from another tank, I take dummies can be set during war using this method!
Or a method to fool incoming ATGM. in some way.
Or a method to fool incoming ATGM. in some way.
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If the dummies do not move forward with advancing enemy tanks no one will worry about them. Better motorize themnam wrote:If a test target can be set up with heat signature from another tank, I take dummies can be set during war using this method!
Or a method to fool incoming ATGM. in some way.
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Is your geocities page still around? Prior to Rupak's IAF page in 1996....I believe you had the first IAF picture gallery anywhere on the internet. If it is still there, can you please show me the link? I would love to visit for nostalgia purposes.shiv wrote:From my old Geocities page - an image that I had scanned from Vayu
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Rakesh it turns out that my page ended up being preserved by a site called "oocities"Rakesh wrote:Is your geocities page still around? Prior to Rupak's IAF page in 1996....I believe you had the first IAF picture gallery anywhere on the internet. If it is still there, can you please show me the link? I would love to visit for nostalgia purposes.shiv wrote:From my old Geocities page - an image that I had scanned from Vayu
http://www.oocities.org/hotsprings/2839/aircraft.html
The link to BR still works...
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After the air launched Brahmos, can they manage to put a booster on the CBU-105 for increasing the standoff range? US talks about flying pylons that slightly increase the range of the existing AAMs implying no modifications to the payload itself
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cost and complexity increases more the range and the launch a/c can no longer have a direct view of the target.
you are talking of the JSOW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_J ... off_Weapon
AGM-154B (anti-armor)
The warhead for the AGM-154B is the BLU-108/B from the Air Force's Sensor Fuzed Weapon (SFW) program. The JSOW B was to carry six BLU-108/B submunitions. Each submunition releases four projectiles (total of 24 per weapon) that use infrared sensors to detect targets. When a submunition detects that it is aligned with a target, it fires, creating an explosively formed penetrator capable of defeating vehicle armor.
you are talking of the JSOW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_J ... off_Weapon
AGM-154B (anti-armor)
The warhead for the AGM-154B is the BLU-108/B from the Air Force's Sensor Fuzed Weapon (SFW) program. The JSOW B was to carry six BLU-108/B submunitions. Each submunition releases four projectiles (total of 24 per weapon) that use infrared sensors to detect targets. When a submunition detects that it is aligned with a target, it fires, creating an explosively formed penetrator capable of defeating vehicle armor.
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we need 2 things - the chassis itself - garuda, garudamma and saaw are already in IOC.
the weapon - the IIR or MMW fused warhead - perhaps Nag project can provide this tech through domestic seekers which have to be low cost for wide use.
khan has families of delivery chassis, families of sensors and families of warheads and can cobble together a mix and match soln quite fast.
also they have proven aircraft to weapon data link.
the weapon - the IIR or MMW fused warhead - perhaps Nag project can provide this tech through domestic seekers which have to be low cost for wide use.
khan has families of delivery chassis, families of sensors and families of warheads and can cobble together a mix and match soln quite fast.
also they have proven aircraft to weapon data link.
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DRDO has its own sensor fuzed weapon (SFW) akin to those deployed by CBU-105. Might not be working well enough that IAF had to import these US made weapons. Its like an anti-tank grenade with shaped charge. The Pinaka also was to deploy them in one version.
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JayS wrote:Nice to hear something about SANT. Are we planning to put it on our fighters as well..?Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/942738486582317057 -- > Possibly the first *official* mention of DRDO's Standoff Anti-Tank (SANT) missile, an extended range version of the HELINA (10-12 km), possibly with a new seeker.
Very little info from the DRDO website on SANT --> https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/tenders/vi ... icro=19971
JayS,
Nag is barely clearing ground trials. The HELINA is to arm the anti tank helicopters. This SANT is same genre.
Now to ask aircraft to be armed with a helicopter weapon is under kill and puts the aircraft in harms way.
Only anti-tank aircraft weapon I recall is the Maverick by the UASF which has a 125 lb warhead and can take out bridge pylons too.
