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stephen wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:jokes aside MOD accepted that this was indeed our missile..quite freakish..or something else
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Now the question is which missile was this and what are the secrets that the pakis can glean from the wreckage. As, according to the Pakis, this was unarmed, means that the chances of it getting destroyed is much less than it would have been if it was armed with explosives. Better hope it was just a run of the mill prithvi, not the PAD or the Brahmos.
1. range and speed clearly indicate brahmos
2. The right turn seems unusual
3. It still takes time to reverse engineer such tech. It wont be easy. That means goi might think that they have that much time
4. It is interesting why autodestruct feature was not used...
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You cant reverse engineer anything from those debris, can we manufacture P-8 aircraft just because we have them in service?
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There is more to this story than "accidental firing". Hope some one finds out what is that place, where the "wall" was hit.

On SM some posted the air traffic details using the missile path provided by Pak. Interestingly it seems to have followed the air zone which is controlled by Bhatinda airbase. No civilian aircrafts fly in the zone!

Are missile pre-loaded with target coordinates during peace time? Obviously not. Someone has to load the waypoints and target cordinates. :roll:

India would have informed Pak right away, if there was an actual launch. Paks had no clue about the missile for an entire day! :rotfl:

Even more bizzare is initial Indian response. The news reported that India is checking Pak's claims! Why would GoI say that if it knew about the "accidental launch"
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Maybe some drill going wrong? May be the firing sequence is started and taken to T-1 steps before keys turned off(figuratively) and this time the sequence followed till T-0? May be new team under training making mistake?
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Training drills are not done on Live systems. For the exact same reason what happened...
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Curiously the renegade missile decided to fall in a town where hafiz saed has a property..

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It's all a very chankian move by that clever yindoo baniya Modi to 1) win elections 2) make the pak fauj look nanga 3) apologize and make Im- the- dim seem strong so that he survives the no-confidence motion.. thus in the long term to hasten the demise of Bakistan.
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This all seems too fishy for just to be an "accident". Maybe it is, but preceding this, we cancelled going to military exercises and defense shows, Pakis did not know for a long time what happened and there were reports from Pakis saying they lost a private plane but pilot "ejected"(how), that it was a drone, and much much later, GOI comes out and says, "sorry-just a typo here, carry on!"

Looks like some shit definitely went down.
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Am I the only one who is seeing a link between the fact that Zahoor Mistry, one of the five terrorists who hijacked Indian Airlines plane IC-814 in 1999, was killed in Pakistan 3 days back and then this accidental firing?
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IAF was asked to suddenly cancel firepower show as well...
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Since the warhead was not there, shouldn't the range be more than 300KM's?
From the rough estimation based on the picture posted by bakis, the total distance the missile traveled ~300KM.

My guess is that instead of warhead, we must have added some sensors to detect the response of bakis and the sensors were communicating whatever they found back to the people managing the whole thing.
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rajsunder wrote: My guess is that instead of warhead, we must have added some sensors to detect the response of bakis and the sensors were communicating whatever they found back to the people managing the whole thing.
If it's a Brahmos like weapon and the target is a single building, there is no need for a warhead, just the kinetic velocity is enough to neutralize it. No need for a warhead and accumulate collateral damage. *Just my thoughts*
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Well maybe know if it was a mistake or might have been something more based on whether the CoI releases names and action taken against the officers involved.
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March 5: J10CP arrives in Pakistan.
March 5: IN fires 'advanced' Brahmos from INS Chennai onto uninhabi. Mar 6 has pictures circulating on Sh1tter (tm BRF) that show missile landing almost on top of flag.
March 9: Supposedly a supersonic object was tracked at 6:43 pm and fell on location in Mian Channu at 6:50 pm.
March 10: DG-ISPR news conference in evening around 9 pm announcing Mar 9 incident.
March 11: PIB Brief by MOD posted at 6:33 pm mentions the "accidental firing." Also mentions "it is a matter of relief that there has been no loss of life due to the accident." :twisted:

My layman take - It would have to be an hvt for such a high profile hit. Levinaji and Asli Baba have some interesting points. One picture shows quite a few structures taken down - reduced size warhead? Wonder if Hafazz Saeed is seen after this. Some genuine questions come to mind. Was Masood Azzhar ever seen after Balakot or subsequent gas cylinder burst at clinic? Though I read that it was his brother Yusuf who was the hvt among the other bakras. Also, would this be first instance of big stick/CM used as intended by the forces? Was that a J10C drop tank fallen on a house in Pak?

Anyway, enough CT's, back to lurking. Hope the investigation by GOI can shed some light. :wink:
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Why this BS about "no warhead" ? ..

Listen to dialogue on this YT video .. eyewitness comments ..

Massive Blast ..
5-7 houses totally flattened ..

