CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby Rakesh » 27 Jun 2019 23:21

‘In India we trust’ would be good US policy
https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/ ... icy-52345/

Three issues, in particular, stand out: India’s recent data localisation measures; the purchase of Russia’s S-400 missile defence system; and, oil trade with Iran. The Trump Administration's usual negotiating idiosyncrasies—unilateral economic measures and sanctions to use later as bargaining chips—have already preceded the visit.


The US is being typically sanctimonious while seeking to dictate to India the terms of engagement with others. When Washington has maintained promiscuous defence relationships with several partners in West Asia and the extended Middle East, including with Pakistan, why expect India to act differently? India will maintain multiple defence and strategic partnerships based on its national security requirements.


India must make clear what role it seeks in the international order and decide upon the means to achieve them.

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby kit » 05 Jul 2019 18:17

Turkey Stockpiles Crucial Weapons Parts, Anticipating U.S. Sanctions
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-01/turkey-stockpiles-crucial-arms-parts-anticipating-u-s-sanctions

Turkey turned to Russia to address weaknesses in its air defense after failing to persuade the U.S. to share technology from its Patriot air-defense system as part of any acquisition deal. A missile deal with Moscow was announced in July 2017, and to try to head it off, the State Department last year approved a possible $3.5 billion Patriot sale to Turkey.

Still haunted by a crippling U.S. arms embargo half a century ago, Turkey’s military has been amassing parts for F-16 jets and other military hardware, according to two Turkish officials familiar with their country’s defense strategy. Relations between the two countries deteriorated over the course of the Syrian civil war, when the U.S. armed a Kurdish militia that Turkey views as a terrorist group, and in the aftermath of a 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan that his government blames on a Turkish imam residing in the U.S.


As India's list of US origin equipment grows, should we start hoarding spares as well ? Is the leeway for getting US high tech actually a curse rather than a blessing ?

Does India even have a gameplan in place if relations with US go south ?

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Jul 2019 20:08

Kissinger had a statment: being the enemy of US is dangerous, being a friend is lethal. Look what happened to UK and US.

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby kit » 11 Mar 2020 15:35

No CAATSA guarantees for India despite growing defence-trade ties with US
https://www.janes.com/article/94795/no-caatsa-guarantees-for-india-despite-growing-defence-trade-ties-with-us

As the United States and India continue to strengthen their defence trade partnership, the spectre of penalties related to the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) remains a risk that India is not safeguarded against, it has been confirmed to Jane's .

Despite some media reports in India suggesting that the Asian country has been awarded 'waiver' status under CAATSA - effectively shielding it from US sanctions linked to purchases of Russian military equipment - a US Department of State official told Jane's such country-specific dispensations are not made available under the Act.

"While we cannot prejudge whether a specific transaction would result in sanctions, it is important to note that CAATSA does not have any blanket or country-specific waiver provision," said the official. "There are strict criteria for considering a waiver, and each transaction is evaluated on a case-by-case basis. The Secretary of State has not made any determination regarding the significance of any transaction involving India."

CAATSA was enacted in 2017 in response to Russia's alleged interference in the 2016 US presidential election and the annexation of Crimea. Since its introduction the US government has imposed penalties on China and Turkey over their respective procurements of Russian Almaz-Antei S-400 air defence systems. In October 2019 India ordered five S-400 systems for USD5.5 billion.

In the spirit of CAATSA, the US Department of State official urged US allies to cease such military procurements from Russia. However, the official did not confirm whether CAATSA-related penalties were the subject of discussions between the two governments during high-level diplomatic meetings in New Delhi in late February.

"Without commentating on private diplomatic conversations, I can confirm that we urge all of our allies and partners to forgo transactions with Russia that risk triggering sanctions under CAATSA," said the US Department of State official

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby Rakesh » 11 Mar 2020 18:38

This is the same thing they have been saying for a while now. Why is Janes publishing the same thing again?

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby kit » 11 Mar 2020 20:36

?testing the waters,to see a response ? .. maybe they are just idiots , the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.. also there is no "India" section / office at the Pentagon anymore. Gonna get interesting, it might take the POTUS intervention to cancel a new "bill" sponsored by anti Indian Congress (wo)man , it all looks like a prelude to me. Also will set of a trend of president requiring to certify India as an ally for waivers annually.. just to keep needling India and putting it on tenderhooks , but there is a big difference they don't understand, India is spending its own money ! .. also they can kiss any sort of fighter plane deal goodbye

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby Rakesh » 12 Mar 2020 04:17

If this is new, then this is short sighted. We get it. There is no blanker waiver. How many times must you say it? :D

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby kit » 12 Mar 2020 04:53

Rakesh wrote:If this is new, then this is short sighted. We get it. There is no blanker waiver. How many times must you say it? :D


Honestly thats what confounds me "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" :mrgreen:

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Re: CAATSA...An Oxymoron?

Postby Cain Marko » 12 Mar 2020 06:28

IMVVVHO - all this will blow over, and soon. India will rise dramatically if it manages COVID as well as it looks (touchwood, nazar utarao)! Many US MNCs including defence giants will line up to MKI/MII. Ultimately all US admins are tied to the bottomline via the F500 - esp. the MIC, and the WILL take India's interests in consideration if they want to thrive!


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