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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby titash » 20 Dec 2018 21:23

Austin wrote:Both Shivalik and Talwar class frigates are quite good in terms of Sea Keeping Capability , ASW and AD , Shivalik class has an edge in terms of SAM but the new Talkwar class IN is buying has VLS Shtil-1 with ARH capability so range would be greater than 65Km , The older one is SARH type but the rate of fire is quite good. The Navy loves the Talwar design as it has done well in tropical climate and during anti-piracy mission along the cape of horn.


Is that confirmed? The VLS Shtil plus the ARH mode? Wouldn't that still require some kind of multifunction radar?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 20 Dec 2018 22:54

titash wrote:Is that confirmed? The VLS Shtil plus the ARH mode? Wouldn't that still require some kind of multifunction radar?


Yes , VLS Shtil uses 9M317MA anti-aircraft missiles with active seeker , Talwar class uses 9M317M anti-aircraft missiles


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby titash » 20 Dec 2018 23:34

Austin wrote:
titash wrote:Is that confirmed? The VLS Shtil plus the ARH mode? Wouldn't that still require some kind of multifunction radar?


Yes , VLS Shtil uses 9M317MA anti-aircraft missiles with active seeker , Talwar class uses 9M317M anti-aircraft missiles

One more video - pretty cool actually.

If the missile works as advertised, this is a pretty solid upgrade to the 3 Delhis, 3 Shivaliks, 6 Talwar/Teg vessels.


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby John » 21 Dec 2018 01:07

Austin wrote:
titash wrote:Is that confirmed? The VLS Shtil plus the ARH mode? Wouldn't that still require some kind of multifunction radar?


Yes , VLS Shtil uses 9M317MA anti-aircraft missiles with active seeker , Talwar class uses 9M317M anti-aircraft missiles


Official source for this cannot open YouTube at work? I find it strange they would fit Orekh FCR when it has 9m317ma, IMO it’s available option but I don’t think they carry them. Also pairing it with Fregat will greatly limit their capability.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Vips » 21 Dec 2018 06:03

Navy Inducts 5th Landing Craft Utility Ship.

PORT BLAIR: The Vice Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Ajit Kumar P on Wednesday commissioned the indigenously designed and built transport ship LCU L55 into the Indian Navy.
LCU L55 is the fifth ship of Landing Craft Utility (LCU) Mk-IV class to be inducted into the Indian Navy.

LCU Mk-IV ship is an amphibious ship with its primary role being transportation and deployment of main battle tanks, armoured vehicles, troops and equipment from ship to shore.

"These ships based at the Andaman and Nicobar Command can be deployed for multi-role activities like beaching operations, search and rescue, disaster relief operations, supply and replenishment and evacuation from distant islands," Navy Spokesman DK Sharma said.

The ship, weighing 830 tonnes, is capable of transporting various kinds of combat equipment and is fitted with advanced systems like Integrated Bridge System (IBS) and Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS).

The ship, commanded by Lt Commander, has a complement of five officers, 45 sailors and is capable of carrying 160 troops in addition.

The remaining three ships of the same class are in advanced stages of construction and are scheduled to be inducted over the next one and a half years, he said.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Pratyush » 21 Dec 2018 17:59

titash wrote:
If the missile works as advertised, this is a pretty solid upgrade to the 3 Delhis, 3 Shivaliks, 6 Talwar/Teg vessels.



If we're going to upgrade to ship's to go missiles. Then why not get MRSAM.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby John » 21 Dec 2018 18:52

Pratyush wrote:
titash wrote:
If the missile works as advertised, this is a pretty solid upgrade to the 3 Delhis, 3 Shivaliks, 6 Talwar/Teg vessels.



If we're going to upgrade to ship's to go missiles. Then why not get MRSAM.