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Ofcourse, remote controlled vehicles/ UGV.shiv wrote:If the dummies do not move forward with advancing enemy tanks no one will worry about them. Better motorize themnam wrote:If a test target can be set up with heat signature from another tank, I take dummies can be set during war using this method!
Or a method to fool incoming ATGM. in some way.
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Shiv, The Jaguars were armed with a British cluster bomb called BL-755 for use against tanks.
I think DRDO tried to copy it and it didn't work. Ved Shenag used to complain of this effort.
Maybe the CBU-105 are replacements for the BL-755.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL755
Note the radar altimeter fuze to ensure dispersal at height rather than suicidal flights like in Desert Storm.
I think DRDO tried to copy it and it didn't work. Ved Shenag used to complain of this effort.
Maybe the CBU-105 are replacements for the BL-755.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL755
Note the radar altimeter fuze to ensure dispersal at height rather than suicidal flights like in Desert Storm.
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I think Brimstone is a missile which is designed specifically for anti-tank operations from fast moving fliers.
Brimstone WIKI
Brimstone WIKI
India has made a request for information about integrating Brimstone on their Sukhoi Su-30MKI fleet.
Operational range:
Brimstone I:
20+ km (12+ mi) from fixed wing, 12 km (7.5 mi) from rotor wing
Brimstone II:
60+ km (37+ mi) from fixed wing, 40+ km (25+ mi) from rotor wing[3][N 1]
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IDRW with its warning notice:
http://idrw.org/india-sheds-light-on-ne ... velopment/
Looks like captive flight trials for SANT just reported today.
range 15-20 km.
Radar sensor.
http://idrw.org/india-sheds-light-on-ne ... velopment/
Looks like captive flight trials for SANT just reported today.
range 15-20 km.
Radar sensor.
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MBDA Brimstoneramana wrote:JayS wrote:
Nice to hear something about SANT. Are we planning to put it on our fighters as well..?
JayS,
Nag is barely clearing ground trials. The HELINA is to arm the anti tank helicopters. This SANT is same genre.
Now to ask aircraft to be armed with a helicopter weapon is under kill and puts the aircraft in harms way.
Only anti-tank aircraft weapon I recall is the Maverick by the UASF which has a 125 lb warhead and can take out bridge pylons too.
Brimstone I:
20+ km (12+ mi) from fixed wing, 12 km (7.5 mi) from rotor wing
Brimstone II:
60+ km (37+ mi) from fixed wing, 40+ km (25+ mi) from rotor wing
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Thanks for pointing that outshiv wrote:So much the better for early detection of intruding aircraft. It is still a gravity bomb and not a stand-off weapon.ArjunPandit wrote: saar, isnt CBU 105 be delivered at a greater height?
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So the opposing army will have to look after the logistics requirements of their dummies also. That would be an advantage for us..nam wrote:Ofcourse, remote controlled vehicles/ UGV.shiv wrote:
If the dummies do not move forward with advancing enemy tanks no one will worry about them. Better motorize them
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I have a video of Jaguars dropping BL 755ramana wrote:Shiv, The Jaguars were armed with a British cluster bomb called BL-755 for use against tanks.
I think DRDO tried to copy it and it didn't work. Ved Shenag used to complain of this effort.
Maybe the CBU-105 are replacements for the BL-755.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL755
Note the radar altimeter fuze to ensure dispersal at height rather than suicidal flights like in Desert Storm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0oegPHTyWA
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This is a BRIMSTONE equivalent first reported on BR by me several years back. I had cited a public reference by an IDSA paper for the same.
This likely uses the MMW sensor development for Nag & an extended propulsion + datalink system developed for the HELINA.
This likely uses the MMW sensor development for Nag & an extended propulsion + datalink system developed for the HELINA.
ramana wrote:Shiv, The Jaguars were armed with a British cluster bomb called BL-755 for use against tanks.
I think DRDO tried to copy it and it didn't work. Ved Shenag used to complain of this effort.
