Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 28 Dec 2018 18:39

ramana wrote:...
noted please delete

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Postby darshhan » 28 Dec 2018 23:11

Gyan wrote:Both Prahaar & Pralay programs seem to moving at snail pace while Pinaka -3 (300mm diameter version) has disappeared.


Given the capabilities of DRDO wrt missile programs, I doubt if there are any technical challenges regards to development of these two missiles. If anything these are low ball for DRDO. The main reason would be " paise khatm ho gaye". Indeed with elections now approaching there would be all sorts of paucity of funds for various projects.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 28 Dec 2018 23:51

What's happening to Nirbhay, no test in 2018. All sorted? Given the troubled history it had, I would expect multiple tests prior to induction. Although, it is possible that it is not declared to public!

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Vips » 29 Dec 2018 08:20

One of the defence youtube channel is claiming Nirbhay program is going the Trishul way and is going to be abandoned/cancelled.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby John » 29 Dec 2018 09:49

Vips wrote:One of the defence youtube channel is claiming Nirbhay program is going the Trishul way and is going to be abandoned/cancelled.

I mentioned it while back that Nirbhay will likely get the ax simply took too long and shift to hypersonic missiles is all the rage now. This should be case study of how not to run a program fault lays with all parties involved ( underfunded, snail pace dev cycle, overambitious, changing design etc).

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Thakur_B » 29 Dec 2018 10:00

The subsonic missile concept isn't dead yet. It should get superceded very quickly with a stealthier frame.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sum » 29 Dec 2018 10:48

Vips wrote:One of the defence youtube channel is claiming Nirbhay program is going the Trishul way and is going to be abandoned/cancelled.

Very sad if true but not surprising given that there was zero tests in entire year after it was claimed that the hump was crossed in 2017

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby kurup » 29 Dec 2018 11:37

SLBM test scheduled on 04/05/06 Jan 2019 off the coast of Vizag , Range ~ 3000 km ,

https://twitter.com/kurup89/status/1078892500876546048

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Shrinivasan » 29 Dec 2018 13:13

kurup wrote:SLBM test scheduled on 04/05/06 Jan 2019 off the coast of Vizag , Range ~ 3000 km ,

https://twitter.com/kurup89/status/1078892500876546048

This should be the K4 or K5 I presume... any news if it is from a submarine or a platform?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Prem Kumar » 29 Dec 2018 14:29

Its a bit facetious to claim that subsonic cruise missiles are dead. Low flying CMs like the Nirbhay are practically undetectable and are very effective against a wide variety of land targets. Not every land target is going to be protected with a S400 type system.

I am also worried about the lack of Nirbhay tests, given that the design issues had been sorted out.

P.S. Hypersonic missiles cannot loiter, which is also one of Nirbhay's USP's

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 29 Dec 2018 14:39

Shiv sir used to bring about the case of last fighter jet

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby prasannasimha » 29 Dec 2018 14:52

Nirbhay will be tested with the indigenous engine. I presume that this is the cause 9f the delay
Cruise missiles will be useful in the forseeable future

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Postby mody » 29 Dec 2018 14:53

Vips wrote:One of the defence youtube channel is claiming Nirbhay program is going the Trishul way and is going to be abandoned/cancelled.


Maybe they are waiting for the Manik engine to mature. The last test was carried out using a Turbojet engine, instead of turbofan. Not sure if any of the turbofan engines procured from Russia for the Nirbhay are still remaining or not. Maybe they want the next test to be the final config Manik engine.


Could also be that they are now looking to change the design to a more stealthy design, like the Russian Kh-101, that evolved from the old Kh-55.
The KH-55 had a drop down engine, whereas the KH-101 has a much more stealthier design with the engine incorporated within the airframe.
Nirbhay too has the engine inside the airframe, no tests this year are puzzling and disapointing.
If the project is capped as a tech demonstrator, it will adversely impact ADE too. It might even be disbanded/merged with ADA or HAL or other labs.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sum » 29 Dec 2018 19:43

prasannasimha wrote:Nirbhay will be tested with the indigenous engine. I presume that this is the cause 9f the delay
Cruise missiles will be useful in the forseeable future

Wouldnt there have been tests with old/imported engines to iron out the software/navigation algos and tons of other checklists given the multiple failures of all those in earlier tests(engine never had a issue in earlier failure to be a showstopper) ?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby nam » 29 Dec 2018 20:01

A smaller version of Nirbhay for air launch from Su30, able to carry 3-4 of them at once, giving 600-800km range would very useful against targets in Tibet.

