Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 03 Sep 2018 12:43

Kakarat wrote:
Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Finally SP-10 seems about to come out.

Tarmak007


Apologies if this is old news but I had given up hope.


Sp-10 has already had its maiden flight on 26-Jul-18 and should have been handed over to IAF for squadron operations by now. We are waiting for news on SP-11 and would request you to read the first post of this topic for current situation

Today is 29th August :rotfl:


Sorry sirji, work has been keeping me away. Was on tenterhooks for SP-10 since March.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby ashishvikas » 03 Sep 2018 16:03

When should be SP11 coming out.. any news ?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 03 Sep 2018 21:16

Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Sorry sirji, work has been keeping me away. Was on tenterhooks for SP-10 since March.

I try and keep page 1 of this thread, up-to-date. If not me, some other mod will definitely edit it. Refer to that and All Izz Well :)

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Manish Jain » 04 Sep 2018 16:23

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1036928317016788992

India's LCA Tejas crosses a major milestone towards final operational clearance (FOC), performs its first mid-air refuel. Details shortly. This a few months after the LCA's 1st hot refuel (pic below) & over a year after its first flight with the @Cobham_plc refielling probe.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby nash » 04 Sep 2018 16:33

Manish Jain wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1036928317016788992

India's LCA Tejas crosses a major milestone towards final operational clearance (FOC), performs its first mid-air refuel. Details shortly. This a few months after the LCA's 1st hot refuel (pic below) & over a year after its first flight with the @Cobham_plc refielling probe.


Yippeee, what left now, gun firing ?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby nam » 04 Sep 2018 16:34

AOA :D

There goes the last straw in the wind.. short range.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby ashishvikas » 04 Sep 2018 17:25

India's Tejas Fighter Tests Mid-Air Refueling For The First Time
by Vishnu Som | Updated: September 04, 2018 16:59 IST

The test conducted on Tuesday, shortly after 1 pm, involved a 'dry' link up. In other words, there was no fuel which was actually exchanged between the Indian Air Force Il-78 tanker and the Tejas fighter through its air-to-air refuelling probe. Nine further tests will be conducted to validate this capability including 'wet' tests when fuel is transferred from the tanker to the fighter.


https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tejas-f ... india-news

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 04 Sep 2018 17:31

This cant be that 3 legged cheetah any more.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Trikaal » 04 Sep 2018 17:48

Lungi dance time :)

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 04 Sep 2018 17:53

Manish Jain wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1036928317016788992

India's LCA Tejas crosses a major milestone towards final operational clearance (FOC), performs its first mid-air refuel. Details shortly. This a few months after the LCA's 1st hot refuel (pic below) & over a year after its first flight with the @Cobham_plc refielling probe.

YES! Get the FOC and start producing Mk1s, till the Mk1A is ready. Please do *NOT* stop production line till Mk1A is ready.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Manish Jain » 04 Sep 2018 18:19

Rakesh wrote: Please do stop production line till Mk1A is ready.


You mean, don't stop production line. Right?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Kersi » 04 Sep 2018 18:23

But it still cannot travel supersonic, underwater.












Sorry to be caustic n cynical to IAF but venting my several years of frustration of hearing various excuses

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Kersi » 04 Sep 2018 18:25

SaiK wrote:This cant be that 3 legged cheetah any more.


:D :D :D
Now it is a six legged cheetah
:D :D :D

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 04 Sep 2018 18:54

We need a deep strike full load out config photo from our deb raana.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Kersi » 04 Sep 2018 18:56

SaiK wrote:We need a deep strike full load out config photo from our deb raana.


I would like to see a Tejas with
Two 250 / 500 kg LGB or similar ASMs
Two Derby / Python / Astra / Meteor AAMas
A Lightening IV pod
1/2 drop tanks.

Is is possible ?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 04 Sep 2018 19:27

Manish Jain wrote:
Rakesh wrote: Please do stop production line till Mk1A is ready.


You mean, don't stop production line. Right?

Oops :) That is what I meant. Corrected Now.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 04 Sep 2018 19:37

For oncei don't mind the delays in mmrca x.0 Saga

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 04 Sep 2018 19:40

Guided munitions are good but better would be a config to take out ground targets using anti-radiation missiles, and couple of air-launched brahmos and those smart air-field weapons. More A2G config and less A2A config. [Deep strike mission mode]

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Kakarat » 04 Sep 2018 20:27

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/10 ... 3084131329

#TejasFOCUpdate
For 1st time PV6 from #Tejas flight-line made a 'dry contact' & got locked with a IL-78. Today's flight was piloted by Gp Capt Rajeev Joshi. The team was stuck at Gwalior AFB for a week owing to rains. More trials in the offing before mid-air refueling. @akananth


AK says that it was PV-6, but we dont have a previous news on current pv trainers getting the probe on the contrary we have a news that it was a problem to get the probe on the current trainers and probe will be certified only on the trainer SPs. It could be a simple typo or a great news, some one has already commented asking for clarification so lets wait for his reply

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Indranil » 05 Sep 2018 10:52

It was LSP8. But the biggest news is that the simulations and actual test results were a close match. Testing will continue today and throughout this week thanks to that positive result.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Khalsa » 05 Sep 2018 15:01

Manish Jain wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1036928317016788992

India's LCA Tejas crosses a major milestone towards final operational clearance (FOC), performs its first mid-air refuel. Details shortly. This a few months after the LCA's 1st hot refuel (pic below) & over a year after its first flight with the @Cobham_plc refielling probe.


