Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 21:01

holy crap. and this after another smaller fire in MDL on a kilo refit for optronics scope and indian sonar.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Philip » 21 Jun 2019 21:06

Something is rotten in the state of MDL.One must seriously examine whether there is a saboteur network in the yard.Whatever the reason for this fire, safety standards seem v.poor .8 fire tenders pressed into action.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 21:08

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#UPDATE: One person is suspected to be trapped inside the ship. Fire is confined on the second and the third floor of the ship. Fire fighting operations underway.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 21:09

5 fire tenders and 4 water tankers are present at the spot.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sum » 21 Jun 2019 21:54

Im sorry but this is just a scary amount of incidents in a single establishment and is a serious embarrassment.

There is no other way of sugarcoating this

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sudeepj » 21 Jun 2019 22:02

Philip wrote:Something is rotten in the state of MDL.One must seriously examine whether there is a saboteur network in the yard.Whatever the reason for this fire, safety standards seem v.poor .8 fire tenders pressed into action.


It may be something as simple as piling up oily rags.. Safety culture in India is sadly lacking. We treat safety as an incident and not a process. As in, if no accident happened, that means no safety violations happened and no unnecessary risks were taken. You can see this on our roads, how we treat our drinking water supply, sanitation, medicine, electric supply.. etc. etc. etc. This attitude doesnt stop at the factory gate and is carried into critical areas as well. When people are dealing with dangerous/energetic materials, this often has grave consequences with loss of life.

We need to develop a safety culture in India, where safety is a number 1 concern and is a process.. a sequence of procedures you follow, that will always keep you safe.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby yensoy » 21 Jun 2019 22:11

^^^^ where is the "like" button?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 22:29

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Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL): A major fire incident took place on Yard 12704 (Visakhapatnam), the first class of Project 15 B during operations in tank at MDL today at 4 PM which was brought under control by 7 PM.
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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 22:39

NDTV has learned that the Indian Navy plans to deploy an officer and 2 sailors onboard the Indian crude oil tankers operating in the Persian Gulf. These teams would escort Indian crude oil tankers in and out of the Straits of Hormuz. Indian Navy teams will fly onto the tankers if they have a helicopter deck or embark them by boat.

Indian crude oil carriers, around five to eight in number, including Ultra Large Crude Carriers enter and exit the Persian Gulf every day and play a critical role towards meeting India's energy security requirements. Around 63.29% of India's crude oil flows come from the Gulf with Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait and till recently Iran being key partner nations in the region.

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Movement of all these ships is being monitored from the Navy's Information Fusion Centre. In picture: Very Large Crude Carrier

The Director General of Shipping, the Indian Ship Owners Association and the Indian Navy are meeting this afternoon to discuss the situation. On June 13 and June 16, the Director General of Shipping had issued two advisories to all Indian flagged vessels operating in the Strait of Hormuz to take appropriate protection measures. The movement of all these ships is being monitored from the Navy's Information Fusion Centre in Gurugram, Haryana.

The Indian Navy destroyer INS Chennai and Offshore Patrol Vessel INS Sunayna are mission deployed in the region presently and Indian Navy aircraft are also involved in aerial surveillance in the region.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby prat.patel » 21 Jun 2019 23:55

sudeepj wrote:
Philip wrote:Something is rotten in the state of MDL.One must seriously examine whether there is a saboteur network in the yard.Whatever the reason for this fire, safety standards seem v.poor .8 fire tenders pressed into action.


It may be something as simple as piling up oily rags.. Safety culture in India is sadly lacking. We treat safety as an incident and not a process. As in, if no accident happened, that means no safety violations happened and no unnecessary risks were taken. You can see this on our roads, how we treat our drinking water supply, sanitation, medicine, electric supply.. etc. etc. etc. This attitude doesnt stop at the factory gate and is carried into critical areas as well. When people are dealing with dangerous/energetic materials, this often has grave consequences with loss of life.

We need to develop a safety culture in India, where safety is a number 1 concern and is a process.. a sequence of procedures you follow, that will always keep you safe.


