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None of the Army welfare trust entities (factories, farms etc) pay any taxes. None of the large "agriculturalists" pay any taxes.

It is the common abduls, traders and salaried folk that are paying taxes in Pakistan.

Time for them to rise up and do a french revolution equivalent.
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https://twitter.com/HariRam42245512/sta ... PKROjM5I6w ---->

Q. If you sit in front with the driver on a jatka gadi and the horse farts, what sound do you hear?

A. Musharrraffff
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NAVDEX 2023: Fincantieri offering S800 small submarine to Pakistan
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/nava ... -pakistan/
24 Feb 2023

Fincantieri unveils S800 coastal and shallow water submarine
https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/na ... submarine/
24 Feb 2023
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Not surprising :lol:

Riches to riches: Pak economic crisis will not hit its Army generals
https://sundayguardianlive.com/world/ri ... y-generals
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https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/03/0 ... i-killers/

pakistan has received latest block-3 jf-17 from china which features the chinese ws-13 engine.
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While India's UAV Programme Falters, Pakistan Air Force Inducts Yet Another Turkish Drone
https://swarajyamag.com/defence/while-i ... kish-drone
03 April 2023
This acquisition is in line with the PAF's ongoing efforts to modernize its arsenal and maintain its edge in the region.
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Is this some clever marketing to make sure the Reaper orders pass through before the Rustom 2 orders come through? I don't Ukraine will be in a position to supply Engines to the Akinci Drones for some years to come.
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One fallout of Russia Ukraine war is that Ukraine will be more aligned with India's enemies than before.
Are we getting rid of any dependencies on Ukraine? And will a prosperous Ukraine in future become headache to India?
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hemant_sai wrote:One fallout of Russia Ukraine war is that Ukraine will be more aligned with India's enemies than before.
Are we getting rid of any dependencies on Ukraine? And will a prosperous Ukraine in future become headache to India?
Ukrainian women follow the $.

Indian men have a homing beacon on their backs.

Only headache I can think of.
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hemant_sai wrote:One fallout of Russia Ukraine war is that Ukraine will be more aligned with India's enemies than before.
Are we getting rid of any dependencies on Ukraine? And will a prosperous Ukraine in future become headache to India?
Wont make much difference. They have been suppling MBT's and other arms to Porkis. It is not as if they are going to give anything free or on special terms to them in the future.
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If you must learn to beg, then learn how to beg from a Pakistani....

Get ready for additional F-16 deliveries to the PAF. That is coming.

Pakistan has walked dangerously deep into Chinese grip. Wake up, West
https://theprint.in/opinion/pakistan-ha ... t/1495374/
04 April 2023
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Rakesh wrote:If you must learn to beg, then learn how to beg from a Pakistani....
..
https://theprint.in/opinion/pakistan-ha ... t/1495374/
04 April 2023
Sir, are you referring to the journo who has written the article or the owner of the outlet which has published it... or both?

Madam seems to have smoked some of the finest before typing the following words...
Lalwani’s paper doesn’t mention how Pakistan helped China over years in military technological terms. For instance, the role played by the PAF in fine-tuning the design of the JF-17 Thunder, which is a co-development and co-production project. Pakistan could help because of its knowledge of both Chinese and the better-quality western technology that also meant a better sense of quality control and standardisation than what the Chinese originally had.
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Uniformed Terrorists IED special
Starts off with the usual Hindu hatred but we get to see one of their caves, really Spice(y) targets.
8)
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MeshaVishwas wrote:Uniformed Terrorists IED special
Starts off with the usual Hindu hatred but we get to see one of their caves, really Spice(y) targets.
8)
These soldiers look spaced out, unmotivated, and give me the vibe of "just here to collect salary". Markedly different from IA/BSF boys we see.
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For anyone interested here is the POF product catalogue:
https://depo.gov.pk/download/catalogue/public/POF.pdf
Interesting that they make a sasta version of the 3BM-42 with more weight and similar "claimed" performances.
This is their best FSAPDS.
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Jay wrote:
MeshaVishwas wrote:Uniformed Terrorists IED special
Starts off with the usual Hindu hatred but we get to see one of their caves, really Spice(y) targets.
8)
These soldiers look spaced out, unmotivated, and give me the vibe of "just here to collect salary". Markedly different from IA/BSF boys we see.
As per paki news reports, Bajwa hinted to the media that their military has been low on fuel and other supplies for some time now.

These lower rank guys might be getting rotis and rations (for now) but their families most likely are finding the going very tough.

