Iran’s Revolutionary Guards tested the country’s first ever long-range missile defence system early this week, local media reports.
Work on the new Bavar 373 system is underway and is expected to be fully functional by March 2018, Farzad Esmaili, head of the Revolutionary Guards’ air defences, told IRIB in an interview on Sunday.
The Bavar 373 was created after construction on the S-300 was brought to a halt. It is designed to intercept long range, or ballistic weaponry.
“The system is made completely in Iran and some of its parts are different from the S-300. All of its sub-systems have been completed and its missile tests have been conducted,” Esmaili said.
The Bavar-373 is a long-range mobile air defense system which was unveiled in August 2016. It is similar to the Russian S-300 and is capable of hitting targets at a high altitude. The new system uses a phased array radar like Russian 96L6 radar for tracking aerodynamic targets and ballistic missiles in medium to long ranges, mounted on the ZAFAR heavy truck.
Iran Military, Technology, Arms, Tactics
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Iran Tests First Long-Range Missile Defence System ‘Bavar-373’
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IRAN test-fired the first Land Attack Cruise Missile called SUMAR
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Uzi Rubin analysis and opinion on Iran Long-Range "Soumar" Land attack cruise missile
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Taken at face value, a S-300 equivalent, functioning cruise missile and the IRBMs are pretty impressive for a muzzie nation under pretty intense Western embargo. Not as impressive as the 140KT thermonuclear bomb in NoKo but more breadth.
I would imagine a lot of their systems are simply Russian or chini or composed of Russian and chini parts. But still high marks for effort.
I would imagine a lot of their systems are simply Russian or chini or composed of Russian and chini parts. But still high marks for effort.
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Iran is 2nd only to China is the Art and Science of reverse engineering they have reverse engineered Russian BUk Missile , French Crotale and US Hawk system and many other systems.chola wrote:Taken at face value, a S-300 equivalent, functioning cruise missile and the IRBMs are pretty impressive for a muzzie nation under pretty intense Western embargo. Not as impressive as the 140KT thermonuclear bomb in NoKo but more breadth.
I would imagine a lot of their systems are simply Russian or chini or composed of Russian and chini parts. But still high marks for effort.
A lot of their system are also indiginous one specially their BM program , years of sanctions have let them develop indginous technology and MIC much like it helped ISRO do that for space.
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Iran Hawk SAM Copy Mersad Missile
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Raad Anti Aircraft Missile BUK-M1 copy
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French Crotale SAM look alike Herz 9 Anti Aircraft Missile
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Yes, RE'ing the western systems like Crotale and Hawk is impressive since they are embargoed. High marks for keeping the F-14 flying after all these years.Austin wrote:Iran is 2nd only to China is the Art and Science of reverse engineering they have reverse engineered Russian BUk Missile , French Crotale and US Hawk system and many other systems.chola wrote:Taken at face value, a S-300 equivalent, functioning cruise missile and the IRBMs are pretty impressive for a muzzie nation under pretty intense Western embargo. Not as impressive as the 140KT thermonuclear bomb in NoKo but more breadth.
I would imagine a lot of their systems are simply Russian or chini or composed of Russian and chini parts. But still high marks for effort.
A lot of their system are also indiginous one specially their BM program , years of sanctions have let them develop indginous technology and MIC much like it helped ISRO do that for space.
They are also rebuilding airframes in their old F-5 fleet under the Saequeh program with Iranian subsystems (including possible local J-85 engine clones called OWJ.) The project is surrounded by overwrought hyperbole but still a good effort at indigenizing some aircraft manufacturing especially if the J-85 turbojet RE is true and they are not just cannibalizing the last working J-85s from the original fleet.
And fully agree with the ISRO analogy! No way to import means it is indigenous or nothing. A good lesson there.
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Iran Unveils New Multiple Warhead Ballistic Missile
Khorramshahr ballistic missile has a range of 2,000 kilometers with ability to carry multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRV) within a range of 1,800 kilometers, he added.
According to the commander, the new missile can be equipped with multiple warheads, not only one.
Training courses on the use of Khorramshahr have already begun, the general noted, saying the ballistic missile would soon become operational in the IRGC Aerospace Force.
