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Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

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Postby krishna_krishna » 12 Jul 2018 07:24

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R garu, I was able to find the records for the death from MD but only doubt in my mind is , is that the same guy with no name change ? , however I also stumbled upon a recent interview of Amar Bhushan (Chief investigation officer of RAW for this case), I have pasted my summary of his entire book on the episode "Escape to nowhere" in the earlier thread for people who do not have the book and interested. I say its a must read. He confirmed in this article that he is indeed with 72, I am pasting relevant paragraphs :

By way of deception: The making and unmaking of a spy

" Cut to June 2017, to a quiet suburb in Domlur, Bengaluru. The gentleman who opens the door is tall and strapping, bearing the definite traces of military or police service. This is Amar Bhushan, the R&AW operative turned fiction writer, whose newest book, The Zero-Cost Mission and The Wily Agent, was recently put out in stores. In his first book, Escape to Nowhere, Bhushan presents a thinly-veiled fictional account of the operation mounted against Rabinder Singh and his much-publicised escape. The complaisant gentleman who sits before us was also the Chief Investigating Officer in the Rabinder Singh case. "

"Back to the story of Rabinder Singh, however. The mission might have been perceived as a colossal failure, according to the mainstream media, at least. Bhushan's response, however, is surprising. "It was a great success! We got exactly what we wanted!" The affable, humble, generous-to-a-fault Singh had been known for his propensity to ask questions. "He would walk up to various officials and say things like, 'Do you know if Rajapakshe will win the election? Have you gathered intelligence? Have you briefed the U.S. Embassy'?" Bhushan recalls.

Startlingly, none of this gave rise to suspicion, for Singh's lavish parties, which drew top intelligence and IPS officers, brought him much popularity within the organisation. It was an agent from Karnataka who, his suspicions aroused, began asking questions about Rabinder Singh"

Besides, what if we brought him in and filed a case only to have him acquitted by the court? He would have remained in Delhi and continued being a mole, no doubt."

"The options before Singh were clear: Run away and disappear or confess and "let the organisation finish you off." Singh, needless to say, chose the former." He died last year, Bhushan informs us, in total ignominy, having been abandoned by the CIA and left without a passport or even refugee status."

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifesty ... a-spy.html

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby chetak » 12 Jul 2018 09:29

Things are not all well in the independent socialist republic of trinamul.

Chinese drug factories in Indian territory?? What next?? A secret CPEC through west bengal??

Have the BSF, IB and the CID given up in bengal??

Chinese Were Running Illegal Drug Factory In Bengal That None Knew About


Chinese Were Running Illegal Drug Factory In Bengal That None Knew About

by Jaideep Mazumdar
Jul 11, 2018,

Snapshot
How is it that Chinese presence in a sensitive border district like Murshidabad has gone undetected for so long?


State authorities in Madhupur in West Bengal’s Murshidabad district, which borders Bangladesh, have just woken up to an illegal drug manufacturing unit that has been running under their nose for over three years now.

The arrest of five Chinese nationals, by Government Railway Police (GRP) personnel, who were seen moving around suspiciously at the Kolkata railway station, has led to the discovery of the illegal drug factory being operated at Madhupur since 2014. The factory is now suspected to have also been involved in the production of amphetamine, a dangerous synthetic drug. It has also come to light that there are 30 Chinese nationals in a backward pocket of Murshidabad ‘trading’ in human hair and cellphones.

The said factory was set up on a 2.61 lakh square foot of land at Madhupur, which is just a few kilometers from the international border with Bangladesh, in 2014 and had always been shrouded in secrecy. The land belongs to a member of the Madhupur gram panchayat Boju Sheikh, who is also a local Trinamool Congress leader. Operations in the factory were shut down suddenly a few months ago.

The factory was discovered by Bengal’s Criminal Investigation Department (CID) quite by chance. The arrest of Chinese nationals occurred on the night of 29 June. “They looked like Chinese and when we asked them where they were headed to, they tried to run away. We arrested them and a search of their suitcases unearthed some tablets packed very neatly in 27 plastic packets. They turned out to be Chinese nationals with valid travel documents. We handed them over to the CID,” said a GRP officer.

Narcotics cell experts have confirmed that the tablets were amphetamine tablets worth about Rs 40 crore. The Chinese men, aged between 30 years and 37 years, also had mobile phones, 60 credit and debit cards, and some cash on them. Only one of the five, identified as Wang Xiao Dong, could speak a bit of English and the CID had a lot of difficulty getting information out of him. Dong was uncooperative and refused to answer any questions, even claiming at one time that the suitcases from which the drugs were recovered did not belong to them.