Maybe the CBU-105 are replacements for the BL-755.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL755
Note the radar altimeter fuze to ensure dispersal at height rather than suicidal flights like in Desert Storm.
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ramana as per kookal the radar altimeter height setting is dependent on the area required for dispersal. More dispersed targets - greater area - higher altitude setting.ramana wrote:Shiv, The Jaguars were armed with a British cluster bomb called BL-755 for use against tanks.
I think DRDO tried to copy it and it didn't work. Ved Shenag used to complain of this effort.
Maybe the CBU-105 are replacements for the BL-755.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL755
Note the radar altimeter fuze to ensure dispersal at height rather than suicidal flights like in Desert Storm.
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Brimstoneramana wrote:JayS wrote:
Nice to hear something about SANT. Are we planning to put it on our fighters as well..?
JayS,
Nag is barely clearing ground trials. The HELINA is to arm the anti tank helicopters. This SANT is same genre.
Now to ask aircraft to be armed with a helicopter weapon is under kill and puts the aircraft in harms way.
Only anti-tank aircraft weapon I recall is the Maverick by the UASF which has a 125 lb warhead and can take out bridge pylons too.
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It may start as a heli based platform but a precise cheap missile with low cep has many uses. They will end up getting laser guidance eventually and will end up on all platforms including Hawks/htt40 etc...ramana wrote:
JayS,
Nag is barely clearing ground trials. The HELINA is to arm the anti tank helicopters. This SANT is same genre.
Now to ask aircraft to be armed with a helicopter weapon is under kill and puts the aircraft in harms way.
Only anti-tank aircraft weapon I recall is the Maverick by the UASF which has a 125 lb warhead and can take out bridge pylons too.
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has the brimstone which looks impressive in the 3-round rack been used in anger so far?
at 175,000 GPP per round near 300k $$, 2 crore, it is a expensive missile when the Khalid/Zarrar types probably cost that amt each.
to me it seems we should look to adapt (new motor, new seeker) a powered chassis like saaw to this role than run after gori chamri flesh yet again.
we need to evolve a family of chassis x seeker x warhead and derive economy of scale in design, use, manufacture than these bespoke gori chamri weapons again and again which does nothing but provide service manuals and a gora "eggspert" has to fly in to troubleshoot any serious issue
at 175,000 GPP per round near 300k $$, 2 crore, it is a expensive missile when the Khalid/Zarrar types probably cost that amt each.
to me it seems we should look to adapt (new motor, new seeker) a powered chassis like saaw to this role than run after gori chamri flesh yet again.
we need to evolve a family of chassis x seeker x warhead and derive economy of scale in design, use, manufacture than these bespoke gori chamri weapons again and again which does nothing but provide service manuals and a gora "eggspert" has to fly in to troubleshoot any serious issue
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I suppose others have already stated what I would have replied. I had Brimstone in my mind while asking whether we already have a stated plan of integrating ATGM on aircrafts or not.ramana wrote:JayS wrote:
Nice to hear something about SANT. Are we planning to put it on our fighters as well..?
JayS,
Nag is barely clearing ground trials. The HELINA is to arm the anti tank helicopters. This SANT is same genre.
Now to ask aircraft to be armed with a helicopter weapon is under kill and puts the aircraft in harms way.
Only anti-tank aircraft weapon I recall is the Maverick by the UASF which has a 125 lb warhead and can take out bridge pylons too.
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RAF in Libya fired Brimstones.Singha wrote:has the brimstone which looks impressive in the 3-round rack been used in anger so far?
at 175,000 GPP per round near 300k $$, 2 crore, it is a expensive missile when the Khalid/Zarrar types probably cost that amt each.
to me it seems we should look to adapt (new motor, new seeker) a powered chassis like saaw to this role than run after gori chamri flesh yet again.
we need to evolve a family of chassis x seeker x warhead and derive economy of scale in design, use, manufacture than these bespoke gori chamri weapons again and again which does nothing but provide service manuals and a gora "eggspert" has to fly in to troubleshoot any serious issue
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JayS, it seems like India had requested MBDA to explore the possibility of integrating Brimstone on Su-30 platform. Possibly went no where due to obvious reasons. IIRC, there were chirps from DRDO about extending the range of Helina to something akin Brimstone-1 for anti-armour operations from aircraft.