Iranian military experts and technicians have in recent years made great headways in manufacturing a broad range of indigenous equipment, making the armed forces self-sufficient in the defense sphere.
Iran maintains that its military might poses no threat to regional countries, stressing that the Islamic Republic’s defense doctrine is entirely based on deterrence.
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Iran Fires New MIRV Capable Khorramshahr ballistic missile , Range 2000 km +
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Iran Mohajer 6 reconnaissance and strike UAV
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Iran Army & IRGC joint Air Defense drill dubbed Velayat, Khatam Anbia base
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Looking at soo much stuff being so called Reverse Engineered here, it looks like the West, Russia , China are happily selling the Arms to Iranians who are badging this stuff as Reverse Engineered. A Tu-4 is never looks exactly like a B-29 - even after drawings were stolen. Even then Materials and bomb loads differe unlike Iranian and Chinese picture perfect copies.
While the Sunni Arabs are buying hundreds of Billions of Dollars from all 3. It is in none of these Arms selling countries not to sell to the Irianians including the Yehudis who have been selling to Iran from the 1980's.
If so many weapons are begin developed by Iran they must be an Engineering powerhouse with many industries to boast which involves an MIC. I see no major evidence of this.
Looks like all Arms Manufacturers are busy selling to them without upsetting the Saudis, UAE, Qatar & Co. who are public ally feuding and buying Billions in Arms.
Without those Iranian Ballistic Missiles (which are also wink wink with the Houthis in Yemen) who can justify those Patriot Purchases?. If the US saw Iran as a real threat, no way those Ballistic Missiles cross the Persian Gulf and make it to Yemen.
While the Sunni Arabs are buying hundreds of Billions of Dollars from all 3. It is in none of these Arms selling countries not to sell to the Irianians including the Yehudis who have been selling to Iran from the 1980's.
If so many weapons are begin developed by Iran they must be an Engineering powerhouse with many industries to boast which involves an MIC. I see no major evidence of this.
Looks like all Arms Manufacturers are busy selling to them without upsetting the Saudis, UAE, Qatar & Co. who are public ally feuding and buying Billions in Arms.
Without those Iranian Ballistic Missiles (which are also wink wink with the Houthis in Yemen) who can justify those Patriot Purchases?. If the US saw Iran as a real threat, no way those Ballistic Missiles cross the Persian Gulf and make it to Yemen.
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Very timely thread with West Asia heating up.
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At the factory for repair of armored vehicles of the ground forces of the Iranian army
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3090677.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3090677.html
Interesting photo-report from the modernized "Center for Production, Modernization and Optimization of Armored Vehicles Shahid Zahran" of Iran's Defense Industry Organization. This enterprise was built by the Soviet side during the Shah's regime in 1973-1976 in accordance with the Soviet-Iranian intergovernmental agreement for the implementation of capital and medium repairs of artillery and armored vehicles and vehicles supplied from the USSR, and remains to this day the main armored and repair base of the ground forces Iran.
In the photo report, in particular, one can see the overhaul and modernization of the Chieftain tanks with their new fire control system for Iranian development, as well as the repair of BMP-1 and BMP-2, while the BMP-2 is equipped with an Iranian anti-tank missile system "Dehlavia" (the Iranian copy of ATGM "Cornet-E").
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They simply worked hard for this , their systems are not really state of art but atleast 1 or sometimes 1.5 gen behind similar systems abroad , They make up with tactics and manpower what they lack with technology as Syrian war experience has shown.Aditya_V wrote:Looking at soo much stuff being so called Reverse Engineered here, it looks like the West, Russia , China are happily selling the Arms to Iranians who are badging this stuff as Reverse Engineered.
If West and Russia/China would have been selling technology then Israel/US etc would have strongly resented and so would UN and Iran has been under heaviest sanction since Shah took over like 4 decades even now they are . Just like Noko they developed their MIC base prudently and against all odds.Ingenuity of Humans work better and deliver under intense pressure.
