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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Haridas » 16 Apr 2018 20:55

^^^ Maz bondhu, you mean Kakarat?
Let us meet again some day it's been many years.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Philip » 16 Apr 2018 21:42

I'm not against public days, or keeping the cost affordable provided biz visitors ,the reason for the entire show get their due. The exhibitors get very limited time to interact with their prospective customers who may be not just from India.Aero- India shows used to attract a lot of visitors from ASEAN, African and S.Asian nations.
The complaint one often hears however is that biz visitors get little time when on biz days "day trippers" from our def. establishment in particular crowd the show.This is why I suggested one exclusive day for the mil-industry VIP visitors.One can increase the cost of tkts for biz days and allow DPSU "family" passes for the public days only.

Visits to ships, flying displays in similar fashion.While there are incremental improvements, we still need to raise the quality of our shows to the best intl. standards. This is not just the infra at the venue, but also easy transportation to the show, etc. Being a global event this requires the highest possible arrangements for visitors and exhibitors.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby JayS » 16 Apr 2018 22:11

Philip wrote:
I suggest that in future,all defexpos should have only biz visitors ,or hugely increase the cost of open day tkts.,and the habit of free passes to DPSU families and friends banned.Otherwise it becomes just another tamasha.



If there are more people coming, just extend the show. Foreign OEMs can be sent packing as anyways their stalls are mostly useless and they are not at all interested in the crowd. Desi stalls can be kept running for couple of more days. I am sure they would be more than happy to do that.

More the people see desi products and get impressed the better.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Prasad » 16 Apr 2018 22:15

Incessant whining. Day 3 was DPSU Families. Crowd wasn't unberable. SSridhar saar came that day only. Ask him.
Day 4 was free and open to public. Per kakarat, it was still manageable despite being crowded. We should have 1 (2 might be asking for too much) day open for all. AI & DefExpo everytime. The number of people who line up outside at the embankment near the Yelahanka airbase is enough to show why that is so. Blr has more defence labs sure. That doesn't mean, we can't have another day open for all. Not doing so doesn't make any sense when you want to MII. DPSUs and DRDO should push for it in fact.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby arshyam » 16 Apr 2018 22:41

If people don't see what their country is capable of making, how will they ever take pride in the country, or push for projects like MII or Made in India. As they say, seeing is believing, and many otherwise ordinary people did see with enthusiasm.

Philip sir's comments are like the old Hindi DD commentary of cricket matches held abroad: the commentator would sit in front of a tv in Delhi trying to guess whether it's a boundary or a fielder is waiting to catch the ball. Neither has the full picture, but wax eloquent on ground conditions.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Philip » 17 Apr 2018 00:01

Gents.I too had pals of mine frm Ch. who attended, some tried but couldn't make it, etc.cause of the vehicular chaos.Taking pride, etc. is all very well, but what matters first is a well-organised show where biz opportunities are exploited first.Due to rising costs, in recent years foreign exhibitors have started cutting down with their participation, less exhibits and a smaller staff.The IN and armed forces often have tamashas on occasion- the Marina Beach in Madras and Vizag seafront have witnessed naval affairs.So too have events been held elsewhere.

The air show lasts for 4-5 days, enough time if visitors are staggered as said before.If the intention is to display only desi stuff, I disagree, as most people also want to see all the firang goodies they read about or see on telly.The DRDO has had there own expos at selected centres to promote import substitution.They've attracted good crowds. The DRDO expo could be an annual or twice a year affair, venues changing for each show.
On IAF,Navy and Army Day- the services throw open there establishments to the public.So there are enough occassions when the public can see what the services operate with and how.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2018 02:19

Philip, No.business deals get clinched here.
If people who pay for all this get to see why crib?

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Philip » 17 Apr 2018 04:21

Well biz deals get done at other shows, take Dubai, Paris , Farnborough even Spore.Anyway, enough said.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 17 Apr 2018 10:20

Walkaround of OFB Upgunned 155mm 45cal M-46
https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 4371426310

This gun was standing on the ground like it was an orphan, there was no info board nothing

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Javee » 17 Apr 2018 11:52

The M777 and the Kalyani model was a hit, in-fact the BAE folks even gave a demo of stuff on the targeting when I did a walk through. Kalyani folks did talk about their lineup that they are getting ready for the fire-tests, about their TI models and the different cal's on the offing. I think that I noticed was the lack of information displays. LM had a kiosk of sorts so did some of the western mfg. Desi folks, not so much, they could've had 55' TV displaying info or may be have tablets with the said info. I think may be GoTN/Tamil university can help translate some of the content for the local population also. If only what we wish happens..

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 17 Apr 2018 12:12

DRDO Ghatak/AURA and a very confusing Info board from DefExpo18

https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 2750821376

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby jaysimha » 17 Apr 2018 12:19

DefExpo 2018: Indian and Russian firms sign 7 deals for defence hardware Russian Company JSC AGAT signed agreements for after-sale support and modernisation of the Fregat radar, installed on Indian naval ships
By T E Narasimhan
https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/npc/2018/april/din-14april2018.pdf

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 17 Apr 2018 14:15

I finally got my pics sorted out. Will post a few over here. Which is the best medium to upload pics over here ? Imgur /tinypic/anything else ?