Same problem as fitting 9m317MA you need a radar system that provides continuous tracking like Mf-Star or has high rpm like Daring DDGs Sampson radar. Otherwise their capabilities against fast moving targets will be limited.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 21 Dec 2018 20:46

View: One INS Arihant does not make for a credible nuclear deterrence
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 190229.cms
By Admiral Arun Prakash (retd)

The surge of national pride at the recent completion of "deterrent patrol" by the Indian Navy's first home-built, nuclear-propelled, ballistic-missile-armed submarine (termed SSBN), INS Arihant, is fully justified.

By way of comparison, Chi'a's first SSBN, the Type 092 Xia, became operational in 1983, but faced endless problems, including technical unreliability and radiation leaks from its nuclear reactor. The Xia never went on a patrol and a sister submarine reportedly sank after a mishap.

ndia's achievement and claims vis-a -vis INS Arihant will be subjected to the closest scrutiny by intelligence experts and security analysts worldwide. INS Arihant's first patrol, apart from demonstrating that the submarine is fully operational, is also proof of:

* Crew proficiency in operating its nuclear-reactor and other complex systems.

* Establishment of standard operating and safety procedures.

* The functionality of the navy's underwater communication system which can deliver encrypted messages containing targeting information and launch commands over thousands of miles.



It is, therefore, necessary to understand that the third leg of the triad is currently a "work in progress" and will remain so for some time. There are three main reasons for this.


Firstly, the role of an SSBN is to pose a nuclear threat to adversary targets that are either population centres or military nodes. It does this by positioning itself in a safe patrol area that is remote from shipping traffic, but within missile range of its likely targets.

While most potential targets in Pakistan and China are between 1,600 and 4,000 km from the Bay of Bengal, the K-15 missile, reportedly carried by INS Arihant, has a range of less than 1,000 km. Therefore, to target cities and nuclear forces deep inside China or Pakistan, from a "safe haven", an Indian SSBN will need to be armed with missiles of at least 3,000-5,000 km range -- no doubt under development.

Thus, in a 50-year perspective, India will be looking at a nuclear submarine force of 8-12 SSBNs and SSNs. In this ambitious and pioneering endeavour, INS Arihant would have a critical role to play, possibly as a trial-and- technology-demonstrator platform.

The prime lesson that has emerged from the successful ATV programme is related to project management. Funded by the DRDO, the ATV programme was headed, manned and managed exclusively by naval personnel, which included nuclear engineers, ship designers, submarine operators and logisticians. Retaining a sharp focus on the end product, this team overcame many hurdles and impediments to deliver INS Arihant.

The story of other defence projects, like the Kaveri turbo-jet engine, the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, the Arjun battle tank and the Trishul surface-to-air missile could have been very different had the Ministry of Defence ensured intimate user involvement and enlisted help of the armed forces for adroit and time-bound project management.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 21 Dec 2018 21:07

John wrote:Official source for this cannot open YouTube at work? I find it strange they would fit Orekh FCR when it has 9m317ma, IMO it’s available option but I don’t think they carry them. Also pairing it with Fregat will greatly limit their capability.


Yes they do carry them that is the reason the trials got delayed , The 9M317MA is a new missile infact much lighter than 9M317 ,with VLS Capability and different kind of control capability and propulsion with ARH seeker for name sake it called Shtil-1

As far as Fregat and Orekh goes , its good to have 2 Seperate radar compared to a single MFCR type , Different Radar can operate in different band providing the advantage of different band and frequency , There is greater redudancy if you hit one radar or it gets damaged or malfunctioned then you have other radar providing backup plus you have the advantage of having different energy management for Radar for better burnthrough and range.

The fashion to have a single MFCR is mostly due to achieve lower RCS , Cost and ability of AESA to multitask but there is penalty in other areas. Cost effectiveness also matters. Even USN uses PESA on many ships and SARH system for many SAMS which has its own virtue

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby John » 21 Dec 2018 22:01

Austin wrote:
John wrote:Official source for this cannot open YouTube at work? I find it strange they would fit Orekh FCR when it has 9m317ma, IMO it’s available option but I don’t think they carry them. Also pairing it with Fregat will greatly limit their capability.