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plus turks and iranians are layer of green over ancient and well developed civilizations and the results speak for themselves when they are given freedom to work - look at number of iranian STEM profs in the west and the results of their students in international olympiad type contests.
human resources of the right caliber is not a issue for them.
probably inability to import the latest production machinery, tools also holds them back but increasingly cheen is at the leading edge on that will supply. they can also provide help on electronics production from asics to system level.
human resources of the right caliber is not a issue for them.
probably inability to import the latest production machinery, tools also holds them back but increasingly cheen is at the leading edge on that will supply. they can also provide help on electronics production from asics to system level.
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Iran Khatam Al-Anbia air defense "Damavand" exercise, S300 PMU2
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So how do they provide targeting updates to this missile at such long range?Austin wrote:Uzi Rubin analysis and opinion on Iran Long-Range "Soumar" Land attack cruise missile
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Digital Map , INS plus terminal image matching capabilty
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Pictures: Iran launched the serial production of air-to-air missiles Fakour-90
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There seems to be too much respect for the Iranians on this forum. For a country that has contributed nothing but Oil in last 50 years, It seems odd that MIC is flourishing as is claimed.
IMO lot of it is hot air and rest is imported maal like so many other nations. We will know very soon when the rubber would meet the road with upcoming war as to how much battle worthy is the stuff that is being shown around.
IMO lot of it is hot air and rest is imported maal like so many other nations. We will know very soon when the rubber would meet the road with upcoming war as to how much battle worthy is the stuff that is being shown around.
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the object of deterrence incl the psyops part is to raise the cost of war - economic, moral, political for the adversary.
in that i think iran is doing well despite being a pariah of sorts for the western block.
it has one advantage that libya, iraq lacked - a secure land frontier via the CAR states and caspian sea into the rodina and china....out of reach of any western attempts to blockade.
adversity and blockading always drives innovation. synthetic rubber was invented in germany when british cut off supplies from malaya. if you look at their diaspora in STEM and their track record in intl olympiads, they are not pushovers for sure.
infact a layer of radical islam or moderate islam on top of a old civilization does not automatically destroy the respect for knowledge and quest for education therein - turkey, syria, lebanon, iran, egypt ... all have produced formidable talents in stem and the arts. all of these are civilizations 1000s of years old, as old as our own. and islam too produced great centers of learning in cairo, baghdad, damascus, istanbul. unfortunately the uzbeki and pashtun warlords who made their foray into northern india for the sultanate and mughalate did not exactly share the intellectual leanings of their western co-religionists.
its the gulf arabs who were mostly nomadic or oasis farmers or sea traders who do not have much of a civilizational bedrock. hence the need to overawe by displays of gold and 'power'
in that i think iran is doing well despite being a pariah of sorts for the western block.
it has one advantage that libya, iraq lacked - a secure land frontier via the CAR states and caspian sea into the rodina and china....out of reach of any western attempts to blockade.
adversity and blockading always drives innovation. synthetic rubber was invented in germany when british cut off supplies from malaya. if you look at their diaspora in STEM and their track record in intl olympiads, they are not pushovers for sure.
infact a layer of radical islam or moderate islam on top of a old civilization does not automatically destroy the respect for knowledge and quest for education therein - turkey, syria, lebanon, iran, egypt ... all have produced formidable talents in stem and the arts. all of these are civilizations 1000s of years old, as old as our own. and islam too produced great centers of learning in cairo, baghdad, damascus, istanbul. unfortunately the uzbeki and pashtun warlords who made their foray into northern india for the sultanate and mughalate did not exactly share the intellectual leanings of their western co-religionists.
its the gulf arabs who were mostly nomadic or oasis farmers or sea traders who do not have much of a civilizational bedrock. hence the need to overawe by displays of gold and 'power'
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^^ Right but that civilizational boast is true for many states littered around the globe. If you remove the artificial states like Pak,BD,most of Europeans and African states, There is a layer of civilizational continuity. They all were great civilizations but their time is over. Done and dusted. Iranians too have absorbed all the evils of Desert Mafia.
But then what have Iranians achieved in last 50-100 years when it comes to War machinery to be accorded any respect.
Last I remember is that Iranians were walking into India to find jobs and patronage of local nawabs and later followed by Nadir Shah.
Crazy Shia soldiers as cannon feed and bombastic boasts is their only weaponry. I think they are punching way above their weight and I find them very similar to Pakis in attitude. Untrustworthy and ungrateful.