Glide post firing(like SAAW), then start the engine. In this scenario, the ladakh test makes sense..

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby prasannasimha » 29 Dec 2018 20:33

sum wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:Nirbhay will be tested with the indigenous engine. I presume that this is the cause 9f the delay
Cruise missiles will be useful in the forseeable future

Wouldnt there have been tests with old/imported engines to iron out the software/navigation algos and tons of other checklists given the multiple failures of all those in earlier tests(engine never had a issue in earlier failure to be a showstopper) ?

As fatr as I can remember they finished using the procured engines from Russia and were planning to use the indigenous engine.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby John » 29 Dec 2018 20:50

Prem Kumar wrote:Its a bit facetious to claim that subsonic cruise missiles are dead. Low flying CMs like the Nirbhay are practically undetectable and are very effective against a wide variety of land targets. Not every land target is going to be protected with a S400 type system.

I am also worried about the lack of Nirbhay tests, given that the design issues had been sorted out.

P.S. Hypersonic missiles cannot loiter, which is also one of Nirbhay's USP's


Subsonic CM are not dead but hard to fathom developing one and may be seeing induction at 2025 or 2030 at the current pace as transition to UCAV, hypersonic missiles or stealthy CM are being happening. Addition of features such as loitering is what complicated Nirbhay development cycle rather than keeping it simple and adding those features in next iterations.

It's shame ADE didnt follow Brahmos or even Astra programs and simply focused on getting it out the door and add additional features later in cycle.

As for ADS using S-400 to shoot down cruise missiles is a overkill, Russia primary advertises Panstir for that purpose

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Karan M » 30 Dec 2018 05:18

We don't have any info yet..Vips can you post which link at least.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Shrinivasan » 30 Dec 2018 09:56

Getting a plain vanilla LRCM should be our immediate focus...probably our ability to extend the range of barahmos overtly after MTCR is working against Nirbhay. Rather than aim for the sky.. we should first perfect and induct a Mk1 version and then continue on adding bells and whistles...

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby sum » 30 Dec 2018 10:34

Maybe the usual desi chicken and egg problem of user being completely uninterested unless it is a product which is "contemporary" and matches everything out there and scientists biting off more than they can chew to envice user interest

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 31 Dec 2018 16:50

Given that hemant kr rout beat me to writing, posting what i was writing..pardon the formatting as it is copied from MS word and can't paste table...ramana sir, was keen to send this to you..

As the year 2018 comes to a close, one cannot help notice what a busy year India had in testing its missiles, old and new alike. DRDO performed a staggering 29 tests of various missiles and munitions, based on publicly disclosed information. These ranged from MBRL like guided Pinaka Mk2 with range of 70Km to three tests of Agni 5 with a range of at least 5000Kms. While Agni 5’s “officially” stated range of 5000 km keeps everyone guessing, the importance of night trials of missiles should not be missed. We conducted multiple night time tests of Agni 1 and Prithvi 2. Repeated trials of missile systems, including those that have been already inducted potentially provide the following benefits
a. Life Cycle Data: Real world data on component reliability and life cycle planning, and more accurate life cycle planning & estimation
b. Tracking data: Useful for modelling the path under different conditions to minimize the need for future testing
c. Testing New Components: Possibly testing new sub-components on an already proven system thereby de-risking a completely new system or easy to isolate the effects of new components rather than going in for a full system
d. Training: operator training for a wider base, repeated training for same base providing more familiarity in real world situation under different scenarios
e. Identifying failures: Missiles are complex systems and a lot can go wrong. It is always better to fail in a controlled environment and rectify in peacetime rather than in wartime. Just as Pervez Musharraf found out during the Kargil war when he was informed that the successful missile launch he supervised was failure and the missile could not even be found and Pakistani missiles’ guidance systems don’t work as boasted .
f. Strategic Signalling: Indicating to our opponents that the nation is ready for all scenarios and our production capabilities are in robust. Also, this sustained made us forget the days when every green painted missile with the name of an invader made common Indian shiver. Now all we hear from Pakistan is cries of capping Indian missile programs by UN and powers that be. That is the power of persistence and incremental improvement in scientific fields. Pakistan imported missiles and may not even know where the missile will land, even during peaceful tests. India persisted with own technology and now can make missiles are one of most accurate in their own class of missiles. It must be noted that this accuracy makes us do with lesser yield of nuclear weapons thereby minimizing the required yields of weapons.

