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Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby kit » 18 Sep 2017 15:27

http://www.eurasiareview.com/17092017-us-nsa-spying-on-indias-ballistic-missile-systems-and-nuclear-weapons-oped/

In October 2004, one signals intelligence program, “RAINFALL,” “successfully geolocated signals of a suspected Indian nuclear weapons storage facility.” In response, several other parts of the NSA collaborated to confirm that the signals were related to Indian nuclear weapons, and to begin a new collection effort that revealed “spectacular” amounts of intelligence on India’s nuclear weapons capabilities.

An Australian NSA site, RAINFALL, isolated a signal it suspected was associated with an Indian nuclear facility, according to SIDtoday. Collaboration between RAINFALL and two NSA stations in Thailand (INDRA and LEMONWOOD) confirmed the source of the signals and allowed for the interception of information about several new Indian missile initiatives. Although these missile systems did not come to public attention for several more years (the Sagarika submarine-launched ballistic missile was first tested in 2008), the NSA’s access to these signals gave them foreknowledge of their Third Party SIGINT partner’s actions.
One recent SIGINT success against India’s Nuclear Weapons Development Program exemplifies the Agency’s new environment of cross-program collaboration in satisfying intelligence needs. This is a great example of SIGINT programs working together to achieve a common goal. In October 2004, RAINFALL successfully geolocated signals of a suspected Indian nuclear weapons storage facility. This prompted a Foreign Satellite (FORNSAT) collection facility, LEMONWOOD, and the Unidentified Signal and Protocol Analysis Branch (S31124) at NSA to collaborate in isolating these signals and, through signals development, confirm their content as related to Indian nuclear weapons. This breakthrough highlighted the need to deploy additional demodulating equipment to LEMONWOOD in order to expand a modest collection effort undertaken since the signal was discovered in October.

Immediately after fielding this equipment, collection of this new network began to provide what is being called “spectacular” activity. Exploitation of that collection revealed India’s first-ever SAGARIKA Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) launch; DHANUSH sea-launched Short Range Ballistic Missile (SRBM); and pilotless target aircraft.

Collection from this new access has also provided significant intelligence on India’s possession of two different types of airdropped bombs, one believed to be a very large Fuel Air Explosive (FAE) bomb of an unidentified type. The other, not yet confirmed by the analytic community, may be a new generation of airdropped nuclear weapons.

LEMONWOOD has sustained access to satellite communication links : (information blacked out). The FORNSAT Division is working with the site and the Trans-Asia Product Line (S2A4) to expand collection against this high-priority network.

It should also be remembered that the National Security Agency (NSA) of the United States installed a super spy software named APPARITION in New Delhi, as we reported earlier. The APPARITION program pinpoints the locations of people accessing the Internet across sensitive locations. Subsequent actionable intelligence information may lead to sending lethal Reaper drones to eliminate the target. The Top Secret reports speak of an SCS surveillance unit being set up in the embassy campus in New Delhi that operated under the codename DAISY. However, the Indian Government has not responded or is yet to make a statement regarding this Embassy Espionage.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby sum » 18 Sep 2017 15:47

The all seeing and all knowing Khan

Im sure they have no shortageof HUMINT too

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby pravula » 18 Sep 2017 19:52

kit wrote:http://www.eurasiareview.com/17092017-us-nsa-spying-on-indias-ballistic-missile-systems-and-nuclear-weapons-oped/
Subsequent actionable intelligence information may lead to sending lethal Reaper drones to eliminate the target. The Top Secret reports speak of an SCS surveillance unit being set up in the embassy campus in New Delhi that operated under the codename DAISY. However, the Indian Government has not responded or is yet to make a statement regarding this Embassy Espionage.


:roll: equal-equal only.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby ramana » 18 Sep 2017 22:15

Its bokwas. Most likely its a cover-up for what Rabindra Singh revealed.
And pretend its uncovered by their super duper Snowden hacked monitoring programs.
Any way all those missile launches are announced via NOTAM and even BRF monitors them.
After the big embarrassment due to Manning and Snowden they and NoKo huge TN surprise they have to pretend they are all seeing and all knowing.

How about they introspect on the pictures that Kim Jung Un was showing?

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby kit » 19 Sep 2017 13:51

Bakwas is how intelligence works.You always need to presume your frenemies know but to what extent ?!