A further search of their belongings led to the discovery of two train tickets from Belganga (in Murshidabad) to Kolkata. Confronted with this, and after sustained interrogation, Dong finally led the CID sleuths to the shut factory in Madhupur on 4 July. Another 1.9kg of amphetamine tablets were found in the factory along with some Chinese medicines and equipment like syringe pumps and grinding machines.

The factory is surrounded by high walls and had armed private security guards who would chase away locals coming too close to the property. Some locals who used to work there say that they were asked very strictly to stick to their designated workstations and the factory had some rooms that were always kept closed and to which only the Chinese had access. The factory used to procure jute stalk from local farmers at good prices and it was believed that they were making activated carbon for export to China. But no export documents have been found. Incidentally, activated carbon is used to treat overdoses of amphetamine and other drugs.

On Tuesday (10 July 2018), a team of sleuths from the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and India’s Narcotics Control Bureau (NCB) flew down from Delhi to interrogate the five Chinese men. But not much headway has been reportedly made and the Chinese continue to maintain that the factory in Madhupur was being used to make only activated carbon. “But the major question is, why would the Chinese need to set up a factory in such a clandestine manner in a remote area along the Indo-Bangladesh border. Bengal has been seeking Chinese investments and would have been happy to grant all requisite permissions to set up a factory manufacturing activated carbon for export. And why such a factory in such an area that is far away from ports and airports. There is much more to this than what the Chinese have revealed,” said a police officer.

But this is not all. Enquiries by the state CID has revealed that there are 30-odd Chinese nationals who stay in Murshidabad’s poverty-stricken, backward, and remote Beldanga area. “Though they have valid travel documents and claim to be trading in cellphones and human hair, we are carrying out detailed investigations. Beldanga is the most unlikeliest of places for some 30 Chinese nationals to be operating out of. There is definitely something fishy here,” said the police officer.

What is appalling, however, is that Chinese presence in a sensitive border district like Murshidabad has gone undetected for so long. “This represents a horrible and shameful failure on the part of the state police and the intelligence apparatus. An illegal factory ran for more than three years on a large plot of land and the state administration knew nothing about it. Thirty Chinese nationals are staying and ‘trading’ in Murshidabad and it is only now that the state administration has come to know of it. Nothing can be more shameful than this. And this represents a total breakdown of the intelligence-gathering and surveillance machinery in the state,” said a retired Intelligence Bureau officer.

Experts suspect that the Chinese could have been operating drug manufacturing units in Murshidabad. “Slipping the drugs through the porous border into Bangladesh, from where it would be sent back to China and Southeast Asian countries, could have been the reason behind locating the factory in Madhupur. There may be more such factories in the district; it is quite unbelievable that as many as 30 Chinese nationals are staying in Beldanga area and engaged in some innocuous trading activity,” said a former police chief of Murshidabad.

The failure to detect such operations also hints at local political patronage, without which the Chinese nationals could not have been running such unchecked business for such a long period.

Jaideep Mazumdar is an associate editor at Swarajya.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby RoyG » 12 Jul 2018 20:14

chetak wrote:Things are not all well in the independent socialist republic of trinamul.

Chinese drug factories in Indian territory?? What next?? A secret CPEC through west bengal??

Have the BSF, IB and the CID given up in bengal??

Chinese Were Running Illegal Drug Factory In Bengal That None Knew About

You have to look at the long term plan of China and Pakistan. They can't crack the Indian state from outside or by using their traditional proxies. In the last decade there has been a switch to narcotics. The number 1 exporter of Fentanyl to the US is China and I see what sort of destruction this is causing for patients and the health system overall. These two have learned well from the British.

If I were China, I would try to facilitate the push of more Rohingya to the border areas and get the small kids to be couriers for heroin. Try to build a self sustaining base of operations for the migrants using the narco cash and begin bankrolling all of these TMC, Left, Islamist parties in West Bengal and Assam. Simultaneously I would draft some naxalites and open them up to the larger Indian market. Right now they are being hit bad but they can use their existing networks in the cities to push drugs on college campuses and other areas.
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Postby Kati » 16 Jul 2018 10:41

Can we have some discussion on the topic of Rabinder being dumped by see eye yeh?
(Assuming that the article states the facts.)
Did massa see him as a useless liability later? Or, did he feed garbage to massa?

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Postby sum » 16 Jul 2018 10:51

^^ What if it is a false info fed by Indian agencies to show public and other potential collaborators that doing so will lead to such bad things? When in reality, Rabinder and other folks lived pretty decent lives and maybe did actually die in some mishap.

