How is a missile ergonomically designed ? [/quote]kit wrote:nash wrote:We needed all of these ASAP.
Prahar Weapon System
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For enemy's musharraf
How is a missile ergonomically designed ? [/quote]kit wrote:nash wrote:We needed all of these ASAP.
Prahar Weapon System
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It's like claim of India can't build a fighter jet. Can't build BMD is not a bad criticism to begin with. Maybe just fishing attempts.Sumair wrote:China Says India Can’t Build An Effective Missile Defense System
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-says-i ... 00629.html
From the link:Harsh Vardhan Thakur
@hvtiaf
MBDA UK for Meteor on Mirage and MBDA France for MICA Mk-2 have approached.
Everything is on the cards for Indian fighters, & possible even without direct radar integration.
https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1225101730121043968
That poster is a treasure trove of information and explains why the delay in Prahaar's testing. They have modified the missile and the carrier.nash wrote:We needed all of these ASAP.
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Looks like someone has converted all the degree (°) symbols to zerosIndranil wrote:P.S. But seriously, we need to proof read posters before putting them up in international events like this. +- 45 degrees has changed to +- 450! And then ergonomic?nash wrote:We needed all of these ASAP.
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So is there a medium range and extended range in development? India has really crossed the threshold in terms of missile development. We can develop missiles of our choice at will.Delhi Defence Review
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Making an expo debut is the Naval Anti Ship Missile - Short Range NASM-SR at #defexpo2020
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Based on the above analysis, the following characteristics of the missile emerge. It is a three stage missile with a diameter of 1.4 m and a length of nearly 13.2 m. The first two stages cumulatively weigh around 17.2 tonnes (t) carrying 16.7 t of fuel. The PDV-derived third stage which includes the KKV weighs around 1.8 t, bringing the overall weight of the missile to around 18.5 t. Such a missile should be able to take out targets up to an altitude of 1000 km, as was hinted at by DRDO Chairman Sateesh reddy, after the test.
The fog is clearing in my head. The AAD will use the 12x12. They had offered the Prahaar on 12x12s, but must have faced opposition from Army for obvious reasons. They then proposed an 8x8 platform (derivation of the MRSAM launch platform) for more mobility.Indranil wrote: Earlier Prahaar was supposed to move on large 12x12 which is good in many areas. But imagine taking those to forward areas. Now they will have them on 6X6s, and 8x8s in high mobility vehicles. The launch platform has wider traverse angles as well. This is far more battle-ready weapon platform. May be the 12x12s will also stay.
Anantha Krishnan M
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#Nirbhay sea-skimming captured through EOTS.
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The #Nirbhay missile prog takes a new avatar. It will be know knownas Indigenous Technology Cruise Missile #ITCM. First launch with desi seeker, engine...
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If the ADE failed in its goal and couldn't turn the corner with the Nirbhay despite so many chances, why are they entrusted with the new version again?Prem Kumar wrote:While the support from the Navy is great (200 missile commitment), I wish the IA & IAF had inducted Tranche 1 of Nirbhays with imported engines. We can iron out operational & production kinks while Tranche 2 with indigenous engine gets ready.
This "closing down" of Nirbhay program as a tech demonstrator without induction is a real crappy decision - but not a surprising one sadly.
So no LO design like Scalp?Indranil wrote:Sum ji,
I have seen the tenders for the new Nirbhay. It is more compact. But not much change.
I hope we get through with Nirbhay ASAP..Indranil wrote:Sum ji,
I have seen the tenders for the new Nirbhay. It is more compact. But not much change.
rakall wrote:I hope we get through with Nirbhay ASAP..Indranil wrote:Sum ji,
I have seen the tenders for the new Nirbhay. It is more compact. But not much change.
Very important and critical for us to get over the hurdle with Nirbhay and make it a workhorse and a highly reliale system (like PSLV has become for ISRO)..
The possibilites are endless..