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxe5MATe ... e=emb_logo

Bajwa's legs must be automatically doing MJ style break-dancing ?
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Leonard wrote:Why this BS about "no warhead" ? ..
The system in question can sink a guided missile frigate built with warship grade steel with just KE
The BrahMos' 3,000 km per hour speed - literally faster than a bullet - means it hits the target with a huge amount of kinetic energy. In tests, the BrahMos has often cut warships in half and reduced ground targets to smithereens
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:rotfl:
Aditya_V wrote:I think this Pakistani channel is giving it away what crashed at Mian Channu, a J10C probably from sortie from PAF Rafiqui.



Eyewitness clearly stating "Janghe Jahaz" crashed



Pic at the beginning of the video

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rajsunder wrote:Since the warhead was not there, shouldn't the range be more than 300KM's?
From the rough estimation based on the picture posted by bakis, the total distance the missile traveled ~300KM.

My guess is that instead of warhead, we must have added some sensors to detect the response of bakis and the sensors were communicating whatever they found back to the people managing the whole thing.
Err it was heading straight to PAF Rafiqui, I suspect we crashed it into empty land in Mian Channu before it went for something important at PAF Rafiqui, there was fuel burning in the wreakage.
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Ganesh_S wrote::rotfl:
Aditya_V wrote:I think this Pakistani channel is giving it away what crashed at Mian Channu, a J10C probably from sortie from PAF Rafiqui.

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Yes I was wrong, but Pakis were equally confused for thee first 12 hours until I think we communicated with them.
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On a lighter note, the memes post the event are absolutely hilarious
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https://twitter.com/Maheshwariboi/statu ... CL94qzWG3g
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I have finally figured out what it was.

A non state, state missile.

Out of control of Indian state. Indian is as much a victim of non state, state actors as Pakistan.

Indian economy has suffered a loss a gazallion trillion dollars as a result of this. Pakistan in the spirit of brotherhood should compensate.
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Reports: Pakistan's top AD commander has been sacked after Pakistan failed to intercept an Indian missile that landed 124 km inside Pakistan in #MianChannu.

02 PAF air marshals ( including the vice chief of AF) have been asked to put in their papers for voluntary retirement.
-Col Danvir Chauhan

It is Al Bak so nothing in Black and white, but greys can reveal quite a bit
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https://twitter.com/Islaamabad/status/1 ... 4052344832
#BREAKING: Aircraft crash reportedly in #MianChannu, Khanewal of #Pakistan’s Punjab. Eye witnesses say it is a Pakistan Air Force Jet. Official word and details are still awaited. #PAF
Check the video

https://twitter.com/JayanthaVel/status/ ... 7910810624
Janaki Singh @JayanthaVel @bennedose
According to witness on site, a fighter aircraft was seen dropping the missiles. Also lots of Ambulances in the area, so casualties as well.
https://twitter.com/JayanthaVel/status/ ... 7910810624
shiv @bennedose
Someone explain this: India did the "erroneous" launch 2 days ago. Pak.announced Drone crash 2 days ago. Today Pak said it was Brahmos. Then India announced error. Why? I say it was hvt strike
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Indian admission of Brahmos cock up does not say "No warhead". Eyewitness accounts and images suggest that there was a huge explosion, not just hole in ground. But Pak says no warhead. What gives? Besides does India store Brahmos in launchable state without warhead?
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Shared some thoughts on the recent landing of the Brahmos in Mian Channu.

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Folks, sharing some thoughts on the recent trip of a not so distant cousin of Shri Brahmos Ji to the Land of the Pure.

So once upon a time, there lived near a small, nondescript town, a young lad who aspired to run .. run as fast as he could .. run beyond the speed of sound .. and run straight into the lands of the impure ones not very far away in order to fulfill his destiny.

A thorough team player, he would never complete a sentence without referring to his Bros. So let’s call him Mah,Bros for the sake of this story, so as to not let out his true identity!

So Shri Mah’Bros Ji trained hard during his growing up years, and by the time he became a teen, he could actually run really fast. But the way his brains were programmed, meant that his elders kept him on a tight leash, lest he go and run amok!

But they did take good care to keep him well exercised so that whenever needed, he could actually run into the lands of the impure and do whatever was expected of him.

All was fine and dandy, till one day when he suddenly found his tethers loosened!

He couldn’t believe his luck and decided to make a go for it!!

And before anyone could yell ‘Oye Pakad Usko’, our guy Mah’Bros had already gotten a headstart!!

Oh he ran .. and how! Soon he was at nearly 40,000 feet above sea level where atmospheric resistance was minimal and the inevitable happened – a BOOM!

After the initial ‘shock’, he suddenly remembered a Class IX Physics lesson about speed of sound and some such useless stuff .. and realized he’d made a personal speed record!