Of course, no one from US side would refute anything our agncies put out in public against any of the US agencies

In this field, one can never trust anything ( though i do fervently hope that the Indian story printed was true and he did suffer for his deeds)

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 16 Jul 2018 10:52

And we were seeing this Punjab as well, where Pakistan has pushed in Drugs. Ideally Pakjab should have very high drug usage.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby dinesha » 17 Jul 2018 21:50

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this kind of rumour mongering without even mentioning the source is not acceptable and akin to trolling.
just writing '-Twitter' is not a source. one might as well write 'some monkey with a phone'.
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Postby Neshant » 30 Jul 2018 08:03

very incompetent internal security in India if people can simply cross borders by the tens of thousands and engage in criminality.

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Postby Neshant » 30 Jul 2018 08:05

..and terrorism

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Rohingya terrorists open fire on Assam Rifles men at Indo-Myanmar border

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Postby pankajs » 31 Jul 2018 15:50

The Art And Craft of Espionage: In Conversation With Vikram Sood


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Postby Kati » 03 Aug 2018 11:26

Just following up on my much earlier post on deep Chinese penetration within the US system....

Chinese-American engineer charged with stealing GE technology
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The FBI said they arrested Xiaoqing Zheng, a General Electric engineer, and found a handbook explaining 'resources' China would people who provided it with technology (AFP Photo/VINCENT KESSLER)
Washington (AFP) - A Chinese-American engineer faces charges of stealing valuable technology from General Electric, sneaking it out hidden in a picture of the sunset to take to China, the US Justice Department said.

Xiaoqing Zheng, 56, a US citizen also believed to have Chinese nationality, was due to appear before a judge in Albany, New York on Thursday, a day after his arrest, according to federal prosecutors.

Following a four-year investigation, the FBI arrested Xiaoqing Zheng after searching his home and finding, among other things, a handbook detailing "resources" Beijing would grant to individuals providing certain technologies.

Zheng's arrest comes as President Donald Trump intensifies the trade war with Beijing, largely over complaints the country steals US technology or obliges American companies to share know-how in exchange for doing business in China.

Trump imposed punishing tariffs on tens of billions in Chinese imports and plans more to ratchet up the pressure on Beijing to correct the pervasive industrial espionage.

US investigators believe Zheng may have begun stealing thousands of files containing GE's industrial secrets as far back as 2014, according to court documents.

And Zheng worked for or owned Chinese companies dealing in the same technologies produced by GE Power, which produces and markets energy generation techniques around the world, the FBI found.

"The GE proprietary technologies on which Zheng works would have economic value to any of GE's business competitors," FBI Special Agent MD McDonald said in an affidavit.

GE monitored Zheng as he allegedly transferred files containing turbine technology to his personal email account while hiding the data within the binary code of a digital photograph of a sunset, a process known as "steganography," according to McDonald.

Following a search of Zheng's home in Niskayuna, New York, FBI agents said they retrieved the reward handbook and a passport showing five trips to China in the past two years.

FBI agents questioned Zheng on Wednesday and say he acknowledged taking GE's proprietary information using steganography on around five to 10 occasions.

Charged with a single count of theft of trade secrets, Zheng faces a maximum of 10 years in prison and a fine of $250,000 as well as three years of supervised release, although punishments are frequently imposed at less than that.

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Postby Kati » 19 Aug 2018 15:46

How China steals U.S. secrets
Yahoo Finance Aarthi Swaminathan and Michael B. KelleyYahoo FinanceAugust 18, 2018
China wants to steal U.S. secrets and is very good at doing so.

“China, from a counterintelligence perspective, represents the broadest, most pervasive, most threatening challenge we face as a country,” FBI Director Christopher Wray told the Aspen Security Forum in July.

A recent U.S. government report titled “Foreign Economic Espionage in Cyberspace” indicates how multifaceted China is when it comes to stealing American intellectual property and U.S. government secrets.

“China has expansive efforts in place to acquire U.S. technology to include sensitive trade secrets and proprietary information,” states the report by the National Counterintelligence and Security Center (NCSC). “It continues to use cyber espionage to support its strategic development goals — science and technology advancement, military modernization, and economic policy objectives.”

Here’s a look at how the U.S. views China’s strategic goals:


Source: National Counterintelligence and Security Center
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Spurce: NCSC, “Foreign Economic Espionage in Cyberspace”
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China hopes to further its strategic development goals by using cyber espionage to target “U.S. private industry, focusing on cleared defense contractors or IT and communications firms whose products and services support government and private sector networks worldwide,” the NCSC asserted.

Detailing tactics ranging from engaging academic collaborations to human espionage to hacking, the report shows how Beijing has invested considerable effort to acquire technological know-how from the U.S.

