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Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 21 Oct 2017 12:58

Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

This is a category of hardware which really doesn't capture the imagination of Jingos but this is where, in a short while, our domestic industry has come a long way. I feel that this category of military hardware requires its own thread as it just gets buried in the Indian Army general discussion thread.

This thread will most likely be a slow moving one, as it is not a fancy topic and the vehicles stay in service for a generation. This thread may be also be used to cover the history of now decommissioned military vehicles such as Shaktimaan and Jonga. Mods may delete this thread if they feel the topic can be adequately served from existing threads.
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To kick off the discussion, I just saw the video retweeted by Saurav Jha showing Ashok Leyland Stallion in action.
https://twitter.com/IDFIndianDef/status/919788426525802496
This is axel breaking stuff, and yet truck after truck after truck soldier on.

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Re: Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

Postby Thakur_B » 21 Oct 2017 13:53

Some snowmobiles being used by ITBP

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Re: Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

Postby Thakur_B » 27 Nov 2017 22:57

Renault Sherpa in service with NSG.

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Polaris ATVs in ITBP service.

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Re: Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

Postby Thakur_B » 27 Nov 2017 22:57

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What seems to be a new variant of Tata LSV spotted near Pune. It is for now being referred to as Tata LSV V2 / Merlin.


We had seen the cad images of this vehicle last year
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The same vehicle was earlier seen getting tested in the Himalayas.
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Re: Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

Postby Thakur_B » 27 Nov 2017 23:01

Another image of a weird looking vehicle has been circulating on the internet for a while...
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This appears to be a weird modification of Mahindra Axe. From the fresh appearance of new prototypes, it seems like the Army might be going in for LSV soon.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 27 Nov 2017 23:26

Great Thread. I hope you do not mind, but I changed the Title Thread as there was too many abbreviations in there.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 28 Nov 2017 00:16



Ashok Leyland FAT 6x6, currently vying to replace replacing original Scania FATs that came with Bofors guns.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 08:37

Not exactly military, PM's new ride is Range Rover Sentinel, which will be replacing BMWs.

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Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 08:42



Ashok Leyland 8x8 used for SAAB BAMSE SRSAM (probably mated when the army / airforce were looking for imported systems)

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 08:45

Some trailers and missile carriers made by Tratec.

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Their site : http://deftec.in/products_defence.php

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Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 10:05

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New Bulletproof Mahindra Scorpio of J&K Police & CRPF.

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MP Police SWAT (?) / Commandos with unknown modified uparmoured vehicles.


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Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 10:22

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^^ Panthera T6. It was supposed to be "quickly inducted" but never went anywhere.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Manish_P » 29 Dec 2017 10:24

Thakur_B. Fascinating thread. Will proposed/concept/indevelopment models also be showcased here ?

With our private developers getting more traction under the present GOI & make-in-india/made-in-india, it looks like we will be seeing faster and varied developments here than earlier times.

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Postby Manish_P » 29 Dec 2017 10:25

^^ ok. got the answer to my question :)

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2017 10:26

Yes Manish ji, I will dig out my old posts on the former LSV and LAMV contenders/concepts and post them here.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Indranil » 29 Dec 2017 10:31

Fascinating thread. Please keep educating us on this topic.

By the way, on Tratec’s website there is a mention of a 70 tin missile carrier( with no picture). So, an yet to be disclosed 70 ton missile. The plot thickens.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 30 Dec 2017 21:21

There used to be three broad vehicle requirements by IA, namely, GSV (General Service Vehicle), LSV (Light Specialist Vehicle) and LAMV (Light armoured multiprpose vehicle).

GSV order went to Tata with their Safari Storme which will replace around thousands of Maruti Gypsies.

As of now, Tata, Kalyani, M&M & Ashok Leyland are the parties known to be slugging it out for requirement of 1300 Nos LSV and 702 Nos LAMV. The expected value of LAMV contract is supposed to be in the range of 1.5 Crs per vehicle (Suck it Bentley). These competitions also attracted some smaller players who purchased design rights / made tie ups with established players in the field, given the fact that our firms have barely graduated to designing half decent consumer segment vehicles, extreme off roaders are still a nice field.

Here's and example of one such "domestic" offering; Shri Lakshmi Defence's Viper (based on Terradyne Gurkha which was featured in fast five, again based on a ford chasis)
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Established players have taken the same route. Tata's offering for the LAMV, which has been very imaginatively named LAMV :rotfl: , has been designed in tie up with Supacat UK.
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Tata also seems to have abandoned the older drab LSV design for a scaled down version of their LAMV as LSV V2, which is a shame, because their older vehicle, though not as TFTA, seemed very utilitarian.

Kalyani, is known to be offering Raven Light strike vehicle for LAMV, based on Israeli MDT Tiger., designed around a Toyota Chasis
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Ashok Leyland had done a tie up with Panhard and were offering "Colt", which is available in both LSV and LAMV configurations. This seems to be outright license production of Panhard PVP.
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Whatever Mahindra is offering, seems to be under wraps. IMHO, these 5-8 ton behemoths for LAMV seem to be overkill and overpriced considering the only advantage they bring forth over LSV is V shaped hull and protection from .50 cal weapons.