Few nations in P5 can lay claim to such wide range of missiles and with this level of rigorous testing. This testing enables us to be claim our rightful place on the high table of most powerful nations in the world. It also reminds our enemies to think twice before any conducting any mischief. It is a stern warning to those coveting our land or aiming to destabilize our nation, that India is ready 24*7 for all types of conflicts across all environments in land, sea and air.

Below is the list of missiles tested by India in 2018, including test dates and the salient features of missiles that were tested in 2018.

Missile Overview Test Date
(2018) Salient Points
Agni 1 • Range: 700-900 Km
• Payload: 1.5k-2.5K
• CEP: 25 KM
• Guidance: Ring Laser Gyro- INS (Inertial Navigation System, terminal guidance
• Stages: 1 • 06 Feb
• 30 Oct • First test: 1989
• Short notice test
• Up to 1000 Kg payload
• 18th version of A1 (what does it mean??)
• Solid propellant (NEPE???)
• 30 Oct Night trial
Agni 2 • Range: 2-3.5K Kms
• Payload: ~1.5k Kg
• CEP: 20-40 m
• Guidance: Ring Laser Gyro- INS, Strapdown inertial, terminal guidance
• Stages: 2, Thrust Vectoring • 20 Feb • first prototype of an operational variant of the Agni-II was tested on 11 Apr, ‘99
• Launched as a training exercise by the Strategic Forces Command (SFC) of the army.
• advanced high accuracy navigation system, guided by a novel scheme of state of the earth command and control system
Agni 4 • Range: ~4K Kms
• Payload: ~1k Kg
• CEP: 20-40 m
• Guidance: Ring Laser Gyro- INS, Strapdown inertial, Micro Inertial Navigation
• Stages: 2, Thrust Vectoring • 23 Dec • First test: Nov 2011
• Previous test on 7 Jan, 2018
• User Trial by Army, 7th trial of Agni-IV missile
Agni 5 • Range: ~5K Kms
• Payload: ~1.5k Kg
• CEP: 20-40 m
• Guidance: Ring Laser Gyro- INS, Strapdown inertial, Micro Inertial Navigation
• Stages: 2, Thrust Vectoring
• high-speed on-board computer and fault-tolerant software, along with robust and reliable bus guided the (Agni-5) missile flawlessly • 10 Dec
• 03 Jun
• 18 Jan • first test of Agni V was conducted on April 19, 2012
• 10 Dec: User associated trial. Strategic force command along with DRDO scientists
• hit the designated target point accurately
• launched with the help of a mobile launcher
• Talks about 8000 Km June t3, pre induction test, More reliable, first stage maraging steel, second and third carbon fibre reinforced polymer casing diameter of 2.0 m, one more user assisted trial and will then go to user training exercises and serve as a baseline for longer ranged and heavy MIRV missiles
Prithvi 2 • Range: 350 km
• Payload: 500-1000 Kg
• CEP: Single Digit
• Inertial Navigation System (INS) controlled by the thrust vector control and Aero-dynamic control systems • 21 Feb
• 14 Jul
• 06 Oct • First night trial
• This was second test of the missile in two weeks
• Liquid fuelled vehicle. So fuelling and other activities were done in night
• July 14, SFC, carried out by SFC and monitored by DRDO
• October 6, night time, randomly chosen from production stock
Dhanush • Range: 350 km
• Payload: ~500 Kg
• CEP: Single digit
• Inertial Navigation System (INS) controlled by the thrust vector control and Aero-dynamic control systems
• Capable of hitting Land & Sea based Targets • 23 Feb
• 09 Nov • The test was aimed at checking the performance of manoeuvring stealth warheads besides gauging the efficiency and killing probability of the missile in a real-time situation: Do I read MARV
• The missile achieved close to zero circular error probability (CEP) accuracy
• Nov 6, pre-designated coordinates, can be used as an anti-ship weapon
Nag/Prospina • Range: 500m-4 Km
• Active Guidance: Active IIR, mmW
• Launch Platform: NAMICA (Nag Missile Carrier)
• Single-shot hit probability of 0.77 • 28 Feb • (ATGM) Nag in desert conditions against two tank targets on February 28
• LOBL (Lock on Before Launch)
• Works even during peak desert summer conditions
• DRDO chief claimed that it will be inducted into IA in 2019
• Top attack capability for maximizing tank destruction
• While the project was delayed significantly due to IA’s stringent standards & tests, it has spawned a family of world class Anti-Tank missiles, viz., HeliNa, SANT, MPATGM, which when productionalized will leave mechanized thrust of any size dead in tracks
Helina • Helicopter Nag: Helicopter launched Nag
• Range: 7Km
• Helicopters: LCH , Rudra, Jaguar • 20 Aug • Tested for full range
• LOAL: Lock on After Launch, launched in the general direction of tank, actual coordinates provided after launch