“We believe that China will continue to be a threat to U.S. proprietary technology and intellectual property through cyber-enabled means or other methods,” the report, which also examines Russia and Iran, concludes on China. “If this threat is not addressed, it could erode America’s long-term competitive economic advantage.”

Paul Moore, a former China analyst for the FBI, explained China’s spying mindset with an analogy:

“If a beach were a target, the Russians would send in a sub, frogmen would steal ashore in the dark of night and collect several buckets of sand and take them back to Moscow. The U.S. would send over satellites and produce reams of data. The Chinese would send in a thousand tourists, each assigned to collect a single grain of sand. When they returned, they would be asked to shake out their towels. And they would end up knowing more about the sand than anyone else.”

China has been stealing U.S. intellectual property for decades. Here are some of the recent espionage activities that we know of (organized by type of collection):

Intelligence Services
The most worrying of all is how the Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS) and military intelligence offices are involved in China’s technology acquisition efforts (in addition to foiling CIA spying efforts).

For example, earlier this year a former U.S. intelligence officer was charged with smuggling information about U.S. military and intelligence issues in exchange for money.

Ron Rockwell Hansen, who had served for 20 years in the U.S. Army (including a few months with the Defense Intelligence Agency), allegedly attended trade conferences on behalf of China and shared the information he had gathered with officials who were connected to Chinese intelligence.

Hansen’s case is just one of many where China targets U.S. citizens to procure U.S. defense secrets, from military aircraft to nuclear systems.


FILE PHOTO: A Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II fighter jet is seen in its hanger at Patuxent River Naval Air Station in Maryland, U.S. (REUTERS/Gary Cameron/File Photo)
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In cases where they can’t entice U.S. intelligence officials or insiders, China also engages in hacking — such as in the case of the F-35 fighter jets.

In 2015, according to documents provided by former U.S. National Security Agency contractor, Edward Snowden, it was revealed that Chinese hackers had stolen data on the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter jet from subcontractor Lockheed Martin (LMT).

The case — being one among many more — showed how Chinese hackers are using information mined from U.S. defense contractors to make their own weapons.

The F-35 was turned into China-made stealth fighters such as the J-31 and Chengdu J-20, which has serious national security implications.

Non-Traditional Collectors
According to the NCSC, China uses individuals with a primary profession in science or business to target and acquire U.S. technology.

For example, a General Electric (GE) engineer with ties to China was recently arrested and accused of stealing files related to proprietary power-turbine technology.

Xiaoqing Zheng, a U.S. citizen, was hired by GE to work in its power division in New York. In 2014, GE’s corporate security team detected that Zheng had copied more than 19,000 files from a GE–owned computer to an external storage device. He told GE officials that he had deleted the files — but then repeated the offense in 2017.

The FBI, which worked closely with GE on this case, said Zheng elaborately concealed his actions to avoid detection.


A cybersecurity expert monitors telecommunications traffic at a network operations center in a Verizon facility in Ashburn, Virginia. (REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst/Files)
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Zheng was arrested in early August 2018.

Silicon Valley, in particular, has become a den of foreign spies targeting various types of information, as detailed by Zach Dorfman in Politico.

“The Chinese just have vast resources,” Kathleen Puckett, who worked counterintelligence in the Bay Area from 1979 to 2007, told Dorfman. “They have all the time in the world, and all the patience in the world. Which is what you need more than anything.”

Last month, U.S. authorities arrested a former Apple Inc. engineer on charges of stealing driverless car secrets for a Chinese startup.

Joint Ventures (JV)
China also uses JVs to acquire technology and technical know-how, according to the report.

Joint ventures are collaborative in theory: Two companies work together to learn from each other’s best practices. But when you’re working with China, it gets murky.

If a foreign firm wants to enter certain industries in China, it usually needs to form a joint venture with a local partner.

And according to a paper by the National Bureau of Economic Research that looked at all international joint ventures in China from 1998 to 2007, the Chinese firms exploit those relationships to gain substantial knowledge from them, which could then be used to replicate the same product.

For example, in a 2017 survey by the U.S.–China Business Council, nearly 20% of American businesses said that they have been directly asked to transfer technology to a Chinese partner during negotiations.


Source: US-China Business Council 2017 member survey
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But it’s difficult to track these trends as “firms have an incentive to keep quiet about these things because part of the quid pro quo is to not complain about what they have to give up for market access,” Thomas Holmes, author of the NBER report, told Yahoo Finance.

Holmes highlighted a case involving German conglomerate Siemens (SIE.DE) as an example of a JV enabling theft of information.