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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby Austin » 19 Sep 2017 18:13

Actually its a very interesting details reveled by Snowden like other program snowden disclosed in past.

Gives a good insight into how SIGNIT/COMINT can aid into to HUMINIT that CIA/NSA/DIA employs in India ...Just the tip of iceberg and the only one released so far which are of truly classified nature including program names.

With such details where Indian nuclear weapons were stored known to US , this would have been handy during negotiations during Indo-US nuclear deal , Its like US knows what we know but they would pretend they dont and we would revel what we want to which they already know and beyond

The previous Embassy Cable leaks were just low level gossip stuff that US Embassy heard from Inidan politician and policeman !

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Postby ramana » 21 Sep 2017 04:56




They were so busy with India th at they got a shock when NoKo tested a TN with yield 120 kt to 240 kt.

Robert Einhorn was talking about Sagarika during US Senate hearings in April 1998 after Ghauri test firing.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby sum » 21 Sep 2017 05:23


Wasnt SSB itself being absorbed into IB? :-? :-?

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby Karthik S » 21 Sep 2017 16:07

R&AW completes 49 years today.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby vasu raya » 21 Sep 2017 20:16

Uncle's surveillance is extensive and they use Iran, China and now maybe NK to justify development of those capabilities while the application is all over.


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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby shyamd » 29 Sep 2017 19:07

India prevented an assassination attempt on Bangladesh PM. Assassination was directed by ISI and was to be conducted by security force guarding Sheikh Hasina

http://www.news18.com/news/india/jihadi ... 26205.html

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby ramana » 30 Sep 2017 00:20

Isn't this a redux of the coup plot against Sheikh Hasina a few years back?
So what is wrong in the Bangladesh security force that repeated plots are occurring?


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Postby Philip » 13 Oct 2017 13:39

Apols. if this was posted earlier.fascinating story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 56611.html
The man with the golden tongue: India’s master of Second World War espionage
Under the codename of Silver, Bhagat Ram Talwar spied for Britain, Germany, Russia, Japan and Italy in the space of five years during the Second World War, but author Mihir Bose uncovers how his true loyalties lay with Indian independence

Kim Sengupta Thursday 2 February 2017

With a basic education and speaking only broken English, Talwar managed to fool the cream of British military intelligence as well as the Nazis images courtesy of Mihir Bose unless stated
The part played in Britain’s wars by forces from the Empire, the sacrifices made, the countless honours won for gallantry, were airbrushed out for a long time from most accounts of history written in this country. It is only recently that there has been a degree of restitution with some recognition of the contributions made by these men and women.

There has, however, been very little chronicled about the espionage missions which were undertaken by colonial subjects, often at great risk to themselves. And it is only now that the tale has emerged internationally of a spy who led the most extraordinary life of intrigue and danger in the Second World War.

The agent, codenamed Silver, was recruited by Peter Fleming, then working for British military intelligence. Fleming’s brother, Ian, was to draw on some of the experience of his glamorous and dashing sibling in creating James Bond. Peter had a further role in the success of 007: it was he, an established author, who persuaded Jonathan Cape to publish the first of the series, Casino Royale.

The espionage in which Peter Fleming was engaged in the 1940s was very real: based in Delhi, he played a key role in a deception programme against the Axis powers through the running of double agents. It was in this post that he became the handler of a man calling himself Rahmat Khan, who was working in Afghanistan purportedly to counter the activities of the Germans and Italians on India’s western borders.

Col Peter Fleming knew the world of espionage well but even he was duped by his Indian recruit (Rex)
Unbeknown to him, Fleming had hired someone who was himself a master of deception. In a new book, Silver: The Spy Who Fooled the Nazis, the prolific author and journalist Mihir Bose reveals how Khan, whose real name was Bhagat Ram Talwar, played off one side against the other in a dizzying mosaic of subterfuge. There were a few double or even triple agents during the War, but Talwar was the only one who could claim to have spied for five, or one can say, even six sides.

The man behind the masks peeled back by Bose in this fascinating tale came from the landed gentry of what was then the North West Frontier. In a space of five years he spied for Britain, Germany, Italy, Japan and Russia. His real loyalty, however, lay with the struggle for Indian independence, something his paymasters in London would have suspected if they had carried out a thorough enough background check. Talwar’s brother, in fact, had been hanged by the British for his part in the death of a policeman during an assassination attempt on the governor of Punjab.