IRDW link does mention that there is a possibility of integrating SANT on fast movers as well.
India sheds light on new Air Launched Anti-Tank Missile Development
IRDW link does mention that there is a possibility of integrating SANT on fast movers as well.
India sheds light on new Air Launched Anti-Tank Missile Development
SANT Missile will have multi-platform launch capability and can be launched from Attack Helicopters, HALE-Class Drones and might also be integrated with Strike aircrafts to provide high-precision guided tactical air-to-ground capabilities to carry out anti-armour roles so that it can be used to take out Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) and Armoured Personnel Vehicles.
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Wishlist: DRDO should make a air launched Nirbhay mini . It is 1.5 tonne, 1100 range at the moment. A 700kg, mini version with 500-600 KM, same engine would be good.
You could load 5-6 of them on SU-30. Launching at height could give some additional range as well. 600KM is the range around where most of the Chini log nodes will be located. The idea is to carry higher numbers.
Being smaller, they can produced in larger numbers, reducing the cost as well.
You could load 5-6 of them on SU-30. Launching at height could give some additional range as well. 600KM is the range around where most of the Chini log nodes will be located. The idea is to carry higher numbers.
Being smaller, they can produced in larger numbers, reducing the cost as well.
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BL-755 was manufactured by OFB and they used to have a product page as well.ramana wrote:Shiv, The Jaguars were armed with a British cluster bomb called BL-755 for use against tanks.
As per this -
http://slideplayer.com/slide/7676422/
IAF uses BL-755, a Spanish one called BME-330 in MiG-21, 23, 27 & Jaguar and Belouga on Mirage 2000
BL-755 used by MiG-27 http://sainiksamachar.nic.in/englisharc ... -08/D5.jpg
BL-755 used by Jaguar https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/pho ... id=1301017
http://images.indianexpress.com/2017/09 ... .jpg?w=759
Belouga used by Mirage 2000 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Galle ... e.jpg.html
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IAF Mirage dropping Belouga - but fake explosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9KmY5I4pQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9KmY5I4pQ
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Saurav Jha - Expect a round of QRSAM trials very soon. This program is weaving its way towards productionization. The pace of all-up testing has increased across the board for @DRDO_India missile development programmes.
https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/943762406500483072
https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/943762406500483072
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I hope this time it is with the ground radar and full C3I set.
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When launched from Fighter from higher altitude, Helina itself will have significant boost in range without mods. I think the main challenge would be guidance. If it can be a reliable LOAL, fire and forget weapon at say 15-20km range, it should be rather easy to put it on fighter without much technological efforts.Zynda wrote:JayS, it seems like India had requested MBDA to explore the possibility of integrating Brimstone on Su-30 platform. Possibly went no where due to obvious reasons. IIRC, there were chirps from DRDO about extending the range of Helina to something akin Brimstone-1 for anti-armour operations from aircraft.
IRDW link does mention that there is a possibility of integrating SANT on fast movers as well.
India sheds light on new Air Launched Anti-Tank Missile Development
SANT Missile will have multi-platform launch capability and can be launched from Attack Helicopters, HALE-Class Drones and might also be integrated with Strike aircrafts to provide high-precision guided tactical air-to-ground capabilities to carry out anti-armour roles so that it can be used to take out Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) and Armoured Personnel Vehicles.
Not sure what kind of sensor SANT has. If its better than NAG/Helina, even better.
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SANT is being launched from Mi-35 and is stated to have higher than HELINA range, so its likely a larger missile and from fast aircraft, its range will increase substantially (just like Brimstone).
The issue is to have an all-weather seeker that can reliably discriminate targets at the range and pick them out of clutter.