MPATGM • Man portable Ant Tank Guided Missile
• Range: 200m-2.5Km
• Single shot kill probability: 90% • 17 Sep • third-generation anti-tank missile that has been designed to replace the Indian Army’s second-generation Milan and Konkurs ATGMs
• oft launch capabilities
• Manufactured by VEM Technologies
SANT • Stand-off Anti-Tank (SANT)
• Range: ~15-20 Kms
• Payload: ~1k Kg
• IIR Seeker • 29 Nov • Photo underslung on 07 Jan on mi 35
• Appearance in DefExpo 18 on April 15
• Infra-red Imaging Seeker with a far greater resolution than what has been tested earlier,
• Developed by Research Centre Imarat(RCI)
• The missile has a multi-platform capability and can be launched from attack helicopters and high-altitude/long-endurance drones.
• It also can be integrated with strike aircraft to provide high-precision, guided, tactical air-to-ground capabilities to carry out anti-armour missions. This would enable it to take out main battle tanks and armoured personnel vehicles
Brahmos • Range: 290-450Km, potentially upto 800Km
• World’s only supersonic Cruise missile that can be launched from Land, Sea(both ship & submarine) and Air, very difficult to intercept
• CEP: 1 m
• 200 Kg warhead
• Sea Skimming, as low as 3 m
• Mid course guidance correction by INS
• “S” manoeuver • 22 Mar
• 21 May
• 16 July • First test on 12 Jun 01
• Indian seeker developed by RCI tested
• Range extended to 450 Km
• 21 May for life extension technology of 15 years, some local newspaper going for 800 km Guajarati newspaper
• Life Extension test again, test took place in sea-state 7 with waves as high as 9 meters, demonstrating all weather capability 16 July
QRSAM • replacement program for its obsolete Osa-AK and Kvadrat
• Range: 15-25 km • 11 Apr
• 8 October • 11 April test failed
• 8 Oct one was successful
• Will supplement Akash
• Can be also used as anti-sea skimmer from a ship against low flying missiles
• Robust electronic counter measures to outsmart aircraft jammers
• Can attain high frequency with manoeuvrability
• Near 100% kill probability
Pinaka & Pinaka Mk2 • Multi-barrel Rocket Launcher
• Range 40 Km
• Fire control computer enabling to fire all in one go (Salvo mode) or separately
• Shoot & scoot capability
• Night vision devices for driver and crew
• Will be used in conjunction with Swathi Weapons locating radar • 30-May-18 • Already inducted into IA with significant orders
• L&T roped in for years to ramp up the production capacity
• Neutralization/destruction of enemy troop concentrations
• This year Mk2 was tested
• High firing precision at short notice
• A battery of six launchers can neutralize an area of ~1Km2
SFDR • Solid fuelled Ducted Ramjet missile
• BVR Air to Air Missile
• Successor to Astra
• Same class as meteor missile although a bit heavier
• Jointly developed by India & Russia • 30-May-18 • First test flight, in booster phase at Mach 3
• Seeker will be tested in subsequent phases
• Ramjet provides high thrust for a longer duration, thereby increasing no escape against targets during the
• Can potentially drive future longer range SAM programs, e.g., XRSAM
AAD • Advanced or Ashvin Air Defence System
• Hit to Kill interceptor
• designed to destroy missiles at exo-atmospheric altitudes of 50–150 kilometres
• Mid course correction • 02-Aug • Successfully destroyed an incoming medium-range ballistic missile target amid multiple electronically simulated dummy warheads used as decoys
• First time tested against multiple targets
• Possibly first time successful testing with indigenous IIR seeker
• Endo-Atmospheric test at an altitude of 15-25 km
• Against simulated targets of 1500kms class ballistic missile
Prahar • Short range tactical ballistic missile
• Non-nuclear use
• Launcher carries 10 missiles and can be fired in a salvo mode, can engage targets in different directions
• Warhead 200 kg • 20 Sep • Test in a rainy weather
• Terminal accuracy less than 10 m
• Fills the gap between MBRL and Prithvi missiles
PDV • Supports two layered BMD
• Engages in exo-atmospheric range of 50-150km
• Will replace PAD: Prithvi Air Defence or Pradyumna Defence vehicle
• IIR seeker
• ECCM capability • 23 Sep • Night test
• Both interceptor and PDV were engaged successfully
• Automated operation for detection and tracking of enemy missile
• Can engage MRBMs traveling between Mach 3 and Mach 8
Astra BVR • Range: 100 km in head on and 20 Km in tail chase mode at an altitude of 15Km
• Can engage manoeuvring targets • 26 Sept-Oct 3 • Engaged a manoeuvring target
• Pre-induction trials
• Tested from six times from Su-30 MKI
Garuda & Garuthama Glide bombs 1000 Kg bombs
• Garuda: 30Km Range
• Garuthama: Range of 100km
• or engagement of targets from outside the range of standard anti-aircraft defences, thereby increasing aircraft survivability • 11 Oct • Testing from Su-30 MKI