Yes they do carry them that is the reason the trials got delayed , The 9M317MA is a new missile infact much lighter than 9M317 ,with VLS Capability and different kind of control capability and propulsion with ARH seeker for name sake it called Shtil-1

As far as Fregat and Orekh goes , its good to have 2 Seperate radar compared to a single MFCR type , Different Radar can operate in different band providing the advantage of different band and frequency , There is greater redudancy if you hit one radar or it gets damaged or malfunctioned then you have other radar providing backup plus you have the advantage of having different energy management for Radar for better burnthrough and range.

The fashion to have a single MFCR is mostly due to achieve lower RCS , Cost and ability of AESA to multitask but there is penalty in other areas. Cost effectiveness also matters. Even USN uses PESA on many ships and SARH system for many SAMS which has its own virtue


Austin you are confusing the two radars, Orekh FCR are used for illumination of the target for Semi active guidance. They will serve no purpose for active radar homing.

No sure your point MFCR and AESA relates to my point regarding Fregat is inadequate to serve as target guidance radar for ARH it Rpm is simply inadequate to keep up with initial and mid course guidance for these missiles. Sure it can do its job but hit probability will be quite low against fast moving targets there is good reason Sampson has 3 time faster rpm.

I would rather take SARH missiles for Grigorivich that may explain why it has Orekh radars, i suspect they will carry mixture of Semi active and active guided missiles.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 21 Dec 2018 22:42

It does not matter what the guidance system is CG , SARH or ARH you need to provide missile quality track data and guide it to the target and provide MCG update , The ARH homing comes into plan only last few 10 km depending on target RCS or even less for most part you need high quality track data of the target and bring it close enough to let ARH track and guide it or simbly guide it to the end in case of CG or SARH , Orekh does that.

Fregat is a MFCR for Air/Surface search it provides initial cuing to the target air and land and keeps track of it and then gives that to more specialised radar of SAM or AShM or CIWS , Sampson has to do many things at a time and it multitasks it with single S band , Does not have liberty of speciailsed radar or multi band one on IN ships.

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Postby John » 21 Dec 2018 23:17

Austin wrote:It does not matter what the guidance system is CG , SARH or ARH you need to provide missile quality track data and guide it to the target and provide MCG update , The ARH homing comes into plan only last few 10 km depending on target RCS or even less for most part you need high quality track data of the target and bring it close enough to let ARH track and guide it or simbly guide it to the end in case of CG or SARH , Orekh does that.

Fregat is a MFCR for Air/Surface search it provides initial cuing to the target air and land and keeps track of it and then gives that to more specialised radar of SAM or AShM or CIWS , Sampson has to do many things at a time and it multitasks it with single S band , Does not have liberty of speciailsed radar or multi band one on IN ships.

Austin I am lost what you are trying to say Orekh a illuminator will guide Active guided missiles? Orekh will not provide target cuing or mcg it will the job of Fregat. Currently the way Shtil works is Fregat will provide targeting location to the missile and one or two Orekh FCR will be assigned to the target. Orekh will then provide illumination and Keep in mind Sa-17 has capability to get mcg from air search radars though I am not sure shtil/Fregat has that. Also Orekh FCR are quite dated and have range of only 30 or so km one of the reasons shtil-1 are handicapped with lower range than land based systems.

As I said before I am not comparing the functionality of Fregat and Sampson what I am saying rpm for Fregat is simply not sufficient to serve as target tracking and guidance radar for ARHM. Also It is entirely possible Fregat doesn't have mcg capabilities which means any active guided missiles are limited to point defense ( similar to vl mica).

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Karan M » 22 Dec 2018 04:02

Arun Prakash is stuck in an India of a bygone era and singing a dirge of an era that has passed.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby ShauryaT » 22 Dec 2018 05:09

While full political mileage must be drawn from this significant technological accomplishment, there is need to avoid hyperbolic statements that may erode the credibility of the nuclear deterrent.