Talwar claimed to have killed a man by feeding him curry laced with tiger’s whiskers
Talwar made the journey into Afghanistan on foot through the Khyber Pass in an often hostile landscape then, as now, bristling with guns. Fleming was, at times, worried about his safety, once imploring him not to make a trip because of the presence of a suspect who may have blown his cover. But Silver insisted on going ahead, befriended the man and invited him for dinner in Kabul. He later described to Fleming that he has served a curry mixed with tiger’s whiskers, the sharp bristles of which cause internal bleeding. “It was the last meal he ever ate,” Silver commented later, words one could easily imagine Bond using in a report back to M about one of his adversaries.

Indian nationalist leader Chandra Bose meets Adolf Hitler in Berlin in 1942 (Universal History Archive/UIG via Getty Images)
The relationship between the agent and his handler was an intriguing one. Fleming – Eton and Oxford – was not only a journalist who had written highly acclaimed books of his adventures in remote places, he was also something of a society figure, married to acclaimed actress Celia Johnson, a prized guest on the country house circuit. Silver/Talwar, on the other hand, had left school with the most rudimentary of educations and, unlike most middle-class Indians, spoke only broken English.

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It was a shared love of deception, says Bose, which made the two men get on so well with each other. And, in this deception, Silver won hands down, managing to hide his loyalty to the communist movement in India to whom he sent much of the money which had been paid to him by his various foreign employers.

​Talwar also carried out an outstanding coup against the Raj, smuggling the wanted nationalist leader, Subhas Chandra Bose, out of India.
The original plan was for him to get to Moscow, but, when that failed, Silver organised that he got to Berlin where he met Hitler and other senior German officials. Bose was to eventually get to Japan, raise an army from captured Indian prisoners of war to fight the British, and then die in an airplane crash.

Talwar, centre, is reacquainted with German agent Dietrich Witzel, right, in Calcutta in 1966
The end of the War was followed by independence and the partition of the sub-continent by the British before they left. In the dreadful communal violence that followed, Talwar and his Hindu family had to flee newly created Muslim Pakistan to India.

Then in 1948, Silver/Khan/Talwar, the man of mystery, disappeared. Some British officials thought that he had been killed while trying to escape from Pakistan. But then, just as suddenly, he reappeared a quarter of a century later, at an international seminar on Subhas Chandra Bose in Calcutta. There is a photograph in the book of him from that time, dapper in a suit, with Dietrich Wizel, a senior German Abwehr agent he had sparred with and hoodwinked in Kabul. Fleming had died two years earlier of a heart attack while shooting in Scotland. One imagines he would have rather enjoyed being at that meeting; smiling old spies reminiscing about secrets and lies of a deadly game all those years ago.

Silver: The Spy Who Fooled the Nazis, by Mihir Bose (Fonthill,

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby Karthik S » 16 Oct 2017 14:23

Coming soon: Ministry of Defence’s cyber, space, special operations divisions
According to sources, the proposals for the three new formations — Defence Cyber Agency, Defence Space Agency and a Special Operations Division — are with other ministries for approval as the resources for them have to come from “accretion and not under save-and-raise”.


http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-4892404/

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Postby rkhanna » 16 Oct 2017 15:08

Karthik S wrote:
Coming soon: Ministry of Defence’s cyber, space, special operations divisions
According to sources, the proposals for the three new formations — Defence Cyber Agency, Defence Space Agency and a Special Operations Division — are with other ministries for approval as the resources for them have to come from “accretion and not under save-and-raise”.


http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-4892404/


So the way i read - Bulk of our SOF units will continue to lie outside the SFD. there will be budgetary allocation for SFF, SF, Marcos, Garud separately + a new budget for the SFD?! Similar for Intel dissemination?

This SFD looks like a new unit using current resources with a whole new tasking.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby sum » 16 Oct 2017 16:02

Wont this lead to another set of duplication and confusion among already varied SF structure?

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby rkhanna » 16 Oct 2017 16:12

^^ Exactly what i am afraid about.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby Karthik S » 16 Oct 2017 18:28

We'd be needing CCS I suppose.

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Re: Intelligence and Strategic Security

Postby JE Menon » 23 Nov 2017 18:04

Nambi Narayanan, speaking about his framing as a spy by as yet unknown parties through local agencies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_fNzUjO8ks


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