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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 14 Jun 2018 06:27

https://twitter.com/IndianDefenceRA/sta ... 2408124417 ---> Sent by a friend, Tata Safari Storme, on a car transporter on their way for induction into the services with Indian Army for the role of new general purpose light utility vehicle.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby jaysimha » 15 Jun 2018 16:41

REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP)
DDG PPO IHQ OF MOD (ARMY)
INVITATION OF BIDS FOR SUPPLY OF SPARES OF ROADWAYS TRUCK
PMS (T-815)
RFP No. A/16425/285588/Roadways Truck/OS-16A DT 26 Oct 2017
http://www.indianembassyrome.in/docs/1509704117RFP%20Roadways%20Truck.pdf

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby dinesha » 23 Jun 2018 18:28

Army-spec Tata Safari Storme: How it’s different from the regular one
https://www.cartoq.com/ktm-duke-390-or- ... hat-video/

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby srin » 23 Jun 2018 21:48

dinesha wrote:Army-spec Tata Safari Storme: How it’s different from the regular one
https://www.cartoq.com/ktm-duke-390-or- ... hat-video/


That URL is for a different article. Here's the right one: https://www.cartoq.com/army-spec-tata-safari-storme-how-its-different-from-the-regular-one-video/


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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby jaysimha » 07 Jul 2018 19:17

Indian Army to buy Light Strike Vehicles from Force Motors
Pune, May 10, 2018:
http://www.forcegurkha.co.in/bbt-force- ... elease.pdf

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 29 Aug 2018 08:13

Ashok Leyland wins tender for Indian Army’s tracked combat vehicles
https://www.army-technology.com/news/as ... -vehicles/

India-based Hinduja Group firm Ashok Leyland has won a tender for developmental works for the Indian Army’s defence tracked combat vehicles. Under the deal, the automobile company will work in collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) laboratory Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE). The two organisations will jointly carry out the production, assembly and testing of a lightweight clutch in order to design and develop weight-optimised 1,500hp automatic transmission for the army’s main battle tanks. Ashok Leyland Defence head Amandeep Singh said: “For over three decades, Ashok Leyland has been a vital part of our defence forces through our mobility solutions.

“As part of our strategy to enhance our contribution to our defence forces and to expand our business scope within our focus area of ‘Solutions for Mobility on Land’, we have been working on tracked vehicles. With this win, we mark yet another milestone where we start working on the tracked vehicles that our soldiers use.” According to Singh, the company sees a potential opportunity to upgrade and repower the BMPs or tanks in service with the Indian Army. In addition, Ashok Leyland is engaged in building indigenous solutions for power packs and running gear that would help overhaul both the service’s existing fleet of infantry combat vehicles (ICVs) and the new future infantry combat vehicles (FICVs). Singh added: “We are proud that we are the only vehicle manufacturer in India having indigenously designed, developed and manufactured power packs beyond 350HP. “The tracked combat vehicle opportunity also exists in several other countries which use Russian-made combat vehicles.”

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Re: Artillery: News & Discussion

Postby souravB » 13 Nov 2018 18:58

mods: if this is not the right thread kindly move it

Ashok Leyland FAT 6X6 for carrying artillery


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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 13 Nov 2018 20:38

Saar, I moved it to this thread. Better suited here. Thanks.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby souravB » 13 Nov 2018 20:43

Rakesh wrote:Saar, I moved it to this thread. Better suited here. Thanks.

Thanks Admiral saab. :D

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby nachiket » 24 Jan 2019 09:04

Hasn't Force motors already been chosen to supply the IA's LSV? ^^Is TATA planning to export the Merlin then?

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 24 Jan 2019 10:28

nachiket wrote:Hasn't Force motors already been chosen to supply the IA's LSV? ^^Is TATA planning to export the Merlin then?


Looks like light armoured vehicle contender.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby jaysimha » 21 Mar 2019 10:28

Ministry of Defence
Induction of Indigenous Bridge in Corps of Engineers
Posted On: 20 MAR 2019 5:34PM by PIB Delhi

http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePag ... ID=1569180

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 09 Apr 2019 04:15

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1114886273745870848 ---> Incidentally, Ordnance Factory Medak has also exported a pilot batch of its 4 x 4 Mine-Protected Vehicle (MPV). It expects a bulk order for the same from this foreign customer.