Thank you to retd CNS Admiral Arun Prakash for penning a sensible article. He knows what he is talking of. The only area where I may offer a re-assessment is the quoted figure of 10-12 SSBN and SSN fleet in 50 years. I would argue India's Sub fleet should be all nuclear and the numbers should be in the range of 30 in 50 years. 24 SSN's and 6 SSBN's. But, his figures are probably more realistic for India and the pace at which it is going, mine are aspirational.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Philip » 22 Dec 2018 09:44

A mix of N and non- N subs is the way to go.We can't afford a fully N- sub fleet and smaller AIP boats are better for the littorals.If a non- AIP Kilo can " sink" an LA class SSN, it proves a huge point.

Secondly, we would be able to acquire 3 AIP subs for the price of one N-sub.The IN should plan for a sub fleet of a min. of 24 conv. boats , 6 SSBNs 4 SSGNs ( leased Akulas) and 6+ smaller SSNs.The SSGNs with their load of 40+ missiles and torpefoes , will complement the smaller SSNs, primarily meant to track and exterminate enemy N-subs, esp.PLAN SSBNs.Eventually a fleet of 10 to 12 SSNs could replace the leased Akulas which could still have extended leases or bought out if it was found worthwhile and costeffective.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 22 Dec 2018 10:22

John wrote:Austin I am lost what you are trying to say Orekh a illuminator will guide Active guided missiles? Orekh will not provide target cuing or mcg it will the job of Fregat.


Orekh is both a PD and CW illumination radar it can guide any missile as long as the missile is integrated with it , Orekh can also provide target cuing but its range will be limited and its FOV would be more narrower cone compared to a MFCR like fregat , orekh is a more specialised radar but in case of failure of fregat it can back it up for AD role but with limited in range and tracking ability albeit providing high quality tracks compared to fregat , If SAMPSON gets knocked off then its a single point of failure.

Active Guided missile only going active in the last 15-20 % of their entire flight range depending on target size it is tracking also the band used on missile rf becuase a missile has limited FOV radar and also limited in ECCM/ECM capability compared to those big radars on ships for the rest 80 % the ships radar most of the tracking , illumination and MCG for the missile.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 23 Dec 2018 15:05

Indian Navy's 'Information Fusion Centre' Now Open. Here's What It'll Do
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian- ... do-1966738

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 24 Dec 2018 22:56

Exclusive: We can match China in the Indian Ocean region, says Navy chief Sunil Lanba

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/inte ... 2018-11-17

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby John » 25 Dec 2018 03:21

Austin wrote:
John wrote:Austin I am lost what you are trying to say Orekh a illuminator will guide Active guided missiles? Orekh will not provide target cuing or mcg it will the job of Fregat.


Orekh is both a PD and CW illumination radar it can guide any missile as long as the missile is integrated with it , Orekh can also provide target cuing but its range will be limited and its FOV would be more narrower cone compared to a MFCR like fregat , orekh is a more specialised radar but in case of failure of fregat it can back it up for AD role but with limited in range and tracking ability albeit providing high quality tracks compared to fregat , If SAMPSON gets knocked off then its a single point of failure.

Active Guided missile only going active in the last 15-20 % of their entire flight range depending on target size it is tracking also the band used on missile rf becuase a missile has limited FOV radar and also limited in ECCM/ECM capability compared to those big radars on ships for the rest 80 % the ships radar most of the tracking , illumination and MCG for the missile.


You are saying Orekh can tracking targets? if Fregat is knocked out you lose all target tracking capability and positiv is not integrated with Shtil.

Anyway as I said earlier simply throwing active guided missile without fixing shtil main limitations which is Orekh and Fregat will solve nothing other than burn a whole in navys wallet, you need sensor suite similar to Gorshkov class IMO. It's shame Redut is not being offered for export.