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby JayS » 17 Apr 2018 16:07

Bob V wrote:I finally got my pics sorted out. Will post a few over here. Which is the best medium to upload pics over here ? Imgur /tinypic/anything else ?


Any hosting site is OK which gives sharable link. I use photo bucket. Imgur et al are also OK. Google Drive not OK as the images are not embedded in the posts.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 18 Apr 2018 00:40

Kalyani Conventional Recoil Bharat Ultra Light Howitzer (ULH) 155mm 39 CAL
https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 4570903553
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Kalyani Advance Hybrid Recoil Bharat Mounted Gun System (MGS) 155mm 39 CAL
https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 7065339904
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Brochures of Kalyani Conventional Recoil Bharat Ultra Light Howitzer (ULH) & Advance Hybrid Recoil Bharat Mounted Gun System (MGS)
https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 8698834944

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby maz » 18 Apr 2018 10:46

BobV, try Flickr.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 18 Apr 2018 11:26

Sure sir. Infact, most of the pics are over there. Except that I forgot to add watermark.

Here's a sample, btw.
INS Sumitra, as seen from the foredeck of INS Sahyadri.
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 18 Apr 2018 11:58

Another one -

INS Kamorta & INS Airavat
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 18 Apr 2018 13:46

Outdoor exhibit at the expo -
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby SSridhar » 18 Apr 2018 13:48

Bob V, nice pictures.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 18 Apr 2018 13:51

HAL Rudra tail rotor detail
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 18 Apr 2018 13:55

SSridhar wrote:Bob V, nice pictures.


Thanks sir. Will be posting the remaining ones tonight. Or if its getting too cluttered here, then I can mail the pics to the Mods & they can maybe put them in an album.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 18 Apr 2018 15:36

DRDO CVRDE MBT Arjun MKII live demo at DefExpo18
https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 6561796096

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 19 Apr 2018 13:02

Few more from the port visit :

INS Sumitra, at berth followed by INS Kamorta & INS Airavat
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INS Sumitra with the flag-mast on INS Sahyadri, in the foreground, followed by INS Kamorta & INS Airavat in the background.
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INS Kamorta
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Visitors on the foredeck of INS Sumitra
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INS Sumitra - main mast
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Removed pics from onboard the ships
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bala Vignesh » 19 Apr 2018 13:23

Amazing set of photos, Bob and Kakarat!!

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Philip » 19 Apr 2018 22:04

Lovely pics.It shows that there is huge scope for improving the firepower and capabilities of the OPV
which should be built for but not fitted with the extra weaponry and sensors. One can see that there is huge space forward of the main gun.Either the gun can be moved forward, or an MBU at the bows with VLS SAM modules in-between the MBU and main gun.Anti-ship missiles could be located amidships.The 2 gatlings could be enhanced by the LW gun/ missile mounts where advanced MANPADS with a range out to20+km can complement the VLS modules forward if a secondary system is reqd. as they would be operating in blue water zones too, say countering piracy off the African coast where Chin warships operate out of Djibouti.

The news that Russia may tie up with Somaliland and establish its own naval base there is a most interesting development as the US and its allies also possess bases at the entrance to the Red Sea ss well as in the Gulfie states.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby ramana » 20 Apr 2018 00:04

Great pictures. Makes us feel like we were there.

I think soon a decision on Arjun will be made.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Prithwiraj » 20 Apr 2018 00:22

Akash looks like Buk... with those green tops

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby ramana » 20 Apr 2018 00:32

Yes it was derived from it but is much better/effective system.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 20 Apr 2018 01:41

Some more pics, from the port:

Main mast of INS Airavat
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Another view of INS Airavat
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Another view of INS Sumitra
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*have removed pics taken onboard
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 20 Apr 2018 01:45

Removed pics, as requested.
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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby arshyam » 20 Apr 2018 05:55

@Bob Saar, please take down the pictures from on board the ships. When I had visited, the Navy officer specifically asked us not to share photos from on the deck. He was okay with pics taken from the dock.

I know mobile cameras were allowed and a lot of people took pics, but as BRF, let's respect the Navy's request.

PS. They should have endorsed a no mobile policy during the visit. No point in banning cameras and allowing mobile phones. Requesting people not to share does not really work...

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Bob V » 20 Apr 2018 10:35

Alright then. Have taken them down. No more pics from the port.

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby arshyam » 20 Apr 2018 22:01

^^ Thanks saar!

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 21 Apr 2018 18:57

HAL Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) live demo at DefExpo18

https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 1114422273

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Kakarat » 22 Apr 2018 20:00

Wallpaper version Image of Light Utility Helicopter (LUH)

https://twitter.com/kakarat2001/status/ ... 1903398913

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby Prasad » 24 Apr 2018 10:07

Click on the links for bigger sized pictures.

LUH
ImageLUH 1 by Delhi defence Review, on Flickr

LCH
ImageLCH 2 by Delhi defence Review, on Flickr

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Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Postby JTull » 24 Apr 2018 19:10

There must be good amount of lift from those wide wings on LCH. Have they considered these for Rudra?


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