When viewed in conjunction with the very high intensity exercises conducted this year, viz., Ex. Gaganshakti, Ex. Crossbow, Ex. Bahubali and other exercises involving almost all the P5 nations within and outside India mark the rapid emergence of India on the world front. It indicates that India will not shy from applying doctrines with intense punitive measures to give more than a bloody nose to its opponents.

It must not be ignored that all this has been accomplished by our DRDO scientists on a shoe string annual budget of ~2Bn USD, with ~30% on the missile programs. Current DRDO budget is roughly 5% of our total defence budget which is 1.65% of our GDP, a petty number when compare. Further, all these accomplishments have been made in light of technology denial regimes that have long stalled our access to critical technology & components, freely sharable across western nations. So special thanks to all DRDO scientists from myself and all other Indians on their behalf. You guys rock! Keep up the great work. Every Indian is proud of your great contribution in defending our motherland.
A lot has been accomplished and quite a lot is still needed, I am eagerly awaiting further tests of Nirbhay, the tests of Shuarya, HSTDV, Rustom 2 are long overdue. Hope 2019 will see successful tests of these missiles and showcase the maturity of Indian missiles.
On the other hand we should ponder why India can is world leader in these complex areas, in spite of all the challenges but hasn’t tasted similar levels of success in areas where imports are permitted.
The role of media should also be highlighted in highlighting these successes. While S-400 deal and controversies around Igla and Rafale purchase captured the attention of print and TV media, few journalists apart from Hemant Rout and Saurav Jha managed to look beyond their political proclivities and some technical stuff beyond the copy paste reports of previous years. While they did the best job in media, they were no match for few posters on Bharat Rakshak Forums (BRF), especially the Indian missiles thread. Haridas, JayS, Indranil and Ramana deserve a special mention for dropping bread crumbs wherever appropriate. Would like them to thank for their making BRF forums a great place to learn and enjoy for over a decade.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ramana » 01 Jan 2019 04:00

ArjunPandit, thanks lot for the mention.

I too bow to ArunS for his knowledge.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby AdityaM » 01 Jan 2019 08:32

ramana wrote:I too bow to ArunS for his knowledge.

Where do you read him now?

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby morem » 01 Jan 2019 08:49

He is present on the forum in a new Avatar :)

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Haridas » 01 Jan 2019 10:33

morem wrote:He is present on the forum in a new Avatar :)

OK worst kept secret for those who know the writing style.

