Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sudhan » 15 Apr 2019 16:47

What was the engine? Any info?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Yagnasri » 15 Apr 2019 16:50

Good news at last. Hope other systems like Prahar etc are also tested soon.

Mango question: Speed is said to be 0.6 to 0.7 Mach. Is it normal for CMs?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sudhan » 15 Apr 2019 16:58

Yagnasri wrote:Good news at last. Hope other systems like Prahar etc are also tested soon.

Mango question: Speed is said to be 0.6 to 0.7 Mach. Is it normal for CMs?


Yes saar. Normal for turbojet/turbofan powered missiles.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Manish_Sharma » 15 Apr 2019 17:28

Saurav Jha:

MANIK small turbofan engine has not been certified yet. It is on the way. Today's test was designed to validate low-level flight and terrain hugging capability. An imported (Russian) engine was used.


https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1117754129554612225?s=19

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sudhan » 15 Apr 2019 17:35

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Saurav Jha:

MANIK small turbofan engine has not been certified yet. It is on the way. Today's test was designed to validate low-level flight and terrain hugging capability. An imported (Russian) engine was used.


https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1117754129554612225?s=19


:( :( :((

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby jamwal » 15 Apr 2019 17:59

Is 6m length of missile with booster or without ? Regardless, it can be scaled to be carried on some of our fighter jets, perhaps a bit easier than it has been with Brahmos.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Singha » 15 Apr 2019 18:29

Hemant Kumar Rout
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39m39 minutes ago

The fearless #Nirbhay: The #missile followed a pre-set folded trajectory. For the first time it manoeuvred at an altitude as low as five metre to a range of 2.5 km with nice control all through the flight. Missile covered just over 650 km in 42.23 minute. @NewIndianXpress

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Singha » 15 Apr 2019 18:31

jammu to peshawar is 450km, bikaner to jacobabad is 477km.....so both 25-30 mins flying time....a bit more to avoid any known SAMs.

all of Paks crown jewels F-solahs to terrorist camps are in the backward side now ... we need tools and plans to devastate this whole belt and not consider it a safe place.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby JTull » 15 Apr 2019 18:42

Singha wrote:jammu to peshawar is 450km, bikaner to jacobabad is 477km.....so both 25-30 mins flying time....a bit more to avoid any known SAMs.

all of Paks crown jewels F-solahs to terrorist camps are in the backward side now ... we need tools and plans to devastate this whole belt and not consider it a safe place.


Gwalior to Balakot is 1050kms! With Manik, the range will be upto 1500kms so plenty to route it over low-radar low-population areas.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby dinesha » 15 Apr 2019 19:28

This time Nirbhay has a blunt nose cone..
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/111 ... 72257?s=12

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sum » 15 Apr 2019 19:32

Oriya paper report:
While the Nirbhay missiles for the first four trials were powered by the Russian-made NPO Saturn 36MT mini turbofan engines, the missile prototype launched on Monday has the indigenously designed and developed Manik turbofan engine.

Wonder which is true?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Zynda » 15 Apr 2019 19:42

Still uses Russian engine. Manik is still long ways away.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby kit » 15 Apr 2019 20:00

http://idrw.org/nirbhay-missile-test-no-manik-engine-yet-missile-shows-off-its-anti-ship-capability/#more-198335

DRDO is also planning to develop a New Smart Cruise missile with a range of 350-500 km with stealth characters to be used as Land Attack or Anti-ship weapon system for aircraft under IAF and Indian Navy. ???

what the heck is that ???

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Raveen » 15 Apr 2019 20:01

dinesha wrote:This time Nirbhay has a blunt nose cone..
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/111 ... 72257?s=12


I am pretty sure that's the protective cap that is jettisoned when the boost phase is over and the turbofan engine kicks in - once the missile turns horizontal for its cruise trajectory that is. We've seen similar protective caps on other Indian missiles.
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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby JTull » 15 Apr 2019 20:04

dinesha wrote:This time Nirbhay has a blunt nose cone..
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/111 ... 72257?s=12


The shape of red painted area is definitely different. Perhaps they have a seeker integrated into the missile now, leading to this talk of anti-ship role too.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby dinesha » 15 Apr 2019 20:15

Yes, probably some kind of seeker is envisaged, may be for anti-shipping role/version.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby disha » 15 Apr 2019 20:23

Congratulations! And Congratulations to DRDO on another feather in its cap. Certifying Manik is important and necessary step, it will have its own challenges, but it is not an unknown like the very sophisticated auto guidance system that takes the missile as low as 5 mtrs for several kilometers.

Baki air radars will not just have to watch their front, but their sides and backsides as well. Particularly their backsides*.

*I do wish the name of our sub-sonic LACM should have been named Mamata.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Picklu » 15 Apr 2019 20:25

lahore via kuwait

nair take a beer

and all such....