In 2011, the chief executive of French engineering company Alstom (ALO.PA), Patrick Kron, suggested that Siemens may have inadvertently slipped technical know-how to Chinese companies through a high-speed trains partnership.

Kron said then that Alstom was reluctant to enter partnerships in China because he didn’t want to hand over “high-technology components” to Chinese business partners who could use them to turn around and compete against the same companies.

Alstom had previously asserted that 90% of the high-speed rail technology the Chinese are using is derived from their partnerships or equipment that foreign companies had developed.


CRH380 (China Railway High-speed) Harmony bullet trains are seen at a high-speed train maintenance base in Wuhan, Hubei province, early December 25, 2012.
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Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A)
In some cases, China seeks to buy companies outright that have the technology, facilities, and people that it desires. These sometimes end up as Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) cases, which has the ability to block deals.

But CFIUS has let cases slip through its far too wide fishnet.

Early last year, when a company called Avatar Integrated Systems declared bankruptcy, China swooped hoping to buy one of the company’s previous acquisitions, ATop Tech, which was a chip-designer.

The transaction went through without much fuss from the U.S. government, despite the company making products critical to U.S. military systems. These kinds of deals, particularly with companies that are part of a larger supply chain, would have major national security implications if manipulated or counterfeit Chinese components ended up in military supply chains.

Talent Recruitment Programs
China also uses its talent recruitment programs to find foreign experts to return to China and work on key strategic programs.

China also heavily recruits scientists from abroad enticing them with big paychecks. The country is even offering fast-tracked work visas geared towards Nobel laureates, coaches, and athletes.


A cut-away model of the Chinese Gen-III nuclear power technology HPR1000 by China General Nuclear Power Corporation (CGN) is displayed at the World Nuclear Exhibition (WNE), the trade fair event for the global nuclear community in Villepinte near Paris, France, June 26, 2018. (REUTERS/Benoit Tessier)
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Last year, Chinese–American nuclear engineer Allen Ho pled guilty to conspiring to produce “special nuclear material” in China.

Ho was employed as a consultant by a company called CGNPC — China General Nuclear Power Company — and helped them recruit and execute contracts with U.S.-based nuclear engineers to assist in the design and manufacturing of components for nuclear reactors. He also helped facilitate travel to China and payments for the experts in exchange for their services.

Ho is currently serving a two-year prison sentence.

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Postby Kati » 05 Sep 2018 08:43

Didn't I tell about the modus operandi b4?.......


Chinese American scientist admits plot to steal GlaxoSmithKline’s secrets for firm in China

http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/penn ... 80831.html

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Postby Kati » 06 Sep 2018 10:25

Worth reading ....

Spying charges against Chinese-American scientists spark fears of a witch hunt

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-mag ... e-american

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Postby Kati » 06 Sep 2018 10:28

The cat and mouse game is going on ....

China Convicts U.S.-Based Scholars for Spying

https://abcnews.go.com/International/st ... 744&page=1

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Postby Kati » 06 Sep 2018 10:37

The Chinese Student Threat?

FBI director Christopher Wray tells Senate panel that American academe is naïve about the intelligence risks posed by Chinese students and scholars. Some worry his testimony risks tarring a big group of students as a security threat.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/201 ... ce-threats

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Postby nandakumar » 06 Sep 2018 10:57

China doesnt even have to flex but need only bare its economic muscle for American Universities to resort to self censorship as this article in New Republic argues.
https://newrepublic.com/article/150476/ ... ship-china

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby kit » 07 Sep 2018 01:05

Kati wrote:Can we have some discussion on the topic of Rabinder being dumped by see eye yeh?
(Assuming that the article states the facts.)
Did massa see him as a useless liability later? Or, did he feed garbage to massa?


He outlived his usefullness

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Postby Manish_P » 11 Sep 2018 10:11

After soldiers’ data and PAN leak, Ministry of Defence orders info curbs

Sensitive data of an undisclosed number of soldiers, including their personnel numbers and Permanent Account Number (PAN) details have been leaked by government pay websites, prompting strict orders to review security protocols and furnish action taken reports to curb the leaks.

Details of the soldiers that included their names, military ID numbers and the PAN were found to have been disclosed on the websites of the defence ministry’s pay and account offices located across the country, according to an internal review conducted over the past few months

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Postby pankajs » 12 Sep 2018 16:50

https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/scien ... 929012.ece
India’s first missile tracking ship is readying for sea trials
The keel of the ship, which was laid on June 30, 2014, is being built for the National Technical Research Organisation, the technical intelligence agency working directly under the supervision of the Prime Minister’s Office and the National Security Adviser.