It will likely have caused a negative effect on the morale (they have been devoid of morals anyway)
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Welcoming new ISPR DG(Diarrhoea Ghazi), Ch***** Achmed Sharif to his first presser:
Started off real bad by saying to Quam e Ghaleez: "Sleep tight, Fizzleya is also doing the same"
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Manish_P wrote:
Jay wrote:
These soldiers look spaced out, unmotivated, and give me the vibe of "just here to collect salary". Markedly different from IA/BSF boys we see.
As per paki news reports, Bajwa hinted to the media that their military has been low on fuel and other supplies for some time now.

These lower rank guys might be getting rotis and rations (for now) but their families most likely are finding the going very tough.

It will likely have caused a negative effect on the morale (they have been devoid of morals anyway)
It doesn't matter. Nuclear weapons, especially the hidden ones, will ensure that this military institution remains in power for a while. There is also the knowhow and expertise which can leak. It has a strategic location and is being sought after by SCO and Western alliance. Food, $, etc. Will all be taken care of by international community just like Ukraine.
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"While the JF-17’s engine comes from Russia and other major components like the radar are from China, most of the actual manufacture assembly of the fighter jet takes place in Kamra in Pakistan,” he said. “In terms of cost, Pakistan accounts for 10 to 40 per cent of the JF-17.
-Wing Commander Naseem Ahmed

Pakis barely make 10% of the Bandar by cost.
:lol:
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That is one expensive paint job.
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The Pakis are floating the khayali pulao.. sorry make that biryani that the Thunder might be in line for the Argentina deal.

One beggar trying to sell to another beggar a weapon made by the enemy of the donor, using the money given by the donor.

Wonder what the IMF (US) will think about it...

Do I hear the sound of Thunder in Argentina?
(they better concern themselves with the pindi channa explosions which might soon to start all over bakistan)
A country from South America with many parallels to ours – some superficial and some tragic :rotfl: – has expressed interest in the jets for perhaps the same reasons that led Pakistan to develop them.

Cash-strapped, embargo stricken Argentina is the latest country to express a desire to purchase the JF-17 fighter. If the sale goes through, it could perhaps become the most significant operator of the type outside of Pakistan.

Speaking to The Express Tribune, Air Commodore (retd) Jamal Hussein said that one of the biggest selling points for the JF-17 is that is around 50 per cent cheaper to buy and operate than any other fighter aircraft that offers similar capability. “The unit cost of the latest Block 3 version of the JF-17 is only around $50 million, and this version comes with an AESA radar,” he pointed out.

He said that on paper, :mrgreen: for instance the PL-15 missile that the JF-17 Block 3 can be armed with has a much longer range than the US-made AMRAAM and French MICA missiles. The latter is what the India’s newly acquired Rafale fighters are armed with.

“For an offensive operation, the JF-17 is not ideal. But if you’re looking for the air defence factor and are short on cash, the JF-17 is the best buy,” he observed. “For air combat, the JF-17 is more than capable and as an air defence fighter, it would suit an air force like Argentina’s perfectly. The only problem I foresee with this acquisition is how much influence the US can bring to bear.”
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Nice "side by side" of a PLAN 054A FFG (in front) and the export variant for Pakistan, showing some equipment differences. Most obviously Type 382 radar with PLAN & SR2410C with PN, but also notably no VDS on Pakistan Navy hull. Via "Fulcum007"/SDF.
Source: here
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Big handicap.
Commies have them on their Type 054s(Later ones) though.
Good read on that here
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PAF seeks ‘record of gun owners’ within 5km radius of Nur Khan base in Rawalpindi - Yawn
RAWALPINDI: The Noor Khan Airbase authorities have asked the local police and the commissioner to “maintain and share the data” of individuals possessing weapons within a five kilometres radius of the base for the purpose of ‘record keeping’.

The request of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) came in light of aerial firing around the base, recovery of more than 450 bullets besides chemical thread, and damage to a cabin’s windscreen by stray bullets in Feb this year.
:rotfl:

Since the incident happened on February 24, the base authorities have asked the commissioner, the regional police officer (RPO), and the city police officer (CPO) a number of times to enhance security arrangements to curb aerial firing and impose Section 144 in the area to stop the menace.

According to sources, the PAF base authorities asked the local police to maintain and share the data of all those people possessing weapons in a five-kilometre radius for “record-keeping”.
According to sources, a similar request to the divisional commissioner and police had been made about two weeks before the Feb 24 incident. Still, the authorities were unable to keep a check on the firing in the vicinity of the airbase, particularly Fazal Town, Khurram Colony, Muslim Town, Dhoke Gangal, Dhoke Lalyal, Chah Sultan, Dhoke Khabba, Dhoke Elahi Buksh, and Dhoke Farman Ali.