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Singha » 15 Apr 2019 21:17

kit wrote:http://idrw.org/nirbhay-missile-test-no-manik-engine-yet-missile-shows-off-its-anti-ship-capability/#more-198335

DRDO is also planning to develop a New Smart Cruise missile with a range of 350-500 km with stealth characters to be used as Land Attack or Anti-ship weapon system for aircraft under IAF and Indian Navy. ???

what the heck is that ???


this would be our desi JASSM/KH101/Scalp/Taurus with stealth shaping and coatings and very low thermal signature.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Mihir » 15 Apr 2019 21:40

My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Indranil » 15 Apr 2019 21:55

The nose cap has been like that for the last few tests. I remember talking to Nilesh regarding the same. It has not been as rounded as on the first test.

Raveen sir, this nose cap is not jettisoned. The nose is supposed to be a radome. However, I am not sure that the current (orange) one is!

Current test did not use Manik engine.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 15 Apr 2019 22:25

Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.

you deserve a perma ban for that. On mobile it took few secs to figure out that

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Raveen » 15 Apr 2019 22:41

ArjunPandit wrote:
Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.

you deserve a perma ban for that. On mobile it took few secs to figure out that



I think Mihir forgot the /s

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Anant » 16 Apr 2019 00:24

ArjunPandit wrote:
Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.

you deserve a perma ban for that. On mobile it took few secs to figure out that

Sarcastic or not, your post Mihir is stupid and self-serving. Linking it to generate traffic to your twitter account is also childish. Lots of people worked tirelessly to make this work. Your art work and analysis (if your single sentence qualifies) belittles this effort. Where's the ban hammer?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby mmasand » 16 Apr 2019 00:57

I found it hilarious, some humour to help us get through the week. Maybe move it to the humour thread.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby M_Joshi » 16 Apr 2019 01:36

I thinks its satire on the stupid reporting by DDM & few of the self-loathing Dhimmis. Fun to read but off-topic for this thread. Only if burkha threads were working..

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby kit » 16 Apr 2019 02:39

Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.


thats quite an "assessment" !! but quite apt for the humour thread :roll:

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Indranil » 16 Apr 2019 02:53

I loved it! It is not a joke on the missile men. It is a joke on the eggspurts!

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 16 Apr 2019 03:13

Anant wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:you deserve a perma ban for that. On mobile it took few secs to figure out that

Sarcastic or not, your post Mihir is stupid and self-serving. Linking it to generate traffic to your twitter account is also childish. Lots of people worked tirelessly to make this work. Your art work and analysis (if your single sentence qualifies) belittles this effort. Where's the ban hammer?

Anant, mihir is a very respectable member here we all learn from him. Belittling desi products is the last thing one can accuse him here. His and mine are in a "light vein". He has many followers and his comments are read and appreciated by those who matter beyond BRF too. This type of "Trafficking" is the last thing that he can be accused of, though other types I am sure he does.

If I am not mistaken, he was pre-empting the rising stars of Indian (AIM) and paksitani defence anal-e-sts (schied)

It's a great day for our scientiests and engineers. Let's leave it on a positive note. on a shoe string budget they have accomplished, for which pakistan has mortgaged the entire nation.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby nachiket » 16 Apr 2019 03:23

Guys, please understand sarcasm. Mihir is making fun of assorted "defence experts" who spout absolute bilge about desi products in the media either because they are morons, or because they are acting on the directions of their masters, or more commonly both.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Kartik » 16 Apr 2019 04:12

Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.


You do realise Mihir, that not everyone understands sarcasm and that a lot of madrassa grads and Lahori Logic users will actually fall for it hook line and sinker?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Mihir » 16 Apr 2019 06:32

Thanks for that vote of confidence, folks! Yes, the post was satire, targeting the idiotic “OSINT” analysts posing as experts. Like those clowns who did the “assessment” of the Balakot strike.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Atmavik » 16 Apr 2019 06:52

^^^ Mihir ji, what is this compliance with Euro 6 emissions isnt Bharat 3 enough? and how can u miss the totally communal orange color of the nose? the EC needs to look into it. i suggest we change the cap color to rainbow color. the hard working scientist might get an interview invite to Coffe with Kjo

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Cybaru » 16 Apr 2019 06:58

Mihir,

:rotfl: Keep at it, till them presstitutes fall in line... Only way to do it is to minimize them and their reporting...

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Singha » 16 Apr 2019 07:10

Mihir wrote:My expert assessment of publicly available imagery from the Nirbhay missile trial shows evidence of a spectacular failure.


:twisted: superb. mockery and treating #OSINT self proclaimed experts as the joke they are is best than "engaging" seriously with them.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sanjaykumar » 16 Apr 2019 07:26

Great pre-emotive strike there Mihir.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Kakarat » 16 Apr 2019 12:36

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/11 ... 3002098688
#YourTurn | Qs are pouring in for Team #Nirbhay here: https://bit.ly/2Zen4Pf

Image

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby TushS » 16 Apr 2019 12:50

Newbie question for Gurus- What kind of explosives does Nirbhay will use? Is it different from explosives being used in Brahmos? AFAIK Brahmos have benefit of kinetic energy with it which Nirbhay definitely lacks. Kindly enlighten me.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Karthik S » 16 Apr 2019 12:55

Who are OSINT experts?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby SandeepR » 16 Apr 2019 13:11

Gurus,
Does Brahmos/Nirbhay has explosives like BCES, Incidiary, etc (Similar to Prithvis) or designed in special new way for better penetration:?:


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