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When asked about the commencement of sea trials, HSL Chairman and Managing Director Rear Admiral L.V. Sarat Babu told The Hindu that the sea trials would be carried out either by September-end or the first week of October and they were confident of handing over the vessel to the Indian Navy by the year-end. “This would put India in the elite of club of a few countries that have such a sophisticated ocean surveillance ship,” the Rear Admiral pointed out.

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The ship was built inside the covered dry dock. It has the capacity to carry 300-strong crew with hi-tech gadgets and communication equipment, powered by two diesel engines, and a large deck capable of helicopter landing.

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https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 389_1.html

Indian Mujahideen ringleader shot dead in Nepal

Principal of a private school in Nepal's Sunsari district, who was murdered on September 20, has been identified as the ringleader of terror outfit Indian Mujahideen, confirmed the sources in the Nepali Police.

Khurshid Alam, who was working as the Principal of Raiyan National School, was shot dead by unknown bike-borne assailants.

Alam was shot in his head, abdomen and legs. The attackers fled the site, which is seven kilometre from the Indian territory. Alam died on the spot.

"He is publicly identified as Khurshid Alam. He was on the radar of Indian Intelligence as he was suspected to be involved in the 1993 Mumbai attack. The Indian government, about two decades ago, requested the Nepal government to hand over him to them which could not happen as Nepal denied," a high-level police source confirmed to ANI.

New Delhi urged Kathmandu to hand him over when Bamdev Gautam of the then Communist Party of Nepal- Unified Marxist Leninist (CPN-UML) was the Home Minister.

"Bamdev Gautam also rejected the proposal of the Indian government to hand him over, and now he is killed," the source added. Alam had taken the membership of the CPN-UML during the political upheaval in Nepal.

The Indian government, at that time, in co-operation with the Intelligence Bureau, also gave the location details and other relevant information to the Nepal government, informing that Alam was involved in terrorist activities.

Alam, who was also a cleric, had also sheltered four other suspects of Mumbai terror attack and helped them to fly over to the Middle East countries by arranging passports for them.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby sum » 23 Sep 2018 04:22

Wonder who bumped him off...the Martians?

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby pushkar.bhat » 23 Sep 2018 16:38

Hmmm very possible that his assailants were indeed Martians. You can save men from fellow humans but Martians it's impossible to escape.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby ramana » 25 Sep 2018 00:18

Rahul M wrote:https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/indian-mujahideen-ringleader-shot-dead-in-nepal-118092200389_1.html

Indian Mujahideen ringleader shot dead in Nepal

Principal of a private school in Nepal's Sunsari district, who was murdered on September 20, has been identified as the ringleader of terror outfit Indian Mujahideen, confirmed the sources in the Nepali Police.

Khurshid Alam, who was working as the Principal of Raiyan National School, was shot dead by unknown bike-borne assailants.

Alam was shot in his head, abdomen and legs. The attackers fled the site, which is seven kilometre from the Indian territory. Alam died on the spot.

"He is publicly identified as Khurshid Alam. He was on the radar of Indian Intelligence as he was suspected to be involved in the 1993 Mumbai attack. The Indian government, about two decades ago, requested the Nepal government to hand over him to them which could not happen as Nepal denied," a high-level police source confirmed to ANI.

New Delhi urged Kathmandu to hand him over when Bamdev Gautam of the then Communist Party of Nepal- Unified Marxist Leninist (CPN-UML) was the Home Minister.

"Bamdev Gautam also rejected the proposal of the Indian government to hand him over, and now he is killed," the source added. Alam had taken the membership of the CPN-UML during the political upheaval in Nepal.

The Indian government, at that time, in co-operation with the Intelligence Bureau, also gave the location details and other relevant information to the Nepal government, informing that Alam was involved in terrorist activities.

Alam, who was also a cleric, had also sheltered four other suspects of Mumbai terror attack and helped them to fly over to the Middle East countries by arranging passports for them.


Quite an accomplished terrorist. Joins the Nepal Communist Party, is a cleric, furnishes passports for terrorists. Wonder if the school is a madrassa.
ANI is trying hard to point fingers at India. India has sought him since 1993 and didn't do much after that.
It could be he was killed by his own fellows whom he double crossed.
Could be ISI as their signature is murder by bike-borne assailants. Eg. Krachi, Peshawar etc.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby ramana » 27 Sep 2018 04:10

ramana wrote:
Rahul M wrote:https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/indian-mujahideen-ringleader-shot-dead-in-nepal-118092200389_1.html



Quite an accomplished terrorist. Joins the Nepal Communist Party, is a cleric, furnishes passports for terrorists. Wonder if the school is a madrassa.
ANI is trying hard to point fingers at India. India has sought him since 1993 and didn't do much after that.
It could be he was killed by his own fellows whom he double crossed.
Could be ISI as their signature is murder by bike-borne assailants. Eg. Krachi, Peshawar etc.



