2017 version of the Malabar series of exercises saw 3 carriers exercising together with their fleets - must be gilli danda at sea, or is keeping good order at sea ?. China does not think of 3 of its largest competitors conducting annual naval exercises together as having no military angle. Admiral Lanba's statements have more to do with India's temporary detente with China. No different from the Indian army claiming it never wrote a note claiming the US would leak its secrets to Pakistan
Good observation, because it is both. Gilli Danda and Keeping Good Order @ Sea
And unlike the Indian Army note, the Admiral is on record having made that statement. It addition, India also purposefully removed Australia out of the 2018 Malabar Exercises. So much for the fantasy of the Quad. Even the Indian Admiral knows that in a future war, America will not come to India's aid.India Keeps Australia Out of the Malabar Exercise -- Againhttps://thediplomat.com/2018/05/india-k ... ise-again/
KrishnaK wrote:China's never claimed that it will intervene on Pakistan's behalf or vice-versa. The current Indian assessment is that India might be forced to fight a 2 front war. Given that it sees that threat as a real possibility, it's building up the capacity to fight a 2 front land war. Had that not been the case, those monies would have been spent elsewhere, maybe on its navy. India has aligned itself with the US, not allied. It hasn't given any security commitments and hasn't received any in return. That doesn't in anyway preclude the possibility of acting in concert if push came to the shove. Building up that capacity forces China to account for it, forcing it to spend monies it would have spent elsewhere.
Attacking PoK will invite a natural response from the Chinese, with all the billions the Chinese have invested in CPEC. Or for that matter, anywhere in Pakistan. A two front war is real for India, but America coming to India's aid - in that war - is an Aesop's Fable.
And with a GDP five times that of India's, I am sure they can afford to spend all over the map. We are the ones who have to play catch up, no?
And if the above is true, then perhaps America does not need alliances like the Quad. America does not need to convince us of interoperability.
KrishnaK wrote:India & Japn needs the US as much if not more. If the US were to throw in the towel and retreat behind the vast distance of the Pacific (assuming such a thing were possible), the full brunt of China's power would be felt in the neighbourhood. There is no need to join with anyone at the hip - it is an excellent idea to build up as many options as possible however.
I am sure we will feel the full brunt. The stone throwing at Doklam really hurt our feelings.
Perhaps next time, the Chinese will bring in catapults, boulders, spears and shields. That will really drive the point home.
The US will not throw in the towel in the region. They need to be there. Nice scare mongering tactic, but that is not going to work
This was the same argument put forth during the first MMRCA contest and the SEF contest. Rejection of American birds would result in cancellation of the Malabar Exercises, shutting down of the carrier working group and jet engine working group, India will have to face the Chinese all alone, etc. All nonsense onlee, because the reality is otherwise. US military platforms are being delivered and more are in the pipeline, the Malabar exercises are continuing with the US Navy, Yudh Abhyas exercises are continuing with the US Army, etc.