Meanwhile down in Sirsa, people could only stare at the mooli parantha vapours he had left in his wake!
It was a moment before he realised that he had actually crossed the borders and was flying over the lands of the impure. ‘Otteri .. mera Passport!!’, he thought as he ‘strayed’ across the borders. But then with all that fire behind his backside, he could not help but keep moving!

Mah’Bros couldn’t help but curse Shri Newton Ji who had come up with his third law, which was now propelling him faster and faster towards .. err .. Mian Channu, as he checked out on his google maps!
On the ground however, things were .. well .. flat!

The headless chickens had started running around and soon photos of his mortal remains were running amok on social media, though not as fast as he had run!

‘It’s a Bird .. No, It’s a Plane .. No, It’s Shri Superman Ji,’people cried variously!

Finally, the Brown Panted Ones made an appearance & took over the area!

Soon, an initial consensus formed that it was a bit too metallic to be a bird or Shri Superman Ji. So it was a plane!
For the next 48 hours, the Brown Panted Ones kept a studied silence, especially since the loss of hundreds of their ‘Otherwise Panted’ comrades of Balakot and the two unfortunate pilots a day later was still fresh in their minds!

They tried their BESTEST to clean up the supposed cold-storage facility even as their higher ups STILL ran around in circles, seeking an explanation. Finally, a call was taken and they decided to do an ‘URGENT‘ press conference, about 48hrs after Sh Mah’Bros had embraced Virgati!
‘YES!! We had tracked him!!!’, the Propagandu-in-Chief crowed .. apparently in the memory of the crows that his predecessor had killed on the day of the Balakot strike!

‘YES, India will explain’, he thundered with clenched fists and an involuntarily clenched butt!!
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^^Superb thread Saar.

I think I see a message to the uniformed Jehadis.
Modiji has said "Ghar mein ghus ke maarenge"
First it was just POJK in 2016 as a response
Second it was a Tribal area inside the land of pure terror in 2019 as a pre emptive strike+response
Third a "Vajra" into the heart of PakJab in 2022
I think this may have just averted a big terror attack in India.
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Did we use s400 to target a paki fighter plane ?? The tail section can be of anyone of the missile used in the system
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Baki missile test fails, again?



‘Missile test’ by Pakistan fails
Islamabad [Pakistan], March 17 (ANI): An unidentified object was noticed by residents of Jamshoro, Sindh, in Pakistan at around 12 noon on Thursday. The object resembled a rocket or missile that looked clearly giving mid-way through its projectile.
The object is a missile, fired by Pakistan from its test range at Sindh, according to information gathered from social media and the test was scheduled at 11 am which was postponed by an hour owing to a fault in the TEL (Transporter Erector Launcher). It was finally conducted at 12 noon.
However, seconds after the launch the missile was seen descending from the path, clearly falling short of its desired projectile and landing near Thana Bula Khan in Sindh.
According to social media accounts in Pakistan, the local administration, however, refuted any such claim saying that it was a regular Mortar Tracer Round that was fired from the nearby range.
Yeah right! A mortar tracer would look exactly like that.

https://theprint.in/world/missile-test- ... ls/878270/
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Leave it to the Pakistanis to copy a failed missile launch, then have it land in within Pakistan!
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Mort Walker wrote:Leave it to the Pakistanis to copy a failed missile launch, then have it land in within Pakistan!
These chutiayas are so predictable. Hindu's launch a mijjile at us and call it an accident...we too will launch a mijjile at us and inshallah it will be an legitimate accident :rotfl:
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Jay wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:Leave it to the Pakistanis to copy a failed missile launch, then have it land in within Pakistan!
These chutiayas are so predictable. Hindu's launch a mijjile at us and call it an accident...we too will launch a mijjile at us and inshallah it will be an legitimate accident :rotfl:
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My sources also tell me that China and Pakistan successfully hijacked spice missiles from a bunch of Mirage-2000s and made them land at Balakot

Pindigenously educated engineers and scientists were waiting in a training institute/workshop below. The missile landed on the workshop and then the people there conducted several experiments, like measuring explosive power, penetration capability etc.

Several trucks and vans were seen leaving the training institute with missile parts, performance data etc.

This time around, they could not hijack crystal maze because of weather conditions.
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Definitely an ammo dump. Looks like enough ammo for a couple of divisions.

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Pakistan air force plane crashes in NW, killing 2 pilots
A Pakistani air force plane crashed during a routine training mission in an open area near the northwestern city of Peshawar, killing the pilot and co-pilot, the air force said Tuesday.
the air force said no damage was caused on the ground :roll:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/pa ... story.html

Pakistan Air Force trainee plane crashes in Peshawar

https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/ ... 322185008/
Unconfirmed reports suggested that the training aircraft that crashed was a PAF MFI-17 Super Mushak trainer.
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Having camera pointed at the sky is paying off well in Pakistan these days
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