My guess is right.

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/two-re ... inside-job

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Kati » 28 Sep 2018 09:40

Chinese man arrested in US for allegedly acting 'as an illegal agent' of China

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/25/politics ... index.html

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Kati » 03 Oct 2018 09:36

A fascinating account of what the Panda is doing in down under .....

Australia And New Zealand Are Ground Zero For Chinese Influence

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/02/62724990 ... -influence

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby ramana » 03 Oct 2018 20:16

Kati wrote:A fascinating account of what the Panda is doing in down under .....

Australia And New Zealand Are Ground Zero For Chinese Influence

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/02/62724990 ... -influence


I don't understand the POV of the NPR piece.

Both countries willingly chose to be under China thumb to spite India.

This despite early 1960s reports of Chinese plans to settle their over population in Australia.

Blame it on Olafe Caroe and his VSG group mostly Aussies that kind of pointed to India as an expanding power after Independence and to be checkmated.

The moves were to have Lt Gen Cawthorne re-organize the ISI and he later became head of Australian SIS.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Kati » 04 Oct 2018 09:49

Sen. Feinstein's office manager was a Chinese Spy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjOu0mQXSsk

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Neshant » 04 Oct 2018 18:00

Meanwhile Indian govt and companies continue to use China designed Telecom equipment and Phones.

Insane!

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Explosive Report Details Chinese Infiltration Of Apple, Amazon And The CIA

Nested on the servers’ motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn’t part of the boards’ original design. Amazon reported the discovery to U.S. authorities, sending a shudder through the intelligence community. Elemental’s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA’s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships. And Elemental was just one of hundreds of Supermicro customers.

During the ensuing top-secret probe, which remains open more than three years later, investigators determined that the chips allowed the attackers to create a stealth doorway into any network that included the altered machines. Multiple people familiar with the matter say investigators found that the chips had been inserted at factories run by manufacturing subcontractors in China.

His speech is also expected to focus on how China leverages debt and its capital markets to force foreign governments to submit to its will (something that has happened in Bangladesh and the Czech Republic.

But while those narratives are certainly important, they pale in comparison to Bloomberg's revelations, which reported on an ongoing government investigation into China's use of a "tiny microchip" that found its way into servers that were widely used throughout the US military and intelligence infrastructure, from Navy warships to DoD server farms. The probe began three years ago after the US intelligence agencies were tipped off by Amazon. And three years later, it remains ongoing.


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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2018 19:01

Neshant do you think its only Chinese companies that put micro chips in electronics?
US has them in the primary processor itself.
The original Bloomberg article is very detailed.
Good to read for knowledge.

This article is result of the US-China trade war.
All along US was quite happy and quiet for 3 years.

chanakyaa wrote:The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies
The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources...

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby srin » 04 Oct 2018 21:15

Wow - supermicro ! The implications are just mind-boggling.

Supermicro is a really big deal when it comes to network appliances and also servers. Two of my old companies used supermicro chassis - one for a network security appliance and another as a datacenter server (Supermicro is way cheaper and customizable for workloads than Dell or HP). I have personally negotiated purchase deals with their distributors here in India.

Assume there are hundreds of thousands of these systems in the most secure places (banks, defense etc) - and ironically to provide network security in some cases - and the possibility that even some of them may be compromised is just really terrible.

I don't know what cybersecurity guidelines are there in India for hardware for Govt, defense and banks, but we need to be really really worried.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby dinesha » 06 Oct 2018 13:26

With 3 Deputies Under Him, NSA Ajit Doval Has Become A Major Power Centre
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/with-3- ... re-1927533
RN Ravi, former chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, was appointed as deputy national security adviser on Thursday. He will now be the third deputy reporting to national security adviser Ajit Doval.
The other deputy nation security advisers are former secretary, Research and Analysis Wing, Rajinder Khanna and former diplomat Pankaj Saran. Being a 1976 batch officer of the Indian Police Service, Mr Ravi would now be the senior-most among the three deputies as Mr Khanna is a 1978 batch IPS officer and Mr Saran a 1982 batch officer of the Indian Foreign Service.

Mr Ravi has been the National Democratic Alliance government's interlocutor with Naga insurgent group National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah) and is credited to have played a key role in the 2015 peace accord between the centre and the outfit.

He is known to have worked closely with Mr Doval in the past. He was handling the North-East when the latter was the director of the Intelligence Bureau. Interestingly, both Mr Doval and Mr Ravi are Kerala cadre IPS officers. Mr Doval is eight batches senior to the latter.