Tweet Above is in response to SJha's own tweet from Dec 2018....

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1076398030159458307 ---> India's Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) says it has received an order for its mine-protected vehicle (MPV) from a 'West-Asian' country. The MPV is on the left. On the right is the 'Modernized' MPV (MMPV), a version of which OFB says it is making for the CRPF. Image Source: OFB

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Postby Rakesh » 09 Apr 2019 04:16

https://twitter.com/Aryanwarlord/status ... 4888559616 ---> The base MPV is already doing stellar service with anti-Naxalite forces in the hinterland. This example was photographed close to the Jharkhand-West Bengal border by me in September.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Eric Leiderman » 09 Apr 2019 06:41

Mahindra had displayed a MPV a while back any updates on that

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby jaysimha » 24 Aug 2019 14:50

DRDO ready with anti-terrorist vehicle technology
India is now ready with its indigenously developed Anti-terrorist Vehicles (ATV) that can withstand any kind of attacks during anti-terrorist operations in cities.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bhubaneswar/2019/aug/22/drdo-ready-with-anti-terrorist-vehicle-technology-2022595.html

Surprising, why media puts these news in some remote corner?? that too in bhubaneshwar bracket..
Can I assume it is because Hemant Kumar Rout is from bhubaneshwar??

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 30 Nov 2019 08:42

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Kalyani group making an APC. Looks more like a MPV than APC.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Vips » 03 Dec 2019 19:21

Bharat Forge/Kalyani group seems determined to turn itself into a MI behemoth. Any updates on the progress of their jet engine development?

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 28 Dec 2019 12:37

Thakur_B wrote:http://www.autocarpro.in/news-national/force-motors-bags-light-strike-vehicles-indian-army-29421

Force motors has won the competition for Light Strike Vehicle with their offering based on Gurkha, a design heavily inspired by G wagon. Hopefully the force LSV engine has been updated from the puny underpowered engine on the Gurkha.



The Gurkha variant for Army seen testing out in the wild. Very SDRE and utilitarian.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby nam » 28 Dec 2019 15:07

It seems to be bare bones, because of the requirement to be heli transportable on Mi17. Gypsy used to do that.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 28 Dec 2019 17:49

Seems to be using Pirelli tyres, would have loved to see an Indian brand like MRF or JK. Are Pirelli tyres made in India?

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 28 Dec 2019 19:49

^^^ As per this article from 2017, the answer is no...

Bullish on India, Pirelli plans to scale up presence
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... s?from=mdr
30 July 2017

Pirelli currently imports all its tyres from various factories across the world as it does not have manufacturing operations in India.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 18 Jan 2020 14:21

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Force Gurkha LSV inducted. It has also been showcased with Para SF during army day.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 18 Jan 2020 17:07

FInally after 14 plus years of drama, we have the LSV in service. The previous iteration of LSV competition had the following competitors.
Thakur_B wrote:2. Light Specialist Vehicle. The competitors are
- Tata LSV already being exported to friendly countries and used by various DRDO labs to mount systems. Indigenous design, high probability of winning.
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- Mahindra's Axe which is also used by Israeli special forces
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- Ashok Leyland-Panhard's Colt used by French forces as PVP/VPS
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- OFB's licensed Flyer, a very solid design also licensed by General Dynamics for US Special forces. It looks odd because of rear mounted engine. People will scoff at it because it will be made by OFB, but it is the most successful design of the lot chosen by a lot of countries.
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- Land Rover
- Vectra's rehash of 1000 year old GM truck.


It's a shame that we never got to see more of the OFB prototype Flyer based design. There are only two public domain images of the Indian iteration of Flyer design. One is above and the other is the one posted by Broadsword donkey years back from previous trials.
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So the Maruti Gypsy has been replaced by:
Tata Safari GSV
Force Gurkha LSV

The Light armoured vehicle purchase is yet to be settled. It appears to be a threeway competition between Tata, Mahindra and Kalyani Group.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby hnair » 18 Jan 2020 17:29

Dang. Till recently, I had around me, a Gurkha with the snorkel et al on a share basis with two friends and the experience had been less than stellar. Hope the defense editions are more robust and higher spec!!! At the time of introduction in mid-80s, the Gypsy that these are replacing, was a jump up in quality and also better uptime in cold weather mornings

That OFB and Tata (ugliest) looked the most promising

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Indranil » 18 Jan 2020 19:20

My favourite was the Axe.