I may be off mark here; but would rather go on to state that the problem is more acute in place like Mumbai. I am from Mumbai and can attest to a fact that Mumbai has always had the strongest "chalta hai" attitude in entire country.
While this same attitude has made the city and the Mumbaikars very resilient to set backs and coming up with quick fixes in face of adversity and it makes us flourish in fields like IT and Finance; it will always be a bane in critical high safety work environments like defense manufacturing :cry:
MDL has a bad record in safety and it could very well be because its in Mumbai!
Other shipyards probably have a far better record as compared to MDL.

Just a theory - Please ignore the post if the data suggests otherwise and I am way off the mark!

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Prithwiraj » 22 Jun 2019 00:00

Totally depressing and pathetic frequency of these incidents.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Vips » 22 Jun 2019 02:18

Something is not right about these "incidents". There is a concerted effort being undertaken by vested elements after Bharat varsh elected Modi again.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 22 Jun 2019 06:15

Last incident was in march 2018 when a officer lost his life during a gas leak on ins kolkata per ibnlive

Yesterdays fire was due to grinding operation inside atank of some sort on the ship

No clarity on damage so far. No top shipyard official was there to handle the media

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

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Singha wrote:ANI

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Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited: One contract worker unfortunately succumbed possibly due to asphyxia and burn injury and another suffered minor burns. An inquiry has been constituted to ascertain the cause of fire.ANI added,
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Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL): A major fire incident took place on Yard 12704 (Visakhapatnam), the first class of Project 15 B during operations in tank at MDL today at 4 PM which was brought under control by 7 PM.
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I saw the tweet. It was a sickening feeling like the bottom fell out of my stomach. Like the feeling I had after the crane toppled around the P17A at GRSE. The PSUs will kill me yet.

Seriously, the greatest class surface warship India had ever built and the lead vessel is already marred by a goddam fire.

What the hell is going on these days?

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby VikramA » 23 Jun 2019 09:00

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 9903878.cm
says no delay in visakhapatnum's induction.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sum » 23 Jun 2019 10:46

I call BS on this "no delay" statement by estemeed MDL babus

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 23 Jun 2019 13:08

Meetoo saar
They will try best to hush things up and keep it from the public eye

100s of cabinets of back end electronics for the weapons and sensors are inside the ship
Miles of pipes wires and pumps

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby wig » 23 Jun 2019 15:31

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 913418.cms


post balakot PNS Saad the Agosta class Pak Submarine vanished from Pak waters. The anti submarine specialist warships and aircraft were positioned to help in the hunt for the missing pak submarine
India was continuously keeping an eye on the movement of the Pakistani military but after Indian Air Force hit the Jaish terrorist factory in Balakot,
one of the most advanced Pakistani Agosta-class submarines - PNS Saad - vanished from the Pakistani waters, a senior government source said.
Having accounted for all other surface warships and all the submarines, the vanishing act done by the PNS Saad fitted with Air Independent Propulsion (a technology which allows the submarines to stay for a longer period under the water than normal submarines) swung the entire Indian Navy swung into action.


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All precautionary measures had been taken by the Navy to ensure that even if the PNS Saad had entered Indian waters, all necessary actions were to be taken to force it to come on the surface, and if required take military punitive action against it, the sources said. Nuclear submarine INS Chakra had also been deployed in an aggressive posture along the Pakistani waters and instructed to keep looking for the missing Pakistani submarine. The Indian Navy's latest induction, Scorpene-class submarine INS Kalvari, was also deployed in the hunt while their posture kept threatening Pakistan against doing any misadventure in the Indian waters.
As the days progressed, the Indian Navy kept expanding its area of search for the Pakistani boat and satellites were also used to locate it, meanwhile, the force was almost certain that the Pakistanis may have kept it hidden somewhere else. After 21 days of an extensive search, the Indian Navy finally located the PNS Saad on the western side of Pakistan. It was sent there for hiding, to ensure a covert capability in case of extension in hostilities in the aftermath of the Balakot airstrikes.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby williams » 23 Jun 2019 21:40

to ensure a covert capability

Or scared to get anywhere near the zone of operation and get sunk by IN covertly :D

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 23 Jun 2019 23:01

Another point being missed from the report, that PNS Saad was the only operational sub of the Pak Navy

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby kit » 24 Jun 2019 00:54

williams wrote:
to ensure a covert capability

Or scared to get anywhere near the zone of operation and get sunk by IN covertly :D


the response to a second balakot should include the covert sinking of a PN sub / "terrorist" knocking off their Erieye

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Sid » 24 Jun 2019 08:09

Aditya_V wrote:Another point being missed from the report, that PNS Saad was the only operational sub of the Pak Navy


Probably this is the only sub they may have capable of firing Barbur SLCM. And all others must have been under constant tracking.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sum » 24 Jun 2019 09:43

IIRC, right within 1-2 days of the strikes, IN had leaked a report in many newspaper about how PN had just 1 operational sub and rest were under refit/repairs.