Arabs who till yesterday were looting caravans and looking at India with lustful eyes are no criteria for success and decency.
PS: The day, state of Kurdistan is formed, Iran will be completely surrounded by Arab slave Pakis, cut off from CAR, China who will never put foot on the ground and might of Arab+Israel+Anglo America.
But then what have Iranians achieved in last 50-100 years when it comes to War machinery to be accorded any respect.
Last I remember is that Iranians were walking into India to find jobs and patronage of local nawabs and later followed by Nadir Shah.
Crazy Shia soldiers as cannon feed and bombastic boasts is their only weaponry. I think they are punching way above their weight and I find them very similar to Pakis in attitude. Untrustworthy and ungrateful.
Arabs who till yesterday were looting caravans and looking at India with lustful eyes are no criteria for success and decency.
PS: The day, state of Kurdistan is formed, Iran will be completely surrounded by Arab slave Pakis, cut off from CAR, China who will never put foot on the ground and might of Arab+Israel+Anglo America.
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PHOTOS: In Iran, announced the start of production of fighters Kosar (Kowsar)
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3403205.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3403205.html
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PHOTOS: Exhibition of achievements of the Iranian military industry
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3513131.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3513131.html
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+1.Austin wrote:They simply worked hard for this , their systems are not really state of art but atleast 1 or sometimes 1.5 gen behind similar systems abroad , They make up with tactics and manpower what they lack with technology as Syrian war experience has shown.Aditya_V wrote:Looking at soo much stuff being so called Reverse Engineered here, it looks like the West, Russia , China are happily selling the Arms to Iranians who are badging this stuff as Reverse Engineered.
If West and Russia/China would have been selling technology then Israel/US etc would have strongly resented and so would UN and Iran has been under heaviest sanction since Shah took over like 4 decades even now they are . Just like Noko they developed their MIC base prudently and against all odds.Ingenuity of Humans work better and deliver under intense pressure.
Unlike the Arjun tank fiasco and (hopefully not) the LCA, they at least have stuff rolling off their production lines.
Bad management has resulted in India buying practically anything and everything from overseas at enormous costs.
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Iranian Soumar (real range as was stated today only 700km) and new Howeizeh (1350 km range) LACM, clearly visible difference in engines
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Iran manages to achive these indiginisation and make these military product with a Military Budget of just 12-14 USD billion , shows spending wisely works along with the power of PPP
https://tradingeconomics.com/iran/military-expenditure
https://tradingeconomics.com/iran/military-expenditure
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Austin wrote:
Iran is 2nd only to China is the Art and Science of reverse engineering they have reverse engineered Russian BUk Missile , French Crotale and US Hawk system and many other systems.
A lot of their system are also indiginous one specially their BM program , years of sanctions have let them develop indginous technology and MIC much like it helped ISRO do that for space.
Are you sure it isn't a buy-and-rename operation as is the case in Pakistan?
Iranians have been caught bullsh&thing about their military gear from the fake F-313 stealth fighter plane fiasco to photoshopped missile launch pictures.
Maybe they buy and modify or the seller does a modification for them and they stick a name on it.
Regardless, at least they are producing something so chalk one up those mullahs.
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Yes some things they buy like cruise missile engine from Ukraine but they don’t just paint and use like Pakistan but reverse engineer it and modify to their useNeshant wrote:Austin wrote:
Iran is 2nd only to China is the Art and Science of reverse engineering they have reverse engineered Russian BUk Missile , French Crotale and US Hawk system and many other systems.
A lot of their system are also indiginous one specially their BM program , years of sanctions have let them develop indginous technology and MIC much like it helped ISRO do that for space.
Are you sure it isn't a buy-and-rename operation as is the case in Pakistan?
Iranians have been caught bullsh&thing about their military gear from the fake F-313 stealth fighter plane fiasco to photoshopped missile launch pictures.
Maybe they buy and modify or the seller does a modification for them and they stick a name on it.
Regardless, at least they are producing something so chalk one up those mullahs.
Remember they are under harsh sanction as possible for last 30 years or more so even buying a pin comes under microscope of US plus the eternal enimity with Israel who killed many of their scientist etc but they get the things done inspite of that , human determination can over come every thing if so desired