There is good reason IN turned down proposed VL Shtil proposal for vikramaditya and choose to wait and get Barak-8 during major refit.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby kit » 25 Dec 2018 04:51

Austin wrote:Exclusive: We can match China in the Indian Ocean region, says Navy chief Sunil Lanba

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/inte ... 2018-11-17


that statement seems like Chinese power in IOR = IN , in a region which is India's backyard .Not good.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Rakesh » 25 Dec 2018 07:16

Saar, you read that wrong :) Because the Chief also states that in the South China Sea, the dice is loaded in their favour. The IN can hold its own against the PLAN in the Indian Ocean. Have faith in the Navy, after all it is your Navy.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 25 Dec 2018 08:52

John wrote:You are saying Orekh can tracking targets? if Fregat is knocked out you lose all target tracking capability and positiv is not integrated with Shtil.


Orekh is H/I band Tracking and FC radar in CW and other modes , If Fregat is lost then Orekh can still do the tracking but at reduced range 70 km or less and far lesser number of targets to track ( in lower single digit )and nor more than 1 or 2 to guide the SAM.

Same goes for garpun bal if Fregat is lost Garpun bal can track and guide surface targets both active and passive mode tracking.

These ships have built in redudancy in Radar for SAM and Surface tracking plus they are placed in way that loosing the primary radar would not affect their capability.

Modern ships have AESA on single super structure for stealth reason if the super structure is damaged and they are so closely placed they would loose complete capability
Anyway as I said earlier simply throwing active guided missile without fixing shtil main limitations which is Orekh and Fregat will solve nothing other than burn a whole in navys wallet, you need sensor suite similar to Gorshkov class IMO. It's shame Redut is not being offered for export.


All systems have their limitations , SARH is still used on many USN ship and ships of Nato country , Even Redut or Aster has its limitations. The navy works on tactics and integration to over come limitations of weapon system.

There is good reason IN turned down proposed VL Shtil proposal for vikramaditya and choose to wait and get Barak-8 during major refit.


VL Shtil with ARH just got ready few months back , When Virkamaditya was commisioned much less when its weapons system would have been frozen VLS Shtil-1 was no where ready for trails much less a successful one which took almost 2 years to complete.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 25 Dec 2018 08:54

Rakesh wrote:Saar, you read that wrong :) Because the Chief also states that in the South China Sea, the dice is loaded in their favour. The IN can hold its own against the PLAN in the Indian Ocean. Have faith in the Navy, after all it is your Navy.


Exactly , IN Chief clearly states we are the King of Indian Ocean :D We track almost every Chinese Submarine and surface ships entering in IOR region

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Postby John » 25 Dec 2018 09:50


Orekh is H/I band Tracking and FC radar in CW and other modes , If Fregat is lost then Orekh can still do the tracking but at reduced range 70 km or less and far lesser number of targets to track ( in lower single digit )and nor more than 1 or 2 to guide the SAM.


First of all Orekh has range of around 35 km and I still don't follow you how will it track targets? It's not designed to rotate continuously at high rpm only occasionally. Please cite your sources.


VL Shtil with ARH just got ready few months back , When Virkamaditya was commisioned much less when its weapons system would have been frozen VLS Shtil-1 was no where ready for trails much less a successful one which took almost 2 years to complete



I don't understand your point, VL Shtil was offered after IN rejected Kashtan-m for Vikramaditya. Vl-shtil was rejected as well and navy would fit Barak-8 in mid life refit in spite of higher cost incurred and Vikram going without ads for couple of years ( barak-1 fitted for short term). It was likely done because latter was far superior system. There was article that was discussed here that chronicled that in much depth during the vikramaditya saga.