So, I think there was only 1 actual sub operating

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 24 Jun 2019 09:52

Sid wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Another point being missed from the report, that PNS Saad was the only operational sub of the Pak Navy


Probably this is the only sub they may have capable of firing Barbur SLCM. And all others must have been under constant tracking.



Here are reports about only 1 Paki operational Sub

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lone-pak-submarine-on-patrol-as-4-undergo-repair/story-oBr1gGXTZODCVtdHsDBAPI.html

a) Why do you think the French will be extra generous to allow Pakis to fire Chinese Missiles instead of Exocet and
b) being Chinese origin the missile is probably Russian standard 533mm*24 ft vs 533mm 21 ft Nato standard, have the French found a unique solution only to accommodate the Pakis
c) Do you think the Chinese would have given their source codes so French Battle Management system can fire these missiles.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 24 Jun 2019 10:55

the onesoln could be a clamshell or sliding hangar on the deck of babur with a completely separate fcs and a pack of 4 missiles which can be inclined and launched as on the ground. any pics of babur would reveal that.

has been done before on uss growler and nike regulus missiles. its a museum on hudson river nyc.

it would not need internal work or hull cutting so chinese could do it.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 24 Jun 2019 12:32

i have actually been onboard this submarine btw. the two bulky missiles slide out of the garage thing and elevate on that launch rail.

todays baburs will be far more compact and quad or tri packed.

in days of youthful vigor my hobby was visiting military museums
- uss growler and a old a/c carrier, some tarantul boats, m60, t72 in nyc hudson
- a collection of battleships and a sub in fall river, MA - the USS massachusetts which sank the jean bart vichy french ship is there - awesome to stand on the long tapering rising foredeck and look at the huge cannon turrets. each is as big as a house.
- uss nautilus the first nukular power sub in mystic CT & attached museum mainly torpedoes
- uss pampanito in SFO
- uss midway carrier museum in SDiego

obviously the crown jewels like the CVN parking lot in san diego and new port news may open for visit only on special days.

and the crown++ jewel the SSN line in mystic CT is never open to visitors. so one has to curtail expectations.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby mody » 24 Jun 2019 14:23

Aditya_V wrote:
Sid wrote:
Probably this is the only sub they may have capable of firing Barbur SLCM. And all others must have been under constant tracking.



Here are reports about only 1 Paki operational Sub

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lone-pak-submarine-on-patrol-as-4-undergo-repair/story-oBr1gGXTZODCVtdHsDBAPI.html

a) Why do you think the French will be extra generous to allow Pakis to fire Chinese Missiles instead of Exocet and
b) being Chinese origin the missile is probably Russian standard 533mm*24 ft vs 533mm 21 ft Nato standard, have the French found a unique solution only to accommodate the Pakis
c) Do you think the Chinese would have given their source codes so French Battle Management system can fire these missiles.


The Babur missile is a copy of the Tomahawk. Wiki gives the length as 6.2 meters. That's just less then 21 feet. Can be fitted in Agosta's TT tubes.
Being able to fire it from the sub though is another mater.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 24 Jun 2019 19:55

any sub launched CM or ASM needs a underwater module that drives it to the surface and away from the sub a kind of small solid fuel booster that pushes it out of the water until its jet engine can ignite and air scoop starts to work. its more complex than air or ground launch.
https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/bg ... el-1173377

the exocet SM39 / sub launch harpoon the pakis use will also have it.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sudhan » 27 Jun 2019 14:29

MARCOS deployed in Persian Gulf

Nitin Gokhale says MARCOS deployed to protect / escort indian Oil carriers

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Singha » 27 Jun 2019 17:17

manu pubby says damage to P15B was confined to one compartment per his sources and damage not that severe.
not much can be said until its revealed what got damaged.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Prem Kumar » 28 Jun 2019 09:23

1) Is Babur nuke capable?
2) Have the Pakis tested an Agosta launch of Babur?