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Postby Austin » 30 Dec 2017 21:40

Thakur_B wrote:Not exactly military, PM's new ride is Range Rover Sentinel, which will be replacing BMWs.

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Are you sure it will replace BMW or will it just supplement it ?

Range Rover Sentinal looks great https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/17my ... index.html

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby abhik » 31 Dec 2017 01:08

I hope we don't go the screwdriver-giri even for the 4x4 requirements, given the huge automotive industry we have here. BTW why do the tires of most of the Indian designed/version vehicles seem so SDRE, is it for fuel efficiency :roll: ? Look like they could use some Whey Protein supplements.

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Postby Thakur_B » 31 Dec 2017 10:05

Austin wrote:
Are you sure it will replace BMW or will it just supplement it ?

Range Rover Sentinal looks great https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/17my ... index.html


Yes. It was reported a while back.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/pm-ditches-bmw-opts-for-a-range-rover/article19498141.ece

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 11 Jan 2018 05:55

Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Slight OT, but Mahindra seems to be pro-actively looking beyond India for exports. Came across this Youtube video for the Gulf markets by chance.


Looks like Mukesh ji found Mahindra's entry for IA LAMV competition. Straton for LAMV, Axe for LSV.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Indranil » 12 Apr 2018 11:32

Lots of new vehicles unveiled at DefExpo.









FRom Ashok Leyland's stables!

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Re: Military Vehicles: MPVs, Trucks, FATs, LSV, LAMV, TEL/TELARs, Hovercrafts etc.

Postby Indranil » 12 Apr 2018 11:46

Thakur_B wrote:Another image of a weird looking vehicle has been circulating on the internet for a while...
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This appears to be a weird modification of Mahindra Axe. From the fresh appearance of new prototypes, it seems like the Army might be going in for LSV soon.

This one has finally broken cover. It is called Mahindra LBPV (Light Bullet Proof Patrol Vehicle).

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Postby Manish_P » 12 Apr 2018 12:27

Neat..

As an aside, some of these might even have civilian spin-offs and aquire cult status (like the Khan Hummer)

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 12 Apr 2018 12:33

:twisted: The TFTA-ness of the design gives me a viraat boner


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Postby shiv » 13 Apr 2018 20:42

The two "commandos" with the Mahindra Scorpio are models - each with massive tattoos and evidence of gymming+protein supplements. Lots of that in India nowadays unlike my gen with strings for muscles. Men with such bulging muscles are too inflexible and possibley too slow to be commandos.

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Postby Thakur_B » 15 Apr 2018 00:39

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 15 Apr 2018 08:58

Indranil wrote:Fascinating thread. Please keep educating us on this topic.

By the way, on Tratec’s website there is a mention of a 70 tin missile carrier( with no picture). So, an yet to be disclosed 70 ton missile. The plot thickens.


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You are forebearer of mischief indranil babu.

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Postby Aditya G » 18 Apr 2018 01:31

I really like the LSV requirement - and both AL and Tata offerings are nice - purpose bhoot military vehicle. However the program is veiled in secrecy. No word any where on the status

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Postby Rakesh » 18 Apr 2018 23:45

Tata Safari Storme For The Indian Army Revealed: Specifications, Features & Images
https://www.drivespark.com/four-wheeler ... 25476.html

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Postby Thakur_B » 13 May 2018 08:01

http://www.autocarpro.in/news-national/force-motors-bags-light-strike-vehicles-indian-army-29421

Force motors has won the competition for Light Strike Vehicle with their offering based on Gurkha, a design heavily inspired by G wagon. Hopefully the force LSV engine has been updated from the puny underpowered engine on the Gurkha.


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Postby Thakur_B » 13 May 2018 20:13

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^^ This is supposed to be the buggy version of Force's Gurkha based LSV. Then number of vehicles on order is unknown.

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Postby Thakur_B » 20 May 2018 13:18

After NSG, CRPF too adopts the SHerpa.
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Postby Aditya G » 20 May 2018 23:29

Thakur_B wrote:After NSG, CRPF too adopts the SHerpa.
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NSG reqd Sherpa for assault ladder platform. Pray tell why CRPF and CISF need such an expensive platform? I am all for forces to get the right kit, but should be for a purpose.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Vasu » 21 May 2018 14:57

Rakesh wrote:Tata Safari Storme For The Indian Army Revealed: Specifications, Features & Images
https://www.drivespark.com/four-wheeler ... 25476.html


Tata Safari Storme Army Edition Deliveries Begin

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Postby Thakur_B » 29 May 2018 06:41

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IED attack in Shopian. 3 soldiers and an officer injured, but looks like the MPV did it's job.

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Manish_P » 29 May 2018 20:05

Good vehicle

Protected the occupants despite the huge blast (judging by the size of the crater)

Really well done

Now will wait to hear about the termination of the jihadi vermin responsible for this..

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Re: Military Vehicles: News & Discussion

Postby Indranil » 29 May 2018 20:09

The size of that crater :eek:

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Postby Rakesh » 04 Jun 2018 03:17

https://twitter.com/indiandefence11/sta ... 0157459456 ---> Indo-Tibetan Border Police Jawans with their BRUTUS HD PTO All-Terrain Vehicles which they recently got from Polaris. It can rapidly mobilise Indian troopers alongside Indo-China border effectively.

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