I suspect SANT has a MMW seeker originally developed as part of the Nag program.
http://www.news18.com/blogs/india/saura ... 48587.html
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/techno ... 707196.ece
So its been several years since then and I suspect the MMW seeker is fairly mature and is being used for SANT and other programs.
Propulsion experience - HELINA
Datalinks - HELINA/Astra
Compact FOG - Astra
Fusing - Akash/Astra
Tandem warhead - Nag
Trajectory shaping for top attack - Nag
The key thing of interest now is what will Mi-35 use for long range acquisition for launching SANT.
The issue is to have an all-weather seeker that can reliably discriminate targets at the range and pick them out of clutter.
I suspect SANT has a MMW seeker originally developed as part of the Nag program.
http://www.news18.com/blogs/india/saura ... 48587.html
AndSatheesh Reddy: On the RF seeker front, we have quite a few developments taking place. We have developed a millimeter wave (MMW) seeker that is being produced by private industry. This MMW seeker is capable of both lock-on-after-launch(LOAL) and lock-on-before-launch(LOBL) configurations.
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/techno ... 707196.ece
So its been several years since then and I suspect the MMW seeker is fairly mature and is being used for SANT and other programs.
Its all about building blocks:The Hindu
Seeker successfully flight-tested in Nag
Y. Mallikarjun
HYDERABAD, December 12, 2011 02:48 IST
Updated: July 29, 2016 15:25 IST
The mmW seeker was developed by scientists of Research Centre Imarat
In a breakthrough in indigenous seeker technology for missiles, an RF (radio frequency) seeker was successfully flight-tested in anti-tank Nag missile in the Army ranges at Ahmednagar in Rajasthan on Sunday.
While the scientists of the Defence Research and Development Organisation had so far developed Imaging Infra-red (IIR) seeker, this was the first time that a millimetric Wave (mmW) seeker, having all-weather capability, was tried for a 2,000 metre range in a successful mission.
Chief Controller R& D, (Missiles and Strategic Systems), DRDO, Avinash Chander, told The Hindu: “this is a breakthrough for seeker capability in the country.” This would provide solutions for applications in surface-to-air missiles, air-to-air missiles, anti-tank missiles and air-to-surface missiles. It would also provide the technology base for changing to dual-mode seeker in future.
Propulsion experience - HELINA
Datalinks - HELINA/Astra
Compact FOG - Astra
Fusing - Akash/Astra
Tandem warhead - Nag
Trajectory shaping for top attack - Nag
The key thing of interest now is what will Mi-35 use for long range acquisition for launching SANT.
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Great News!!!!
India to seek supply of radars, missiles by 2018
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... XJVfJ.html
By Shishir Gupta, 21 Dec 2017
India is all set to take a big stride in exports of arms and equipment with the defence ministry in the process of tying up with Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Myanmar and Armenia for supply of radars, helicopters and missiles, and tank upgradation by 2018. South Block sources confirmed deepening of military ties with these countries with high-level delegations interacting with defence ministry and Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) units in Bengaluru this month. For the first time, Saudi Arabia is sending 10 of its nationals for training to become officers at the National Defence Academy (NDA) next year.
The proposed tie-ups assume significance as India is the largest importer of arms in the world but figures nowhere in the list of global arms exporters. Government sources confirmed that two joint committee meetings have already taken place with Riyadh as the latter is interested in a joint venture to manufacture weapons and equipment in Saudi Arabia.
It is understood that the UAE has also shown interest in purchasing DRDO-developed Astra 70-kilometer range air- to-air missile for its Mirage fighters. The beyond visual range missile has been successfully tested by the Indian Air Force on its Su-30 MKI fighter jet and will be soon integrated for test firing on its Mirage 2000 jets. While Myanmar wants India to upgrade its T-72 main battle tanks, which the former had purchased from Ukraine, Jordan is interested in buying the Kamov 226 T multi-utility helicopter to be built under India-Russia collaboration. Jordan is also looking at the possibility of buying other hardware manufactured by the DRDO. On its part, Armenia is interested in purchasing DRDO- manufactured radars for battle-field theatre and long-distance artillery ammunition from India.