By the way, there will be more than the Safari and the Gurkha. Tata is developing two versions. Mahindra is developing a more muscular version of the Axe. All shared on this thread earlier. I am sure more orders are to come.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 22 Jan 2020 07:27

https://twitter.com/IndianDefenceRA/sta ... 3789858819 ---> Picture from Army Day 2020 of ATGM mounted Maruti Gypsy.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 22 Jan 2020 07:36

hnair wrote:Dang. Till recently, I had around me, a Gurkha with the snorkel et al on a share basis with two friends and the experience had been less than stellar. Hope the defense editions are more robust and higher spec!!!


It is not confirmed yet, but the Army offering was based on new 140 Hp variant and not the older 85 Hp underpowered variant.

Edit: Evo Magazine says that the force Gurkha extreme variant is derived from the variant developed for army. The extreme variant comes with 2.2 diesel with 140 hp, derived from mercedes Benz engine.

https://mobile.twitter.com/evoIndia/sta ... 0739891200



Edit 2: From Sp's MAI magazine

During the 1971 Indo-Pak War, 10 Para (Commando) conducted raids 80 km deep inside Pakistani territory across the Thar Desert. The stealth and speed of the attack on Pakistani Ranger Base at Chachro, Tharparkar District of Sindh in Pakistan, took the enemy completely by surprise, who didn't expect such deep raid and had not deployed any early warning elements ahead of its defences. They had no inkling of the impending attack. Exploiting enemy's psychological dislocation, no time was wasted by 10 Para (Commando) in raiding Virwah and Nagarparkar in quick succession. Use of specially fitted jeeps / jongas, armed with light weapons was the only available option for transportation. The raids, capture of Chachro in particular, were successful because of simple plans including catering from required firepower down to the fuel and vehicle loads. The speed and ferocity of the attacks forced enemy to panic and flee despite having superiority in numbers and fortified positions. Chachro was the first time such a long distance raid in desert terrain was executed by India, becoming a benchmark for similar operations in the future. However, future requirements for Special Forces required not only capability of moving ab initio by ground, but also air transporting these LSVs deep inside enemy territory.


On Army Gukha LSV specs
Their salient specifications and accessories include: 104 KW or 140 HP @ 3800 RPM BSIV; 321 NM @ 1600- 2400 RPM; power to weight ratio 30 KW per tonne; ground clearance 250mm; transmission 4 x 4 Diff locks in front and rear; run flat types Pirelli Scorpion, black out lamps; gun mounts/weapon mount, and; folding structure. These LSVs will meet the long standing requirements of our Special Forces, enhancing their mobility to strike deep into the enemy.



http://www.spsmai.com/experts-speak/?id ... e-Vehicles

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby hnair » 23 Jan 2020 10:53

Thakur_B, thanks, that power will surely help. Underpowered is one thing, but niggling issues with suspension, fuel line, weather proofing etc that needed a lot of garage time. We have used it a bit during the 2018 Kerala flood relief (of course, as a non-state privateer), in doing rescue, towing, cleanup etc. Hope they sort everything out in that one.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby ashishvikas » 24 Jan 2020 12:11

Some more pictures of the Mahindra ALSV...currently seems to be marketed primarily in the UAE, can't wait to see this in service with Indian forces!

https://twitter.com/Parthu_Potluri/stat ... 1233508352

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby ks_sachin » 24 Jan 2020 15:40

ashishvikas wrote:Some more pictures of the Mahindra ALSV...currently seems to be marketed primarily in the UAE, can't wait to see this in service with Indian forces!

In what role?

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 24 Jan 2020 18:13

ks_sachin wrote:
ashishvikas wrote:Some more pictures of the Mahindra ALSV...currently seems to be marketed primarily in the UAE, can't wait to see this in service with Indian forces!

In what role?


LAmV. Light Armoured vehicle. Many competing designs floating around. Tata, Mahindra and Kalyani prototypes have been spotted on the roads in recent years.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 06 Feb 2020 12:27

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Force LSV with ATGM mounted.


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