Bloody Amazing .... steadily and surely.
Go Tejas

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Rupak » 05 Sep 2018 17:07

Go Cpt Rajeev Joshi was my house captain once upon a time!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Sep 2018 18:39

Kersi wrote:
SaiK wrote:This cant be that 3 legged cheetah any more.


:D :D :D
Now it is a six-legged cheetah
:D :D :D

Has to be a 7 legged cheetah..on a serious note. Hope these learnings/models are used to the max on AMCA

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Kakarat » 05 Sep 2018 18:48

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1037327382183636992
Here’s an IAF statement today in the LCA Tejas first mid-air refuel (dry) yesterday.


Image

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Gagan » 05 Sep 2018 19:22

We need a picture !!!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Sep 2018 19:24

^^Not to be a spoilsport, but do we need to disclose these details like the names of pilots? to make the job of ISI easier? Also, wouldnt the actual fuel transfer be a bigger beast as that would lead to shifts in CG. Nevertheless, success/FOC is not far.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 05 Sep 2018 20:30

We can't be fearful of ISI for any reason whatsoever. If this is a genuine reason due to an observed gap, please keep that secret and get it fixed rather. A minimal exposure reveals such gaps, and it is important to keep it that way. A total black box is no use, even security-wise.

Yes, we need pics from the closely following Tejas! :)

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby JayS » 05 Sep 2018 21:08

Gagan wrote:We need a picture !!!


No. We need a video. :mrgreen:

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Indranil » 05 Sep 2018 22:32

They will come. They did not make a video from the tanker. But they did from the accompanying trainer (backseat), HUD of LSP8 and Gopro mounted in its cockpit.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Neshant » 06 Sep 2018 07:26

nam wrote:AOA :D

There goes the last straw in the wind.. short range.



The great news is that the Tejas can remain small and agile while still having range.

Its a better option than a larger heavier plane which comes with range but poor maneuverability.

Tejas small size will eventually come to be seen as an advantage in battle.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 06 Sep 2018 10:05

What percentage of fuel gets consumed by Tejas during take off, refueling opens a whole load of options.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 06 Sep 2018 10:07

#IAF release says during yesterday's dry contact trials, IL-78 MKI tanker of the 78 Sqn was launched from its base in Agra while LSP-8 took off from Gwalior. Ability to carry out A-2-A refueling is 1 of the critical requirements of #FOC https://twitter.com/writetake/status/10 ... 7329954817

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby tsarkar » 06 Sep 2018 10:10

Good development and a fine achievement by the designers, especially given the fact that real estate is very limited in the aircraft to allow for required plumbing. Also upgrades required to Flight Control software.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Dileep » 06 Sep 2018 12:15

Isn't this the first time IAF releases a bragging news about Tejas? Now, THAT is a reason for lungi dance!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby prabhug » 06 Sep 2018 13:54

what would change if we need to use MKI for refuelling ?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby pankajs » 06 Sep 2018 14:07

Cross post

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/10 ... 2563232768
@writetake

So, @IAF_MCC Vice Chief AM SP Deo says the 3rd production line (or 2nd if Aircraft Div is counted out) for #Tejas, must go to a private party and not #HAL. Anything that comes quickly and money stays in the country, we are fine, he is quoted in TOI. So everyone wants a HALt!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Gagan » 06 Sep 2018 19:30

Music to my ears!
HAL will actively try to sabotage this, their biggest fear is that LCAs will be churned out on time, and be of better finish quality than they every will.
HAL and MOD babooze will try to sabotage this EVERY STEP OF THE WAY!

They will be very childish about it too! Won't give complete designs, some critical design elements will mysteriously disappear, MOD Babooze will set up impossible terms, and make it a Panchh Varshiya Yojna to select a vendor, cancel it a few times, ask for a few hundred million dollars deposit, all documents in triplicate - Full on Sarkari Haramigiri is going to be on display - that is if this plan ever gets into implementation stage.

More than likely, the IAF Vice chief will be asked to change what he said by MoD - nip it in the bud, so to say.

Let the Sarkari inefficiency of HAL continue !!!!!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Trikaal » 06 Sep 2018 19:37

HAL needs a competitor. IAF has experience dealing with babus. They should use every known trick to make sure the third line goes to a private vendor. Only when HAL has a competitor will they get their act together.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Gagan » 06 Sep 2018 19:45

They need to give this to either Mota Bhai (Don't ever make the mistake of giving it to Chota Bhai !!!), or TATA Aerospace LTD, or L&T as the final integrator.
TASL and L&T already make parts, they can easily be the final integrators as well
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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Postby Prasad » 06 Sep 2018 21:18

Gagan,
could you please edit it and put in Dynamatic Technologies instead of Dynamic ? :)


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