There is a long wishlist :
Nirbhay-Mini 600km Range Airlaunched (3 per Tejas) LACM
Nirbhay-Mini 500km Range Airlaunched (3 per Tejas) Anti-Ship
Nirbhay 1000km Range Airlaunched (1 per Tejas) LACM
Nirbhay 1000km Range Airlaunched (1 per Tejas) Anti-Ship
Nirbhay 1000km Range TEL, Ship/Sub launch LACM
Nirbhay 1000km Range CoastalBattery Anti-Ship
Nirbhay-ER 1500km+ Range TEL, Ship/Sub launched LACM
Nirbhay-ER 1500km+ Range Coastal Battery Anti-Ship (probably an overkill.. unnecessary???)
There was no diagram in the tender, only dimensions.Thakur_B wrote:So no LO design like Scalp?Indranil wrote:Sum ji,
I have seen the tenders for the new Nirbhay. It is more compact. But not much change.
CARTOSAT, RISAT, P-8A, Do-228, Heron, Tapaskit wrote:For extended range anti ship missiles , the issue *still* would be tracking, what sensor sources with IN can possibly do that ?
I was thinking of real time tracking, say even an aircraft carrier in a large ocean mass is no easy task, the loiter times of aircraft and UAVs lack the range and persistence for tracking and targetting.Are the new satellites up to the task ., would be a huge leap in capability if it does, .. A hypersonic weapon guided by a such a system can wreck havoc on any enemy fleet from the Indian landmass itself within minutes ! .tsarkar wrote:CARTOSAT, RISAT, P-8A, Do-228, Heron, Tapaskit wrote:For extended range anti ship missiles , the issue *still* would be tracking, what sensor sources with IN can possibly do that ?
yes, you got me there, the Tritons seem to be the "thing"Rahul M wrote:50m would be the resolution in the ideal world scenario. It would go up to 1.5km in many real world scenarios as the pib release mentioned. 50 m is not good enough to id aircraft carrier from similar sized ships like container or crude carrier. For smaller ships like destroyers even detection will be hard.
I would suggest something like 10m resolution is needed for the application we are discussing.
Btw, kit, uav's can loiter for days and time capability is only increasing.
Its tactical ballistic missile it serves a different purpose than Brahmos and yes it will be cheaper as it doesn’t need to have a radar seeker.Philip wrote:Is Pranash being developed because of the high cost of BMos?
One single stage solid rocket engine vs a ramjet. Or is it a replacement for Prithvi legacy tactical missiles meant for under 300km ranges? A good missile for export too.
Ergonomic is like ergonomic access to various LCA panels. Missile also requires periodic human checks, so ergonomics is important. Imagine a design that requires checking a missile component/sub-assembly that requires disassembling a major sub-system.Avinandan wrote:Regarding Prahaar being ergonomic :-
Perhaps it is meant to convey that it is much more ergonomical than bulkier Prithvi and easier to manage once canisterized.
Yes good article when there was scarce data to work on.Indranil wrote:Based on the above analysis, the following characteristics of the missile emerge. It is a three stage missile with a diameter of 1.4 m and a length of nearly 13.2 m. The first two stages cumulatively weigh around 17.2 tonnes (t) carrying 16.7 t of fuel. The PDV-derived third stage which includes the KKV weighs around 1.8 t, bringing the overall weight of the missile to around 18.5 t. Such a missile should be able to take out targets up to an altitude of 1000 km, as was hinted at by DRDO Chairman Sateesh reddy, after the test.
The Indian mic should just worry about domestic need and be careful about export of weapons including to whom which is important. If someone orders cheap weapons in bunch and cancels it will be left on shores - just not left tail drag the cat or what s the phrase.John wrote:Its tactical ballistic missile it serves a different purpose than Brahmos and yes it will be cheaper as it doesn’t need to have a radar seeker.Philip wrote:Is Pranash being developed because of the high cost of BMos?
One single stage solid rocket engine vs a ramjet. Or is it a replacement for Prithvi legacy tactical missiles meant for under 300km ranges? A good missile for export too.
1) 50 m is multi-spectral, including infraredRahul M wrote:50m would be the resolution in the ideal world scenario. It would go up to 1.5km in many real world scenarios as the pib release mentioned. 50 m is not good enough to id aircraft carrier from similar sized ships like container or crude carrier. For smaller ships like destroyers even detection will be hard.
I would suggest something like 10m resolution is needed for the application we are discussing.
Btw, kit, uav's can loiter for days and time capability is only increasing.