I understand you want defend everything Russian but simply throwing in New missile is not going fix Shtil drawback. There is a good reason apart from one class meant for export russia is no rush to induct them and moved on to Redut even for smaller vessels.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby rkhanna » 26 Dec 2018 16:48

Singha wrote:Indian Navy's 'Information Fusion Centre' Now Open. Here's What It'll Do
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian- ... do-1966738



Maybe time to redefine SDRE :wink:

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 27 Dec 2018 16:28

Two sailors dead in mishap at Kochi naval base

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Postby John » 27 Dec 2018 19:28

Two navy personal die due to aircraft hanger collapse at INS Garuda :(
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/navy-personnel-die-in-kochi-naval-base-accident-5511738/

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby chetak » 27 Dec 2018 22:00

Austin wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Saar, you read that wrong :) Because the Chief also states that in the South China Sea, the dice is loaded in their favour. The IN can hold its own against the PLAN in the Indian Ocean. Have faith in the Navy, after all it is your Navy.


Exactly , IN Chief clearly states we are the King of Indian Ocean :D We track almost every Chinese Submarine and surface ships entering in IOR region


Its the third largest ocean, right?? how exactly would this be possible??

not every cheeni sub will enter the Indian Ocean via the known choke points, no??

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby uddu » 29 Dec 2018 18:59

Latest update on the progress of Vikrant. Can you guys figure out what's there in the timesheet posted.
https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 2576873473
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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby chola » 29 Dec 2018 20:07

Nice! The top row are the three years — 2018, 2019, 2020. Second row months.

First column is the components of each major subsystems I guess — I could make out HVAC, Aviation Equipment, Deck Machinery, Air pressure testing. The top subsystem with the longest timelines for components, I can’t make out.

Anyways, it looks like handover by first quarter of 2020?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Austin » 30 Dec 2018 23:43

Navy's future growth based on pillars of indigenisation, self-reliance: Sunil Lanba

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby chola » 31 Dec 2018 10:37

Austin wrote:Navy's future growth based on pillars of indigenisation, self-reliance: Sunil Lanba

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ar ... aign=cppst


Of all our services, the Admiral has the most right to be proud about the indigenous and self-reliant quality of his.

And their ambition for the country is matched by their confidence IN the country. If the MOD approves the 65K ton CATOBAR, the IN will be reaching for the very top tier with local manufacturing. No “light” this and that like with the IAF while reserving the medium and heavy top flights for phoren screwdrivergiri. Or like the IA scouring the world for rifles and tanks.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Rakesh » 01 Jan 2019 05:27

When pictures like these come (and they come VERY rarely), enjoy them in all their glory!!! The missiles shown below are the P-15 Termit ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-15_Termit

INS Trata ---> a missile battery base of the Indian Navy at Mumbai tasked with the coastal defense of Maharashtra and Gujarat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Trata

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Double missile loading (one on a coastal battery and another aboard a corvette)...

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby JTull » 02 Jan 2019 03:01

Rakesh wrote:When pictures like these come (and they come VERY rarely), enjoy them in all their glory!!! The missiles shown below are the P-15 Termit ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-15_Termit

Double missile loading (one on a coastal battery and another aboard a corvette)...

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Could it be that the land based launchers have been used to transport the missile to the docks to be loaded onto the corvette?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Shrinivasan » 02 Jan 2019 03:41

Land based launchers are stand alone launchers... like modern TELs... these Anti Ship missiles might be old but still pack a punch. They have their old reload vehicles and need a dedicated crane to lift these beasts and load them onto the launchers (2 in each truck in twin inclined launchers, I see that the same / similar cranes are used for loading the missiles onto Missile boats/corvettes.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 02 Jan 2019 10:09

I hope we can replace the P-15 Termit's with land based Brahmos squadrons for coastal defense. Must be in progress thats why the Navy is showing pics of these.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Philip » 02 Jan 2019 16:49

The same vehicles, cranes, etc. could possibly be used/modified for newer missiles, though long-life canisterisation is the order of the day.These old Termits pack a huge punch though why they're still in service.
BMos may have alreadt been inducted for coastal battery use. With the increasinv number of missiles aboard Paki ships and subs we need an effective layered anti-missile/ air defence network plus AEW assets, to protect our naval bases, ports and industrial assets along the coast.


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