India to seek supply of radars, missiles by 2018
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... XJVfJ.html
By Shishir Gupta, 21 Dec 2017
India is all set to take a big stride in exports of arms and equipment with the defence ministry in the process of tying up with Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Myanmar and Armenia for supply of radars, helicopters and missiles, and tank upgradation by 2018. South Block sources confirmed deepening of military ties with these countries with high-level delegations interacting with defence ministry and Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) units in Bengaluru this month. For the first time, Saudi Arabia is sending 10 of its nationals for training to become officers at the National Defence Academy (NDA) next year.
The proposed tie-ups assume significance as India is the largest importer of arms in the world but figures nowhere in the list of global arms exporters. Government sources confirmed that two joint committee meetings have already taken place with Riyadh as the latter is interested in a joint venture to manufacture weapons and equipment in Saudi Arabia.
It is understood that the UAE has also shown interest in purchasing DRDO-developed Astra 70-kilometer range air- to-air missile for its Mirage fighters. The beyond visual range missile has been successfully tested by the Indian Air Force on its Su-30 MKI fighter jet and will be soon integrated for test firing on its Mirage 2000 jets. While Myanmar wants India to upgrade its T-72 main battle tanks, which the former had purchased from Ukraine, Jordan is interested in buying the Kamov 226 T multi-utility helicopter to be built under India-Russia collaboration. Jordan is also looking at the possibility of buying other hardware manufactured by the DRDO. On its part, Armenia is interested in purchasing DRDO- manufactured radars for battle-field theatre and long-distance artillery ammunition from India.
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Shisihr Gupta English challenged?
The body of the article says Govt wants to export and he writes seeks supply!
the to is wrongly places.
Headline could say 'India seeks to supply....
The body of the article says Govt wants to export and he writes seeks supply!
the to is wrongly places.
Headline could say 'India seeks to supply....
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tells the kind of crowd goes into journalism or the amount of time/review at their disposal. That said, sir spare his poor english. At least he's not traitor like rajat banditramana wrote:Shisihr Gupta English challenged?
The body of the article says Govt wants to export and he writes seeks supply!
the to is wrongly places.
Headline could say 'India seeks to supply....
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Exactly.Karan M wrote:
Its all about building blocks:.
How far typically a Fighter radar can see in A2G mode, for good enough quality for giving initial guidance for ATGMs..?Karan M wrote: The key thing of interest now is what will Mi-35 use for long range acquisition for launching SANT.
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It all depends on how big the radar is, the power output, the quality of the antenna (gain), the signal processing.
Bars sanitized figures for range against ground targets:
The EL/M-2032 will be better than Bars here, but its range is likely substantially lower as well (Jaguar sized nose/power output for instance).
Bars sanitized figures for range against ground targets:
But note, to attack point targets you need proper resolution against ground targets as well. The Bars resolution is anywhere between 5 to 10 meters, or even 20. Not really great for small point targets. 10 mtrs is ok for say tanks and the like. But if you are talking small vehicles probably not. Ideally you'd like great resolution to avoid wasting missiles and picking out targets which can be fed into the weapons system.Air to Surface mode:
Range of detection:
- railway bridge: 80. 120 km .;
- a group of tanks: 40..50 km;
- Destroyer: 80. 120 km;
- aircraft carrier: 250 km.
The EL/M-2032 will be better than Bars here, but its range is likely substantially lower as well (Jaguar sized nose/power output for instance).
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Hemant Rout - #BREAKING: India successfully test fires next-generation Quick Reaction Surface-to-Air Missile (QRSAM) from a defence base off #Odisha coast. The homegrown canister-based high-speed #missile can deceive enemy radars making it difficult to be detected. @NewIndianXpress
https://twitter.com/Hemant_TNIE/status/ ... 7066341376
https://twitter.com/Hemant_TNIE/status/ ... 7066341376
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this entire xRSAM(x=Q, L, M) has become so confusing nowadays