If so, there might be another angle to this. Pakis, with help from the Chinese, might use their lone operational sub as a 2nd strike platform. There might be more to this than meets the eye.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby chola » 28 Jun 2019 10:04

The SSN/SSBN project is progressing smoothly. Makes me wonder why we even need an expensive phoren based SSK program at all. The US has an all nuclear fleet.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/work-begins-on-indias-next-gen-nuclear-powered-submarines/amp_articleshow/69921014.cms

Work begins on India’s next gen nuclear-powered submarines

The INS Arihant and Chakra are the two nuclear-powered submarines currently in service with the Navy.

By Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | Updated: Jun 24, 2019, 11.43 AM IST

Work has started on the Rs 1 lakh crore project to produce next generation nuclear-powered submarines for the Indian Navy, with a defence public sector unit working on a special alloy for the hull. A scale model is likely to be tested soon as part of the design process.

The project to build advanced nuclear submarines designed for longrange underwater patrols and armed with conventional weapons has been granted over Rs 100 crore seed money by the government for the initial phase with officials predicting a development period that is expected to stretch beyond 2025. The plan to build six nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) kicked off in 2015 when the NDA government gave a go ahead to a long-pending project for the Indian Navy. Then Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba confirmed in 2017 that the project is underway.


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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby nam » 28 Jun 2019 15:13

Three reasons:

1. SSK are cheaper than SSN, allows us to augment numbers. Khan can afford all SSN, bcoz.. it is Khan.
2. SSK are quieter than SSN, with fuel cells tech it is even more difficult to track.
3. SSK are smaller than SSN, allows for litoral warfare. SSN have trouble going very near shoreline.. remember the brand new british SSN getting stuck..

We can argue about foreign vs desi..

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby sum » 28 Jun 2019 15:30

IIRC, these are just the initial baby steps and we are a looong way away from the actual product being anywhere close to be in final usable form

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Philip » 28 Jun 2019 19:14

Adm.Ronnie Pereira, great chief- when offered a Sov. Charlie SSGN politely declined saying we must first walk then run.Initiated the first Indian sub-building programme for HDW U-209s, MDL took aeons to build just 2, but did so and acquired the skills.The extra subs to be built were derailed by Weepy Singh and allegations of bribery, found decades later by the courts to have no factual basis.HDW skills learnt unceremoniously dumped, valuable machinery sold as scrap and we reinvented the wheel with ultra- expensive Scorpenes which have stung us with s 5 yr. delay, cost overruns and recently the second sub 's induction refused by the IN for 30+ faults and excess UW noise.

So one can see how far we have to come to design and build a non- N boat not forgetting that all our non-AIP Scorpenes will be at a disadvantage against Pak's Agosta 90Bs and Chin Yuans both of which have AIP systems, French MESMA and Swedish Stirling systems.Pak would have the experience of operating and evaluating two western AIP systems. Our desi AIP system has yet to be tested aboard a sub and thus is unproven.
Why we have not in the last few decades built experimental subs or use older ones to test out new systems like AIP beats me.It was way back in time when old Foxtrots were used as test beds for our UW sonars.Even UW launched BMos has been successfully fired from an UW pontoon, but there is no sub available to fit BMos on to it! A great opportunity was missed with the ongoing Kilo upgrades, nearing its end.At least one sub could've had a BMos plug.
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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Vivek K » 29 Jun 2019 00:30

Agree with that! Why is there little stomach for risk taking? Indians want success guaranteed and therefore get left behind.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby Philip » 29 Jun 2019 06:08

Look at the case of Iran.Unable to acquire the latest milware thanks to US sanctions, it has built approx. 30 small subs of its own design and dozens of high speed small craft armed with anti- ship missiles, both deadly in the confined Gulf waters. It has also resurrected the legacy F-5 in a new avatar.These may not be cutting edge
but are indigenous and can be built in quick time at low cost.

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Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Postby abhik » 29 Jun 2019 09:54

In other news the South Koreans last year launched their first indigenous 3000t+ SSK. Here's a 3 phase plan that is actually working.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_ ... ne_program


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