This type of firing has disturbed flight operations; recently two stray bullets hit the windscreen of a service mechanical transport signal cabin at the airbase.

The PAF authorities, while terming these instances worrying, claimed that such practices pose a severe threat to the lives of staffers, working round the clock to maintain service aircraft, in addition to endangering the safety of national assets.

The authorities also requested the district administration and police to curb this tendency through various search operations around the airfield to avoid any untoward incident and impose Section 144 in the entire area in the vicinity of the base. They also asked the police to conduct search operations in Shaheen Town, Sadiqabad, Asghar Mall Scheme, Affandi Colony and Dhoke Khabba on a priority basis.
The Nur Khan Base authorities have been asking the district administration and police from time to time to conduct search operations in the base’s surroundings to check aerial firing but a crackdown in this regard is still awaited.
AK misphyrr :rotfl:
I hope the aircraft that got halaled was the new second hand C-130 example from Belgianistan
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https://twitter.com/defence_insider/sta ... 45792?s=20 ---> China has started production of the CHD620 Marine Diesel Engines for Pakistan Navy's Type 039B (HANGOR) Class SSKs, which are currently under construction at both Wuchang & Karachi Shipyards. This confirms the earlier rumors of Pakistan accepting Chinese-made engines.

https://twitter.com/defence_insider/sta ... 93376?s=20 ---> The decision to use the Chinese-made CHD620 engine was taken last year by the Pakistan Navy after evaluating the engine's efficiency, safety and capabilities for submarine operations. The engine is a modified version of the CHD620 used on surface ships & incorporates noise-dampening.

https://twitter.com/defence_insider/sta ... 60292?s=20 ---> The Pakistan Navy has a total of eight Type 039B Class submarines on order from China, with the first one due for delivery in Q1 of next year. The PN already has a PLAN Type 039B submarine on lease for crew training and familiarity with the onboard subsystems.

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Pakistan Air Force crisis: 250 fighter jet to retire; seeks Chinese jets.

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is facing a crisis as it needs to retire its ageing fleet of aircraft in a decade. According to a report, PAF will phase out its 250 aircraft.

The PAF is finally phasing out its oldest fighter jet French-built Mirage III. Another fleet of Mirage 5 is also under the retirement plan.

However, the only viable option for Pakistan is the Chinese- built next-generation aircraft like J-10C.

Under the modernization plan, PAF has already purchased 22 J-10 CE fighter jets. In fact, according to the deal, PAF may acquire another 100 jets with specific enhancements.

The J-10C is a four-plus generation medium-sized fighter jet. The J-10C holds an upgraded jet engine than the China-Pakistan jointly developed lightweight fighter jet, the JF-17, currently being used by the PAF

While JC-10 comes with a fully integrated weapon, avionic and combat system, it lacks a bigger active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar than the one used by the JF-17 Block 3. :mrgreen:

However, it can carry more advanced, air-to-air missiles including the short-range PL-10 and the beyond-visual-range PL-15.

The bulk purchase from China is also about the financing which Pakistan can leverage amid its economic turmoil.

The financial compulsion — cheaper loans from China—is the key factor for Pakistan’s modernization budget.

Besides, its existing fleet of US-built F-16s also demands overall upgradation and overhauling.

Reports suggest that Pakistan is also looking for KJ-500 early warning aircraft and Y-8 electronic warfare aircraft.
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What's with navies having camo pattern uniforms?

Then they compound the offence by having high vis life vest.

Navies with such dresses should man up and give up on high vis life vest. If the objective is to make sure that sailors cannot be seen.

That will make sure that a sailor, if, overboard cannot be rescued. :mrgreen:
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The first tweet below has a poll, which I cannot reproduce on the forum. But read the response (second tweet below) :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/AirOpsSyndicate/sta ... 83555?s=20 ---> Various Air Forces around the world have integrated Land Bases Missile systems as a part of their OCA efforts. IAF also reportedly has Prithvi and Brahmos in its arsenal. Should PAF also induct missile systems like Fatah-1 and Ghaznavi BM to use against IAF targets?

https://twitter.com/KamranM98804699/sta ... 75650?s=20 ---> Given how unprofessional army is, they can't be trusted for defence. Let them just focus on making naked videos of women and real estate, their 2 main loves.
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What stupidity is this, any one will try and get whatever capability, the question will China provide it? Pakis can neither develop anything nor buy anything. In economics demand means Desire plus the ability to buy. Pakis lack 1 key element.
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After India-US pact for 31 Predator drones, Pakistan runs to china for uAV and weapons.