The other aspect of Mr Ravi's re-designation is that it brings the Joint Intelligence Committee completely under the control of the National Security Council Secretariat.

"As of now, the government has merged the Joint Intelligence Committee with National Security Council Secretariat with the re-designation of RN Ravi," revealed a senior official.

"The idea is to ensure proper collation and consolidation of intelligence," the official added.


The responsibilities have been allocated to the three deputy national security advisors keeping in mind India's new security challenges, both internal and external.

"RN Ravi will handle the internal part of India's security policy while Pankaj Saran will look after external aspects. Rajinder Khanna will deal specifically with intelligence," explained a senior bureaucrat.

Defence experts said that India needs to improve its management of internal security and deploy better counter-terrorism strategies.

"Our intelligence apparatus needs to be well-prepared against all threats. We cannot take anything lightly. This new appointment is crucial because it makes the office of the National Security Adviser all-powerful. The best minds have been chosen by the National Security Adviser," said a senior intelligence official, who did not wish to be identified.

However, critics have different opinion.

"The economy is in a shambles. India's relations with all its neighbours are at their lowest. What will these three gentlemen (the three deputy national security advisers) bring to the table? The government lacks a coherent policy on all fronts," said another retired intelligence officer.

Meanwhile, there's also speculation in bureaucratic circles that RN Ravi might have been given a new assignment to open up space for the government to appoint a new chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee in a couple of months.

The time period is crucial as in two months' time the posts of both Director Intelligence Bureau and secretary, Research and Analysis Wing, will fall vacant.

"If government wishes to placate any senior contenders for these two posts, then one of them can be appointed as the new chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee," explains a senior officer.

Arvind Kumar, a 1984 batch officer from the Assam-Meghalaya cadre, is the senior-most IPS officer in the Intelligence Bureau and is tipped to be the next director.

In the Research and Analysis Wing, 1982 batch officer K Ilango is the senior-most followed by three 1984 batch officers. Among them are Samant Goel of the Punjab cadre and V Johri of the Madhya Pradesh cadre.


The centre also gave a three-month extension to Maharashtra Director General of Police DD Padsalgikar, a 1982 batch IPS officer, earlier in August.

"He too can be a contender for the post of Director Intelligence Bureau. But for the government to appoint him, he needs to be in service when the present director retires in December. So either the government can give him another three month extension or it can appoint him as the next director before November 30. In that case, the present director could become the new chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee," explains a former bureaucrat.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Kati » 07 Oct 2018 01:31

China pencil-tip spy chip's ultimate market risk: The profits built on big tech's low-cost global supply chain

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/chinas- ... night.html

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Manish_P » 08 Oct 2018 15:32

Suspected ISI agent held from Nagpur

Security agencies on Monday held a person near Brahmos Aerospace centre at Nagpur.

He is suspected of working for ISI and American intelligence agencies and passing on secrets related to the Brahmos missile to these countries

The accused, identified as Nishant Agrawal, is working at Brahmos Aerospace Centre at Nagpur. He has been booked under the Official Secrets Act.


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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Ashokk » 08 Oct 2018 16:06

Manish_P wrote:Suspected ISI agent held from Nagpur

Security agencies on Monday held a person near Brahmos Aerospace centre at Nagpur.

He is suspected of working for ISI and American intelligence agencies and passing on secrets related to the Brahmos missile to these countries

The accused, identified as Nishant Agrawal, is working at Brahmos Aerospace Centre at Nagpur. He has been booked under the Official Secrets Act.

He got the young scientist award :shock:
ISI agent arrested at sensitive BrahMos missile unit in Nagpur, Maharashtra
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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Kashi » 09 Oct 2018 05:39

I would lay off saying much on this... the memory of the fake ISRO spy scandal is still fresh.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby brvarsh » 09 Oct 2018 06:01

Manish_P wrote:
Security agencies on Monday held a person near Brahmos Aerospace centre at Nagpur.

He is suspected of working for ISI and American intelligence agencies and passing on secrets related to the Brahmos missile to these countries

Knowing external agencies would be after the premium tech like Brahmos, often at least in the past deliberate "Source of Information" are created or at least observed and fed the "Right Information" to be passed on. Putting counter intelligence measures are part of the process so I take this news with a pinch of salt.

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Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion - July 2018

Postby Manish_P » 09 Oct 2018 09:48

In such high sensitivity cases, there are quite a few possibilites: Both internal and external Sabotage, False flag, counter-intelligence mis-direction, running double agents (which can go on for years). Of course, it could be genuine bad one. Time will tell.


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