Haridas == ArunS in casual easy going time pass mood.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Haridas » 01 Jan 2019 10:35

AdityaM wrote:
ramana wrote:I too bow to ArunS for his knowledge.

Where do you read him now?

I am not so much on public forum, much time I spend on more useful Gufaa.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Haridas » 01 Jan 2019 10:41

ramana wrote:I too bow to ArunS for his knowledge.

The real master is bowing to a nobody. My heartfelt salute to you Ramana ji.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 01 Jan 2019 13:26

brar_w wrote:deleted
brar sir I think I missed the in the mentions above

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby brar_w » 01 Jan 2019 21:06

ArjunPandit wrote:
brar_w wrote:deleted
brar sir I think I missed the in the mentions above


No, this was in reference to a post after yours which I believe was deleted.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Lisa » 01 Jan 2019 21:58

Haridas wrote:I am not so much on public forum, much time I spend on more useful Gufaa.


Please enlighten and unenlightened one, what is Gufaa?

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Postby Haridas » 01 Jan 2019 22:23

^^^ Gufaa in Persian/urdu means cave. the term usually means a place for discussion between invited participants (as againt open for all).

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby AdityaM » 01 Jan 2019 22:32

Haridas wrote:
AdityaM wrote:Where do you read him now?

I am not so much on public forum, much time I spend on more useful Gufaa.

Aha! So the master is here himself!

I must figure a way to be notified of all yours posts!

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby AdityaM » 01 Jan 2019 22:38

Haridas wrote:
morem wrote:He is present on the forum in a new Avatar :)

OK worst kept secret for those who know the writing style.

Haridas == ArunS in casual easy going time pass mood.

Yaaay! (Fanboy moment)

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Lisa » 01 Jan 2019 22:43

Haridasji

Thank you for explanation. Any graphics from you soon, missed seeing them for comparative purposes when discussing missiles and launch platforms.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 02 Jan 2019 00:23

Haridas wrote:^^^ Gufaa in Persian/urdu means cave. the term usually means a place for discussion between invited participants (as againt open for all).


Sashtang pranaam Arun_Sji. Grew up in BRF reading your posts. Looking forward to niye from you

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Deans » 02 Jan 2019 11:27

For a paper I'm writing (for a think tank with the same kind of orientation as BRF) can Missile gurus here help me understand what quantity of the following missiles we should have deployed by the end of 2022. This is in a `best case scenario' assuming no delays in trials/ procurement etc.
Thanks.

SRBMs - Prithvi & Brahmos regiments or approx. no of missiles.
SAM's - Akash, Barak & QRSAM.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby nash » 02 Jan 2019 12:27

Karan M wrote:We don't have any info yet..Vips can you post which link at least.


This might be the youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNe-yP4vsc

And this one is recent from idrw

http://idrw.org/nirbhay-cruise-missile- ... y-worried/

I wish it should not get cancelled.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby mody » 02 Jan 2019 17:57

Deans wrote:For a paper I'm writing (for a think tank with the same kind of orientation as BRF) can Missile gurus here help me understand what quantity of the following missiles we should have deployed by the end of 2022. This is in a `best case scenario' assuming no delays in trials/ procurement etc.
Thanks.

SRBMs - Prithvi & Brahmos regiments or approx. no of missiles.
SAM's - Akash, Barak & QRSAM.


This is operational details. No one will be having this kind of info and anyone having the information, should not be disclosing it on public forums.

You can check publically available information about the orders placed for the various missiles and then estimate. Order details for missiles like Prithvi and Land based Brahmos will not be available. For Brahmos you might find the number of regiments raised, same also maybe for Prithvi, but it will not have absolute number of missiles. Also, for Prithvi no info about the version.

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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Postby Mollick.R » 02 Jan 2019 19:08

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India to get S-400 missile systems from Russia between October 2020 and April 2023
TNN | Jan 2, 2019, 06.05 PM IST

NEW DELHI: India will begin inducting the first squadron of the advanced S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile systems from Russia from October 2020 onwards, with all the five squadrons slated for delivery by April 2023.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-to-get-s-400-missile-systems-from-russia-between-october-2020-and-april-2023/articleshowprint/67350582.cms


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