In light of India signing a pact with the US for acquisition of 31 top-notch weaponised Predator drones, which the defence forces intend to deploy along border areas, Pakistani authorities are scrambling to acquire a similar weapons system.

According to a Times Now report citing sources, Pakistan has inevitably turned to China to buy more Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) and weapons.
India to kick off acquisition process for 31 armed drones from US in early July.

Pakistan currently operates 3 Chinese-made Cai Hong-4 drones -- unmanned aerial vehicles designed for reconnaissance, patrol, observation, and special operations. Cash-strapped Pakistan is looking to acquire 4 more such UAVs.

The CH-4 is similar to the US-made Predator drone but is known for its frequent 'technical snags'. :mrgreen:

Significantly, the report said that Pakistan has also asked China for 8 AR-1 missiles that can fit the CH-4. The missile deal is estimated to be worth $1.7 million. The AR-1 has a maximum range of about 10km and can be launched from high altitudes. Experts say the AR-1 is similar to the American Hellfire air-to-ground missile.(With pakistani jazbaa it will be far superior :lol: )

Predator drones far superior
The “hunter-killer” MQ-9B Reaper or Predator-B drones, are designed to fly for around 40 hours at altitudes over 40,000-feet for surveillance missions and are armed with Hellfire air-to-ground missiles and smart bombs for precision strikes. They are far superior to China’s existing armed drones.

The deal for the 31 drones -- 15 Sea Guardians for Navy and eight Sky Guardians each for Army and IAF with their associated mobile ground control systems, weapons and other equipment -- is estimated to be worth around $3.5 billion. The official letter of request for the drones will be sent to the US government in the first week of July.

With nine 'hard points’ to carry missiles and smart bombs, the drones will bolster India’s long-range over-the-horizon ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) and strike capabilities both in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) as well as the land frontiers with China and Pakistan.

The plan is to deploy the drones at three tri-Service ISR command and control centres in the northwest, northeast and south India.
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Aditya_V wrote:What stupidity is this, any one will try and get whatever capability, the question will China provide it? Pakis can neither develop anything nor buy anything. In economics demand means Desire plus the ability to buy. Pakis lack 1 key element.
Sir, this is pakistan being talked about. They follow pakonomics which has aid and loans as the key elements. The chinese will offer a very high interest loan to purchase the items. Probably land could be the collateral.
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Pakistani land is useful to foreign powers only if it is emptied out by removing Pakistanis first and the said foreign power can control such land.
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Aditya_V wrote:Pakistani land is useful to foreign powers only if it is emptied out by removing Pakistanis first and the said foreign power can control such land.
the cheeni plan to colonize a wide swathe of land on either side of the CPEC corridor, all along its entire length in pukestan ending at gwadar.

the cheen are serious about bypassing the malacca straits trap

They hope to control the corridor security, ensure jobs for their cheeni princelings, and also farm the area to grow their food.

the pakis are not even bit players in machiavellian scheme
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chetak wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Pakistani land is useful to foreign powers only if it is emptied out by removing Pakistanis first and the said foreign power can control such land.
the cheeni plan to colonize a wide swathe of land on either side of the CPEC corridor, all along its entire length in pukestan ending at gwadar.

They hope to control the corridor security, ensure jobs for their cheeni princelings, and also farm the area to grow their food.

the pakis are not even bit players in machiavellian scheme
Not at all god for India
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Kersi wrote:
chetak wrote:
the cheeni plan to colonize a wide swathe of land on either side of the CPEC corridor, all along its entire length in pukestan ending at gwadar.

They hope to control the corridor security, ensure jobs for their cheeni princelings, and also farm the area to grow their food.

the pakis are not even bit players in machiavellian scheme
Not at all god for India
Kersi ji,

Its one of the ways for the cheen to counter the Indian build naval up in the A&N islands.

The blockading of the malacca straits has been a historical fear of the cheen and has been engaging their strategic thinkers incessantly

It's why they are entrenched in bangaladesh, and also in hambanthota

They have plans to interdict the chicken neck via the buildup in BD

remember, their original CPEC plans included kolkata.

they are serious about bypassing the malacca straits trap, but whether their solutions are really workable is a matter of discussion
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No posts about the Pak acquiring Chinese self propelled howitzers?
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Did TSP procure new sets?

https://theprint.in/defence/pakistans-l ... er/156671/

01 December, 2018 10:27 am
The SH-15 appeared this week at a defence expo in Karachi. Pakistan is learnt to have ordered more than 50, enough for three artillery regiments.
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^^^ To stop Indian Army IBG thrusts into Pakistan.
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